/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16593186
There is no point in using raw milk ever. Only retarded mouth breathers think there are health benefits to it.

>>16593186
never seen raw milk for sale

>>16593200
It seems pretty self-evident that heating something up to far above boiling temperature would remove much of the nutrients and enzymes.
>>16593213
Its not legal everywhere, and even where it's legal it isnt in every store. Can often be found in health or organic food stores though.

>muh good bacteria
Eat yogurt and organic produce.

>muh enzymes
Who gives a shit about muh milk enzymes?

>>16593217
>It seems pretty self-evident that heating something up to far above boiling temperature would remove much of the nutrients and enzymes.
Pasteurisation doesn't heat milk up to "far above boiling temperature"

Are you really that desperate for nutrients and enzymes that you need to squeeze them from everything you eat and drink?

>>16593200
idk I think using raw milk for cooking definitely produces a higher quality product. I made farmers cheese with both raw and pasturized milk and the raw milk made creamier curds and a richer whey.
I wish we could sell raw milk the way we sell raw eggs and meat. Just be like 'this is for cooking" or some shit.

>>16593243
I havent said anything implying Im obsessed with or constantly drinking raw milk, youre just irrationally angry at the idea of somebody drinking non-pasteurized milk.

>>16593261
Describe these precious enzymes and nutrients you require from raw milk.

>>16593255
If you cook raw milk it is no longer raw milk by definition. The reason it came out creamier is likely because raw milk isn't standardized in the same way pasteurized milk is so your raw milk was likely a higher fat content then the pasteurized stuff.

>>16593217
>It seems pretty self-evident that heating something up to far above boiling temperature would remove much of the nutrients and enzymes.
>removes nutrients
you are one of the mouthbreathing retards I was talking about in my first post, imagine my surprise

>>16593361
Yeah I know raw milk thats cooked is no longer raw. But that doesn't change the fact that I think we should be able to buy raw milk the same way we buy raw eggs and meat.

>>16593361
He's obviously at the cusp of malnutrition and needs to squeeze every nanogram of 'nutrients and enzymes' out of his milk

>>16593374
People can buy raw eggs and meat because typically they're not retarded enough to eat them raw.
Whereas milk is a beverage that is meant to be drank without any sort of preparation.
The reason it was made illegal is because it makes people sick and dying and there is no scientific basis for not pasteurizing it.
Maybe it should be made legal for person-to-person sale so retarded mouthbreathers have one more easy exit from this world

>>16593398
IGBTWNSITM

>>16593375
kek. Gonna be more problems when he goes into renal failure due to the bacteria his "ultra high nutrient" raw milk

>>16593398
People eat raw eggs and meat all the time.
Also you can cook with milk. Back before the explosion of the sale of cheese and yogurt, you would make it at home. In fact, raw milk can easily be made into yogurt. There is a product called clabber which is popular in the south which is just raw milk that sours and thickens with time. Unlike pasturized milk which becomes totally inedible once it expires.

I believe what really contributed to banning the sale of raw milk had to do with the swill dairy scandal of the 1850s. Cows that were raised like shit even compared to the worst modern factory farm were producing nasty milk, and the milk would be adulterated with nasty shit like plaster of Paris to make it white and rotten eggs to thicken it. It killed 8000 infants. People got freaked out by bad milk. And then tons of dairy laws were passed, including the requirement of pasteurization.

>>16593455
>In fact, raw milk can easily be made into yogurt
Which is milk that has been heated to sterilize it
>here is a product called clabber which is popular in the south which is just raw milk that sours and thickens with time
Which is fermentation, which is encouraging good bacteria to kill off the bad bacteria
You say you enjoy raw milk, yet keep posting about things which are not raw milk

>>16593467
You don't cook clabber.

>>16593479
No, it's a fermented product though, which is something humans have been doing for literally 10s of thousands of years to preserve food and make it safe.
It accomplishes the same goal of pasteurization, which is killing off the bad bacteria

>>16593261
You didn't answer the question.

>>16593489
well Ive also drank raw milk and I didn't die. So idk what to say. You seem to support my argument that raw milk should be sold in stores, you can just add the label that it needs to be cooked like they do with raw eggs and meat.

>>16593489
Ive also had raw cream. Its deliciously sweet and thick and makes incredible butter/buttermilk.

>>16593904
>raw milk should be sold in stores
it shouldn't. It should be able to be sold between two private individuals though
and
>well Ive also drank raw milk and I didn't die
N=1 is not a notable statistic at all

>>16593200
Cheese, retard.

>>16593398
>Whereas milk is a beverage that is meant to be drank without any sort of preparation.
Maybe to Americans, I never drink it straight

>>16593912
why shouldn't it be sold in stores when other things that are dangerous to consume raw like eggs and meat are sold in stores?

