/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16504702
I love this goofy nigga like you'd never understand

>>16504702
even yunger

>>16504702
What a goofball

Iced americano with cream

Bought it from the liberal hipster shop

Yes, it’s the only way I can vape my nicotine without vomiting from the taste, so I’ve been combining the two this past year

>>16504702
>*ruins the community*

>What ya drinking?
Firenze arpeggio, perfectly brewed
>Where's it from?
It's a blend, mostly costa rica I think.
>You getting any more?
Certainly, I have it set up on auto order from Amazon.

>>16505447
The gay community

>>16504702
I had a cup of coffee at a cafe this morning with breakfast - omelette. After 2 sips I had intestinal pain and 10 minutes later I had to run to the bathroom and excrete. and again 5 minutes after that. An hour later at the grocery store I had to run to the bathroom again, terrible cramps and lots of liquid came out of my nono place.

I will not drink coffee again

>>16504702
Drinking
Cold brewed meme beans
Where from
No idea
Getting more
Maybe, but the price plus shipping for a lb of beans is pretty steep. I might get another bag the next time I drink too much vodka and decide I need some milsurp

>>16505447
Ah yes, I see you've decided to gobble fabiancock.

what if i just made cold brew with twice the grind amount and brewed it for 36 hours.... haha
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16504702
I drink Folgers

>>16505688
cold brew is dogshit either way, so why not?

>>16505780
Just for lulz I made a scuffed osmotic ice filtered brew yesterday. Silky, clear, and none of the cold brew funk.

I want to get into cold brew coffee. What are some cheap things (sub 50 dollars) that would increase the quality/ease of doing so?

>>16506350
a cold brew coffee maker, they cost like $30

>>16506350
if you already have a french press you can use that for cold brew, if not they're around $30 and you can use it for hot coffee and frothing milk as well.

how has his hairline gotten better over time

>>16505519
HI James

>>16505499
Why are you buying coffee and milsurp from the grifter store?

>>16506939
They had a good price on NODs and I was drunk.

>>16506350
Hario mizudashi, but all coldbrew makers will be essentially the same.
>>16506825
I. can. see. how. the. autistic. would. like. fabians. delivery. style.

I found a new tiny coffee company on Twitter and its pretty nice, ya'll ever find anyone companies in the wild online or do you guys mostly just stick with the broad retail distributors and subscription services?

for me, it's folgers simply smooth

>Coffee Time General

>>16504702
Trying Vietnamese coffee beans as a drip.
Probably not getting more; I understand why the traditional Viet coffee drip uses a big dollop of condensed milk now. Haha.

Currently drinking picrel, cold brewerino, it's giant store brand. Their Hawaiian is top tier too. 3 bucks a bag. Not bad.

>>16506350
Get a Toddy cold brew system. Very much worth it.

>>16507643
>soijack.jpg and no (you)s
i feel sorry for you, take one

>made my first v60 brew
>drawdown was very slow
>Coffee came out sour
Wtf? Am I supposed to go finer or courser? It's some honey processed pacamara beans.

>>16507898
Sour usually indicates underextraction, so you want to try finer and/or hotter
pls correct me if i am wrong i know nothing

>>16507159
fabian is a literal npc

>>16507522
There are a bunch of 3rd wave coffee roasters in my town so I just hop between those for good beans
>>16506690
>coffee is good for you
>>16505492
Coffee making you poop is a feature, not a bug

>>16507898
Yeah this >>>16507994
Could be a technique issue as well. Fucking with the bed, either by stirring or swirling can give you a really flat bed, but the trade-off can be a slower drawdown. It can also create channels, meaning some of its over-extracted, and some is under-extracted, which could lead to sourness as well as just a general muddy sort of flavour.

>>16508063
Who's Fabian?

>>16508129
it wasnt just poop. it was stomach pain and gut cramps and a liquid fountain of unending shit several times over the course of a day

>>16507898
How slow?
How hot was your water?
Are you part of the 17% of amerifats that confuses bitterness for sourness?

In an extreme case, what's your water's KH and PH?

Hooo boy. Halfway through my cup and I'm already feeling a stirring in my bowels. Bros, this is gonna be a big one.

>>16509174
Update: I am on the toilet now and poop is coming out. I couldn't wait any longer boys. It hit like a truck this time.

>>16509184
Remember to wipe back to front

>>16509184
based

>>16504702
>luv me some cofee
>simple as

>>16507721
was considering it until I saw how fucking big the thing is. from your photo I thought it would be small and cute

Is coffee good for you?

