/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Probably needs more ketchup

>>16541928
Steak is delicious. You just are fat and have never really been hungry.

Of course I never pay much for a steak since it all comes either from my cow share or as gifts from relatives. I like the primal simplicity that comes from a nice piece of muscle meat.

>>16541935
I wouldn't eat a steak with a sauce like that, but steak is massively improved with sauces, it's true. Steak diane or steak with a peppercorn or mushroom sauce is much better than plain boring steak.

>>16541928
You aren't cooking it right
Marinate it with a pineapple based marinade and thinly slice across the grain after taking it out, guarantee you will enjoy it much more.

>I like the primal simplicity that comes from a nice piece of muscle meat.

>>16541928
So it's true that there are women on this board.

>>16541949
I've had 'good' steak before. It's alright. I worked in the industry for a while and people liked the steaks I had to cook. I just didn't see the appeal. If steak were less retardedly expensive I'd still prefer to eat a burrito with cheap ingredients.

>>16541928
Why can’t you simply not buy something you don’t like, as a normal person would?
Why do you have to screech about it in hopes of validation from internet randos like some girl on Twitter?

>>16541965
I'm not screeching. I just want to talk about steak. It's okay if you like it.

>>16541972
Holy shit, calm the fuck down. It's a popular food, you hysterical bitch.

>>16541928
> expensive as fuck
How poor are you?

>>16541928
Same. I honestly don't see the appeal of steak. People claim I've just "never had a good steak" but I've literally tried their good steaks and it just tastes like meat.

>>16541946
agreed, steak diane is delicious

>>16541928
shut up fat

>>16541928
>I don't 'get' steak
Get off this board, we are anti soy/vegan cuck shit

>>16542367
No, YOU get out chud. I'm sick and tired of you stormtards!

>>16542367
I'm not vegan or soy.

>>16542367
And when has OP mentiones something vegan? Damn people is living in your head rent free

>>16542363
How did you know?

>And when has OP mentiones something vegan? Damn people is living in your head rent free

I like steak because it's extremely low effort for what you're getting out of it.
salt pepper sear the bitch put it in an oven if she's thick and done.

Lmao the fag is already angry, relax kid the imaginary people cant bother you with their diets

Yeah, it's pretty boring, it tastes like biting your cheek. A steak is okay for a few bites, but then it's just monotony for people that enjoy the sensation of large amounts of meat going down their throat.

>>16542486
You can't just come back and agree with yourself while pretending to be a different person.

>>16541928
Meatballs are more tasty

>>16542486
>it tastes like biting your cheek.
Are you buying your steaks at the dollar store?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gbUulwMxvM

>>16542655
i love ja/ck/

>>16541928
>It's expensive as fuck
Only if you want it to be. My go-go is a NY strip, usually around $7, which I prepare in a simple manner. Usually with a side of asparagus or Brussels sprouts, always with a fuckload of garlic in the butter. Steak's definitely overrated and often has a lot of weird and/or expensive shit done to it with diminishing returns but it can be a perfectly fine normal food.

get it as a reliable option in any nice restaurant but wouldn't buy and cook it myself as I don't even really like beef that much other than mince

it never disappoints but honestly has never overwhelmed me either

>>16541928
That's why ribeye sandwiches exist...

>>16541928
>the texture isn't anything special, and the flavor is good but also singular and unsophisticated
Try cooking it well done, you'll thank me later

>>16541928
Girlled chicken or a burger tastes better than steak, don't give a shit what a bunch of wine tasting faggots have to say

I never got steak either. That was until I tried a reverse sear and basting with butter and rosemary.

>the texture isn’t anything special
What? That’s the best part along with the flavour. Nothing is juicy and savoury like a well cooked pink steak. There isn’t anything that comes close to the juiciness and satisfying chew with a great steak. The flavour compliments this texture perfectly and so you really don’t need any sauce or flavours that will sit on top of the steak’s flavour. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but there really is no substitute for the texture of a steak

Why asparagus with steak

>>16541928
I like steak but most of the time I'd rather have a good burger or beef stew instead. My favorite is any kind of tougher cut that's cooked slowly until the fat is nice and soft.

>>16541928
You eat the steak with other stuff. Same thing.

>>16541961
Yes and a lot of them. They make the baking threads which are objectively the best threads this board ever gets. Please, sir, do not project OPs utter dicknozzling faggotry with those innocent anons. They do not deserve such a projection.

