/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17307680
yams, corn, turkey

>>17307680
look up what the natives ate before europeans arrived, some of it is still eaten today

>>17307680
>>what the fuck is a potato?
>OP, probably.

>>17307680
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishwasher_salmon

>>17307692
I don't really consider that American, that's something else. I mean American as in the United States, not indians.

>>17307699
Potatoes are Irish cuisine, not uniquely American. I'm looking for AMERICAN food, not food belonging to another culture that is consumed in America.

>>17307705
indians are the real americans

>>17307714
You know what I mean, don't be dense

>>17307713
Sushi and tacos

>>17307722
no, I don't know what you mean
native american cuisine is just as "american" as anything else mentioned here

>>17307680
Name a food that's uniquely from your country so we can disingenuously say it doesn't count due to not meeting our arbitrary standards.

BBQ isn't Korean, anon. The American BBQ comes from itself in the South. You've just never ate our real BBQ. It's based off the pit barbeque that the Native Americans used which certainly DID NOT come from Korea. It is true a lot of Koreans like our BBQ in the South because it's so comparable to their own. The origins are entirely different though.

hamburger
pizza
hotdog (not that frankfurter crap)
nachos
mac n cheese
anything involving tomatoes

>>17307680
>Are there any foods that are uniquely American?
every recipe from every third world shit hole that is improved and made edible by american hands

>>17307758
Hamburger is german
Pizza is italian
Hotdog is german
Nacho is mexican
mac-n-cheese it italian
tomatoes are italian

>>17307713
Potatoes are American (at least South). The Irish got it from the Spanish who got it from Peru.

>>17307705
tex mex food isn't really native or european so i guess that

>>17307765
ah yes, the italians, inventors of the new-world tomato

Just like our pit BBQ is unique to us & not Korea, hushpuppies and a crawdad boil are also unique to us since the crawdad is one of our native fauna. They're not really like the ones elsewhere. Plus, our catfish is unique to us because what's been a delicacy elsewhere is normal food here because they're so plentiful. Another is rainbow trout. In fact, the U.S. has many, many unique freshwater offerings that aren't 'copy-cats' of other countries.

Elsewhere crawdads... they're more like lobsters.

And don't even get me started on dessert. Red velvet cake, real red velvet, being one of the most notable. Oftentimes, people forget red velvet is uniquely American with the recipe itself being based off what was on-hand during U.S. food shortages. (It is supposed to contain cocoa, a small amount, for starters.)

Also peach cobbler, in the form we eat it, is uniquely American.

>>17307731
Probably because people are "mentioning here" foods like sushi and potatoes like morons because they didn't read the OP or because they just want to troll and waste time.

And hard to find a good one because it's so intensive & expensive to make, but a good pecan pie is uniquely American.

And I could be wrong, but I think the peanut butter pie is American too.

>>17307713
Potatoes came from the Americas retard

Same with tomato and every spicy pepper

If you've not ate good uniquely American cuisine then I'm sorry no one told you about it. The South & areas out in the midwestern region have a lot of food unique to America. Like one anon said, the Tex-Mex area does too although that'd fall under you saying that it's borrowed.

>>17307713
if you're disqualifying any ingredient used in another culture, then you're never going to find any "unique foods" anywhere in the world

>>17307831
I don't care where it came from, it is typically identified with the Irish

>>17307835
Most Southern cuisine is really just Black "soul food" that white people eat too, it isn't really American in the sense that the OP means.

>>17307841
What anon is saying is our mashed potatoes are English.

The American way to cook a potato is a hash brown, OP! You can load it with everything. A good hashbrown isn't easy to make from scratch though because of the rinsing process.

>>17307852
Actually, most our food came from the Natives. I happen to know this being from the area. To say it came from black people is actually insulting and any black person who knows the history can tell you why. After all, there were no black people to teach my ancestors. There were however Native Americans.

Crawdads intermix with soul food, yes. At least, out down when you get into Creolean cuisine.

A lot of 'soul food' is actually Southern food & a lot of Southern food is actually soul food, but to say all Southern food came from soul food is an insult.

