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>>17175865
>i've been buying liquor just to try, and i really don't understand it.
take tiny sips, like half a teaspoon at most and savor them

>>17175874
i shiver and have the urge to almost vomit when i drink liquor unless i try sort of hard to ignore it. it seems like that's a response to all the bad alcohol i had as a teenager, but i don't know. does that sound right? i had a lot of cheap, plastic-bottled-coconut-flavored hard liquor and syrup-y sweet vodka during those years. and fireball. all to say, drinking isn't easy for me and i'm just wondering how normal that is

>>17175890
you're overthinking things nigga. pour one or two fingers of that tequila or that whisky into a glass and sip it over the course of the next 3 hours and that's all you'll drink for tonight. at the end ask yourself whether you liked the experience.

bump

>>17175865
It’s super easy, just hate your life, hate your family, hate yourself and then drink vodka mixed with soft drink until you feel nothing.

>>17175908
Basically this. Also Toki isn’t that good.

>>17175865
>and the alcohol drowns everything out for me.
yes welcome to being a super taster. since you can actually taste the alcohol you will never "acquire a taste". your best bet is mixed drinks or very low proof booze like amaretto.

>>17175865
Sounds like you should chill on cocktails for a couple of years, and then maybe check back with some higher quality neat spirits.

>>17175865
Alternative to being super "into" the flavours -
Enjoy getting drunk instead. After a few years you'll just get used to the taste and will find some you kinda like. Works every time.
Spare liver not included.

As a non joke answer, you may wanna stick to cocktails and shit if you just can't enjoy anything neat. Figure out if you prefer sweet or sour or bitter etc and try some things. I fell in love with Ocean Potions, which are just super sweet and have a few units per drink. Pretty bright blue colour too.
2 parts Blue curaçao
2 parts Malibu
2 parts Peach schnapps
top up lemon&lime soda pop

Start with cocktails and mixed drinks. Try various brands and see how they compare in the drinks. Once you get a sense of what you like and dislike, you can branch out into drinking liquor straight. You gotta try different spirits and find what you like. Until you get some experience, everything that's 25% or higher ABV is just going to taste like alcohol.

>>17175865
You don't like liquor, OP. How hard is that to accept? Trying making mixed drinks. That might be the ticket to using what you've got.

>>17175865
Probably what this poster said:
>>17177380

Alcohol is for people that have problems, or want go relax, or need social lubricant. You don't seem to have a purpose for it.

I started drinking when i was 18, I'm 36 now. For 3 months in between that time period I did not drink. My life is stress and I usually drink every night to escape. It's ok, OP, you don't have to be an alcohol person.

Also, mixed drinks are fucking gay unless it's a mimosa or subsidiary of a bloody mary.

I don't drink out of choice.

>>17175865
>i bought some hennessy, and it tastes almost the exact same
Those are fighting words lad, Hennessy is truly delicious

>>17175865
>how do i into alcohol?

Into? You sound young. You need to be at least 18yo to post here, but more importantly, most countries require you to be at least 21yo to drink alcohol legally.

>>17175865
drink red wine

>>17177656
"most countries". Yes, in usa, and in the islamic countries in middle east, and probably in the scandinavia which is 3 other countries.


>>17175865
Either wait till you are post 25-28,so your tastebuds biologically mature (no kidding, as you age, your preferred taste is sifting from sweet to sour and less sweet )
Or: sit down with some of your frends and pour a glass and take a chat.
I personally really hate beer and vine,but when I am with frends, its really doesnt bother me much. Probably some psichology effect, but I can drink, and like the stuff more. At home, alone? Its undrukable junk. Same with whiskey and gin.

>>17175865
You bought shit.
Replace Tito's with Ketel One, Zyr if you can find it
Jameson with Tullamore Dew
Patron with 1800 Reposado
Jägermeister you either love or hate, not much you can do there. Try Disarono or Grand Marnier.
Suntory Toki is actually pretty good, JW black goes down smooth too
Same with Bailey's
This is how you into alcohol

>>17177656
>>17177736
op here, i'm 20 and found a liquor store that doesn't card so i'm having fun and trying to see what i like is all
>>17177741
i actually like jager quite a bit, and bailey's is great as well. mostly because they're sugary and the strong licorice taste of jager drowns out the alcohol

whats the difference between "bottled in bond" and regular 100 proof shit like wild turkey?

also, is "single barrel" a gimmick

>>17175865
I work in a Gin distillery doing tastings.