>>16541928
I turn it into jerky

>>16543798
Asparagus is tasty

>>16543798
Asparagus grilled and then melt some butter on it and a dash of black pepper, its wonderful with steak.

>>16541928
Spoken like a retard that's only ever gotten his steak from restaurants and never eaten a good homemade one

>>16541928
>It would taste better in a sandwich or a stir fry or burger or something.
This NOT being true is why people rave about steak
The flavor profile is not bland and singular, you just can't taste it that's why you think adding other random stuff makes it taste better it's the only way you can get a complex taste

Other people naturally taste a complex flavor from steak that is usually only masked by other ingredients

>>16541928
I used tin snips to amputate the side of a stolen Walmart cart and laid it like a grille over a square of stacked cinderblocks in the backyard. By far the best cooking method I've ever tried, just make sure the scrap pallet wood youre using still has the nails embedded in the boards so you get that cool green flame and unbeatable iron taste.

>>16541928
I eat a rare ribeye or strip steak 2-4 times per week seasoned with just salt. I used to use other spices and sauces but with salt it is the best. Its not unsophisticated btw, properly prepared steak is a culinary cornerstone. It also has excellent macros and is healthier than a burrito or curry.

ITT: fat fucks who have been garbage food by their garbage families and who are so sated they've never had the primal carnivore appeal of a slightly salted semi raw piece of protein.

Once I started fasting I started day dreaming of flank steaks and the biting into the pockets of white fatty parts of the steak.

this is bait and you are a specialnigger spoompkins.

>>16541928
>I don't 'get' steak.
that's because you're a faggot

There's nothing to "get". Steak is delicious. And you're probably one of those people that complains it's "too expensive", and then goes and spends $35 for a door dash order of Chic-fil-A.

I didn't "get" steak when I thought filet mignon was the good stuff. I finally got it when I had my first bone-in ribeye.

>>16541928
>I don't 'get' steak. It's expensive as fuck, the texture isn't anything special, and the flavor is good but also singular and unsophisticated. I don't understand why a hunk of meat with salt and pepper is considered some kind of gourmet experience. It would taste better in a sandwich or a stir fry or burger or something. I'm not saying I hate steak, but I'd prefer to eat most other foods. There's nothing deluxe about it except the cost. It's boring. A cheap stir fry, a burrito, a sandwich or a curry would be half the cost and three times the flavor.
>
>Any other /ck/ers who have seen through the scam of steak?

>>16544474
I went on a diet a couple of years ago and ate steak 3-4 times a week while fasting and it was exactly the same. It's a hunk of meat with salt and pepper. It doesn't make me feel like a cool caveman or some gay shit. I wanted to a bánh mì instead.
>Its not unsophisticated btw, properly prepared steak is a culinary cornerstone. It also has excellent macros and is healthier than a burrito or curry.
>Its not unsophisticated btw, properly prepared steak is a culinary cornerstone. It also has excellent macros and is healthier than a burrito or curry.
So does a head of cabbage but people don't pretend it's some kind of gourmet experience to eat one with salt and pepper.
>>16544413
Nobody naturally tastes a grilled steak as complicated. It's one flavor: cooked meat. You can get into the right headspace to appreciate the simplicity of it, but it isn't complicated. It's juicy meat with salt and pepper that's seared on the outside and pink in the middle. You can have almost exactly the same experience eating duck or lamb but people wouldn't pretend a piece of meat on a plate counts as a balanced meal that doesn't need anything else.
>>16544393
I've eaten a lot of steaks, the difference between a good restaurant steak and a good homemade steak is minimal because it's a simple food. At home you're more likely to get a steak cooked in butter and garlic with a herb like rosemary or thyme, but even this is overrated. Steaks don't really suck up the butter while they're cooking, you're mostly just flavoring the outside. It's not like making gnocchi or something. Most of the butter will remain in the pan.

>>16544775
Coffee is just one flavor too. Should I stop liking that? Just don't eat steak anon.

>>16544796
I'm not telling you to stop liking anything.

>>16541928
I agree about the not enjoying steak as much as others seem to, but I'm confused about what you're looking for. Are you wanting people to change your mind or is this a validation thing where you're just looking for likes/(you)s/upvotes/etc?