>>17307852
Other then if you want a hint, people in some parts weren't responsible for the trail of tears, anon. Those same parts also didn't own slaves. However, existing within regions slavery was legal, black people didn't exactly stick around. To do so could've gotten them enslaved.

>>17307852
Other then if you want a hint, people in some parts weren't responsible for the Trail of Tears, anon. Those same parts also didn't own slaves. However, existing within regions slavery was legal, black people didn't exactly stick around. To do so could've gotten them enslaved.

There is real American cuisine, but we're also the melting pot so... it's not as if you should expect to find anything uniquely American to be commonplace.

There's nothing wrong with that. Most our recipes don't lend well to anything except family cooking anyways.

>>17307869
Go to New Orleans, literally every "Creole" restaurant is Black. You're just describing soul food like it ain't soul food.

>>17307680
>Even BBQ is Korean.
its native american

>>17307896
Anon, you didn't read what I said otherwise you would realize you've done nothing except repeat what I said. Read what I said again.

I'm not even being mean.

>>17307898
Koreans have their own unique form of BBQ that's most comparable to American BBQ. I do get why OP said that. They just failed to realize the two came about separately without influencing one another.

If you like Korean BBQ, you're going to like American BBQ. If you like American BBQ, you're going to like Korean BBQ.

Image is Korean BBQ.

Also, friendly reminder that black people are American just as much as white people. If we wanted to say black people don't count as American then technically the whites don't count either.

>>17307841
yeah if one ingredient was founded in one place no dish in the whole word can be called from there. french dish uses a potato NOPE IRISH

>>17307680
Nothing is unique. Everything came from caveman.

>>17307896
Take for example a fish fry. Yeah, often times seasoning came from soul food. However, you look at something like mac & cheese, it's reversed. Some areas you didn't actually have black people & most the poorer whites were learning from the natives. Both black and white Americans learned from the Natives. You also had when white people weren't allowed to be enslaved anymore & many white cooks passed their recipes to black cooks for the wealthier families, those recipes were modified.

>describing soul food like it ain't soul food.

You forget how much transfer of recipes were actually going on between the Natives, whites, and blacks. If we're talking about the South specifically, it gets really murky. It's also a pretty dark history.

It's why people here in some areas cried when "they" told the Native Americans they had to leave. (The people giving the accounts just call those who told the Native Americans to leave, 'they'.)

>>17307777
Checked and based. Texas BBQ and Tex-Mex are entirely American.

Why can't white people cook?

Because the people who owned slaves couldn't cook.

God, I hope at least one person laughs.

>>17307933
No, because black people are not white.

>>17308016
>Tex-Mex
>Mex
>entirely American
Stupid

Why can't white people cook?

Because the people who owned slaves never learned to cook.

God, I hope at least one person laughs.

>>17308031
I get it

>>17308026
Anon, I won't be catching any catfish with that bait.

Alternatively, you're not baiting. If you're foreign, you really, really don't need to study 4chan as a basis to U.S. history based upon racial perceptions.

Otherwise you'll think 'soul food' isn't American because it's 'black'.

>>17308029
You dumb or something?

>>17307680

>are there any foods that are uniquely less than 300 years old

You mean besides high fructose corn syrup?

>>17308047

>>17308093
go back

>>17308084
you can mix and match ingredients dumbass

>>17307852
>>17308026
Now, in the off chance you're the latter & not baiting.

If you ask most what the difference between soul & comfort food is, they'll tell you it's in the spices saying that soul uses more peppers. Comfort food uses... chives. That's one example. Comfort food uses a lot of chives, basil, onion seasoning, salt, black pepper, and thyme. Soul food will use more paprika, larger and more varied amounts of pepper including peppercorn itself, all spice, bay, and mustard.

Okra is one feature of comfort food that most who call comfort food 'Southern food', will call 'soul food'. They'll tell you okra distinctly comes from African-American culture. It is featured in a lot of comfort food diners. It's also true most crawdad boils and fish fries feature soul food seasoning instead of comfort food seasoning.

Does that make sense? There's not a lot of distinction for a reason. That's because of that dark history I mentioned about Southern cuisine.