>>16509738
I'll shill this again. Mizudashi. Super kawaii, fits on a fridge door. I think the 1L version is the same footprint but taller. Heat safe so you can use the carafe under a pourover cone. Plastic mesh filter could be better and seems a little flimsy, but overall I like it. Also the dark brown plastic reminds me of early 90s mcdonalds trays.

anyone got a bialetti brikka? what do you use for the best result? Somehow the best coffee i've made with it was just pre-ground lavazza red with 90ml of water

Coof

What's the /ck/onsensus on vietnamese phin coffee makers? It seems like a pour-over but with light pressure and a longer brew time.
Is it worth getting one even if I already own an Aeropress?

>>16504942
nice crema

I want to get into pour over coffee. Is there anything better than the Hario V60?

Is a general pour over just fine? A french press makes too much for me.

>>16511507
Better? Who knows. I use my origami more than my v60.

>>16507709
>>16511251
Give a try, dude.

>>16511251
There was a guy a while back that would always post phin with moomoo cup. The only thing we really bash is kurieg.

Lads I bought a cafflano kompresso to try to get into espresso and I'm becoming more convinced it doesn't work. It's like an aeropress but they say it makes espresso. I bought what I was told were fresh beans from a local coffeeshop and even bought my own grinder, but no combination of that gets me a good shot. Videos show people using a lot of force and taking around 30 seconds to press it. Mine never have that much resistance despite tamping the everloving shit out of it and I can pull the shot in like seven. The only thing I haven't tried is roasting my own. I've tried pre-infusions, etc. Am I retarded or can you not make good espresso with this thing?

Back from work to christen the new mug

living the rancilio life

>>16512532
Grind finer

>>16512599
I ground my coffee basically to both slightly finer than the grounds from the coffeeshop and then to turkish fine. I think turkish made some difference, but the shot still has absolutely no crema and pulls very fast.

>>16512672
Grind finer then. Sounds like either you aren't grinding very fine, or you have a poor quality grinder. If it still poured very fast at "turkish" then you were still grinding too coarse - it's that simple.

>>16512743
You might be right anon. I turned my grinder up basically as fine as the knob will go and the burrs can still turn. I finally got the press to resist the way I think it should. I produced some cremation, but that could be the beans, their age, the roast, whatever. I think this might finally fucking work. Thanks

>>16512924
Lol some crema. Fucking phone autocorrect.
>phoneposting
Yes yes I know

>>16512924
No problem, glad you got some progress

>>16511507
I would just grab the V60. The difference that a brewer makes in the grand scheme of things is pretty miniscule; you can make excellent coffee with any good brewer. The more important thing when you're getting started is having a good grinder and a gooseneck kettle. Those things will make the biggest impact.

If it matters to you though, I like and use V60s the most because they're cheap, filters are readily available, and they have a quick draw-down time.

Chemex is great for a slightly cleaner taste. It's beautiful on the counter, and the brewer being connected to the carafe makes for less moving parts to keep track of. Finally, it's a superior choice if you're making coffee for several folks. My only gripes are that it's slightly harder to clean, the filters take up a lot of space, and sometimes it's annoying if the filter makes a seal in the spout.

I've heard a lot of great things about the Origami; the innovation of being able to use Kalita and V60 filters is really cool. I also heard that it's hard to keep level on a cup, so it might lead to uneven extraction if you're not paying attention.

>>16504702
>What ya drinking?
American while i wait for my cold brew, brand is either Dieseldorff or La Tranquilidad
>Where's it from?
Both are from Guatemala
>You getting any more?
Absolutely, turns out volcanic soil is not a meme, tastes absolutely incredible but it's really easy to fuck it up

>>16504702
>What ya drinking?
coffee boba tea
>Where's it from?
the taiwanese restaurant down the block
>You getting any more?
yes :)

>>16513160
Thanks, I already got the 1zpresso grinder and was planning on getting a Stagg kettle. I was interested in the chemex, but it looked like a hassle to clean. I'll check out the Origami too

I think flash brew / japanese style iced coffee is bullshit.

How could this:
>x grams of coffee drips into y grams of ice
be different in anyway from this:
>brew x grams of coffee and then add y grams of ice

If anything, the second method should result in less dilution since the coffee has a very brief time to cool slightly before the ice is added.

>>16504702
I like coffee.

i take my coffee BLACK only. the darker the better.

Why is my first cup of coffee good, but my second cup of coffee terrible? This happened whenever I did pour-over or french press. Every fucking time. Even if I measure the water and beans each time, the second cup is always worse. It usually has a sour flavor. What the fuck is this?

