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If rice is so fattening, why are Asian nations so skinny?

>> No.16699459

because of all the intestinal parasites

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this is now a beijing bikini thread.

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>>16699486

>> No.16699493

>>16699457
portions. /thread

>> No.16699500

>>16699493
> /thread-ing your own post
Sad, many such cases

>> No.16699508

they mainly eat fish/meat and veggies with rice being filler. small portions of 100 to 150 grams

>> No.16699513

>>16699457
Cities are very walkable and the portions of meat in the dishes are small.

t. Lived in China for a year and lost 60 lbs

>> No.16699519

One time, monkey brains

>> No.16699522

>>16699519
two times, going insane

>> No.16699541

>>16699457
Asians have some gene where rice carbs don't affect them. And they arent lazy fat fucks like you.

>> No.16699566

>>16699457
They tend to face generational starvation events.

>> No.16699569

>>16699541
>Asians have some gene where rice carbs don't affect them.
I remember seeing a paper make this claim but haven't been able to find it since. Please post if you can. But from what I remember it was that certain Asian populations get a reduced glyciemic load from rice which makes sense if they've been eating it for tens of thousands of years.

>> No.16699571

>>16699457
>The diets of subsistence farming societies were historically based on inexpensive, high-carbohydrate grains and tubers without the metabolic consequences suggested by the CIM. However, such ecological observations are subject to multiple interpretations, among them that people in these rural societies had high levels of occupational physical activity and restricted food availability, both of which might offset dietary influences on weight gain. Among Chinese with recent access to high-GL/high-sugar diets, obesity and metabolic disease have reached epidemic proportions (159). Beyond macronutrient changes, the “nutrition transition” in developing nations beginning in the 1970s (coincident with the low-fat diet era in the United States and Europe) is typified by replacement of traditional carbohydrates with processed starches and sugars that have a higher GL (160). In any event, many dietary and nondietary factors undoubtedly contribute to these trends.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ajcn/nqab270/6369073

>> No.16699573

>>16699457
China has similar diabetes rate to US or UK. Tofi is more common in Asians as well.

>> No.16699586

>>16699541
>>16699569
these studies show that asians have a 'greater' glycemic response to sucrose and rice than europeans


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233771610_Glycaemic_responses_to_glucose_and_rice_in_people_of_Chinese_and_European_ethnicity
Conclusions: Glycaemic responses following ingestion of glucose and several rice varieties are appreciably greater in Chinese compared with Europeans, suggesting the need to review recommendations regarding dietary carbohydrate amongst rice-eating populations at high risk of diabetes.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5409686/
Conclusion:
In conclusion, all Asian populations—especially Malays—were shown to have significantly higher GR than Caucasians to both sugars. These results indicate that the impact and relevance of replacing sucrose with isomaltulose may have a significant influence on glycemic control in Malays who have greater susceptibility to type 2 diabetes mellitus.

>> No.16699606

>>16699457
>>16699459
>>16699493
>>16699500
>>16699513
>>16699541
>>16699566
>>16699569
>>16699571
>>16699586
>asian nations so skinny
China has the largest number of obese children in the world, and the largest number of obese adults only second to US.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2098042/china-has-largest-number-obese-children-world-says-study

Japan is a place where the portions are tiny and they walk everywhere mostly. They even have a law where some people can get fined for being overweight. Brazil is another country where rice is their main staple, 55.4% of Brazilian adults over there were obese in 2019. 50% of Malaysian adults are overweight or obese. Stereotypes don't seem to match reality. Rice is fattening, but some people can get around that by portion sizes, calorie burning, a lot of other factors come into play. Lebron James' diet consists of junk food and lots of high fructose corn syrup but he's still fit. Doesn't mean junk food is not fattening.

>> No.16699620

>>16699586
>these studies show that asians have a 'greater' glycemic response to sucrose and rice than europeans
That seems counter intuitive to me. So they are better at turning rice into blood sugar? But that means they are worse at keeping their blood sugar controlled from rice?

>> No.16699630

>>16699620
They're not better at anything. Each human being is different at processing foods, it's called bioindividuality. Why do you act like fat asians don't exist everywhere and act like the cliche skinny stereotype is guaranteed? Why do you act like there are many asian countries that actually have a lot of adult and child obesity? All this to cope so you can eat rice

>> No.16699643

>>16699630
I'm just saying I would've expected a population that has consumed rice for a significant period of time to have adapted to better metabolize it. But this seems like the opposite is the case.