>>16544800
Then why are you here? What's the point of crying about people enjoying steak when you don't? I don't like wine. Do you see me starting threads telling people that wine isn't worth enjoying because I don't like it? No. I just don't drink wine. I don't worry about why some people will spend hundreds of dollars on it.

>>16541928
It's just a crutch desu
Extremely easy to cook which makes them think they're good cooks
Just look at how you made them seethe by bringing it to light
It's got the same strange egotistical culture that whiskey has lol
>>16541939
>>16541961
>>16542363
>>16542367
>>16544474
>>16544527

>>16541939
>I like the primal simplicity that comes from a nice piece of muscle meat.

Ok, so what do you like about steak aside from LE EBIN CAVEMAN LARP

>>16544833
You're the one crying, you faggot. I just said I don't like steak and you throw a hysterical fit about how I'm "crying." I just want to discuss steak.

>>16544860
No. It just tastes really good, and I like it. You're projecting.

>>16544873
Lol. Definitely not crying. I love steak. What do you want to discuss exactly?

>>16544860
cope. steak is yummy, and healthy. only fags are anti steak

>>16544860
steaks fine but yea the bizarre people who make steak their culture overplay it

>>16544875
Notice who I quoted
Didn't quote everyone who simply said they enjoyed steak, only retards
Which steak seems to attract lol

>>16544775
stay losing

Primal carnivorism is eating the giblets. Steak is the bread and water of the meat world. For people who won't eat pork, don't like game, hate seafood, won't even consider eating heart, and won't jave blood pudding. And you know what? That's fine. Those things aren't for everyone. You're not expected to eat the cartilege at the end of a drumstick, or chew the gristle in a steak, even if some people enjoy it.

But you don't get to act like a Manly Man for eating some beef you cut out of a vaccum-sealed pack, or some steroidal chicken that's giving you bigger tits than the soychuggers. I guarantee that half the people in this thread are a B-cup.

>>16544896
Imagine the soy tits on this one.

Can someone post the pic with a steak, whiskey, cigar, and karambit all on one plate please

>>16541928
its the taboo part of it to some

>>16544882
STEAK!!!

>>16541928
>also singular and unsophisticated.
That's why it is usually served with sides.
Still I'd rather eat my steak with mushrooms and onions and a sauce than just salt and pepper.

What are the secrets to cooking a steak at home? Is salt pepper + pan sear + finish in oven all there is to it?

>>16544896
You sound exactly like a nagging wife. You're a woman, aren't you?

>>16541928
You gotta use peppercorn ranch.

You WILL eat the bugs

You never had a nice medium rare prime rib? That’s really damn good. I get angry my stomach is small, I just want to eat the whole thing

>>16542486
youre supposed to have other things on the plate too, just some mashed taters or even garlic green beans, a salad perhaps, roast carrots if you may

>>16541928
There's something very enjoyable about the simplicity of a well-cooked steak on its own. The flavor and texture are both what makes it so good. It's simple but also complex as getting a steak cooked just the way you like does take skill. Getting a nice, slightly crispy sear on the outside while rare/med-rare, not medium and not blue, inside takes some practice.

That being said, I love A1 and dont care that people put sauces on steak. Even after learning how to make it just the way I like it, I still keep some A1 around or make a peppercorn, diane, etc sauce. Particularly if you've got a shittier cut of meat (which you can help with a salt cure too), put whatever sauce you want on it to make it most enjoyable for you.

>>16544775
>It's one flavor: cooked meat
> seared on the outside and pink in the middle
theres two different flavours right there
different cuts have different tastes and textures, not all of which are good for a typical steak

>>16545273
Yeah? Well up your nose with a rubber hose.

Yeah I’m with you. It tastes good for something that requires little prep and effort but in general I’d rather eat something else. I feel like it’s become a symbol of masculinity for some people they love telling others how much they enjoy a boring slab of meat because it boosts their ego

Why do so many steak fans resort to the classic nu-male appeal to primality or brutality?

>>16541961

>>16541928
Anyone who doesn't love steak simply hasn't had a good one in their life. I never had a good steak growing up because my parents didn't know how to pick quality meat or cook it properly, so I thought steak was mediocre. Now I love eating steaks.

>>16544860
Is whiskey extremely easy to cook, too, or is there perhaps legitimate quality that is beyond your ken?