>>16512532
>The only thing I haven't tried is roasting my own. I've tried pre-infusions, etc. Am I retarded or can you not make good espresso with this thing?
Roasting your own isn't going to negate getting scammed by a frisbee manufacturer, or a company preying on those who buy shit from frisbee manufacturers. You essentially bought an accessory for your crocs.
>>16513160
> I also heard that it's hard to keep level on a cup
Stop parroting hoffman. Most people buy the resin ring, not the wooden one. Resin has grooves to hold the "folds", wood does not.
>>16513222
>less dilution
You understand you're brewing with less water to account for the ice right? Your total volume will be the same, but you grind finer and brew with less water for the nipice.

>>16513355
Didn't know the resin ring had grooves, looks like I have to check that out. I know the wood ones are smooth all around, which seems like a design flaw that I hope they fix cause it looks beautiful with the wood

>>16513215
sexy as fuck, good luck on your pour over journey

*thunk*

>>16512584
I will reply anon, so you dont feel ignored. Believe in yourself.

>>16513329
It's probably just colder?

>>16514371
I brew each cup separately.

>>16506350
Second getting a good french press. There's a bit of technique to using it. Don't press the plunger all the way down and allow the grounds to settle before pouring (which is a non-factor for cold brew). Also, stir the grounds to ensure they are all soaked before putting it in your fridge.

That's about it. Easiest thing in the world to make.

I am in quarantine hotel and it's the first time I'm finding some use to my aeropress.

>>16513211
How does boba in coffee taste?

>>16515457
Idk, but I want some now.

Does anyone have any coffee book pdfs? I'm looking for the Brian W. Jones ones. Here are some books that I got from this general some time ago.

https://mega.nz/folder/hY4BzaIK#MLt-m_wBvjUDxKtEwWIogw

>>16507709
>Vietnamese coffee
Dogshit for dogshit people. I refuse all Vietnamese, Brazilian, Indonesian and Chik coffee. Garbage coffee that ruins the good name of coffee.

>>16515457
>>16515705
i'm not sure if it's *real* coffee; it was "coffee milk tea" that appears to be milk tea with espresso powder

though it doesn't taste too different from iced coffee, so i think boba in some sort of sweet iced coffee drink would taste good

To the anon that recommended Loma La Gloria Honey for espresso, I can confirm that it is a good coffee and that you have good taste

>>16515886
Oh hey I uploaded those to a mediafire months ago huh? It looks like Brian's books are hardback only so no chance at stealing ebooks of them. Fucking rao just got me for $45 on his new roasting book. Figure I can't really bitch after stealing and uploading the first one here. I just ordered a copy of Brew: Better Coffee At Home so if there is anything in particular you want I can get you some pictures soon. In the meantime, you want Shlomo Stern - A Coffee Lovers Guide to Coffee?
>>16516679
Oh hey thats me too. Next time some aeropressing sperg tries to claim I derail threads, you two can back me up.

What's the best hand grinder I can get hold of for traveling?
Needs to be small-ish, using it for V60/Aeropress

>>16517672
Aergrind by Knock, it fits inside the aeropress

>>16516995
No, you still are retarded, sorry bud. And your ROR is trash. AND you like fucking honey processed coffee lol. Get fucked.

is the timemore scale the best cheap coffee scale?

>>16517846
not him but whats your issue with honey processing?

Ideal ratio of grounds to water for cold brew?

>>16517883
He's a salty broke boy. I posted the exact same artisan log once with the ror curve turned off and he was ecstatic.

>>16517914
don't do cold brew

>>16512480
Holy shit that was me and I didn't realize that anyone would remember that. I will post it again for fun but I never use that phin anymore, it was more of a novelty that I got on a whim for $5 from an international store.

>>16517855
I usually avoid t*memore products but a few months ago my scale broke and that was the only halfway decent one that I could quickly get on amazon. I think it was $50-60 and it's fine I guess. I don't really like the feeling of it not having analog buttons though and I am afraid that if someone else finds it they are going to break it thinking that the weighing tray is a lid that comes off. Also the auto timer function is inherently flawed and worthless. It is decent enough as a scale though, it updates quickly and seems to be accurate enough.

>>16517973
No, your curves are always trash sorry kidd0
>>16517883
Generic flavor defects clouding the cup every time. Even clean examples have GENERIC FLAVOR TAINTS. SAME SHIT AS NATURALS, JUST DIALED BACK A BIT. Seriously, honey processing is for mongoloids EXCLUSIVELY. Remember that the guy I replied to is TOO RETARDED to make an aeropress work. A FUCKING TUBE. HE CAN'T MAKE COFFE IN A FUCKING TUBE.

>>16518063
Literally no better than a 15 dollar chink scale. Even acaias are only marginally better. You have to be retarded to buy a fucking lunar.

>>16518066
You can't fuck up immersion brews. And the aeropress is a shitty immersion brewer. Hoffmeme did a fucking 6 part series and still came up with a shitty recipe and he'd rather use his hario switch. Should tell you something.