>>17307680
tomato, corn, turkey, bison

>>17308093
Anon, I don't mean to insult you. I'm just making a valid point. I may belong in a trash can, but I don't use Reddit.

>>17308093
Anon, I don't mean to insult you. I'm just making a valid point. I may belong in a trash can but I don't use Reddit.

>>17307765
pizza isn't italian, it's italian-american

>>17308197
Margherita is Italian.

>>17307765
>Hotdog is german.

True, but if you hand pic related to an American, they're gonna' say WTF is that?

apple pie
it's as american as apple pie

>>17307765
Going on >>17308245, they'd be much more accustomed to this kind of dog in the U.S.

>>17308245
I mean, I'm pretty confident most people could recognize that as a hot dog anon...

I'd more easily recognize this >>17308245 as a hotdog than this >>17308257 pile of sloppa

t. amerilard

>>17308273
>>17308266
You all got no taste in dogs.

>I'm sure the German hot dog is very tasty.

>>17308273
>>17308266
You all got no taste in dogs.

>I'm sure the German hot dog is very tasty. I'm not saying it isn't.

>ingredients that originated in America, but have gained an arbitrary association with a non-United States culture despite the ingredients reigning popularity in the united states do not count
>dishes brought over from original european settlers and changed over time do not count
>dishes from native americans do not count
>dishes created by a merger of united states and other culture do not count
>food popularized by United States citizens that has now grown internationally does not count
What the fuck is this thread? Why is it the way it is? OP doesn't seem like he understands the distinction between 'ingredient' and 'dish' nor does it seem like he wants to even attempt to learn anything at all about american cuisine.

>>17308317
>What the fuck is this thread?

It's the thread where we argue about what American hot dogs look like & whether or not soul food counts as American since it's 'black', I guess.

>>17308317
Yeah, what the fuck op. Take the buckeye, for example. It's made using plants from the Americas, named after an American plant, and invented by Americans. What the fuck else does this autismo want?

>>17308317
>>17308404
OP is the same kind of person that says America has no culture despite being so powerful that american culture is the default western globalist culture.

>>17308404
by OP's logic, chocolate is swiss and/or belgian, therefore buckeyes aren't american. You're falling for very, very lazy, extremely obvious bait

>>17308523
doesnt that definitely make chicago deep dish american then by that same logic

>>17308613
No. In OP's words, tomatoes are Italian.

>>17307713
The problem with your gay nigger logic is you're always going to find some loophole for it to be "lol not american" using origin of ingredients as a last resort, so youre never going to be able to find a 100% unique food with a society thats only been around the last 5% or written history, so kys

>>17308047
Blacks aren't Americans. They belong to their own nation that underwent an ethnogenesis in the 20th century, with their own heroes (MLK, Malcolm X etc.) and cultural mores and values. The USA is a fundamentally European nation based on English law and inheriting Roman civilization.

>>17308523
That's not my logic at all, you're misrepresenting my words because you can't understand the concept of cultural ownership. You think lasagna isn't Italian because the tomato wasn't native to Italy, it's an easy thing to follow and you still can't.

>>17307933
>Also, friendly reminder that black people are American just as much as white people. If we wanted to say black people don't count as American then technically the whites don't count either.
>>17308031
>Why can't white people cook?
>Because the people who owned slaves never learned to cook.
>God, I hope at least one person laughs.
>>17308047
>Anon, I won't be catching any catfish with that bait.
>Alternatively, you're not baiting. If you're foreign, you really, really don't need to study 4chan as a basis to U.S. history based upon racial perceptions.
>Otherwise you'll think 'soul food' isn't American because it's 'black'.
>>17308116
>go back
>>17308130
>Anon, I don't mean to insult you. I'm just making a valid point. I may belong in a trash can but I don't use Reddit.

>>17308813
kill white people

>>17308658
What about mutts who make up most of the "white" citizens in your 3rd world country?

>>17308838
We're going to bomb your country, lolololol. Literally, you're going to be murdered by a bunch of multinational Americans from poor rural white areas, American Samoa and Puerto Rico, and black urbanites.

>>17308826
>kill white people
>>17308838
>What about mutts who make up most of the "white" citizens in your 3rd world country?