/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I only drink my coffee in a 50/50 ratio to milk

>>16467536
For me, it's 3-4 cups a day.

>>16467536
I forgot /ctg/ REEEEEEE

>>16467536
I'm having a dark roasted Brazilian coffee from the state of Minas Gerais. Light roasted faggots gtfo. I seriously cannot stand your fruity, overly sweet garbage.

been drinking iced lattes out the ass because of the hot weather
would make coldbrew instead but i fell for the manual grinder meme and you have to grind a fuckload

>>16467536
Today I had rum flavoured coffee with some Irish cream and a pinch of brown sugar mixed in and a coconut macaroon on the side

drinking a nice medium roast from my 2013 keurig now lads

Five months without coffee. Have not had headaches, eye or mouth spasms, nosebleeds, liquid shits, or unexplained anxiety, all of which were common in my caffeinated days. Sleep is deep and thoroughly refreshing with no residual grogginess. Vivid and memorable dreams every night.

Is coffee good for you?

I think it's time for my post lunch coffee.

>>16468422
yes

>tfw no espresso machine

>What ya drinking?
aeropress latte's
>Where's it from?
a med/dark bolivian i got from trader joes
>You getting any more?
no, as i want to start trying single origins after i finish this can

hit me with your favorite espresso beans, my local roaster sucks

>>16468574
Loma La Gloria Red Bourbon Black Honey

>>16468422
>>16468426
marriage and babymaking with springfield, right after a nice cappuccino

>>16467536
redpill me on peculators.

>>16468761
Percolators? They're useful if you want to make large amounts of coffee for a group, such as a church congregation or an open mike music event.

I drink the instant shit they have at work. It looks suspiciously dark but who cares, it's free

>>16468786
what if I want to make large amounts of coffee

for ME?

>>16468805
Moccamaster.

Just got a batch of Bolivian Volcan de Tigre. Will be drinking tomorrow. Doesn't sound like something I'd choose but we shall see.

How many grams of coffee are people using per day?

>>16469115
18

>>16468713
ordered it, we'll see how good anon's taste is

I can't start work or talk to anyone unless i've had my coffee. Anyone else like that? Makes me really happy but without it i feel fucking miserable, maybe it's psychological but i don't care works for me.

>>16468112
maybe try v60 iced coffee?

Is Moka Pot good for you?

>>16467536
i got a can of C4 strawberry watermelon ice and mixed with 50/50 with four loko and now i wanna rent a car and drive it into a pool

>>16469517
only good for making cubanos

>>16469520
I remember being 17 fun you times, too bad you were in grade school when four loko had caffeine

Does Turkish grind just mean "as fine as possible"? Can you grind too fine?

>>16469914
yes, no.
if the brew is too bitter you can increase starting water temperature

How does /ck make cold brews?

Coffe makes food go undigested through me

can't drink sadly

>>16470611
1:4 grounds:water for 12 hours, strain, refrigerate, enjoy

>>16470611
in a french press.

hnnng i want one of these. I was just gifted an entry level machine and ive been bit by the espresso bug

>>16468112
Espresso tonic

>>16471231
This versus Gaggia classic pro?

>>16471231
no no no no PLEASE do not buy one of these. I have one and it's extremely subpar you can do a lot better. Get a gaggia, there are so many resources/mods for them you will have much better results. The grinder on this thing is fucking shite, complete waste. You'd be much better off purchasing a different machine and a better grinder separately. If you wanna make mediocre lattes its fine but every single origin I've put through it has been a complete waste. I drink v60 90% of the time now and this thing just gathers dust

>>16467536
I'm drinking day-old folgers and it's making me shit

I have kidney problems (lost one to nephroiss) so I talk to my docs often. I asked him about coffee and and he said as longs as your drinking plenty of water it's good. The main concerns are coffee can dehydrate the fuck out of you and you might have issues with adrenaline. But they haven't found much evidence to the latter.

>>16467536
Ballsed up my timing on a coffee order and will have a one day gap between running out and the new stuff arriving. Local roasters near me are shit so I might have to resort to whatever the fuck backup beans I have in my freezer. rip

>>16471325
i'll take a look at this one, looks good

>>16471390
thank you for the warning, i haven't done much research yet. still learning a lot about espresso, it might be a while until i take the next step. might be looking into getting a good grinder next.

>>16468508
As long as you enjoy it anon, it's not shitty

>>16471438
makes sense, I get headaches after drinking coffee and forgetting to drink enough water. doesn't help that i lift heavy in the morning so i need more water already

>>16469207
You're in for a treat.
>>16471438
Thx for the update boss.

Sippng on a 3:1 of my ethiopian chelchele. Super fucking complex taste today. Light but nearly overwhelming. Very very fruity, almost grapefruity. Might take a video in a bit.

what's a burr grinder i can buy that won't make me look like a pretentious git

>>16471746
You're grinding you're own coffe beans. Embrace it.

>>16467536
Coffee is a meme beverage.
People my age (early-to-mid twenties) drink it religiously because they're desperate to be seen as "real adults". Then they eventually get addicted, and actually require it just to wake up properly in the morning.
The smoker and the drunkard will frequently fantasize about have the willpower to stop smoking and drinking, but the thought of quitting coffee never even crosses the coffee drinker's mind.