>>16518072
Again, the broke cannot afford honey(much less black honey) or a decent scale. Thus he lashes out on 4chan for attention. Whats your weekly budget for groceries buddy? It would really help to put this all into perspective.

>>16518072
>being poor
/tea/ is that way >>16509437 retard

>>16518220
I have an ek43, I'm doing fine. I just know better :>

what is acceptable price to pay for coffee beans?

here in Australia the really good filter roasts can cost $80/kilo, or $32/lb

>>16517855
i got a brandless from aliexpress, $15 0.1 gr resolution and it even has a timer, working fine so far.

>>16518324
$80/kg ($20/250g) - or even a little more - is acceptable but only for high quality, well roasted single origin. Roasters like proud mary, seven seeds, market lane will likely all charge around that.

>>16518291
Used.

Does anyone have opinion on LilyDrip? Planning to buy GIO.

What is the best scale if money is not a problem? I have Hario, not good not bad it's just slow, plus is it have batteries (I hate built-in accus)

>>16518586
acaia

>>16518586
Lunar for espresso. Pearl is about 4x the size for big carafes. The big kruve carafe fits fine on a lunar tho.

>>16518630
>>16518605
The add-ons for it looks like overkill, also that built-in accu :(

Ah totally forgot, it's for v60

>>16518632
>looks like overkill
you literally asked for the best scale if money is not a problem

>>16518636
Point taken

>>16518503
>pay more for the same thing
Yup, sounds like someone who buys a "smart"scale

I like my Aeropress but it also feels like a lot of effort for a single cup. It's handy and fun but overkill. What brewing method do you guys use?

>>16505499
Where did you get that?

>>16518761
>I'm doing fine
>shopping on craigslist
Conflicting statements.
>pay more for the same thing
Kek. What else have you gotten secondhand recently? Post some thrift store mugs. Seems like your kind of filth.

>>16518785
if only you could know within seconds of looking it up instead of posting here and solving a captcha for no reason

>>16519086
huh?

>>16519108
>is double retarded
admirable

>>16518782
I like the French Press for being basically effortless. I own a V60 that I use on occasion and a Chemex that basically serves as pretty kitchen decor.

Get on my level, coffee fags.

>>16519148
why is that nasty old man drinking poppers?

>>16519151
>poppers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slobodan_Praljak#Death

>>16519146
Cheers, I'll give them a look. Are they easier than Moka Pots?

>>16519168
The only two coffee brewing methods, easier than french press are coffee machines and just pouring hot water on coffee in a mug.

>>16519472
What's the functional difference between a french press and an Aeropress? Looking at it the functionality seems almost identical.

>>16519498
they're both retarded as fuck but the aeropress is slightly less retarded. get a v60 and a cheap scale and call it a day

>>16515457
Isn't boba chewy topioca balls?

>get a phin
>get a v60
>get a moka pot
>get a flair classic

Moka pot is by far the best. Quick, easy, best taste.
Why would I not get a bunch of them for different occasions?

>>16519768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_BWkx20hE

>>16519498
aeropress is paper filtered so it removes coffee oils. It also keeps fines out of the cup but if you pour slowly with the french press that shouldn't be an issue
>>16519695
It seems like you just like paper filtered coffee better, nothing against that, just realize it's a preference and there's no need to insult people over it

>>16519498
Nothing other than the paper filter. You can't generate enough pressure to actually affect the coffee. You're essentially brewing at a significantly lower pressure than most people preinfuse their espresso shots at.

>>16520760
So what do you use?

Why does it taste drastically different if I drink it with a spoon compared to sipping it from a cup

16519900
kek

>>16520835
75% of the time I'm pulling espresso shots. Origami for pourover and a hario coldbrew pitcher just in case.

>>16520862
Aeration. Thats why people tasting wine or whatever sluuuuuurp.

>>16520943
Even if I slurp it then it still doesn't taste as good as the spoon

>>16520976
Maybe you've got an exceptional spoon. Link it up.

>>16513355
I mean assuming the quantities of ice and water are the same with both methods. Brewing with less water then adding ice should be equivalent to brewing with less water into ice.

>>16521489
>Brewing with less water then adding ice should be equivalent to brewing with less water into ice.
How are you going get the same brew time and extraction % with less water flowing through the bed? You have to up the dose and/or grind finer. If you change a part of the recipe, its a different recipe.

>>16520553
>m-muh aeropiss
pleb

>>16521671
>too retarded to figure out how to use a brewer
>too retarded to think clearly enough to not have irrational hate for a brewer
weeew

What's the best way to make more than one cup at a time? Is there a decent brewing method that can do that?