>>16593186
just get it straight from the tap m8

>>16594147
>Whereas milk is a beverage that is meant to be drank without any sort of preparation.

>>16594210
just call it fucking cooking milk

>>16593186
Amazing that our society is so homogenized that people dont know what to do with fucking milk

>>16593186
I like raw milk because it kills off a lotta hick trash.
just like eating red meat for every meal

>>16595208
IGBTWNSITM

>>16593217
>Can often be found in health or organic food stores though
>raw milk
now that's how you find a cute young blonde bimbo at 19 who wants nothing more than a big sweaty, hairy, grown ass dude to fuck her raw literally every single morning and night with enough leftovers for ovulation. i cannot imagine being from Kentucky and going to a health food store in California and buying every last crate of raw milk they have,just staring into the cute clerk's eyes and imaging how my car's doing in the heat.

>>16593186
raw milk is usually high quality so it's good for cooking, but you lose all the good stuff. however there is something to be said for freshly pasteurized milk with high quality base (which you are doing by cookign raw milk) vs just using shitty milk pasteurized long ago. idk exactly how but when you cook raw milk the spirit of the freshness is still in there somehow. so yes it's worth cooking with but obviously the health benefits will basically be gone. it will be better because the milk is higher quality, but also it will have some unknown spiritual aspect that is just better and you know it's better even though you just pasteurized it

>>16596604
>fresher things are more fresh
What an astounding discovery

>There is no point in using raw milk ever. Only retarded mouth breathers think there are health benefits to it.

>>16597145
Are you my batshit fundie antivaxer cousin? This looks like the kind of thing he'd secretly post while pretending not to know what 4chan is.

The Jew fears the raw milk kefir chad

>>16597148
>Are you my batshit fundie antivaxer cousin? This looks like the kind of thing he'd secretly post while pretending not to know what 4chan is.

Raw milk suppliers get lab tested all the time. People whoa are anti raw milk are anti science and pro superstition.

>ha imagine believing raw milk is good for you

>>16597149
Should I read into the fact that you're self-inserting as a farm animal being bred for slaughter?

>>16597166
I mean that could be a heifer

>>16597153
Or they just prefer greater safety margins and milk that stays fresh longer. Have fun getting sick because the stockchimp took forever to get it in the cooler.

>>16597300
I can get it from the farm whenever I want city monkey, cry more

>>16597315
>trusting some meth addict farmer
Enjoy your listeria.

>>16597315
Nobody is jealous of life in your creepy sharia shithole, anon is just saying the taste difference is insignificant compared to just nohomo grass fed milk, and when you get listeria nobody is going to sympathize with your worries about getting morgellons from the 5g antennae

>>16597320
>>16597329
kek seething, it's ok you can help the billionaires stop the planet from blowing up buy buying their nut water, teehee

>>16597315
Please, for the rest of us here. Keep drinking it, and drink as much as you can. Ideally, if by some miracle you have babies, let them drink it as well.

>>16597351
I'm not seething, you're fucking seething. Kill yourself, loser.

>>16597351
Oh no not the almond milk! Better organize another child bride festival, before DA JOOZE put a black man in their uteruses

>>16597353
>>16597359
>>16597360
Why don't you hotheads cool down with a nice glass of raw milk just as nature intended. You can even get straws and drink it through your masks.

>>16597375
All I’m saying is to continue to drink raw milk and especially give it to your offspring, preferably before they’re 4 years old.

>>16597315
>I can get it from the farm whenever I want city monkey, cry more

>>16597375
Sorry, too busy conspiring with the shape shifting reptilians who control the weather to bother with milk. I prefer rainwater mixed with metaliticized salts. It's free, because it's oozing out of our ground!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYZvr3ueGw

>>16597384
>>16597393
>>16597400
>w-we're not mad honestly now take this strawman!
Pic very much related, it makes you seethe

>>16597408
I literally keep telling you to drink it. How am I mad? I am encouraging you to pass this down to any potential children you might have. Are you upset about that??

>I literally keep telling you to drink it. How am I mad? I am encouraging you to pass this down to any potential children you might have. Are you upset about that??

>>16597393
wow an unoccupied house. Thats what people live in.

Meanwhile in the city...

>>16593186
raw milk has a distinct grassy taste to me, which makes it terrible for most cooking, but it could be interesting in savory dishes

>>16597557
>t. Has only ever seen a city on movies or tv
Yikes

>>16597582
I grew up in a city. It sucks.

>there are people who unironically advocate for making food less safe.
wtf you people are the anti-vaxers of food.