>>16471793
>People my age (early-to-mid twenties) drink it religiously because they're desperate to be seen as "real adults"
whereas you're content to be seen as a child forever, no doubt

>>16471793
Bro just drink it, it's not hard. "Enlightened" zoomers who can't handle acquiring a taste for something and look down on those who can are so cringe. Keep looking like a retard with your sugar free energy drink you bitch-made faggot. "Why would I drink something that I find disgusting?" Fuck off

>>16469468
Don't talk to me
>until I've had my coffee

>>16471860
>Bro just drink it, it's not hard.
Neither is not drinking it?
> sugar free energy drink
Water, a balanced diet and a regular sleep schedule, bitch.
> "Why would I drink something that I find disgusting?"
I don't find it disgusting. Sometimes when I'm tired and it isn't bedtime, I try drinking some to see if it will give me more energy, but it doesn't really do anything. Why? Because my tiredness is genuine, rather than a symptom of caffeine withdrawal, and therefore can't be fixed with coffee.
Please continue coping, substance abuser.

>>16467536
>follow instructions and put one tsp
>still tastes like ass

What am I doing wrong?

inb4: instant coffee get rekt

>>16469517
I think a Moka pot is a great choice, especially with a cigarette or Cigarillo (My pref)

>>16472317
Instant coffee is made with low-quality coffee, by large. There are exceptions but they're far more expensive than your standard instant coffee.

Be a man, drink real coffee. Most instant tastes like mud to me.

>>16471793
You know I didn't drink coffee till I was 26 and out of college. Caffeine has never really done much to me though, these days I'll make and drink a pot throughout the day just to have something with no extra chem/flavoring. Just a nice black cup of coffee from my vacuum setup or a moka.

>>16472486
Well if you're drinking it for the taste, I don't see anything to take issue with.

I feel like I'm wasting coffee with espresso. It's like a couple sips made with the same amount of beans that could make a full cup. I also haven't been able to taste any of the flavor notes that I can easily taste with a V60. Buyer's regret settling in.

>>16473432
Your either using the wrong beans or your technique is lacking. Look for espresso specific roasts and aim avoid anything too light. As far as technique goes, just keep studying and practicing.

Can someone tell me the appeal of light roasts? Of all the times I've had it, there's next to no flavor. Is it meant for cream and sugar to be added?

>>16473533
Get better beans.

>>16473533
Light roasts are for faggots, children ad wannabe coffee snobs. They associate any sort of bitterness with bad quality. The specialty coffee market, since they want to seem so sophisticated when compared to shitty grocery store coffee, purposely roast their coffee as to have the least amount of bitterness possible, creating a product that is either overly sweet and/or with no body at all.

>>16473547
The first time I had a light roast, I was furious I actually paid good money for a cup of hot brown water. I normally make the darkest roasts I can find. I'm a fan of a rich robust flavor along with a natural bitterness of the beans.

>>16473575
Yeah, I love single note coffees too. That's how I know I'm a man.

>>16473432
Whats your setup? Machine, grinder, and workflow. Knowing nothing and barring you trying to extract shitty beans, you probably need to grind finer and/or get a better grinder.
>>16473575
Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.

>>16473619
I'm Guyanese and live in the midwest

>>16472317
try to make it with 200 ml maximum or if you have something to weigh it the total of coffee with coffee sugar water milk to add up to 200 grams

ie sugar coffee water 140 grams and milk 60

>>16473533
>>16473536
>>16473547
It depends entirely on the bean. I've roasted some light that are wonderful but if you take them too dark they just taste awful. It didn't bring out any more flavor except dirt and char. I love a strong dark roast most of the time but once in a while I find a good light roast bean.

>>16473681
This is my favorite roasting company. My old coffee shop used to micro brew it. It was stunning because I didn't realize coffee could taste that complex. Good stuff.

>>16473640
Ah yes, the one country in SA who speaks english as a national language. Born there, or just clinging to the idea?

>>16473533
Light roasts give more flavor from the bean than from the roast alone. Medium is a good mix of the two, and dark roasts are almost all just the roast and none of the bean. I've had some really great light roasts and some hot brown water, so it seriously depends on the quality of the bean. All this being said I prefer a medium roast.

>>16472317
>put one tsp
Triple that
I add more than that and instant coffee tastes pretty okay.

>>16473755
Born in USA. Been to Guyana a few times. It's hot and I never want to sleep with mosquito netting ever again. My family still owns a bunch of land there from my peoples indentured Servitude deal. Maybe I'll retire there and live like a king.

>>16473792
Sounds about white.

>>16467536
I always hear people talking shit about Americans and our "Watered down coffee". They hate Americano and they hate brewed coffee. Do Euros literally only drink straight espresso?

>>16474001
Not euros as a whole, mostly Italians and people who larp as Italians.
Filtered coffee will always be the superior choice.

>>16474010
I just drink Folgers from a French Press because I'm not a snob. I just hate people who want to act all superior just because of a personal preference or just pure convenience.

>>16474001
You'd be surprised how popular instant coffee is the further east you get.

>>16467536
I drink 3-4 cups a day of Keurig Folgers. tastes like ass but I still drink it black. why you ask? because I'm a man, not a little pussy ass bitch

>>16473681
I also partake of the roasting. You are correct. Every single coffee must be approached differently and empirically test roasted at different levels. Some are delicious, but different at a wide range; some only taste nice in a narrow range.

>>16467536
>>What ya drinking?
Americano
>>Where's it from?
Isanya and Kateshi Estates, Northern Zambia
1300-1650 m.a.s.l.
Honey Process
>>You getting any more?
probably not, definitely an interesting coffee. Tastes very 'spiced', like a savory hot apple cider without the sweetness
I like fruitier coffee or more traditional roasty, chocolatey coffee, but I'm happy I tried it!

>>16474406
>not a little pussy ass bitch

Mmm cofef mmm

>>16471390
>>16471231
The grinder is subpar but I think the Breville without the grinder is perfectly fine for espresso.

