/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16399663
Craft beer is based
Mass produced beer is cringe

>>16399663
How are they killing it?

>>16399663
More for me, I guess. Then again, I'm a hipster and try to drink local beers.

>>16399663
Maybe they should try making beer that doesn't taste like rat piss.

>>16399663
I've never had a bottle of heineken or peroni that weren't skunked
what a heinous fucking beer

>>16399669
Whenever I hear craft, I think of old ladies doing arts and crafts. Like you see on QVC, making birthday cards out of old napkins and tin foil.
Beer isn't crafted. It's brewed. In a brewery, by a brewer.

>>16399673
Nice sandals, faggot. Cute cat.

>>16399683
Well there's many "craft" industries, and one could see it as a part of a larger resurgence movement. A large focus on small and local producers formed in the void left behind in the wake of American deindustrializaton. Small piecemeal hipster shit is what we got.

>>16399690
Thanks, lil' buddy.

>>16399663
>Heineken
>Is this good?
It's a shit tier beer, glad it's dying.

>>16399683
>QVC

Huh?

>more expensive
>tastes like shit
I've tried most common euro lagers and pilsners and have been thoroughly unimpressed compared to the price.

>>16399701
Basically, if it says craft on the label I'm not going to buy it.

>>16399683
Notice how those little old ladies only make maybe 20-50 cards at a time? You could almost call that a 'small batch' couldn't you? It's almost like craft refers to things that aren't mass/factory produced. Your local brewery has probably 2-6 stills compared to a place like Heineken that has several hundred.

Heineken?! Fuck that shit!

PABST!
BLUE!
RIBBON!

>>16399671
They drink alcopops and cocktails now.

>>16399663
I like Heineken.

>>16399720
>Excuse me, one Narragansett please.

Haven’t had domestics or foreign equivalents in forever. I just hang out at my local breweries and drink.

>>16399663
Heineken fucking sucks, so I'm okay with it.

I'm 21 and I don't drink alcohol.
I find it degrading and I'm afraid of its potential effects on my psychology.

>>16399738
Alcohol is a wonderful gift. Just don't over due it.

>>16399738
I remember when I was 12. And a girl.

>>16399663

>US beer industry
>Dutch beer

>>16399663
Yes absolutely good
These big macrobreweries are not 'dying' they are just losing their massively dominant market position and small breweries are occupying a niche that companies like Heineken and Anheiser Busch were not filling.
If they want to adapt to changing market demands, they're in the best position to do it too. Use their existing, massive capital infrastructure to start producing a bigger variety of beers, up the quality a bit, sell at lower prices than craft breweries. Their profit margins will probably take a hit but they can absolutely survive.
>>16399729
hi neighbor!
>>16399738
Good, it's very bad for you.
>>16399750
Yeah if that's intentional it's pretty sinister corporate propaganda. I thought at least Heineken had a large brewing facility in the US but from cursory websearching I don't see a single one.

>>16399747
ywnbam tranny freak

>>16399663
>Millenials are Killing the US Beer Industry - Their Next Victim is Heineken
>US Beer Industry
>Heineken

Do they not realize that Heineken is a Dutch beer? Or the fact that you can find Heineken in almost ever bar in SEA and Europe?

>>16399673
>hairless legs
The soy is strong in this one

>>16399821
Nah, I just have blonde hair.

>>16399833
What type of cigar(s)? Nice cat.

>>16399846
One was a local house blend a coworker gave me. The rest are just some cheap stuff I get off of cigarbid.

>>16399833
Cigars. Craft beer. Pet cat.

Yep he's one of them queers that like to pretend he's manly. It's okay, my cousin's husband is the same way.

>>16399863
I also work a blue collar job, go to mass and confession, and don't care what you think. :^)

>>16399833
why are those cigars bbc sized?

>>16399907
They're just toros and the dark one was a robusto.

>>16399673
Does Mr. Cat have his ear tipped? I swear the only time hipsters in my old neighborhood did anything useful, a few popped up to help me trap neuter release feral cats in my backyard in NYC. ONLY TIME, fuckin hicks.