>>16521815
just joshing ya buddy, drink whatever kind of coffee you like :)

>>16517914
approx 100 grams/liter

>>16521828
v60

>>16521837
uhhhh

>>16521857
uhhhh if only there were 2 larger sizes that can make up to 6 cups

perhaps unrelated but what kind of coasters do you use? the iced coffee beating my ass. i want something hard but absorbant. like thirstystone but not 40$

>>16521857
Retard

>>16521815
>so retarded he traded food stamps for a used ek43 for his aeropiss

>>16522144
>mad he blew all his money on a homo gay scale so he has to grind on a commandante and not big fat flat burrs

>>16522144
>>16522334
I think you two could be great friends if you ever got past your differences.

>>16522334
>just picked out the color for my key moron
>>16522481
Nah he's a massive fgt.

gimi

gimi

>>16523257
>>16523941
Go back to /f1/ you scrub

>>16523955
good morning to you too

>>16511251
Best $5 I've ever spent desu

>>16523963
why?

>>16523962
Gimi is haram

>>16524007

>>16523966
I really like having a simple thing I can fill up and get on with my morning but still gives me flavor profile on par with espresso or a pour over. it's also fun to brew with and show guests when they are over.

>>16516995
Sure, I'll take what I can get. I've gotten lazy lately and want to slide back into experimenting. I'd like to see the Chemex section, please.

>>16524039
I feel like it'd be shite but whatever floats your boat

gimi!

>>16524336
Here you go. That brian jones book should get here this week so I'll get that photo'd and uploaded then.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/40cu500bsc0ng2u/A_Coffee_Lovers_Guide_to_Coffee_-_Shlomo_Stern.pdf/file

>>16524039
>still gives me flavor profile on par with espresso
x_to_doubt.rar

What's a decent, cheap grinder?

>>16526148
Fuck off, poorfag.

>>16526148
Whats your budget?

>>16526006
Good lad

>>16526148
electric: baratza encore
hand: aergrind

The ideal way to drink non-espresso coffee is directly from the vessel it's prepared in (french press, moka pot, drip carafe etc). there is a pouring nozzle on the vessel specifically to ease the deliverance of coffee to mouth, and you have one less dish you need to wash.

>>16526960
Some of the worst recs you could make.

>>16526148
1ZPRESSO JX-PRO

I like my coffee black, IMO if your shit needs cremes or sugars the coffee was shit to begin with.

>>16527205
Occasionally I'll brew up some 92+ single origins and just add a little touch of swiss miss powder. Just to piss people like you off.

>>16518782
Only v60 for me

>>16527205
That's what literally 95% of this general does m8

>tfw too poor for coffee

>V60 is more practical
>but Chemex is gorgeous
conundrum

>>16526179
Why so mean anon

>>16526148
Niche Zero

>>16527410
So get a nice carafe to stick a dripper under?

>/ctg/ won't stop shilling the V60
>check it out
>site looks like this
You guys cannot be serious.

>>16527656
It's a cheap, effective, versatile brewer. Flat bottom drippers are superior, but not but a whole lot.

I've been having coffee with spicy food lately and it tastes nice. Maybe I'm just crazy though.

finally tried nitrogen brew from a local 711 and I enjoyed it. drinking a cup of moka brew generic grind rn. pour over seems tedious for one cup I want to get an espresso and grinder instead.

>>16509919
I might try this since it looks fairly good and is cheap if nothing else. Don't know if you're still here but does it work with tea as well? I was thinking of doing iced tea and I don't see why it wouldn't work for that as well

For me, it's Cafe Bustelo

Imagine being such a retarded newfag that you think people "shill" the V60

>>16527941
iconic

>>16527941

>>16527829
Don't see why it wouldn't. If you don't want to use the built in filter just toss your leaves in the carafe. The lid has little slotted teeth to keep most of the leaves from getting in your cup.

>>16528036
I get half a percent on every $6 piece of plastic I get 4chan to buy.

>>16519900
Sure, why not?
I got one 3-cup for personal use and one 6-cup pot for guests. The only potential problem I see is lack of free space if you are really cramped

>>16528050
Cheers, just bought one.

>>16527205
welcome to adulthood, feel free to join us

>>16527205
So fancy

>>16527656
>>16521857
fucking cringe retard go back and stay there

>>16528215
seethe shill

Which continent does your fave coffee beans?
http://makegoodcoffee.com/south-america
My fave is Peru.

My fellow instant chads what is the best instant coffee? Drinking pic related after buying it for camping and you know what? Ain't that bad. I'll still brew coffee at home but this honestly beats shitty perc folgers in both convenience and flavour for camping.