Hoffman's new video is peak autism

In my quest to collect all the coffee preparation apparata I've got my first espresso-like maker, the cafflano kompresso. Not knowing that much about making espresso at home the $50 price point was attractive. In a rush I bought some Illy bold roast espresso grounds and followed the instructions with the maker, but when I actually press the coffee a 60ml shot takes less than 10 seconds to press fully. The videos I've seen suggest it should take more like 50 to 60, and the resulting espresso I get is not very espresso-like. Using their tamper I've tamped the grounds as hard as I could with my hands. I'm letting it pre-infuse, etc. Do I need finer ground coffee? Is there some counter-intuitive trick here, like if I press harder that actually increases the resistance from the coffee?

>>16467536
Guys should i get a flair? Are there any other affordable espresso machines that can make a good espresso? Any advice will be appreciated

>>16476343
Pros: it can make decent espresso and it's not too expensive. At a minimum get the classic, not the neo. The pressure gauge is very is useful though so I'd suggest the signature (or better)

Cons: it can take a while to go through the process to make a shot. It's a bit laborious. If you want to make additional shots realistically I think you would be better off buying multiple baskets for it. If you're using a hand grinder, that also takes additional time.

Overall its a good beginner option if paired with a good grinder. You can get a flair and 1zpresso for £350 and that's all you really need. However, if you don't want to spent 5-10 minutes each time you make a shot then I'd go for something else

>>16476343
I bought my espresso setup by signing up for a chase sapphire preferred card, spending 4k in 3 months on it, then using the 100k points to buy a rancilio silva. I guess depends on how much money you spend a month on whether or not you'd be able to qualify, but I do this any time I want something expensive but can't justify dropping the money on it

>>16476343
Yeah. I've had an upgraded signature that I just replaced with a flair58. What do you need to know?

>>16476343
No, the workflow is a disaster.

>>16476781
Exactly what the sped kids think about tying their shoes.

>>16476789
Cope

>>16476794
I press two buttons. Takes a real big puss to complain about holding a hot cylinder for 2 seconds. Wasn't an issue at all for the years I had a signature.

>>16476833
Right, you learned to cope with a terrible workflow. Misery loves company.

>>16469517
Anyone else see a dog head in the thumbnail

>>16476869
At no point did I feel like crying on 4chan about it. Large diff. Hows the delonghi?

I don’t like coffee because I don’t like people like you who make it your personality. It’s frankly embarrassing to be such a bland uninspired person and I don’t want to be associated with you all. Be better.

>>16476883
This is a coffee thread. That other guy posted his drum set recently though.

>>16476882
The guy asked for opinions, not everyone has to agree with you.

>>16468372
solid blog

>>16476908
Yes, and I'm dissecting your opinion to show how dumb it of a take it is. How long would it take you to wake up, shower, get dressed, and go to a cafe for a double? Thats the workflow to compare against. No espresso vs espresso in ~7 minutes in your kitchen while you've still got a little morning wood. He's not asking about "upgrading" to a flair signature from a slayer or linea mini.
>God I want an espresso but POURING WATER is just too fucking unbearable

>>16476927
I missed the part where he said he goes to cafes every morning for espresso. I also didn't realize you only need to take a shower and get dressed if you want to go to a cafe.

>>16476927
Perfectly reasonable to compare it to (for example) an equivalently priced automatic machine. There are other options than Flair or coffee shop.

The Flair workflow isn't great. There's no getting around it. There's more to it than most espresso options. To some it won't be a problem though. But it's reasonable to point it out.

>>16476941
If he's looking for
> affordable espresso machines
he is currently espressoless. To acquire espresso, he would have to travel to a machine. Noone said anything about going daily.
>I also didn't realize you only need to take a shower and get dressed if you want to go to a cafe.
Be considerate you sweaty fuck.
>>16476950
>equivalently priced automatic machine
Refurb signatures with the pressure kit included are $210 right now. Show me a comparable machine that'll make better espresso. Toss on a chinkshit grinder and 3lbs of coffee from any top tier roaster, you're still under 5 bills.

>>16476983
Yeah I think the flair is a good weekend toy but not ideal as a daily driver. I still ended up making regular coffee on weekdays most of the time until I got a semi auto machine. The 58 seems a lot less annoying though

>>16473619
>>16473514
im using quality fresh beans ($20 for a 12oz bag). kinu grinder with a flair. all the numbers are where theyre supposed to be. been using 16g in and about 35g out in ~50 seconds. and there isnt any noticeable channeling. im at a lost

>>16477046
I was pulling 2-3 17g doubles daily with a kinu for years until I picked up the first 58 batch. Deleting several hundred graphs off the SEP app is way more painful than actually making the espresso and preheating. But I'll concede I may just be built different because I do weird shit like string tennis racquets too.

>>16477110
I was pulling 17g in like 28-34 with that old kinu+signature setup. Same ratio, slightly over 2:1. I'm not sure if that would technically be a "turbo shot" with the basket diameter or whatever, but just try it. Don't get locked into ratios or numbers on your grinder, just experiment.

https://strivefortone.com/2020/09/19/low-pressure-turbo-shots-and-the-perfect-espresso/

>>16477116
the 50 seconds included a 10 second pre infusion so extraction has been more like 40 seconds. but thanks i'll try out a lower pressure shot

opinions

>>16477775
garbage, a grinder that can't do turkish is no grinder at all

>>16477775
perfectly fine for non-espresso, although the OXO conical burr outclasses it and is cheaper imo

Ordered a macchiato the other day at some random cafe because they gave me a voucher for a free coffee when I finished shopping at the fancy grocers' next door.

The woman asked me if I wanted it 'long'. I asked what she meant. She said she meant to ask if I wanted extra milk in it.

Am I ignorant or is the woman retarded? Doesn't 'long' usually mean extra water? How is it still a macchiato if it has extra water or extra milk? Isn't the ratio definitive?