>>16399663
Beer is shit and for fat people.
Liquor is superior.
Go slurp your quadruple hops'd turbo IPA and imagine it makes you a man because you can drink bitter piss. I'll be sipping a scotch neat or enjoying an strong old fashioned. Even a damn Gimlet is bettet than beer BleGh!

>>16399663
Maybe they should spend of their less gazillions on marketing that tells people not to use their product.
Oh and maybe make a good product too.

>>16399917
Yes, it's tipped. He used to be an outdoor cat that his owner was abandoning. So my neighbor got him fixed and all that.

I was on the hook when I needed to amputate his tail and get his teeth pulled, though.

>>16399663
Heineken may imbibe my genitals, it's just another mega-corp flooding the market with subpar garbage.

>>16399679
not possible. hops naturally taste like piss.
but if you leave the hops out, it's not beer, it's just some kind of fermented malt beverage.
Beer was never good

>>16399663
Heineken sucks, so...

>>16399927
Agree.
I prefer bourbon over scotch or rye myself but you are a man of taste

>>16399680
Peroni is way better than heineken btw
at least it doesn't show itself as "dutch beer"

>>16399723
>alcopops
Isn't that for 13yrs old?

>>16399663
alcohol is poison

>>16399663
>millennials do x, y, z and etc.
Literally every time. If the demand for your product is going down, stop creating so much and downsize your company. This is literally nobody else’s problem, and there is absolutely no reason that Americans should feel ‘responsible’ for letting a company go under. Like honestly why the fuck should anyone care?

>>16399701
>>16399718
Are you two fucking retarded? This is like saying an amateur chef doesn’t “cook” his food, no the industries have the market cornered on people who cook with all their canneries and ready-to-eat foods, all of those amateur chefs are actually crafting food for themselves. You see why this is fucking retarded and gay?

This thread is full of cucks and retards

>>16399993
is that why you came here?

>>16399997
No I came to get quints

>>16399683
It's a marketting trick, just like how they try to sell you "artisan" bread or "signature" stuff.

>>16399981
Mentally 13 year olds, yes.

>>16400039
No, I mean literally 13 years old

>>16399663
Heineken was my favorite beer when I first started drinking. Nowadays, I mostly drink Modelo and Pacifico when I want a smooth beer. US Craft beer also competes with Euro imports on price, and is usually better and more interesting.

>>16399863
>>16399701
>>16400034
>flyovers and polniggers whining about shit they don't understand and can't afford
lmao at your life cletus

>>16399671
killing = market refusing to adapt and pruning itself as a result

>>16400130
You referring to the beer or the cat?

>>16399663
Yes, its based. Beer used to be a bastion of white culture. But now its just a way to extract your shekels while making you fat. Just man up an drink hard liquor mixed with fruity artificial flavors. The beer industry deserves to collapse. Yes, im referring to the faggot craft brews as well as the industry giants

>>16400060
Nah, they are alcoholic drinks, but mostly babby's first drink and loved by girls.

>>16400130
Not American, don't browse /pol/. I'm French and your whole gimmick of selling basic bread labelled as "artisan" is pure marketting. Same goes for craft beer, signature shit, or calling your starbucks monkeys coffee artisans and many other things. If you're too retarded to realize that then you've left your brain on the counter for too long because it's now room temp.

>>16399999
huh?

>>16400175
>loved by girls.
If I ever see a girl above 14 drinking alcopops, I would immediately offer her some vodka and/or ignore her existence forever

>>16399663
Heineken is nasty, lightstruck garbage only drank by Asians.

>>16399999
Holy based

>>16400232
If you ever see a girl below the age of 18 you should leave the fucking party you creep

Literally the scum of the earth are 25+ year old adults that try to get into house parties and shit with literal teenagers, absolutely fucking disgusting

>>16399663
I'm all for good beer but "super unique faggotry that explodes in your mouth with overwhelming flavors" competition is gay as fuck

>>16399999
uhhhhh

>>16400278
>seething teenager whose crush got poached by an older dude
I remember that feel anon. If you can't beat em, join em

>>16399663
It's not milkshake flavoured so it's trash

>>16400198
nice larp, have sex.

>>16399663
Why do they do green bottles? It's ALWAYS skunked. I've never had an unskunked heiney.

