/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17314436
there are many doors and many answers behind each, let's keep things simple. it's because jews

>>17314436
Jews are responsible for this

>>17314436
I love reddit

>>17314456
someone should build a script that verifies OP image origins and immediately ban reddit faggots

>>17314450
>>17314445
>>17314436
what the fuck else would it be? you think theres god damn kegs in the shape of a coke bottle that the servers milk for fresh coca cola?
and sodas are expensive because everything is in a restaurant
just order water if you're paranoid about syrup being added to your sparkling water giving you radiation poisoning or some shit you schizos

>>17314510
there are kegs for draught beer, why not for coke?

>>17314529
want your soda to cost as much as beer?

>>17314485
That would mean empty 4chan.

I'm all for it.

>>17314529
Beer isn’t carbonated by some machine like sodas are, it’s the fermentation that makes bubbles. You don’t make beer by taking beer syrup and carbonating it.

>>17314558
You totally could though.
Just have a syrup/alcohol mix that you pass into some carbonated water.

Make a cheaper beer possibly.

>why are sodas so expensive?
because you'll pay for them.

>>17314558
>>17314569

I'm now envisioning a beer dispenser like those fancy Coke Freestyle machines

>>17314569
>syrup alcohol mix

>>17314436
I remember 20 years ago restaurants used to send glass bottled soda. Now it's somewhat of a niche thing.

I guess they sold much more soda than before.

>>17314586
my mom was a server 30 years ago they still used these syrups

>>17314575
>>17314572

Honestly, probably cheaper to form a syrup/alcohol mix since you wouldn't need tons of pressurized storage for holding the beer. You just get your must going, ferment, distill out high proof alcohol, then mix that with whatever flavor mix and sell that.

Imagine a fountain machine for rum and coke.

>>17314602
this is peak americana circa 2022

>>17314604
I'm sorry that innovation is foreign to you. I'm sure oktoberfest would still be good with this system.

>>17314436
Soda always came as a syrup going all the way back to the soda fountains in drug stores. If anything it's pre-mixed bottled sodas that came later.

>>17314602
>Imagine a fountain machine for rum and coke.
In Japan highballs (whisky and soda) are pretty popular and many bars have fountains for making them.

>>17314436
>If it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
Because sugar-addicted customers are willing to pay for it.

>>17314660
Japan ahead of the curve on this one I think.

>>17314436
>like a gas station
Gas stations use the same bags that restaurants do.

>>17314456
>>17314485
You do realize that many times when you google things it will return images from plebbit, right? I’ve used leddit less than 5 times and it was just for a Q&A with GuildWard devs yet I probably have at least a hundred files with Reddit names just from using google image search.

Instead we should ban people from posting memes older than 15 years like frogs and w*jaks

>>17314436
what exactly do you think is in a bottle or can of soda OP? clue: it's syrup and water

>>17314436
>why are sodas so expensive
It's not... Soda is incredibly cheap.

>>17314436
Wait so if it's all just corn syrup how do they get the individual taste?
Anyways, I only drink water. Whenever I do drink soda I go and get the Mexican glass Coca-Cola bottles

>>17314782
Reading comprehension is hard, but... he doesn't say "corn syrup." He says "syrup."

Don't worry, you'll get there!

>>17314436
water is heavy and costs a lot to transport

>>17314436
>even more redditors
go. back.

>>17314777
Retards like this is why Big Soda can get away with charging as much as they do

>>17314436
restaurants, gas stations, fast food places, etc. They're hard as fuck to open and even harder to change them when they run out.

>>17314782
you sound like a turbonigger so kill yourself

>>17314436
Does anyone besides the soda distributors sell those syrup hoses? The one in my car has a kink and my soda dispenser has been spitting out watered down soda for a couple months but my Pepsi guy wants $58 for a fucking hose.

>>17314806
Retards who can throw two bucks at unlimited refills?

Dude... even prison niggers can afford commissary. What the hell is wrong with you?

>>17314436
>High-yield Coca-cola
What would happen if I drank it directly?

>>17314766
Jackass

>>17314809
>turbonigger
>>17314833
>prison niggers
Cringe

>>17314848
Unironically, it would be extremely painful.

>>17314436
They're selling you a equivalent product, plus there's time, effort, and skill involved in setting up and maintaining a system like this. They'll charge you whatever they can get away with.