>>16477831
>he drinks muzzpig turk shit instead of strong powerful GREEK chad brew

>>16476877
Yes

What is the best electric grinder for v60 exclusively?

>>16476789
>still ties shoes instead of using objectively superior velcro
ishygddt

>>16477953
see
>>16477859

>>16477953
Best? EG1 or one of the monolith variations probably. ~$3500.

anons, i'm just starting to get into regularly drinking coffee. are all of them supposed to be acidic? does sourness mean the thing is shit? what types should i look for instead?

>>16478114
light roasts have more acidity, acidity is not the same thing as sourness, acidity is good, sourness is bad

>>16478116
so i'm supposed to buy dark roast? i want black coffee that's more chocolatey.

>>16478134
if you want chocolate then yes dark roast is the way to go, however, shit dark roast will just taste burnt, so the most important thing is to get good beans from your local roaster

>>16478142
thanks. have a cat.

>>16478134
I'd say you're looking at a medium-dark brazilian if you want some real chocolate.

>>16478134
you are supposed to buy green and roast, it is not hard nor expensive.

This stuff is great

>>16467536
Am I a retard for wanting to buy this? I'm looking to transition off canned coffee and drink coffee less frequently.

>>16478425
Yes. Get a proper pour-over method.

>>16478425
Nah, its cool. I have the sparkly red one. Just follow Hoffman's advice when using it.

>>16473547
You're entitled to your own tastes and there are merits to all roast levels, but you come across as a dickhead with an inferiority complex when you assert what is generally considered to be low-brow tastes as superior while deriding enthusiasts as snobs.
>creating a product that is either overly sweet and/or with no body at all.
Sweetness is rarely a powerful trait in black coffee, and I find it usually shows up in more balanced cups like when I roast medium or even medium-dark. Light roasts can be sweet, but usually it's faint and overpowered by the acidity light roasts are known for. Furthermore body is more a factor of the bean's growth and brew method than how it was roasted.

>>16474015
>I just drink Folgers from a French Press because I'm not a snob.
> I just hate people who want to act all superior just because of a personal preference or just pure convenience.
Isn't that exactly what you're doing?

>>16478506
Pour over tastes shit

>>16468155
>rum flavored coffee
I keep meaning to try out more stuff with this combo but there’s a narrow window where I want coffee and alcohol. I’d be interested to see how Jamaican Rum pairs with different beans, and I have a bottle of chocolate bitters that seems like it’d pair well.

Just had a cup made using the v60. First cup from a new batch of coffee and it was really good. Great balance and body.

I'm never sure if I should just stick at that point or keep searching to see if the coffee could be better by changing dose or grind though.

I bought a bag of grocery store beans since I was in a new area and haven't gotten to go to the roasters. Most offensive thing was that it said they were best by March of next year. So this is the taste of drinking coffee purely for a caffeine injection....

Is frothed milk fun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFFJ-NLjNZY
Steps
1. Heat milk to 60 degrees Celsius 3:48
2. Transfer to french press
3. Pump big 3x 4:04
4. Pump 10x for 11sets and within every 3sets swirl 4:35

>>16476343
>>16478425
Go for it!

its that time of day again my bros

is coffee good for you?

>>16479054
>I'm never sure if I should just stick at that point or keep searching
what do you lose? 15g of coffee, 5 minutes and you might have to drink a slightly worse cup? and if you tinker in the right way, you learn something about coffee and your preferences? cmon bra

>>16467536
Dunkin Donuts original blend and heavy crea,. Fight me, faggot.

It used to hardly affect me in any way but I've been having this thing lately where when I'm beginning to fall asleep my entire mind and body go into a sudden nose dive, feels like every part of my being is dying in a quick two second dive and it forces me to jolt myself out of it and become fully awake again or else I'll literally die. I had a cup of coffee at around 8:30 last night and it was worse than it's ever been, took forever to fall asleep. Will I stop drinking coffee? Hell no. Will I stop drinking it later in the day? Begrudgingly.

i want him to hold me and call me his good girl

The cheapest one from Asda. Rich roasted, black, no sugar. I've had Nespresso and the one from Costa before and they're not as good. Also had an organic one made from beans for free at work one time, and while it's pretty good, it's not worth the price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYIYFXIUyUE

So, is this a good cup of coffee?

>>16476343
I've had the signature for about 2 years, and I use it daily. The only part of my workflow that changed was getting rid of my hand grinder for a Niche Zero. I'm in no hurry to upgrade and I'm not sure if the OE1 will be worthwhile, but I'm keeping on eye on it.

>>16480291
no, thats a guy

>>16467536
i don't want to do any research i just want to be spoonfed a good burr grinder for pour over coffee so my wife stops ruining my morning cuppa

>>16481517
how much are you willing to spend?
do you want and electric or hand grinder?

>>16481517
eg-1 with ssp ultra burrs.

>>16481548
hand grinder for aesthetic and also so she doesn't wake me up

willing to spend whatever as long as it is good quality and will last a long time

>>16481625
Hand grinder means no flat burrs. You're looking at an hg-1/hg-2/used helor stance manual. You could order this right now, or wait for craiglyn to restock an hg1.

https://weberworkshops.com/products/hg-2

>>16471793
Coffee's never made me feel more awake for some reason. I do drink a lot it in order to take a shit faster tho

>>16468488
9barista absolute chad
if that is your one in the pic, how long have you had it and hows it been

>>16471231
I would love this machine but thats because i dont have the espresso obsession, if you want to really get into espresso like really really into it then stay away from all the sage/breville stuff

>>16468508
wrong

>>16479103
shes a qt

>>16482644
It's mine yeah. Had it since January. There were a few teething issues, but once I figured out how everything works, it's been fine. It's pretty easy to get ~35 grams output (I use 18 grams of beans typically).