For me, it is Busch Light and old Nascar videos on Youtube

Beer is disgusting and makes you fat

>>16400302
normies associate skunkiness with exotic imported beer

>>16400297
Tbh I never had that happen to me, and my point is that people who do this are absolute garbage. The only reason you have to hang out with literal fucking teenagers as a mid-20’s adult is because all of the other people your age know you’re a fucking loser.

>>16400278
>If you ever see a girl below the age of 18 you should leave the fucking party
What?
Which "party"? Bars and squares are public places, you know
>Literally the scum of the earth are 25+ year old adults that try to get into house parties
What? "Get into house parties"? Not everyone is american, dude.

>>16399669
>dividing beer into classifications of “based” and “cringe”
You aren’t old enough to drink anyway, Aiden. Or Brayden, Cayden, Hayden, Jayden, or whatever else -den name your millennial single whore mom gave you.

>>16400419
Not him, but
>You aren’t old enough to drink anyway
Imagine being a country with a minimum drinking age, lmao

>>16400423
I’ve yet to be to any country that isn’t an African shithole where a 10yo can get fucked up on liquor.
Even a shithole like Sierra Leone prohibits sale to <18. Pic related.

>>16399673
comfy home

>>16400441
I've had my first drink in primary school, my teacher gave it to me
Western Europe, G8 country

>>16400464
>Western Europe, G8 country
You shouldn’t be ashamed of your home country to the point of not naming it.

>>16399671
Boomers have increased the tax on beer/spirits 73 times in the last 10 years and wonder why people do homebrew or drink $2 a bottle wine now

>>16399738
prepare to be left behind in life.
sure, you'll be healthier, live a bit longer and your mental capacity will be higher for longer but alcohol is a social lubricant.
if you want a promotion, you gotta get drunk with your boss.
if you want to keep friends, you gotta get drunk with them.
if you want to meet randoms, you gotta get drunk at a party.
People are suspicious of soberfags. They cant be trusted.
They whisper among themselves wondering why he's sober.
Is he a fucking mudslime?
Does he have some secret agenda?
Is he keeping something huge secret that he doesnt want to let slip?
Nah cant trust that cunt, dont invite him to anything.

Society and social life literally revolves around alcohol and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>16400477
If you can't guess it at this point, that's probably on you.

>>16399671
Whiteclaws

>>16400508
>“Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards, and which incorporates itself with the grapes to be changed into wine; a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy!”

>>16399990
ok what are you going to call breweries to differentiate them from breweries. for instance the beer you get from a brewery is much different than the beer from a brewery
midwit

>>16400458
Thanks. You're welcome to visit anytime.

>>16400565
So this is what a blue collar job gets you in the usa?

>>16399680
Same for Stella. It always tastes like a bottled fart.

>>16400577
Sometimes

>>16399663
>implying those brands haven’t tried their damndest to bring in the bud light/coors boomer crowd
Regardless the only main beers worth a shit are Yuengling and Guinness, maybe Iron City if you want to larp as a union steel mill employee. Its like complaining about how le melens are killing Harley Davidson even though Harley never gives a shit to actually improve or innovate and just rides off of boomer consoomers.

>>16400599
wtf how is that gun floating?

>>16400618
Freedom

>>16400599
>abita
>rouses
Based swampfag, nice cat btw

>>16400682
I see a jar of hola nola salsa there too

>>16400682
>>16400707
I've been had!

>>16399663
Anyone who actually enjoys beer drinks craft or imports anyway.
Nobody but rednecks actually cares about pisswater.

>>16399723
Not gonna lie, I have fully hopped on the seltzer train. There is nothing more chill than shitting on my porch with a Truly or Vizzy on a hot summer day and watching the world go by.

>>16399663
Tea toddler's

>>16399717
Good for you, champ.

>>16400308
This. Rise up, liquor chads.

>>16399747
Kinda proving his point, right?

>>16399747
Only sissies drink beer. Real men don't drink.

>>16401178
Enjoy your apple tea Abdul.

>>16401186
REAL American patriots don't drink beer. None of that sissy shit. If you don't like it, then LEAVE.