>>16528304
>>>/tea/

>>16528304
Coffee isn't for you, stick to sodie pop and energy drinks bud

>>16528162
Nice! Report back. I've been doing osmotic jap ice pourovers for the last two weeks, but its nice to have in cold brew as a lazy option. Its heat safe glass so you can toss a v60(seethe) or origami, kalita on top to brew and you've got a nice little carafe to bring to your desk. I use it when I want coffee with a cigar outside.

What's the best kind of bean for iced coffee? Dark, light, medium, or flavored?

>>16531483
Whats the best kind of bean for hot coffee?

>>16531521
>Whats the best kind of bean for hot coffee?
Dark.

>>16531524
So make your iced coffee with a dark roast. and don't buy flavoured coffee lmao

hey coffee autists i have a drip feeder, how do i stop getting watery ass coffee, this shit just starts happening at random and i hate it
other places online say to use more grinds and focus it in the middle but it doesn't always work

>>16531533
Good advice

>>16531483
iced long black/filter/espresso can be truly magical. Highly recommend trying whatever single o you're running over ice. Brings out different flavours to hot, some coffees are far superior cold

>>16529344
>camping
Why not carry a grinder, coffee beans & an aeropress?
https://youtu.be/5fEbbV0UB7Q?t=141

Seriously all instant taste the same to me...

>>16528673
I like african beans sometimes.

>>16513237
me too

>>16523257
>>16523941
excellent posts

>>16527656
They have to sell to normies too anon.

>>16531989
Tbh, I've done it and i probably will do it again at some point but it it's really not worth it for me, especially if you're back country camping or through hiking. I'll do the cowboy coffee every once in a while since I have to carry a pot anyways.

>try V60 for the first time
>tastes incredibly watery and weak, nowhere near the strength of the aeropress
why though

>>16533375
grind finer

>>16533375
>make coffee incorrectly
>it tastes bad
WTF BROS HOW IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME FUCKING V60 SHILLS TRICKED ME THIS IS SO UNFAIR I'M GOING BACK TO MY REDDITPRESS™ AVAILABLE NOW IN THE LINK BELOW USE THE CODE "FAGGOTRETARD" FOR 10% OFF

>>16533394
How much finer do you think I should go? The grind I used was fairly coarse.

>>16533425
take meds weirdo

>>16533436
you should be grinding medium-fine, you want your total brew time to be around 3:30-4 minutes depending on roast level
also use very hot water, just shy of boiling if you have a fancy kettle, or wait 15 seconds after it boils if not

>>16533449
>wait 15 seconds after it boils
Stop spreading disinformation you retarded a*ropress shill, you use 100C water straight off boil if you have beans that are worth a shit

>>16533453
depends on if you're using plastic or ceramic or glass, plastic you usually want slightly less hot water since it doesn't have as much thermal mass
and dark roasts don't like boiling water

>>16533460
Well if you're using dark roasts then you shouldn't even be considering a V60, something like a MrCoffee or m*ka pot would be more the speed of a dark roast drinker

>>16533449
Thanks friend, I'll give it another shot with a finer grind. My water was only around 190 so I'll heat it up a bit higher this time as well.

>>16533453
>>16533463
Friend, could you take your obnoxious German shrieking elsewhere? This is a mature thread for respectable coffee hobbyists. You may find yourself more comfortable on a board like /v/.

>>16533476
>German shrieking
What did he mean by this?

>>16533460
>>16533468
Yeah, hotter water and a finer grind work wonders. Delicious stuff, thanks for the aid mate.

I think it's underestimated

>>16533597
Congrats. You've finally taken off the training wheels.

I only drink one 70ml cup of moka pot brewed coffee every morning.

At what point is it justified to by an espresso maker?

>>16533720
If you have
>tried good espresso and like the texture
>have a giod grinder and are okay with the ~5 minutes prep time of espresso

>>16533733
*good

>>16533733
Moka pot takes me 7-10 min prep time incl. grinding the beans manually and heating water etc.

I hate watery coffee, so I enjoy the espresso texture. And I love crema. At the moment I'm fairly pleased with my mokapot (bialetti brikka) and it does its job well. I don't want one of those big espresso machines and I have no clue if there are any espresso makers around the size of a 2-4 cup bialetti pot

>>16533799
9barista.

>>16533799
Sounds like you'd be very interested in a little-known contraption known as the 9Barista.

Speaking of the 9barista, how soon until there's a 1xpresso version of it?

>>16533817
>>16533819
Looks interesting. How does it compare to a DeLonghi espresso machine?

>>16533819
little known because it'a $385

>>16533848
Delonghis are junk.

For me it's the aeropress, tying my shoes only once and living in San Francisco.

For me it's the aeropress, taking fat dicks, eating hot chips, and lying.