>>16482765
Have you tried any ristretto ratios? I wonder if it chokes or anything with the slightly finer grind

>>16482813
I haven't recently - the machine isn't designed for this. When I first got the machine, I wasn't tightening the portafilter enough and got ~20 grams output. It wasn't immediately obvious that the portafilter can be screwed in much tighter. So I suppose you can get something ristretto-like, but you will get water spillage on a live flame from the slightly loose portafilter. Going very fine can choke the machine - you'll hear a loud pop.

>>16482832
Good to know, I have been looking to get something for espresso and this is at the top of my list. You have probably saved me a huge mess and some anxiety from that loud pop

>>16473547
you sound like a faggot who just discovered coffee

New cafe opened up near work called Jackie's Coffee. Real nice cappucino.


>>16479103
>>16482663
A steam wand is way faster but a few minutes to get frothy milk with a microwave oven & plunger may be worth the effort... sometimes.

>>16482851
It was a bit of a learning curve for me. Trial and error to start with, finding out what size of gas hob works to provide optimum heat to get coffee flowing within ~4 minutes of putting the machine on the hob. Then there's going in blind with the grind size to get a ~30 second extraction. But now it's almost effortless. The CS team are very helpful if you have questions.

>>16482879
Luckily I have an electric hob, so it's flat and yea dialling in will be a bitch. I think hoffman says what grind size he used for it on a niche so I can use that for reference. But I'm getting the niche in october so I have a while to wait

>>16482899
Grind size varies by bean, and you may need to adjust it as the beans 'age'. On my DF64, sometimes I'm at 19, sometimes 10. If you do get the 9Barista, get a WDT tool or make your own, and get a 53mm funnel to transfer the beans from the dosing cup to the portafilter. And remember, you don't really want the machine to be on the hob for more than ~7 minutes at a time.

I think I've owned this for about half a year now since I bought it with stimmy money. A review I read said it was quiet which is the furthest thing from the truth. Maybe the guy was never in the room while it was grinding. I've quieted it down by putting a towel underneath it but maybe there's a better solution. It grinds just fine though.

>>16467536
Dunkin homebrewed in my coffeepro drip

My wilfa uniform has finally arrived and I made my best aeropress cup yet on the first brew. Didn't think the difference would be that big coming from a timemore c2. Really brought out the sweet flavours of my Ethiopian beans.

Ever since getting an espresso machine regular coffee just tastes watered down and boring to me now. I've ruined myself.

>>16476877
yh

>>16483849
>espresso machine
You're supposed to drink espresso at the caffé, you fucking degenerate.

>>16483970

I live in a small redneck town we dont have cafes

>>16469955
Wouldn’t increased temperature lead to increased extraction, resulting in more bitterness?

Got this a few weeks ago. I’ve been using pre-ground coffee, so my next step is to get a grinder so I can see what the fuss is about when they say ‘it’s all about the grind’

>>16473924
He'll own a plantation there in 40 years selling you the beans you consume, and all you'll be able to say is "white"

>>16471231
People talk shit about this, but I've got one and it treats me very well. Grind is really consistent too, but I also see that as a complaint too, so I don't know if there are different sub-models that they cheaped out on and I got a good one or what.
Thing gets used around 4 to 6 times a day so it gets a lot of mileage.

>>16484170
Imagine getting an espresso machine without a proper grinder first lol

>>16484333
One step at a time

>>16484170
I used one of these for 5 years, and that was with pre ground coffee. Everything tasted the same. The nuances were lost. To be expected using pre ground coffee not ground for espresso though.

That being said, it used to produce acceptable standard espresso. It was better than the Starbucks on uni campus which was my alternative. Not the highest bar to reach but given the cost, it was perfectly acceptable.

If you buy a decent grinder you might find you get some good espresso.

>>16484174
He can't make espresso with a good hand grinder. He's not running shit.
>>16484256
>Grind is really consistent too
You've sieved it, or you're just saying this because its the one grinder you've experienced and you think you can eyeball particle distribution at sub 1000um?

>>16484680
>You've sieved it, or you're just saying this because its the one grinder you've experienced and you think you can eyeball particle distribution at sub 1000um?
I've owned 2 dedicated grinders along side the one built in to this unit, and It gives me grind that gives me a consistent pressure on each use, thats all I care about really.

>>16484696
>dedicated grinders
Name em.

>>16484778
Why? No need for the interrogation anon.

>>16484801
Sounds like a skerton and a porlex.

Just saw a menu item featuring pic related and cold brew coffee. My first thought was "wtf" but maybe it's something one has to try out in order to understand. Has anyone here had this before?

Would you guys trust an all metal Spanish built Espresso Machine for my place? I have about $1000 CAD (about $800 USD), I was thinking of this, a Rancillio Silvia, a Lelat Anna or a Gaggia New Classic but I wouldn't mind spending less money. Also have any of you heard of a La Pavoni Baretto?

>>16485395

The Pavoni Baretto looks pretty legit and its cheaper ($750 CAD so about $600 USD) than a lot of the other Italian espresso machines but I literally can't find anything about it compared to the Silvia and the Gaggia which have been a round in one form or another for a long time and are known for their build quality and dependability

>>16485417

The Lelit Anna seems to be kind of in the middle of the pack in terms of information and what looks like capability, not as popular as the Rancillio Silvia or the Gaggia New classic but it looks like it doesn't have a lot of weaknesses either but, once again not much info on it

Is 1zpresso overhyped or actually good

>>16485494
It is good. The hype exists because you can actually buy one unlike the kinu and comandante.