>>16400308
Taylor Swift is disgusting and a whore who sings about being a pump and dump and how she's ridden the Hollywood cock carousel. Kys for posting this harlot.

>>16401209
>>16401186
>>16401178
Real talk, American beer culture was nearly non-existent until germ "men" came and ruined the country. The original colonial drink was apple jack. Fermented apples would be left in barrels during winter and the cold would cause the alcohol to seperate and they would drink that.

White (read Anglo-Saxon Prostestants) drank apple liqour.

>>16400508
Kinda true kinda not.
Maybe its more true whatever uk influenced country you live in but in America people are pretty respectfully of sobriety. If you are really being pushed on it you could just lie and say you are a sober recovering alcoholic, that will stop literally anyone dead from ever pushing alcohol on you.
The downside is, anon is right that alcohol is social lube that you will invariable be around, after work drinking, a friends wedding, etc. and it absolutely blows ass to be around drunk people while sober. Especially if they are wasted.

>>16399999
>>16399997
Aaaand Destroyed.

>>16399997
>>16399999
rekt

>>16399999
IMPOSSIBLE

I believe it.
At 7/11 they took out a whole door of beer in their fridge in favor of hard seltzer

>>16399999
>gets on a slow board
wow u did it friend way 2 go!!!

>>16399999
impressive

It's because zoomer and millenial girls only drink hard seltzer now

>>16399999

>>16399663
Heineken is the beer of choice for asian immigrants. I don't know why but it just is

>>16399673
What's your favorite local beer?

>>16400198
Face it. He blew you the fuck out.

>>16400415
What so non Americans are losers who don't get invited to parties? What the hell are you even talking about?

>>16399673
how many dicks do you take each hour? those legs suggest atleast 2-3

>>16399999

checked

>>16401550
Ghost in the Machine or Parish Pilsner whenever they make it.

>>16399999
Kek

>>16401243
I'm making some mulberry wine.

heinekin is disgusting. can't believe boomers drank that swill.

>>16401316
>>16401373
shit's good

>>16401243
Well, I'm W but certainly not ASP. So I'll drink what I like. :)

>>16399671
Millennials lack disposable income due to being like 1/9th as wealthy as their parents in the same age bracket and therefore are less likely to consume as much as their parents, despite memes to the contrary. The result is that industries based on the idea that Millennials (a larger generation than boomers) would consume more are now shitting the bed.

In addition the entire "population theory of growth" has basically been disproven, since automated machines picking fruits don't need infinite pacos to stand around them for them to work. Likewise you don't need massive lawn mowing companies. There are like 100 million brown people working useless jobs that will cease to exist in 30 years when all the boomers are dead.

The flip side I fear is that an entire new industry will basically be created to cater to boomers in their old age, making society spend 100 years catering to boomers and their whims as they drag us down. Luckily pretty much all other countries are in the same boat except the African ones.

>>16399999
legend

>>16399663
>"X is killing Y"

Actually means:

>"Y is refusing to adapt to the changing demands of X"

>>16399663
All American beer is trash and shouldn't be sold.

>>16399673
comfy

>>16400153
>>16402080
This. Boomer industries keep catering to dying boomers instead of reaching into the millennial market which is full of spenders. Therefore, hipster garbage thrives and traditional products fall. This also hurts the job market because you have seasoned leaders standing their ground in dying businesses while startups struggle so to lack of experience. Now zoomers are catching up and things are gonna get more fucked as everything turns to Facebook/TikTok/Discord tier garbage

>>16402191
>Heineken
>American
Dumb yuropoor

>>16399663
>wages haven't increased in half a century, yet these uppity goyim dare to consume less

>>16399999
impressive

>>16399663
Not buying a product is not the same as "kiling it".
Talk about dishonest journalism.

>>16402272
Trump lost chud, mainstream media is not "fake news".

>>16402356
>mainstream media is not "fake news".
yes it is are you retarded or something?

>>16399663
>Heineken
>going under

Not so long as Asians or Black people exist will they go under.

>>16399999

>>16402356
Stop baiting your fellow /pol/dditors on cooking boards. You just increase their paranoia that “le leftists” are here, in turn making them post more pseudo-political garbage.