>>16544896
Based and organ-pilled.

>>16541949
So you improved the steak’s flavor with a sauce to eat without a sauce? Sauce pls.

>>16545508
>Is whiskey extremely easy to cook
Yes, hence the Whiskey Rebellion, a reaction to a tax on distilled alcohol so named because whiskey was widely made and consumed. Also steak is in fact easy to cook.

Not him BTW.

>>16541928
I'm a poorfag so I rarely ever have good steak, but a legitimately good steak is absolutely delicious. Keep in mind my idea of a good steak is like a $35 thing from the keg. Most steak I eat is shitty $5 tough cuts cooked at home that takes minutes to chew.

>>16542000
>WHY WON'T YOU FUCKING CALM DOWN LIKE ME?

>>16545508
Based retard

I used to love steak when I was a kid, my parents would always order it for me. Now it just seems bland. If I want to eat a bunch of meat I'm gonna grill the meat on a wood fire.

>>16541928
nice bait, i'm responding

if you're having these paltry, smoothbrained issues with steak you've mentioned, you either a) havent spent enough money a good steak or b) cooked it wrong

>>16544474
>primal carnivore appeal
humans aren't carnivores

>>16546130
That's where you're wrong. I've had expensive steak cooked correctly numerous times. It's not that good. It's better with chimichurri, but that's because chimichurri is good, not steak. Chimichurri with grilled chicken would be close to as good.

>>16541928
I've had filet mignon and it tasted like corned beef. Sirloin was much better

>>16546285

did you cook it yourself? what was it? at a minimum, "good steak" ought be grass fed, or marble score 9+ wagyu

>>16546289
>I've had filet mignon and it tasted like corned beef
What the fuck did they do to it?
>Sirloin was much better
Agreed, it’s more flavorful.
Filet isn’t so much about flavor as it is tenderness. It’s more expensive because a lot of people like it but there’s a lot less of it on a cow.

>>16541928
well marbled, and appropriately aged steak is great - it's what all the pleb posts of "Salt and maybe pepper are all you need," are all about. Cheaper steak is expensive for what it is, and the better the quality gets, the worse the prices get... still worth it from time to time.

>>16546377

this is spot on

>>16541928

As a chinese who is used to eating meat that his heavily disguised by salty and sugary sauces, I've really learned to appreciate the taste of just plain, but high quality, meats and fish. It's like Sushi... the quality of the meat stands out and isn't hidden.

My mom always says they used to stir fried everything with tons of sauce/seasoning to hide the poor quality, not so fresh meat.

>>16541928
>It would taste better in a sandwich
I don't want no sammiches. What the fuck is with all that sammiches?

>>16541928

t. only eaten supermarket steak

Steak is just the most sophisticated and complex food tastelets will eat so it get's overhyped

>>16541928
>It would taste better in a sandwich

>>16546296
There's a pretty big discrepancy between grass fed and marble +9. I haven't had a +9 300g steak that costs $80, but I've had a ton of grass fed steaks, mainly sirloin, ribeye and tenderloin. I've cooked it myself and had it cooked for me. Char-grilled, cast iron skillet with a ton of garlic, butter and thyme, whatever. I've tried every level of doneness because I'm not squeamish. The steak I've enjoyed the most has always been sliced tenderloin in a sandwich.

>>16546414
I don't eat supermarket steak at all. Supermarket steak is fucking terrible and I'd genuinely prefer to eat potatoes or rice or something. It's just that medium range steak (steak that's not like $80) isn't that mindblowing either.

>>16541928
steak is great, but its also over rated. Why it's so popular is an interesting look into food market trends. Steak has huge mind share, and is a status symbol. It's become associated with decadence and masculinity. Any company would pay hundreds of millions for their product to get the public image that steak has.

>>16541961
Probably just some vegan tranny shilling “meat bad.”

>>16546478
You will have a small dick no matter how much steak you eat. You will never be a man.

>>16546458
I've literally never seen a steak advertisement outside of a store. Why would people want to eat so much of something that isn't even being pushed on them every day? Probably because it's delicious.

>>16546593
You completely misunderstood him. Steak doesn't need to be pushed on people because it already has cultural significance.

>>16541928
try having a high quality steak with plenty of marbled fat
sometimes you dont even need salt, just a good sauce like chimichurri because the steak is so tasty

>>16547306
Yes. Because it's delicious. Fast food has cultural significance also. But, they still have to advertise like crazy. Because it's not actually good food. Get it?