>>16533817
>>16533819
>that price
i think I'll stick to my moka pot and cheap hario ceramic grinder

>>16533875
yeah even with a manual grinder/manual press you're about 350$ away from espresso. if cost is a prohibiting factor, stay away. I've seen some mods for mokapots that should help a bit but they all look janky at best. Maybe worth looking into though

>>16533853
it's not little-known anon, it's sarcasm.

I quit drinking caffeine for about a year and I'm so sick of decaf all tasting the same that I've started drinking regular again but caffeine gives me insane anxiety and a single cup can ruin my day because it puts me so on edge.

Are there any decaf processes that don't darken the bean up so much and remove a lot of the flavor? I've been roasting my own beans lately stovetop in a skillet and even trying to roast decaf as light as possible it doesn't taste as good as a regular light roast.

Pic is one of my regular roasts.

>>16533875
You're missing out.

>>16533891
Cost isn't a factor, it's just that I don't think the return of investment is worth the $300 difference between that and my current setup.

I'm not sure what more I can do to maximize my moka pot and cheap hario ceramic grinder.

>>16533905
I doubt that. I'd like to try it out before purchase if possible.

>>16533909
The difference between that and your current set-up is espresso. Whatever cost you choose to assign to espresso is personal, and in this case, it seems espresso is too expensive for you to justify.

>>16533919
I've had large coffee shop chain espresso, small italian barista espresso, nespresso, hipster barista espresso,

All are expensive
none have really been $300 special.


Maybe remaining blissfully ignorant and happy with basic coffee is enough for me.

>>16533935
And that's fine, you're actually agreeing with me.

>>16533935
>coffee shop chain espresso, small italian barista espresso, nespresso, hipster barista espresso
None of these venues care for dialing in a coffee to your particular taste. They exist to maximize profit from their current inventory. The fact of the matter is most people(like yourself at this point) are happy drinking shitty coffee, so thats what sells. Currently you are wearing clearance irregular mossimo shirts from target, when for a few hundred bucks you could learn to tailor your clothes.

>>16533947
Yeah I know, I'm just airing out my thoughts. I also only use grocery store bought coffee beans.

9barista looks really coming though. The process of making the shot is really appealing. Not sure how difficult it is to perfect.


Assume I buy one, what I else do I need to buy?

>>16533962
Interesting, not coming.

>>16533962
A decent grinder. But once you've got that coffee is basically solved. Toss on an $8 plastic v60 and you can mix it up with pourovers. The guy who posts here who has one says its very easy to dial in just off timing the shot.

>>16533962
A grinder (manual is fine) and a scale. The upside to coffee equipment is that you can get a good chunk of your initial investment back if you decide to part with the gear. But seriously if you only are mildly interested in espresso, autistically tinkering and dialling in shots maybe isn't for you.

>>16533875
Worth the asking price imo. I don't think the asking price is unreasonable, considering the company is basically a start up, the product is relatively niche (not mass-produced) and is expensive to machine/fuse parts together
>>16504942
Is the output from the 9Barista. I get that it's not for everyone - perfectly understandable

>>16533978
>>16533985
I'll try to simulate the process with my mokapot and see if I'm autistic enough or not.

>>16533995
No I totally get that. I just think I'm too casual to actually make good use of it.

I use pic related, in combination with beans that I bought from my local supermarket and I brewed it in my mokapot and I really enjoy the taste and texture better than DeLonghi makers or dripcoffee

>>16534024
I just laugh at the Youtube comments hating on the price - what are they expecting? It's a very solid machine - literally, as it's made of brass. It's my first espresso machine and I couldn't be happier with it. I was looking at the Sage Bambino Plus but reviews are mixed - if a part fails then I'd be out of luck replacing it when the warranty expired. At least with the 9Barista I can buy spare parts to fix it if needed. What works for you is what matters tbqh

>>16533985
I don't know if I'd call changing dose by .5g and turning a dial autistically tinkering. You need to see the shit the EAF discord bozos do.
>>16533996
Not possible to get shots in the same ballpark as the 9bar with a moka. You don't have the pressure. If you could get the pressure that high, you've now got a cheap thin pipe bomb on your stove.

>>16534024
How long does it take to grind a cup with that? I got a Javapresse grinder as a gift and only use it for the first cup or two of a roast because it takes like 5 minutes for a single cup.

>>16534057
It takes a while. I think around 3-5 minutes depending on what I'm doing.

>>16534045
What sort of grinder do I need if I buy a 9barista?

>>16533901
it won't remove the caffeine but americanos have at least less than a standard brew

>>16534098
Depends. If hand grinder, JX Pro is sufficient. Some people say hand grinding for espresso is a pain - I can't comment on it. For electric, G-Iota/DF64 (you might need to align the burrs) or a Niche Zero. Sette 270 but the plastic gearbox isn't ideal. The Eureka line of grinders look good but the adjustment dial looks poorly thought out to me.