>> No.16699648

>>16699457
>no daikon
>no ponzu
>no furikake
>weak sashimi portions

5/10, would not return.

>> No.16699649 [DELETED] 

>>16699457
Not full of subhuman whites

>> No.16699658

I want someone to start The Race Diet so bad just so it can trigger so many people. Your Asian? Eat rice? Indian eat corn. Glorious European stock wheat and dairy. Eat what your ancestors eat. It's no more faggoty than the Paleo or keto diet

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>>16699606
>China has the largest number of obese children in the world, and the largest number of obese adults only second to US

China's population is larger than the US so you should use ratios and compare... The article is blocked so I can't actually tell but I assume they're comparing obese population in size rather than ratio

>> No.16699704

>>16699606
>China has the largest number of obese children in the world, and the largest number of obese adults only second to US.
holy shit you're a retard

>> No.16699713

>>16699643
everyone in asia has corrupted their metabolism with western/junk food since the latest generations

>> No.16699720 [DELETED] 

>>16699606
they have quadruple your population you disgusting white pig moron

>> No.16699728

The average Asian person eats 1-2 bowls of rice alongside their food and they will be full for the rest of the day. They just cannot eat that much, if you, a big fat amerimutt ever visit Asia, you might be surprised at how "little" the portions of food they serve, since many westerners eat twice the amount the average scrawny Asian eats.

>> No.16699749

>>16699704
Why? In absolute numbers they have the most but in proportion to the population the US "wins."

>> No.16700706

>>16699606
China also has the largest number of children in the world and the largest number of adults in the world even greater than the US. Do you understand what I'm trying to tell you here? I know the very mention of math gives your poor brain a headache but if that's the case you shouldn't try to talk about sentient people things like statistics.

>> No.16700721

>>16699704
Okay you fucking retarded faggot let me try to explain to you.
Imagine it's the year 3000 and Jupiter is populated. It has 100 billion people while Earth capped at 20 billion.
Now, Jupiter has 11 billion obese people. Earth has 10 billion.
On futurechan.org/ck/ an anon makes a thread asking why Earthlings are so fat. Half their fucking planet is obese!
Then some stupid fucking retard points to Jupiter and says they have even more people that are obese!
Then another anon calls the fucking retard a retard. Because on Jupiter one in ten people are obese but half of Earth is obese. Clearly Earth has a fucking problem.
Then the fucking retard says b-but Jupiter has more fat people!
Do you know why you're mentally retarded now?

>> No.16700728

>>16700721
Fuck I was so mad I responded to the wrong person.
>>16699749
Fuck you. Stupid braindead nigger.

>> No.16700731

>>16699457
Rice isn't fattening, it's just that carbs don't make you feel as full as proteins or even fats. A cup of rice isn't an awful lot of calories but no one wants to eat just a cup of rice.
Except Asian people who are apparently insane with portion control.

>> No.16700816 [DELETED] 

>>16699606
why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?
the main staple dish of nipponland is sushi which is literally just fish on rice
their curry is just watered soup
ramen is just inferior version of authentic Chinese noodles
even instant noodles is taiwanese (Chinese) and not from japan

why could the nips not make a satisfactory cuisine?

>> No.16700839

about 45% of japs have ace i\i version of the gene, which makes for better glucose metabolism, slow twitch fibers etc, that's why carbs are less of a problem for them.

>> No.16700851

>>16699457
their infrastructure usually isn't a hostile hellscape that forces it's citizens to take a car anywhere to survive

>> No.16700997

>>16699643
Yeah, it seems like they have though. For the vast majority of history getting more sugar from starches was probably a good thing. Only in the last few hundred years did people start living long enough for diabetes to be a serious risk to your health. Before that you probably died in a war or fighting a tiger or some shit, situations where higher blood sugar would be advantageous.

>> No.16701013

Who the fuck wants to be skinny when the average westerner can snap an asian in half? With the exception of mongols who eat nothing but meat and dairy.

>> No.16701046

>>16701013
Remember when the only Asians talked about was Japan and the internet was nice? Now you have all these irrelevant insecure kinds of Asians stirring shit up all the time because I guess it's not fair Japan is the only one who makes cool shit.