It's hard to really learn to appreciate any alcohol in the bubble of that one alcoholic spirit, the best way to learn the differences between any spirit are with direct comparisons next to each other in the same sitting.

Before you get to that, your mouth needs to adjust to the alcoholic content of liquor, you spend all day drinking regular things and then it's time for you to put a spirit in your mouth and all you get is a burning sensation with high ethanol content and it tastes like shit. you cough, sputter, maybe your eyes water up if you're really new - all the same, you haven't "tempered" your mouth. to adjust - take a small sip of the spirit and do your best to hold your breath for 10 seconds while you swish and move that spirit to every part of your mouth, don't look for flavours, don't try to make up your mind about it any which way just coat your mouth, swallow and take a moment to let it dissipate.

Once that is done, now you take a sip and you'll be able to taste it better, this is when you're going to be better able to taste it. done rinse your mouth out with water or soda water when you move between spirits, if you're comparing that Toki to the Jameson, look up some tasting notes and flick between the two of them and just bounce between the two.

When trying to understand the nose of a drink, breathe in through your nose and your mouth at the same time, hovering the rim of the glass just below the nostrils but not touching, otherwise, it'll just be a knockout of ethanol and whatever dominant flavours exist, oak, barley and vanilla.

I cant guarantee that you wont want to vomit - that seems to be a you problem - but you've picked some cheaper spirits minus the patron, that really aren't made for sipping, fortunately, you can always explore each of these with soda to give length to the body of the drink.

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>>17175865
the thing is, none of it will taste good at first
on top of that, its hard, though not impossible, to find good alcohol at a cheap price point. a lot of snobs will pretend to like disgusting swill like evan williams or mount gay and thus lead you in the wrong direction.
I'd suggest scotch as a starter whiskey. something like monkey shoulder or isle of skye. for tequila, try espolon or g4. for rum, it depends how much sugar/additives you want. appleton is a safe choice. its a great mixer if you end up not liking it neat. bumbu is popular but rum snobs turn their nose up to it. I dont care for it personally, but you might like it. tastes kinda like candy

>>17178422
Honestly I think you’re just not acclimated. No one likes coffee the first time they have it either. Just keep trying it but don’t feel like you need to learn how to drink it like water. Grown adults still grimace after shots.

>>17176026
That isn't what 'super taster' means, you're just a tastelet

>>17175890
>i had a lot of cheap, plastic-bottled-coconut-flavored hard liquor and syrup-y sweet vodka during those years. and fireball. all to say, drinking isn't easy for me and i'm just wondering how normal that is
anything with a "fruit flavor" label is usually shit
vodka is usually bad too. its meant to be mixed and get you fucked up, not really to be enjoyed

Water it down to get rid of the alcohol taste. As your body gets used to the taste of poison you will notice the other flavours.

>>17178924
>>17175865
Continued.

Not every bottle is going to be suited for sipping neat.

Unfortunately, you haven't picked what I'd consider a good first impression of any of these categories, in any case, I'll try my best to give you some ideas of how to use these better to give you an idea of some versatility. I assume you don't have a shaker tin so I'm just going to stick to highballs.

If you insist on neat tasting - I stated in the last post you'll want to do a direct comparison. Jameson and Toki are two worlds apart but they're still in the same umbrella of whiskey, taste them side by side and try to pick some differences, the Toki should present itself as a lighter and softer whiskey with perhaps some sharper higher notes going on. the Jameson is an Irish whiskey - unpeated and it's going to be more nuts and fruits without a whole heap of complexity everyone tastes different things.

- 1/12oz of that Japanese into a tall glass, add ice and top it with soda - stir. this Japanese highball should be refreshing and you'll be getting the soft oaks and if it's still too much alcohol for you, take a wedge of lemon, squeeze about half a teaspoon in and stir it through. this drink is designed for hot days in a humid climate, Japanese highballs are a product of their environment.

The Jameson can stand up to more brutality, give it some length with ginger ale, lemon or lime to accent. same build.

The Blanco Is made for margaritas a small bottle of Cointreau would be a bonus for you.
- Fevertree Mexican lime soda and that tequila - 35ml tequila, ice and top with soda.

I'm just really sorry that you bought the Baileys. put it on ice cream or a cosy spot in a drain.