>willingly consuming (((high fructose corn syrup)))

Don't do that.

>>17314436
So now will you stop supporting their industry? I boycott all chain restaurants. Almost want to boycott small business too, we need peer to peer back.

>>17314950
There's literally nothing wrong with corn you fucking schizo

>>17314965
American is really is the jew slave how is they the very extremity of stupid?

>>17315016
im going to drink an extra soda just to spite your antisemitism chud

>>17314965
>nothing wrong with corn
>he thinks high fructose corn syrup is corn
Wow...

>>17314766
>just from using google image search
welp, that's where you went wrong

>>17315034
What's corn syrup made out of you fucking idiot

>>17314766
>frogs
Disagree
>wojaks
Agree

>>17314456
I also make threads with webm's I gotten from Reddit. But you can't find those in reverse image searches ;)

>>17314436
you realize that if they stored soda that was premixed you'd just get flat soda right? You're complaining about Soda that's literally mixed right before you drink it

>>17315066
i bet you think hamburger is the same as steak too
or grape juice the same as grapes

>>17314848
regular diluted coke is a pH of 2.6, about the same as distilled vinegar (it's so loaded with sugar you wouldn't notice)
that's 5 parts water to 1 part syrup. so, Coca cola syrup would be six times as acidic. pH is logarithmic, meaning it has a pH of just about an even 2. that's about equivalent to lemon juice. breddy sour but not actually dangerous, the sugar might make you feel yucky though

>>17314436
Yes.

>>17315083
Xd

>>17314436
Soda is one of the highest profit margin items a restaurant has on the menu. Each cup costs less than a dime, and they charge multiple dollars for it.

>>17314760
I think what he meant was he thought restaurants had giant soda tanks like gas stations have giant fuel reservoirs.

>>17314436
>soda
>expensive
how fucking poor are you? soda is less expensive than water half the time

>>17314436
>If it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
Because the higher packaging costs and shipping costs of pre mixed sodas have set the price, and people are willing to pay that much for a soda, even if it's mixed on site and served in a reusable glass. What else are you gonna do? Bring your own bottle of soda that is the same price?

>>17314529
Why would you ship 30 gallons of coke when you can ship 5 gallons of syrup that will make 30 gallons of coke

>>17314569
>>17314572
G-guys, this could be a winning business idea we just stumbled upon. Buy the syrup they use to make non-alcoholic beers, some ethanol, and just carbonate it in house. In fact this can go much further than that by introducing multiple flavours such as coke syrup. Hide it all behind a beer tap to make it seem legit.

>>17315875
Wrong, you corporate bootlicker. Pepsi and Coca Cola set up artificial monopolies by establishing exclusive contracts with restaurants and fast food places. Thus, customers only have the choice of all Pepsi or Coca Cola products. There's no option for third party soda drinks that would be less expensive

>>17315066
Corn syrup has all the corn taken out of it bro. If you boil down granulated sugar you actually get a syrup that's 100% identical to "corn syrup", aside from have 5% less fructose.

>>17315903
Sure, the companies are the jews, but you're the one crying because mcdonalds doesn't carry mountain lightning and dr. perky so you can save 10 cents on your soda. Dip shit.

>>17315939
>you WILL buy from our monopolistic selection of beverages

Way to live life on your knees, anon

>>17314766
Fuck you.

>>17315944
It's not a monopoly dumb ass. I can go to practically any store in the US that's not a restaurant and get pepsi or coke, also Sams cola can go sign a contract with any restaurant they please. I can go to walmart and buy dr thunder for half the price of dr pepper, and so can you, but nobody does that unless they're utterly destitute, because it's fucking garbage and tastes like shit.
It's not a monopoly when a company wins by simply being superior.

>>17315969
sam's cola ain't bad just sayin

>>17315969
A restaurant isn't going to let you bring in your 2 liter bottle of RC Cola to your table you retard

>>17315981
>A restaurant isn't going to let you bring in your 2 liter
And I'm guessing you've actually tried it, kike.
>RC Cola
ahahahahahahahaha
Of course, it's one of you retards seething that nobody drinks you're garbage.
You know that shit has the most sugar, and is the most acidic out of any soda you can buy, right? It's poison among poison.

>>17314558
beer does get extra co2 though to actually get it through the taps

>>17314766
>can't even think of a meme from 15 years ago because he was in kindergarten
>chooses memes from 5 years ago because in his head that's a long time ago

kid, you stumbled into the wrong neighborhood.