>>16402381
You’re retarded for falling for such obvious bait. You post election tourists have absolutely 0 ability to discern troll posts from real ones.

>>16402227
This. Look at motorcycles for an example. A cheap, easier-to-store vehicle sounds like a perfect win for millenials. But the only ones being sold are 25k+ boomer-mobiles made for mid-life crisis, while dealerships actively keep the smaller, city-minded bikes off show floors.

>>16399818
you expecting people who write these articles to do basic research?

>>16400171
>Beer used to be a bastion of white culture
:^/

>>16402673
A motorcycle really isn't as versatile of transportation as non-riders think. It's a toy, first and foremost.

>>16402713
What a dumb take. Look at India and asia. Scooters and low-power bikes are everywhere. They're not as useful as cars yeah, but they cost significantly less and for a zoom-zoom living in a big city they're perfect.

>>16402747
>Look at India and asia.
A bunch of poor people living in squalor and needing the most basic of transportation?

>>16399999

>>16399673
is your cat friendly anon?

>>16399999
good post

>>16403006
Too friendly, at times. He jumps up on people's legs to be pet, like a dog will, and uses them as a scratching post if they don't oblige.

>proof he once had a tail.

>>16400553
Breweries have names you fucking dumb ass.

>>16401975
>Millennials lack disposable income due to being like 1/9th as wealthy as their parents
Don't millennials all carry huge credit card debts though? Buying on credit should allow them to still consume. Perhaps making student loans unavoidable even by bankruptcy was a mistake for the economy since you can have people be crippled by student loan debt and not be able to spend their $ on anything else.

I say this as a computer science major who just bought a home and until this moment had zero debt of any kind. I guess maybe I'm an anecdote that supports the guy I'm replying to because I'm a millennial and I have a near 40% savings rate.

>>16403077
Millennials actually don't carry credit card debts, this is one of the distinguishing features between millennials and their parents. Their parents carry credit card debts, millennials use cash or debit or cryptocurrency. Student loan debts are their primary debt held and cannot be discharged by bankruptcy.

>>16399942
>amputate his tail
>have his teeth pulled
Why?

>>16403077
No, millenials usually don't carry debts, but get nickle-and-dimed by expenses their parents never faced. On average they pay a higher % per paycheck towards just maintaining themselves(rent, food, etc.) than boomers do, mostly because a lot of boomers either inherited some form of money or capitalized on low rents and well-paying jobs early in life letting them purchase housing with stable prices.

>>16403077
>Perhaps making student loans unavoidable even by bankruptcy was a mistake for the economy since you can have people be crippled by student loan debt and not be able to spend their $ on anything else.
what would stop every graduate claiming bankruptcy the second their diploma is in their hand? what would they lose? a laptop and a shitty car vs $100k student loan

>>16403130
Severed nerves in his tail. He couldn't move the whole thing. I think he got hit by a car. He also had a huge lesion next to his butt hole from it. Thankfully he is not incontinent. He also has some dislocated toes in a rear paw from it.

The teeth being pulled was from periodontitis causing a lot of inflammation. It must have been painful for him since he'd drink my iced water gladly.

>>16403134
>what would stop every graduate claiming bankruptcy the second their diploma is in their hand?
They're already defaulting on their loans anon. Something like half of all student loans are in default. It's retarded to expect someone to pay back a loan at such a high interest rate their payments literally don't touch the principal.

For a period of 20 years boomers allowed private companies to give student loans with ridiculous interest fees and got rid of public, lower-interest options. That only got fixed in the late 2010s when they went back to the system Boomers had originally. Are some of those borrowers dumb? Yeah probably, but they were also told there'd be a job market once they got out from school. Despite propaganda not every millenial has a masters in basket weaving, most of them are employable degrees with a small pool of jobs and supressed wages that don't keep with inflation

>>16403132
>>16403108
>Millennials actually don't carry credit card debts, this is one of the distinguishing features between millennials and their parents.
I'll have to start polling my friends to find out how many of us actually carry credit card debt.

>>16403134
would be a stain on their credit score for 7 years
the reality is guaranteed loans for students shouldn't exist if the price is undischargeable debt
get rid of both, student debt is the single largest debt holding in the US at ~2 trillion dollars.