Jagermeister Is a weird one. Have it straight over ice but if you want to have some really fun tear up some mint leaves into the bottom of your glass, add 60ml of jager, add half an ounce of lime juice and then add ice, top it up with ginger beer.

>>17178918
Bottled in bond is a designation of authenticity. basically, you're going to get what you pay for more or less.
- Minimum age of 4 years
- Minimum 100% proof (50%ABV)
- Be the product of one distillery and one distiller from one season.

Regular 100 Proof shit is usually a straight bourbon, which isn't necessarily shit (just sometimes it is).
it's just not the same as another bottle. straight bourbon must be Aged in charred Virgin Oak Barrels for a minimum of two years, and with 51% corn minimum in their mash bill, however, even still, the other grains are going to affect the outcome of that bourbon, if there are rye grains in that bourbons mash ill, expect a spicy finish.

Single barrel just means that the whiskey only comes from one barrel.

When we think of scotches in terms of single malts and as blends, we often forget that single malt cant be the same malt from different barrels, this process is called vatting, and it's a blend of different ages of barrel to make a particular bottle, which may still be a single malt, but it may have an 8 year (60% of the bottle) and a 12 year (40% of the bottle) year blended together to make a single malt.

is it a gimmick? maybe.

>>17175865
you drink it to get drunk you fucking moron
if you want flavor buy a pack of chewing gum

>>17179085
correction to myself for clarity, they 'can' be the same malt. it's just different barrels.

>>17179088
Sad

>>17175865
Kek. Japanese whiskey is a waste of money for everyone exept people in actual Japan and even more so if you're new to alcohol. You should ease into it with weaker stuff like different beers. That's a good place to start also drinks.

>>17175865
What's a good bourbon in the $30-$40 range for a non elitist that like whiskey highballs and occasionally has a good pour over rocks?

You need to get so drunk you can't taste the alcohol. Once your physical tolerance is a bit up you can get less grossed out by the whiskey.

I could tell I could start tasting the alcohol after a wood-like flavor was apparent in whiskey.

>>17175908
This.

>>17179085
yeah but they can't write out the oldest of the vats on the bottle, it has to be the youngest. So they can't really 'cheat' with the method.

>>17175865
fruit wines like sangria are amazing to drink and that's my go-to when I want to get drunk. but it makes my shit black.

>>17179284
Yeah, you're absolutely right, just as cognac requires the youngest age in the blend to be present on a bottle, the same goes for what you're saying - that the age is the minimum age, not the oldest.

>>17179206
wt101

>>17178924
>>17179035
could be a reddit LARP but either way it sounds like wel thought out advice and i'll definitely try those cocktails.
>sorry you bought the bailey's
i put it in coffee sometimes fuck you
>jager
as mentioned i do like jager by itself honestly
any recommendations? i'm not swimming in money but i could splurge on an $80-$100 bottle of whatever every now and then if i really wanna treat myself. i also did get some hennessy if you didn't see that

>>17175865
zoomers can't even manage to get drunk on their own without getting a fucking e-tutorial.

>>17175865
>how do i into alcohol?
you will know when you get there anon

>>17179482
last post best post

>>17179480
not about getting drunk you faggot. if i wanted to do that i'd just buy whatever cheap vodka. kill yourself

>>17179578
you can't even take a sip of liquor without killing yourself you underage faggot

>>17178422
>i'm 20 and found a liquor store that doesn't card so i'm having fun and trying to see what i like is all

Just remember - all things in moderation. So, don't overdo it and you should be fine. This is one of those times when family is usually around, so this is an opportunity to ask them about alcohol and what they like to drink.

>>17179206
You should check out the /wg/ whiskey general threads here on /ck/.

just drink fag lol

>>17179635
He’s right you know, OP.

>>17179449

I did post a drink that uses jager.
>tear up some mint leaves into the bottom of your glass, add 60ml of jager, add half an ounce of lime juice and then add ice, top it up with ginger beer

> i also did get some Hennessy
Yeah I did see that, the henny is fine for the most part but they're a brand and they don't distil their own cognac, it's outsourced to other distilleries and then the distillate is sent to the Hennesey blend masters to finish the particular edition of that bottle, so for what it's worth, I don't consider them much more than a LV of cognac, it's a brand. Just enjoy neat or if it's not the most expensive cognac, make a sazerac with it. it's the OG ingredient before whiskey was used, or just make a nice side car, honestly, cognac is just one of those things that again benefits from direct comparison from other things when learning about it, it's very hard to taste drinks on their own unless you have a baseline because you're likely to just make things up.