>>17314436
>what happened to my juice bags in primary school
now i know

>>17314436
>I thought they shipped in soda in like barrels and had a reservoir tank like a gas station
you’re so fucking retarded for actually thinking this

>>17314436
>hospital IV drips anytown USA 2022

>>17314558
Kegged beer is rarely carbonated and relies on the tap system for carbonation.

>>17314436
>If it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
and the student was enlightened.

>>17315134
worst analogy i've ever seen

>>17314766
shut up queer

>>17314569
congrats anon you've discovered malt liquor

>>17317522
>dumb frogposter
>calling someone else queer
oh the ironing

>>17314436
beer from a tap is done the same way

>>17314602
A pub I worked at used to have rum and cola on tap. I used to drunk it until my stomach could hold no more

>>17314510
>you think theres god damn kegs in the shape of a coke bottle that the servers milk for fresh coca cola?
There used to be

>>17314660
>For relaxing times, make it Suntory time

>>17314660
>>17314728
japan is ahead of the curve on alcohol in general, I felt so self-conscious buying 7% ABV beer in a 7 Eleven at 1pm until I found out pretty much every one of them has it and also saw a guy drinking one on the train surrounded by people

>>17314436
>"Oh my god, I JUST found out I'm a cattle slave being fed overpriced chemical slop!"

>>17315066
>>17314965
>take corn
>synthesize it and shove in as many chemicals as possible
>process it more than a Mcdonalds hamburger
>result is poison that can cause diabetes, kidney stones and even cancer

hmmm, why would I be wary of high fructose corn syrup?

>>17318453
>he doesnt instantly get wasted in public drinking 9% strong zeros when he arrives in Japan
Ngmi

>>17315162
5X the caffine would give be an upset tummy

>>17314436
>If it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
They jack up the price so they can afford to sell other things at near-cost. The cost of your soda to the restaurant is about a dime, less if you don't get a cup+lid+straw.
Knew a guy who owned a restaurant, and he said soda is the second-lowest-cost food item to a restaurant (or any other place that serves food, like a gas station): the bulk of the cost of a drink is actually the disposable cup. The cheapest are those slushies, because they're basically the same as soda, but use even less syrup.

>>17318967
>t. dickfuck twenty-something year old

>>17314436
Some places do still use kegs but not many of them, it's much easier to have just the syrup and mixing it with carbonated water at the machine. Kinda fucked up the used keg market for homebrew unfortunately.

>>17314827
idk what a syrup hose is, but if you can bring a length of it to a hardware store and show the sales people they might be able to help

>>17314436
been a while since i did the math
5 gallon bag in boxes are about $80 from our distributor. (don't believe higher prices online--those are resellers with shipping costs inflated because these fuckers weigh about 30 pounds and cost about their full value to ship)
640 ounces are in 5 gallons
water is mixed with syrup 5:1 in the machine. this can be adjusted, usually syrup is lowered rather than raised.
we sell 22 ounce cups at $2.15 tax incl., so 22/6=3.66¯
640/3.66 is 174 refills per BIB
yields $375.96, for a $295.96 profit, and the actual cost of your drink to the restaurant is about 46 cents. this excludes other COGs like cups straws and lids because i don't recall the prices on those right now. the market is wacky for plastic at the moment.

protip 1: ask for no ice, nobody cleans their ice machines anywhere. no exceptions. if the ice machine is built in to a soda fountain, don't buy a drink. this is the case for most coke freestyle machines. they have hoshizakis installed on top. those things are mold havens. if a task involves expending effort AND getting up on a ladder, nobody is doing that shit and you know it, don't fool yourself.
protip 2: if the machine is self-serve don't buy a drink, go to the machine first, twist the black nozzle clockwise and pull it off. just do it and don't be a bitch about it, no it's not "against the rules" nobody who works there gives a fuck that you're doing this. there's a white or transparent cap under it as well, that's the diffuser/internal mixer. pull down on it and pull it out and take a look at it. if it's blackened anywhere that's mold. don't buy a drink. the earliest mold growth starts inside the series of holes around the top. your water and syrup is dispensed through those holes. mold growth does not happen quickly on these parts. it takes 3-7 days depending on the environment. that's a long amount of time of not cleaning the soda machine. it's supposed to be a daily task in every restaurant.