>>16399720
Based Dennis Hopper.

>>16403167
Ask them what their rent-to-income ratio is. Most millenials I know are paying at least 50% of their income for rent, for a shitty apartment. Ask a boomer how much their rent was when they had apartments and it was orders of magnitude less, and they usually rented from private parties rather than some big corporate apartment landlord.

>>16403193
>Most millenials I know are paying at least 50% of their income for rent
I've been paying around 20% for years and have just now cracked 30% now that I've bought a home as far as what % of my income goes towards housing. I was talking to one of my coworkers over lunch with a bunch of other people and she was telling us how she doesn't put anything in retirement because "why would you give away money? I want my money". There is something to be said for socialism when your average citizen is incapable of planning for the future and this young lady is pretty bright despite her comments. I don't think it's fair to expect the government to support you but I also think it's probably bad for everyone to have people who are barely hanging on in their twilight years. I guess America hasn't been a true capitalist country since ever and social security has been around for close to 100 years now.

>>16403213
My company matches pension contributions up to 7.5% of my salary.
It's basically a 7.5% pay rise.

>>16403213
>>16403221
>he thinks he'll get a pension

All of that will be liquidated to pay down pension debts for boomers.

>>16403229
>A company will liquidate a 401(k)
You're a dummy.
Also,
>Implying all of us pay into the sinking ship that is Social Security.

Heineken, Dutch and Anglosaxon companies favor profit margins and merchandise over quality of product.

They'll never be decent, let alone good.

I got bored of beer at 22 and moved to whiskey and never looked back

>>16403141
Good on you for taking him in and taking care of him. I take care of some street kitties and managed to home two that weren't full feral yet. Even the full feral ones can be socialized, they're just a bitch to home

>>16403298
That's basically what he was; a street cat. I kept coming back to feed him every day, as well as two other cats, for a year after I had moved. Then one day he limped on over and is no longer an outdoor cat. :)

>>16399999
Utterly and totally based

>>16403308
>>16403298
Based kitter lovers
This little fuck showed up at my dad’s house, I brought her into my room (I picked her up, she didn’t fight me at all) and has been my little cunt ever since

>>16403274
nice meme glass

>>16403384
thanks, its real crystal and hand blown

>>16399663
I prefer cider. The only time I drink beer is when I'm out and spirits are not available

>>16403316
Love her chair.

>>16400153
>>16402227
Yep, Boomers love the free market except when it does not work for them

>>16399999
faggot

Zoomers only drink hard seltzers
Beer won't exist in 20 years

>>16400477
i mean there are only four options anon

>>16400198
ok ahmed

>>16403274
>Whisky
At no pricepoint did i ever enjoy raw whisky while i wholeheartedly enjoy the fuck out of Vodka. That being saod i love Rum. Any rum is great. It just sounds tastes and feels right. Also i like to pretend that i am a pirate when i drink it so there is the added bonus there :3
>bored of beer
same desu i go for wone nowadays

I moved from liquor and beers to white claw. Feels less damaging

>>16400523
the claw is the law

>>16401373
and I wont go back to beer. White Claw for me

>>16404390
>>16404993
>>16405003
White claw tastes like ass compared to truly or the 10000 "craft" seltzer brands out there

>>16401224
I'd fuck her non-existant ass

>>16403167
I work in an organisation that offers debt counselling and management services.

Those with credit card and other debts from over-extending are generally not millenials. What we tend to see is established working professionals with a few credit cards and vehicles on finance get into shit when they or their partner end up losing their job or can't work due to illness. With boomers, it's usually the guy has signed everything in both names, dies, and now the wife who was being looked after and knows nothing of managing money is left on the hook.

The younger people using our service are in debt by struggling to make ends meet, through rents and utilities and bad employment and not taking on credit.

Sorry to blogpost.

>market product to demographic
>different demographic doesn't buy it
>make no attempt to change marketing
>"THEY'RE KILLING MY INDUSTRY!"

>>16405559
Capitalist don't want competition. Less money for them.

>>16399999

>>16399993
>>16399997
>>16399999
Based samefagging.
>but the intervals
Just refresh your IP. This guy's an expert. Absolutely based.