/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16295364
My gf beats me when I don’t get the temp right for her puer but I still love her :(
Teas for this feel?

>>16295364
What's the deal with duck shit dan cong? Bruh makes some good shit, but What's up with my guys profanity?

>>16295425
Its to keep people from making counterfeits

Does coffee count as a tea-like infusion?

>>16295756
Wrong plant, buddy.

>>16295762
if you can count herbal tisane as "tea" then you can count coffee bean infusion as "tea"

>>16295771
Neither are real Teas. Tea is made from tea leaves.

>>16295421
straight black coffee

Fuck bros
I think the tea I've been drinking has been what's been staining my teeth so badly
I've been drinking 2 cups of plain Twinings Assam Bold tea each day and every time I'm left with fucked up teeth, back to coffee ig

As I promised in the last thread, I'll try getting back to reviewing

2011 Xi Bang Raw Puerh
6 grams, 160ml, 93 Celsius, 20s + 5. 5 total brews

This is a tea I got for free and drank before but kinda forgot about, the package was left exposed to air but not light, didn't smell bad or show signs of mold, so I threw it in the gaiwan.
The smell before brewing was a vaguely spicy smell, kinda like how old bay smells, with hints of coca-cola like smells. Somewhat pleasant.
The wash smelled kinda like sour grapes, maybe like a raisen cookie.
First brew became very mushoom-y, prompting me to check for mold, which I didn't find. Sadly, throughout all 5 infusions, it remained very much like mushroom broth, maybe with too much bay leaf thrown in. To be expected from a tea I left out, I suppose, but pretty disappointed. This may be the reason I forgot about it in the first place. I wish I had more to say but it's so incrdibly flat and one note I can't go into subtle nuances, and it didn't seem to really evolve.
I do think mushroom flavor is okay, but it's not the best, especially for a 10, almost 11, year old raw. I overall got to rate it as bad just for the age alone, but if this was a newer tea, it's probably middl of the pack, not bad but not great either.

>>16295872
whats the fuss about puer anyway? seems more like a health craze with a dung taste.

see
>>16295421
this bitch probably drinks puer hoping she would stay young

>>16295935
Imo ripe puerh is the meme and raw puerh is the patrician's choice.

>>16295935
>whats the fuss about puer anyway? seems more like a health craze with a dung taste.
Chinese people are superstitious af, but the practical reason is it keeps really well for long times, so back in the day when it took 2 months to go from Dali to North China it was the ideal tea for that.
Some people just like the funk, like the tibettans. Ripe is a meme, it's just a type of Hei Cha thats supposed to mimmic old af raw puerh. But even though it's a meme, sometimes it's really good.
I have mostly puerh just because I don't want to worry about losing flavor in a year, but even then, a third is fu brick and the rest is loose leaf.
I'll probably drink a black after I cleanse my pallet with some wine and ramen

>>16295946
>>16296022
All the ripe pu'er I've tasted tastes samey as hell, it's just a mellow musty flavor and a little bit of sweetness. I try heicha, it all tastes different and amazing. Fu brick is ebin.

what's noticeably green green tea that isn't matcha

>>16296108
Yeah I probably am not buying more raw, I hav a tuo and a cake but the rest is ripe, which I find just better than raw.
I kinda stocked up hard on cakes because I thought I would be moving to the middle east and it's really hard to get tea there, but the UAE has gone into oerdrive with covid (need a PCR every 3 days with or without vax, $8,000 fine for no mask, temp checks everywhere, need official app to go to the store, ect.) and it doesn't sound pleasant so I stayed home

>>16296133
Long Jing

my FL order

>>16296529
fresh sheng with those prices
samples

yeah you're baka alright sempai

>>16295935
People where trying to push it as a health thing at some point, i drink it because it tastes good. The problem with puer is there is lots of very shitty tasting puer on the market, and very frequently when someone wants to try it they end up drinking the nasty shitty stuff and then thinking all puer is gross.

>>16296539
i guess you are what you drink

>>16296529
FL?

>>16296549
farmer leaf

>>16296558
Oh cool, he has way more tea for sale than he used to.

>>16296706
I think he focuses more on sheng nowadays. A few years back he sold more black and shou afair.

>>16295935
lurk moar

>>16295364
I'm thinking about making some sun tea with Bigelow southern mint.

>>16299317
ever thought about ending your pathetic life?