>>16485342
Never heard of that myself either, sounds nasty though

>>16484817
>>16484778
mad and poor

>>16485494
Ive got the 1zpresso JX Pro. The main appeal was that it goes from french press to espresso (and finer) for a great price. Lots of other hand grinders out there for a third of the cost, but they cant manage espresso. If youre not drinking espresso then you can buy something a lot cheaper or perhaps a

I dont really have anything to compare it to as I have never owned any other decent grinders. Sometimes it suffers from clumping, and static can be an issue. But we are talking very minor.

Overall it seemed like the best option to me.

>>16485526
?

What is the least ethical coffee brand I can buy? Ideally pesticide/fungicide free but gives the worst quality of life for those picking it in their third world country.

>>16485739

Anything Nestle

>>16485739
You're a pod person now. Also starbucks routinely gets caught using slaves.

>>16485764
only Edomites are free right now, and they can't grow shit

my espresso machine is 30 years old and it still works as good as the day i bought it

>>16485739
Edgy Teen (tm)

Sup anons, how viable is roasting your own coffee? I'm into DIY in general and like learning new stuff I guess I don't see why not.

>>16485872
100% viable

https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/

>>16485927
yeah that doesn't seem even close to being worth it when you can just buy a chink roaster for 100$ and have higher capacity.

>>16485872
what's the advantage here? i can understand grinding beans right before using them, but roasting seems so... extra

>>16485979
It's cheaper and you get fresher coffee thats more suited to your prefrences. Also more control for people that enjoy optimization (read autists).
>can buy bulk green beans
>more control over level of roast
>more control over resting the beans
>always have fresh coffee
Coffee is a hobby for some people and for some of those people, roasting your own coffee is a no brainer.

>>16485968
The bulk of your cost is the tc4+ board. You can wire that up to ANYTHING. Want to build a big gas drum? It'll take care of your logging and motors. Want to build a big custom fluid bed? It'll take care of your fans and heater. Snagged a cheap freshroast and don't like the jank controls? Wire up a tc4 to control everything.

>>16485979
I'm looking at 20lbs of a nice guatemalan for ~5.50lb shipped. Do I need to explain further?

>>16486010
Wasting time tinkering with something for no cost benefit for a worse final product isn't really for me but I can see how it'd be fun if you enjoy the process and have the time to build it. Also which guatemalan?

>>16486033
Took me about 15 minutes of soldering to wire up a bluetooth controlled popcorn popper.

>which guatemalan

Region: Lake Atitlan

This region encompasses all of the lands surrounding Lake Atitlan. Coffee is mainly harvested on the side of the Pacific in a region of three volcanic mountains with a high precipitation.
There are five volcanic regions in Guatemala, and the soil of Atitlán is the richest in terms of its organic matter. In fact, ninety percent of Atitlán’s coffee is cultivated on the sides of the volcanoes surrounding the majestic Lake Atitlán. There is 50 mm of rain every month in this region. Most coffee producers in this region will use water from the lake for wet processing. Instead of chemicals, organic matter is often used as a fertilizer. The high altitude (4,000-5,900 feet) results in a low occurrence of pests and diseases. Yet it’s not only the soil that impacts Atitlán’s coffee: winds known as Xocomil influence the region’s microclimates.

Producer: Tinamit Tolinan Cooperative

Tasting Notes:

Clean, honey sweet well balanced cup with hints of cherry/plum and nice chocolate tones.

>>16485764
Proof???

>>16486010
>20lbs of the same coffee

I'm not sure what kind of reduction in weight you get going from green to roasted beans, but that sounds like at least 6 months worth of coffee. Doesn't it get boring drinking the same thing every day?

>>16484170
Grinder first, dude.

>>16485395
>>16485417
>>16485430
I got a ROK GC Espresso Maker cos I like using both hands. Also allows to make coffee in a black-out as long as it's day-time. Haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmz8LM5MgvM

>>16486762
A little bit of latte art.

>>16486762
based all manual island cafe

What's a good budget grinder? I want something relatively cheap and simple, I don't mind a manual hand-grinder, and I want the option to grind fine enough for Turkish Coffee as well as regular coarse grinds suitable for drip/french press/etc.

how do you dial in coffee without having a ton of caffeine?

>>16486762

Holy shit, a manual press! That's fucking hardcore! I've only used semi-autos before!

Coffee as dark as possible sweetened exclusively with blackstrap molasses

I'm never able to finish a bag of fresh beans before they go stale, what do?

>>16486758
I buy 10-20lbs bags throughout the year. Picked 20 of this up earlier this year. I've probably got 60+lbs of various origins kicking around. Pretty nice to roast up whatever you feel like and have it as fresh as you please.

>>16487711
Coldbrew up a big batch before they go stale.

>>16486801
1zpresso jx pro

Coffeebros I am not drinking coffee this weekend

>>16487218
Waste beans or do it over a couple of days

>>16479390
I love coffee with just cream and no sugar.

>>16487750
>$160
What part of "cheap" do you not understand you braindead meme brand shill?

>>16488125
Cheap and turkish don't really go together fren.

>>16488125
xeoleo does turkish grind, but setting are too few to dial in espresso.
threads on the axle are kind off soft so don't go into too dense beans.

>>16476877
moka pup

>>16488125
Cheap is relative poorfag.

What is the absolute endgame espresso setup? Weber EG-1 + Decent?

>>16489435
mortar and pestle and a syringe

>>16488125
Get a Hario Slim and enjoy your terrible cup of coffee then you poorfag retard. A grinder is an investment.

>>16487793
It's ok. Intermittent fasting is a good reset.

>>16489435
Good grinder + manual machine + dedicated counter-space.