>> No.16701194

>>16701046
China was ok before they got too cocky, also you gotta love Singapore and Malaysia for the food. But yeah Japan is the most civilised Asian country

>> No.16701202

>>16699457
They burn it off at sweatshops and labour camps.

>> No.16701400

>>16699704
>>16700706
Wait, I thought all asians were supposed to be skinny. You're making excuses now that just because there's more of them in one country, it's okay for them to have the most number of obese children and 2nd highest number of obese adults? That makes no sense with what OP is implying. If asians really are some super powered fat resistant people then they wouldn't be getting fat regardless of how many there are. Also you ignored Malaysia and Brazil facts from that post, cherrypicking because it destroys your narrative. Also, even if a someone eats rice and they don't get fat, it doesn't mean rice isn't fattening. Many athletes love junk food and they stay fit, doesn't mean that junk food isn't fattening. There are many other factors at play, it doesn't change the fact that rice is fattening.

>> No.16701496

>>16699457
because bullying fatties is legal in asia

>> No.16702202 [DELETED] 

>>16701496
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

>> No.16702402

>>16701400
Why are putting so much effort in responding to a troll thread?

>> No.16702421

>>16702402
>reply to pasta
your retard

>> No.16702588 [DELETED] 

ITT Changs getting BTFO again

Losers online and irl kek

>> No.16702661

>>16701046
Not only you're a retarder schizophrenic weeb but you talk like a redditor as well.

>> No.16702666
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16702666

>>16701013
Nobody wants to be a lardass, that's for sure.

>> No.16702718

>>16699457
>Dressing on rice
stop

>> No.16702750

>>16699606
>food is fattening because if you eat too much of it, you get fat
Woah, hot take there, Karen

>> No.16702769

>>16699457
Rice isn’t fattening.
Overeating is fattening.
In any case there’s plenty of fat gooks around.

>> No.16702811

>>16700731
I think that's only the Japanese. Chinese and SEA people like to serve massive portions. The Chinese assault you with food.

>> No.16702826

>>16702769
I feel clean and light after eating rice. I feel like the people who came up with this are the ones who keep perpetuating this meme that eating fruit will get you fat. Which is bolocks.

>> No.16704622

>>16702811
why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?
the main staple dish of nipponland is sushi which is literally just fish on rice
their curry is just watered soup
ramen is just inferior version of authentic Chinese noodles
even instant noodles is taiwanese (Chinese) and not from japan

why could the nips not make a satisfactory cuisine?

>> No.16704676

>>16699457
Carbs only make you fat if you don't exercise. Asia is mostly 3rd world ppl doing lots of manual labor.

>> No.16704723

>>16702826
>I feel
Well there's your problem

>> No.16704831

>no one has posted it yet

>> No.16706024

>>16704676
>Carbs only make you fat if you're insulin resistant.
Exercise can improve insulin sensitivity.

>> No.16706196

>>16699658
You have a good point
Blacks would see the fat basically melt off

>> No.16706451

Rice isn't fattening, people are just retarded. For the same weight, bread is twice as bad. And "potatoes", which most fatties eat as fries, are twice as bad again. Chips? Those are twice as bad as fries.

The reality is that western staple foods are just so much worse for us than rice is, just in terms of basic calories. You can fill up on rice much easier, and with sensible portions controlled by the standardised size of a rice bowl, it's harder to over-eat.

One of the biggest problems with the west is just the complete lack of understanding of portion size. People buy big plates and load them up with high calorie foods, nobody weighs anything out.

>> No.16706482

>>16704622
Jap curry is indeed horrible. You have to be a complete weeb to like it.

>> No.16706505

>>16706482
I like it, but I also have never had indian curry before. Actually, which country has the best curry?

>> No.16706515

>>16706482
Katsu curry is a tasty dish, but Japanese curry is definitely the worst type of curry overall

>> No.16706519

>>16706505
I like thai curries the best.

>> No.16706672

>>16700728
>>16700721
angry chinaman

>> No.16706874

Law of Thermodynamics and CICO.

>> No.16706887

>>16706874
NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, FAT PEOPLE ARE PERPETUAL MOTION ENGINES AND- Huff- wait a second, let me catch my breath, maybe eat some snickers for my blood sugar...

>> No.16707210

>what is portion size
>what is walking miles daily
>what is not eating processed and fried food in a regular diet