>>17314436
>If it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
most of the cost is in shipping and marketing the product.

>>17317547
huh

>>17314558
Why are reyards always at the forefront spewing retarded thoughts/opinions

>>17314766
only the BABYFUCK BABYFUCK meme but other than that youre gay

>>17321933
Too much work, our species has been drinking moldy, slimy, shitty water out of ponds for hundreds of thousands of years. In Africa they still do in fact. Tap water is already chlorinated, you're very unlikely to get sick from a soda machine.

>>17315134
>sirloin burger doesnt come from sirloin
>100% grape juice doesnt come from grapes

>>17314436
its the same with kegged beer you get on tap, it starts out flat and is carbonated at the bar
the good thing about this way of doing things is that you can regulate carbonation pretty easily and change it when needed, so if you have a half full container of flat soda, you can recarbonate it which requires more co2 than if it were full
and since its a syrup it makes transporting easier rather than dealing with heavy and expensive kegs or fragile and volatile bottles

>>17314529
force carbonated beer is not the same as naturally carbonated

>>17323766
>unlikely to get sick from a soda machine.
some people are more mold-sensitive than others, i offer some simple advice for avoiding such easily-avoidable food-borne ailments. it's not really a waste of time, just twist the shit off and take a look. i'd encourage people to know and perform this more often when you get drinks from a machine that's self-serve and open to the general public. mold exposure can excite fever and lack of appetite even in small doses. not cleaning a soda fountain or ice machine are the single most common restaurant offenses, trust me. nobody's gonna knock you for checking their oversought work.

another not fancy trick you can do is poke around the drip tray valves under the overflow trays of any soda fountain. they're usually plastic holes that derive from the ice chamber and end in the overflow tray. they exist to expunge melted ice water from the ice chamber above which is of course another mold haven. you will most certainly find black mold on them and you shouldn't find this surprising, but what's more interesting is if you poke a finger or straw up those holes, especially in coke machines, it'll sometimes excrete a white, extra large tablespoon-sized, mucous consistent clump of mold. i've heard the term 'coke snot' thrown around in this industry to refer to the stuff, but have yet to find any concrete information on what the fuck the stuff actually forms from or what it's mostly comprised of. i can't find any good search results on the term and this pic from r*ddit is the closest i can show how it looks. if you can just imagine it's not dyed brown that's what it always looks like.

if you can conceivably throw away your ideas that the general public or people who work for them are to be 'trusted' then you'd probably also be curious about what weird chemistry science experiments you're allowing them to microdose into your body. from my decade long experience in food i'd say no thanks to that sort of negligence tyvm.

>>17321933
I'm pretty sure in the five years I worked at a restaurant the caps on the soda machine were cleaned four times. Three of those were in a single month by a particular employee who took it upon herself to do it once a week.

>>17314436
>I thought
I think I see the problem here.

>>17318453
>>17319125
My pre pandemic yearly vacations were to Japan because of this basically. Those strong zeros are way too sweet though and make me sick

>>17314529
you cant brew beer in a thick syrup then add water. brewing requires a certain ratio of water to malt. you can carbonate it but you cant reduce it down to a syrup, because it would lose its flavour (and alcohol) from the heat. coke is just sugar syrup mixed with spices and additives with carbonated water added, even from the factory. its not any different.

>>17314436
costs aren't just for b.i.b. syrup.
there's the water filter and co2 tanks as well.
there's also the fact that if it's a self serve fountain, customers can just skip the ice and get more soda, depleting the supply faster.

>>17314766
get bent

>>17314436
Well yea it's all just soda water and syrup. Pretty obvious when you think about it. I learned this at 14 when I got a McJob.
Either way soda is really bad for you and you should just avoid drinking it all together.

Why wouldn't it be expensive?

>>17328399
>I learned this at 14 when I got a McJob.
Don't you people have the syrup in the stores? I learned this when making soda at home.

>>17323901
coke snot will be the new graphene soon

>>17314436
Yeah, don't... drink soda man, it's real bad for you.
Diet soda still rots your teeth, not worth it.

Yeh this is why the drinks at some places taste real shitty.. they dont change the water filters.

>>17314436
>why are sodas so expensive
because you're a 300+ pound prediabetic/diabetic fatass who is addicted to sugar water.

>>17314436
>f it's just syrup mix why are sodas so expensive?
They lose money on buffets, make money on beverages.