>>16489435
Yeah. Or a slayer single. Linea mini. VA Eagle one prima. Cremina. Add on any titan and you're probably going to have a good time. I'll let you guys know how the key is in a few months.

https://espressoaf.com/recommendations/titan-grinders.html

>>16484170
Should have gotten a good moka pot. That's not an espresso machine

Why are zoomers so allergic to traditional black coffee? All they drink is lattes with cream and caramel sauce. Thank God for boomers and third wave coffee drinkers.

>>16490114
What is it then?

>>16490563
sugar addiction

>>16469517
hell yeah brother

>>16488125
schizo are so fucking boring and cringe

>>16490563
To bitter and gross.

>>16490563


Solidly Millennial, born in 94', and I like my coffee black, from a Cafétiere with a strong cigarillo, but I also enjoy pour over, Moka Pot and, if i'm out, a double espresso.

Milk is only if the coffee is foul, or you want something slightly more sippable, I like a Flat White.

>>16467570
Why so bitter?

>>16474001
Actually immersion brews are the most popular here so people are used to heavy textures in coffee. When that is all you have been drinking + myb some espresso experience, filter coffees which are more popular in the states feel “watered-down”

i bought a c2 max and now the coffee i make tastes a lot better and the experience of grinding is a lot nicer than the cheap mr coffee grinder i had making a horrible noise in the morning im happy with it

>>16490563
Like alcohol & wine, you got to get used to the caffiene taste before you can taste the other flavors of the coffee. Milk & sugar hides this; so some people never enjoy their coffee black.

>>16490563
they know what happens once you go black.

>>16473533
use hotter water and grind finer
Dark roasts will taste like ass (and strongly so) at most grind settings. Usually people use a coarse grind to underextract to reduce the bitterness. Which is retarded, because why buy a dark roast if you don't want the same smokey, charred, bitter nonsense as the last time you had a dark roast?

Many flavorful compounds develop and then change and are destroyed during roasting. A light roast aims to avoid the destruction part, and to reduce the amount of darker maillard compounds. This leads to greater variation, more complexity, less bitterness, and a flavor profile closer to what we've evolved to prefer.

>>16473575
>natural bitterness of the beans
But it's not "natural" it's literally a generic product of over roasting.

>micro brew it
Jesus christ, shut up

>>16477775
way over priced
get a bodum bistro or save up for something worth the money

A cup of coffee in the morning with latte art keeps me going until noon lunch.

How do you add cinnamon to instant coffee (no milk)? Do you mix it with the sugar or do you add it on top after the coffee is made?

>>16495131
Try it both ways and decide for yourself?

I tried making Turkish coffee for the first time yesterday. I've never had Turkish coffee elsewhere so I have nothing to compare it too. I think it ended up tasting fine in any case.

>>16479054
I recommend pushing your grind finer until either drawdown stalls or it becomes over extracted. You might find the that the taste develops a bit better. Once you know where you CAN brew, decide where you want to brew. Coarser grinds are generally a waste of time in a V60 simply because you can't get them to extract properly. Insulated french press and long brew times are what I would do if you want to go coarser

>>16467536
I want to put a countertop espresso machine on my wedding registry. Any recommendations? I'd like it to be sub 350 USD

Also this is what I drink almost daily.

>>16470611
French press. 12 hours, sometimes a bit more. Not very fine grind.

I'm kinda new to cold brew. What do people recommend to get more fruity flavors? Do you go for milder roast or dark roast? What should I be looking for? Any recommendations?

>>16470611
pour over iced coffee > french piss cold "brew", by every metric

>>16496572
I got real stoned lastnight and almost bought a timemore ice dripper.

>>16496510
Do you have a good enough grinder?

>>16496720
Yeah, it's a Mr.Coffee grinder that I've been using for a little over two years now. Grinds everything evenly and effectively. I mostly just want the machine to have a steamer wand and not come from china.

>>16496929
>Mr coffee grinder
>Good enough
Nah, you'll be fighting it constantly if you even manage to get into espresso range

>>16496929
>Mr coffee
Not going to cut it. Not even going to come close.

>>16497208
>>16497511
what do you niggers suggest then

>>16498167
I don't think its going to be available on your walmart.com wedding registry buddy.

Is the timemore c2 a good beginners grinder for pour over and French press?

>>16498230
no, it is a heavily shilled product, there are better alternatives in aliexpress

>>16498230
Better than a porlex/skerton. Worse than most other things.

>>16498261
>>16498304
What are the better alternatives?

>>16498213
So you don't know what you're on about. Okay, faggot.

>>16498335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9OuRl1F3k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eer0QCMRDDs

https://youtu.be/6LGeBcUZ9YA

Whole lotta options. Its not worth spending your money on something you're going to replace right off the bat, so do a little research and save a few bucks back if you have to. Kinu + pourover burrs is an option, 1zpresso has a few under 200, timemores get progressively decent when you get out of the budget (c series). Its something you're probably going to use daily, so make sure you get a grinder you're not going to bitch about.

>>16498400
See.
>>16485735
Gets here in october. I'll let you know how it is.

>>16495406
I like coffee the way I like my women; loooong black.

>>16498407
I feel like I need to upgrade my grinder now. Haha.

>>16469517
My new moka pot mogs the fuck out of my fully modded gaggia classic.

>>16473533
>buy light fresh roast from roaster
>"hints of blueberry, citrus and chocolate"
>"hmmm... sounds good,"
>pull perfect shot
>tastes like tangy piss water and no coffee notes whatsoever
every. single. time

>>16474406
>keurig folgers
>not a pussy ass bitch
lel watch out big boy

Why would you buy pre-roasted beans when you could roast them yourself and determine if you like them best with a light or a dark roast?

>>16499177
Light to medium is the go to for anything not espresso I thought.

>>16467536
who else on that hazelnut wave? the aroma of the bag is like crack to me

remind me to never eat eggs with coffee

>>16500242
because roasting has more going on than just degree of roast. Sure, most commercial roasters aren't very good, but you can buy from the best very easily.