>>16534130
>Some people say hand grinding for espresso is a pain
I've done 2-3x 17g shots daily on a kinu for years. Anyone who complains is a little bitch. My wrists elbows and shoulders are in tatters from college tennis years back and its nbd.

>>16534184
It's more the time it takes. Grinding one cup for five minutes is annoying.

>>16534263
Get a better grinder. Javapress/porlex mini/hario slim are fucking junk. 17g at espresso fine takes me about 45 seconds on a kinu.

>>16534263
i grind turkish everyday, 1 minuteish per 15g

>>16534276
Why not buy an electric grinder if you're spending hundreds of dollars?

>>16534048
Don't listen to this guy, just replace the PRV on your moka pot with one that holds to 9 bar. I'm interested to see your results if you go down this path, why fall for the 9barista scam when you can mod what you own? If the pressure gets too high on your moka pot walls you can just monitor for signs of bulging and turn the heat off if you get scared

>>16534310
Bought the kinu years ago as a "good enough" grinder for mainly espresso while I learned. I've just ordered a weber key a few weeks ago so that should get here in ~oct. Preordered for 1650 free shipping no tax. Going to retail for 2k before shipping and tax I believe. The kinu phoenix I have now at $200 punches well above its price. I'll probably sell it for $160ish when the key arrives. Higher end coffee shit tends to hold its value pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQC6WZvt5X0

>>16534327
After reading 8 pages of retards discuss mokapot mods on hb, it seems the most worthwhile addition is a temp prob or thermometer. Please post your kitchen after you make a 135+psi thin aluminum pipe bomb tho.

>>16534310
The electric grinders priced similarly to manual grinders are vastly inferior. If you have arms that work and are on a budget, manual grinders are the only real option.

I hate poorfags

>>16534395
I couldn't imagine being a fully grown man and not being able to drop a couple of hundred bucks on something I'm interested in/would benefit me on a whim.

>>16507643

Everyone likes coffee retard

Coof. Monteblanco purple caturra roasted to 395f.
>>16516679
This is probably the only shit I like more than LLG RBBH.

>>16532590
Cowboy coffee? Is that ground coffee and water in a kettle over a woodfire?

>>16519108
Based
>>16519119
Fucking despicable retard

>>16536163
>calling yourself based
cringe

What's the standard amount for instant coffee? A teaspoon or a tablespoon?

>>16536806
teaspoon, maybe 2

>>16536806
fuck off

>>16535945
Too light

My latest skillet roast

>>16536806
Read the instructions, you baiting redd/int/ fag.

I love coffee. I want to get into it seriously. Where can I learn?

>>16538929
Start here.
>>16515886
>>16526006

>>16504702
this guy looks like my first gf

I have a kitchen scale; is it really necessary for me to buy a coffee scale for pour overs?

>>16539390
Depends on how quick it refreshes.

>>16539398
I hadn't taken the refresh rate into consideration, thanks.

>>16521561
I am saying there is not going to be any noticeable difference between the following two things:

>17g coffee grounds, pour 125g of hot water through it into a bed of 125g of ice
>17g coffee grounds, pour 125g of hot water through it, then add 125g of ice

The japanese/flash gimmick is brewing onto ice and I don't think that makes a difference relative to adding ice after. In both cases you obviously pour less water through the coffee to account for the water you add at the end (ice).

anyone used one of these before? my roommate had one a while back, loved drinking a real dark roast black from it

>>16505492
bubble boy

Any Dutch in here recommend their favorite places to buy beans? Regional / local roasters?
I'm willing to do from one end of the country to the other.

Morning /ck/, time for Kenian drip!

>>16538929
Start with whole coffee beans & a good grinder.

>>16520976
Drink all your coffee out of spoons then

>>16536806
I genuinely don't fucking know. Give me an answer. I'm starting with instant coffee and then I'll expand.

What about filter coffee?

>>16534444
>Based opinion
>Based digits
Good work anon

>>16540175
Basically a moka pot with a spout instead of a pot, I'd expect it to brew exactly the same

>>16542134
>>16540175

I mean given you're brewing directly into your drinking vessel which is not over direct heat it probably helps to reduce the chance of burning your brewed coffee if you aren't diligently watching your brew. It does seem like it would be a bitch to deal with excess mess if you take your cup out too early though. Seems like a solution to a made up problem with moka pots

>>16541173
I try to give a little bit back. Also Brian Jones anon, that book got here today. I'll give it a little thumb through and find some chemex shit for you.
>>16537580
Wanted to test the flair 58s preheat settings. Beans are delicious.