>>16544869
very easy to prepare. Just salt, pepper, enough heat to sear the outside and its delicious, nutritious, and satisfying. It's a dream of mine to raise, slaughter, and butcher my own cow. That would be wonderful.

Primal pleasure can come from much more than eating a steak, you can get it from going on a walk in the woods or foraging. It's a nice escape from modern industrial society that seems to just be worsening the mental and physical health of people. I mean, look how many people on here cannot get by without screeching as many buzzwords as they can at one another instead of having a conversation like a normal human behind.

>>16544869
very easy to prepare. Just salt, pepper, enough heat to sear the outside and its delicious, nutritious, and satisfying. It's a dream of mine to raise, slaughter, and butcher my own cow. That would be wonderful.

Primal pleasure can come from much more than eating a steak, you can get it from going on a walk in the woods or foraging. It's a nice escape from modern industrial society that seems to just be worsening the mental and physical health of people. I mean, look how many people on here cannot get by without screeching as many buzzwords as they can at one another instead of having a conversation like a normal human being

>>16547456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxhiffTFwE

>>16547456
>But, they still have to advertise like crazy. Because it's not actually good food. Get it?
I humbly disagree.
Fast food rarely advertises to “remind” you how “good” it is.
Most of the advertising focuses on limited items, new items, special pricing offers, etc. Nobody needs to be reminded that a Big Mac exists, but letting people know they’re half price for a week is worth the advertising budget.
It’s the same reason cheap “steak” chains like outback do the same thing.

Nice steak places don’t have to advertise such deals/offers because their target clientele isn’t going to care about a limited-time $5 off a steak or a free side.

>>16547503
i always figured that as more of a political action committee

>>16541957
>NOOOOO you cant just enjoy simple flavors you have too stirfry and season the fuck out of everything sushi is literally just raw fish yucky REEEEEEEEEE
ok third worlder

>>16547648
There’s nothing “primal” about some fat onionsboy buying a piece of beef from the grocery store

>>16547722
Imagine living somewhere that high-quality grocers/markets don’t exist.
Sad.

>>16541928
i love steak, but i wont buy it at a restaurant. im by no means a professionally trained chef, but i can legit cook a steak better than most of these places charging 38 for a filet 9/10 times, even when i went to a really nice steakhouse last year for xmas and bought a $58 ribeye, i was still certain i had made a better steak at home for like a quarter of the price

>>16547722
its not about being "primal" its about being mature enough to enjoy more subtle and minimalist flavors without them being overshadowed by oyster sauce or some shit

>>16547722
Is there also nothing primal about the primary-flavor forward presentation of a primary ingredient?

>>16547722
go back

people who don't eat steak are faggots

>>16547770
that's why they suck dick they need to get protein from somewhere

>>16547744
Yeah, I can agree with the sentiment about restaurant steak
Most of them just pull some prepackaged marinated shit out of their fridge and grill it
Completely suspect on the quality of the meat if they have to/or can get away with drenching it in shit

>>16541928
You are overcooking your steak.

>>16541957

>>16542379
what's going on in this post

>>16545552
Not a sauce nor about the flavor, you use the pineapple for the enzymes that tenderize the fuck out of the steak and slice thin so each bite is just chewy juicy goodness almost melt-in-your-mouth and you can easily taste the flavor of the steak but mainly your toppings or sauce that you use like a normal human being, like peppercorns, mushrooms, reduction sauce, whatever.

>what's going on in this post

>>16541928
Just had a dry-aged $56 NY strip at a high end resturant (cooked rare of course) and nearly coomed my pants. No regrets.

>>16547545
Right. Because I never hear fast food commercials talking about how big and juicy and tasty their food is. Are you retarded?

>>16548679
that sounds amazing, a great steak makes you coom. i still cannot believe there are people who don't eat steak. fucking faggots.

>>16550210
I get OP's point about just steak-on-a-plate being kinda boring, but if it's a high quality slab of meat and dry-aged, it's extremely enjoyable on its own.

>>16547545
>Nobody needs to be reminded that a Big Mac exists
you say that like there wasnt multiple mig mac promotions in the last year, maybe two

>>16550480
sounds like anon needs to be saweetie-pilled