>>16597585
What city. You won’t be doxxed if it’s a real city and not a suburb.
If you’re afraid of being doxxed, guess what, not a real city

>>16597639
Just a tiny po dunk city called chicago

>>16597774
What part? Lots of fags like to pretend they’re from Chicago but grew up in Naperville

>>16597788
Didn't grow up in Naperville. I grew up in the city of Chicago, next to the lake, south of Lakeview (except for a short stint where I lived in Ravenswood.) not the Chicagoland area. Chicago sucks. I know that might blow your mind but the city is a cesspool of shit, trash, niggers, faggots, bums, psychotic schitzoids, drunks, and worthless cunts. It's a miracle I didn't get mugged at gunpoint like most people I knew. Out of all the big cities, Chicago is the least disgusting, and it is still disgusting. Fuck cities, I'm glad I left. I save so much more money now that I don't need to spend almost 2 grand a month to live in a fucking one bedroom. If I ever go back to the city, it will be to a farmers market in the northside to sell yuppies tomatoes at 10 bucks per 8 oz and eggs at 8 dollars a dozen. Fuck Chicago, and fuck all cities.

The food sucks too btw. Except the dim sum. That shit is ok.

>>16597960
You're not wrong about chicago sucking, but I'd still rather live there than in the other flyover shitholes

>>16593361
pasteurization doesnt do anything to fat or protein content. its like 160 degrees for 20 seconds

>>16593255
Raw milk still has fat at around 4%. Pasturizing milk doesnt do anything to the fat. You're thinking of milk separation.

If anyone ever has the chance to work in a cheese making facility, do it. It's pretty cool and pretty much all the cheese you can handle

>>16597557
That's basically a jail cell lol.

>>16598092
Flyovers are the best if you have the right land. And land can be pretty cheap if you know where to look. I didn't move here for the people (even though I think they are overall of a higher quality than city people, which is saying something because the stereotypes of flyover folk are mostly true). Its beautiful and serene here, and since its a flyover faggots from coastal cities wont migrate here and ruin it like they are ruining Arizona, Texas, Idaho, and whatever the fuck else they can get their filthy nature/society destroying mits on.

Sure, if you don't cook and only eat what strangers and cooperation's make, the food will be shittier here. But if you actually care about where your food comes from you can get better food here for cheaper.

I would rather be a wandering forest bum with no home and starve/die from the elements or get eaten by a fucking bear than ever go back to the metropolitan hell that is the urban biome.

>>16598156
Except you don't pay 1650 per month to sleep in a jail cell. At least I don't think you do. Maybe in NYC jails, lol.

>>16593200
>There is no point in using raw milk ever. Only retarded mouth breathers think there are health benefits to it.

>>16598178
duck anon shut the fuck up, you are insufferable.
all your posts are just you sperging out about vegans/vegetarians and city dwellers.
you continually push for ideas which basically boil down to you wanting everyone in the world to flee the cities, become quasi homesteaders like you and have individual food sovereignty.
it's especially retarded because you believe this is attainable. No need to mention that when 80%+ of humans lived like that our global population was well below 1 billion people.
good fucking luck getting 6.1 billion people to do that now with, especially considering the arable land globally would just be barely enough to give each individual person _one_ acre.
>but anon one acre is more than enough to grow your own crops for the year
good thing humans are definitely completely evenly distributed across the globe to make this happen.
And don't forget about how insanely fucking inefficient it is for individuals to grow their own food vs modern farming practices. And I'm not even talking about giant ag mega corp farming, even modern sustainable agriculture is vastly more efficient than individuals growing their own shit
80% of the global population 200+ years ago weren't farmers because it was fun, or for their own independence, it was because they literally had no other choice. They were dirt poor, died often, and life was all around fucking brutal. You larping homesteaders love to pretend that you're just like our ancestors, growing your dainty little hobby crops and raising a few animals. The only thing you have in common with them is that you're poor.
But those ancestors of yours would literally kill you to have the modern luxuries you have at your disposal.

>>16599332

And those modern luxuries _would not exist_ had we as a species never moved away from being predominantly agro-based to industrial.
We have moved literally billions of people out of poverty with industrialization and cities
So keep pretending like cities are the scourge of the earth as you sit in your house built from materials, posting from your phone/computer, using electricity, etc that all could only exist with modern manufacturing and the ability people have to not spend their whole fucking day farming just to survive.
You exist in a time when you get the choice to live your life the way you see fit, 99% of humans throughout history never got this choice. And this choice only exists for you because of the post-agriculture world that you hate so much. So please, shut the fuck up already.

>>16593200
Only one good source of it

i've had raw milk from a few different dairy farms and it always have faint shit taste/smell to me...is that normal? because if it is...raw milk fucking sucks

>>16599392
Raw milk typically does contain higher fecal matter counts. It's usually why people seek it out, they're scat fetishists. They like to pretend they're not so watch at they vehemently deny this

>>16599380