>any recommendations?
What are you interested in? it's hard to really pick a good starting point anywhere unless you have a set of flavours you're already keen on, you like jager - amari would probably suit you if you're not looking to mix too heavily, Montenegro and Averna, possibly sweet vermouth also. these things are all lower ABV, the abv of vermouth being only 17.5%, jager being only 35% and has added sugars, more so than those whiskeys - probably why you find it more tolerable.

Rittenhouse rye whiskey one day as your lenience to Jagermeister suggest that you like bolder and more aggressive flavours. but maybe in the future, maybe as an order at a bar. it's higher ABV but it's also higher in quality - it feels like a smooth 40%.

Man, it's taken me ages and ages to get to the point where i'm able to taste notes at all, read a lot, learn about how bottles are made, it's one of the only way to understand why some things matter at all.

>>17180297
>CHUCK'D

>>17178422

>>17175865
Try cointreau if you find it.

From your cabinet, Baileys and jaeger is pretty easy to enjoy. Patron is a highshelf tequila, drink it with salt+lime.
The big bottle whiskey.... I think you will dislike it, and wont like it in the long run. Its too much and too strong. You would need to drink many different whiskeys through weeks/months to differentiate.

All in all, you shoud buy way smaller bottles, from way more kind of drinks. Test it 1 or 2 a day with dinner.
But i am 30 and i know, how i was at 20. So go for it.

>>17175865
everyone has different tastes, but if you feel like you cant enjoy some of the finer bottles just save them for later
or what some people will do is hate the stuff the first couple of times they try it then get down to a quarter of a bottle left and then love it and wish they had more
i remember the first time i ever had hard liquor i was reenacting with some friends and one of them comes out with cherry bounce and asks if any of us had the balls to try it (as they all suspected it to be very strong) then were surprised when i took a sip without revolting, it was some of the finest shit i've tasted

>>17177656
lurk more.

>>17179578
>>17180706
>>17180297
all OP

>tfw alcohol has stopped doing it for me anymore
What do? I took a 3 month break from alcohol, then got some rum and all it did was give me a headache, didn't get me buzzed and drunk like it used to.

>>17182268
drink softer liquors like hard cider and beer and drink to enjoy the taste rather than the affect like normal people

>>17180892
>Try cointreau if you find it.

Fuck that, that crap tastes nasty, unless all you're going to use it for is to make mixed drinks. Grand Marnier is much better than Cointreau.

OP will always be a faggot

got a bottle of evan williams bib
tastes ok but it smells like feet lmao

>>17182833
Well - if you're mixing with it - they have different purposes. they're aren't entirely directly interchangeable.

bump

>>17175865
fucj that gay shit just buy a case of natty and throw them back throughout your day. keeps you hydrated and cures anxiety

Where my ethyl alcohol hand sanitizer chads at?

Isopropyl chuds need not apply.

>>17185160
I feel like that marks a very important transition from Problem to Big Problem.
Like when opiate users start on the needles.

>>17175865

Hello anon I'm an amateur bartender (I make drinks for friends and family during holidays and parties like cocktails or eggnog/wassail/buttered beer for Christmas) And here are some general tips:

>Chilling makes the drink generally a little more palatable for people that find the taste overpowering
>Adding a tiny bit of water will bring out flavours and also take the edge off a little
>The longer something has been aged, generally the smoother, which is why shit is more expensive
>Try cocktails if you wanna experience something boozy but generally sweeter or less "confrontational" that straight sippin hard booze
>if you want, you can add a little simple syrup (Equal parts sugar and water) to a drink to make it more palatable and sweet

I recommend buying some Drambuie and whisky and making a rusty nail (With a ratio of 1:2)

>>17185199

Once you're homeless like me those petty standards disappear like snow on a summer's day.

The great advantage is that medical grade alcohol causes zero hangover, so who's the loser now?

>>17185204

Don't drink Drambuie. Please.
I had a one week hangover after getting drunk on Drambuie.
Worst week of my life, almost lost my job due to it.

im having withdrawal and want a hug and a beer

>>17186497
and here you are with neither, ain't life ironic.