How do I make good coffee from medium roast coffee beans? I got an electric grinder and a filter drip machine (I don't know what they're called). No matter how course or fine it just tastes bland and not nearly strong enough. Increasing the ground amount just makes the taste intensely unenjoyable.

For reasons I only have medium roast and need to go through it to not waste it. Otherwise I'd choose dark and intense every day.

>>16500563
Grind finer. Put hot water into the water tank of the dripper before turning it on.

>mention I've had a few good espressos and I'm wanting to try more kinds of coffee
>next time my kindly boomer parents visit they bring me a keurig for my birthday
>"heh, now you can be a real coffee snob like us, anon!"
I know Keurigs are apparently horrible, but it was a kind gesture so I need recommendations. Are there any gems hidden in those little shitty pods? Should I just buy a reusable pod and buy actual coffee? I want to make an honest try at using this thing as much as possible since it was a gift given with good intentions.

>>16500932
>Are there any gems hidden in those little shitty pods?
Not really but it's still kind of nice if you're feeling lazy and you don't want to do any brewing.

>>16500974
Takes 5 minutes to get a moka pot ready for brewing. I get where you are coming from though

>>16500705
I already pre-heat it like that but you're saying the finest I can get will make most out of it then? It'll basically be finer than sugar at that point. I'll give it a try regardless, thanks.

>>16500316
Got some for my birthday but I'm only really enjoying the smell of it. The taste is really pitiful, not bad but barely coffee.

>>16500932
honestly no
just resell it, keurigs are worse than instant coffee imo

>>16500563
>For reasons I only have medium roast
Oh its you again kek.
>>16499085
Yeah I was happy with my kinu for years. Always planned on getting an hg1($1k) to continue the all manual meme. Then the hg2($1.5k) replaced it and I was pissed for a month. Then they put the key on preorder so I'd pay an extra 150 instead of 600 for the motorized version. Seemed like a no brainer. Hope I can go a decade without wanting something else now.
>>16500316
Check out brazilian maragogipe. Elephant beans. I've got a few lbs of them and roasted med-light they're so sickeningly hazelnutty I won't drink it. If I take the roast way further its straight milk chocolate though.

>>16500932
Toss or sell it. When they ask, say it leaked all over your counter or started smoking and you didn't want to be rude by complaining about a gift.

>>16501098
>Oh its you again kek.

Basically never been in a CT thread in forever, you guys got some kind of meme going with medium roasted beans?

>>16501117
Theres always some bozo with a sob story why he's stuck with medium beans and a shitty setup for a few months. You tell him to get a better grinder or a v60 and he melts.

>I SAID IVE GOT REASONS:'(

>>16467536
I put a scoop of cheap instant coffee in my mouth and flush it down with a couple of glasses of water.

>>16482652
is this manual or spring assisted?

>>16501041
Yup, grind finer until it gets bitter/astringent, then go back a notch. Decent want to begin dialing in. May end up closer to table salt in the end. Mostly it's tough to get a great cup from one of those cheap drippers, as they don't heat enough or distribute water evenly

bump

>>16501411
Would it actually be an upgrade to boil it perhaps? I'm for upgrading but the drip is what I got to work with at the job, and a stovetop.

What household items can I clean my electric grinder with? I've heard rice is too tough unless it's pre-boild/hollow stuff like uncle bens. Otherwise I'll just fold and buy whatever product they make for this specific use.

>>16501449
yeah boil it

>>16501457
just take it apart and brush it off
Grinder cleaning is a meme. Definitely don't grind rice in it. I've manually cleaned grinders quite a few times. Within 1 or 2 grinds it looks exactly the same as it did before.

>>16501242
theres a spring in the group head

>>16478608
holy btfo... braindead tastelet bros... how do we cope....

>>16468155
I want to like sweet alcohol coffee , seems like it should work but it’s just too weird. Not to mention it seems like alcohol and caffeine are so counter intuitive

>>16499177
if it tastes like shit it wasn't the perfect shot. each bean is different, so you have to experiment with variables to balance the flavour. light roasts are harder to extract, you have to grind finer and brew hotter, which yeah runs the risk of fucking them. the whole point of tasting is to dial by flavour. a 28 second shot of 18g of coffee with a 1:2 ratio is not by any means going to suit every bean you brew with.

What's your fave food with coffee?

>>16503941
I like croissant

>>16503941
pan au chocolat is the goat pastry. Raised donuts are a close second.

>>16482813
Update: bought a bag of beans roasted in Italy. Guessed the grind size. Went too fine and got ~20 grams out. An accidental ristretto. Would make again.

>>16503941
Feel like a pleb saying this but I really like donuts with coffee the few times I get them.

>>16503943
based almond croissant chad

>>16504204
The real question is, what kind of donut? Personally I like a good cake or sour cream. Cream filled is also good.
>>16504202
Is it a based arabica robusta mix?
>>16475880
All his videos are. That's why his videos are good. Also I started letting my coffee steep in its auto drip like he showed. Much nicer brews.

>>16504266
I believe so - it's their Blu blend https://www.caffeborbone.it/le-differenze-tra-miscela-arabica-e-robusta/ Their website isn't helpful. I assume 60/40 Arabica to Robusta

>>16504291
Thanks anon. I'll add it to my robusta link collection.

>>16504633
Based collection chad. I need to try more Robusta blends

>>16504641
I know it has D&D marketing, but this I'd the only one state side I know of besides that one other vietnamese brand that gets advertised a lot.
https://geekhousecoffee.com/products/paladin-s-pure-six-bean-espresso

>>16504681
seems based
>tfw brit
;_;

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