>>16299551
Sun tea is goat

>>16296545
You're basically calling yourself severely overpriced. As in whatever impression people may have of you, you're actually not that good, as in worth less than the price. Are you just being extremely self depreciating or just an idiot trying to call himself high quality?

>>16295364
What's the most yang/masculine type of tea? Preferably no caffeine
>>16295421
Simp
>>16299317
>Bigelow
You're a disrespect to the tea community.
>>16296529
Even for a noob me this looks overpriced. Makes me want to start a tea business to sell to betas like you.

>>16299551
Yes, but last time I was brought into a psycward by cops. Not doing that again. Now I totally enjoy living :)
>>16300046
>using good looks leaf in sun tea when bag tea works better for it.
>>16299580
Hello fellow based.

>>16300046
>What's the most yang/masculine type of tea?
Red ginseng, ginger, shiso leaf, black pepper, cardamon, cyanne

>>16300046
>What's the most yang/masculine type of tea?
https://www.eastearthtrade.com/yang-tonifying-herbs.aspx

>only place in my town that sold loose leaf shut down during the pandemic
>live in an apartment where my packages just get left at my door if I'm not there to answer (and more often than not gets stolen)

>>16300694
That sucks anon, got any asian grocery stores nearby?

>>16300694
Can you get packages delivered to a dropoff location? I think those are pretty commonplace nowadays.

>>16300694
Get a UPS mailbox

odds sleep, evens tea

>>16300694
Would it be worth to drive to a far away town for loose leaves?

>>16301483
It depends on how good the loose leaf is
nothing wrong with making due with teabags if that's what youve got

Hey /tea/
I am coming to your thread to ask if there is one specific meme/joke/phrase or whatever that you'd like to represent /tea/ in the /ck/ 4CC roster.
i don't use this thread myself so i thought it would be best practice to ask you guys

>>16302347
>inb4 lesbians

>>16302422
don't you like puer lesbians?

i'll have a cuppa niggers, thanks

>>16302466
>>16302422

Digits confirm, domestically abused puer lesbians are the way to go.

>>16295421
>I don’t get the temp right
you mean boiling water?

>>16295946
>>16296108
you gotta pay to get good ripe. but they do exist

>>16302347
this is a puer and lesbian general

Tried "King of Duck Shit Aroma" Oolong from Yunnan this morning, it's definitely a very excellent tea. Very floral and slightly spicy, I think it would be a good entry point for people to learn what good tea tastes like without any weird flavors. Doesn't quite justify the price point (50 cents/gram) that I paid but it was worth trying.

>>16299996
I was calling myself Baka for buying a tea called Baka.

>>16300046
>Even for a noob me this looks overpriced. Makes me want to start a tea business to sell to betas like you.

You consider it overpriced? 30$ to 60$ for a 357g cake seems rather reasonable to me. Stuff like white2tea seems more expensive to me.
I use them as my daily drinkers for work. I only bought the expensive samples because they're so expensive. Feel free to link me some puer you consider reasonable.

>>16303295
I think the other anons are definitely talking about the shit like 30+ plus for a 20 gram sample. For that amount of money you could get any other kind of tea for a lot more and it would be fucking dynamite. There's no way the single grove pu'er and shit is good enough to command that price, is there? Agreed on white2tea though, they obviously mark their shit up by a lot to make money off dumbasses entranced by their marketing.

There's something exceptionally wrong with this Mate.
I already noticed that the while the expiration date was the same (like 3 years from now), the yerba looked a lot older than the usual, bordering on yellow.
And this...
This tastes like rotten grass.
I thought I might have oversteeped it, but no, this is bad mate.

>>16303733
What is the appeal of yerba mate, I try cold bottled mate from some hipster ass store and it taste like slightly bitter water. Why?

>>16303781
much, much cheaper than tea, good source of caffeine without turning my stomach into diarrhealand like coffee does, [[[health benefits]]] of antioxidants and whatnot just like green tea.

Mostly I need the extra kick and it does the job for cheap without liquefying my insides, started out when I was studying in uni and needed a pick me up throughout the day without running to the bathroom every hour.

if it's good for most of south america it's good for me that's what I think

speaking of caffeinated hollies, has anyone here tried Yaupon Holly?

>>16302347
puer lesbian

I really didn't want that to become a meme

>>16304025
the /u/-ification of every single board

>>16302347
raw puer makes lesbian tea shop owners beat their wives and its all they drink

>Wake up early for my 3am cuppa
>Get lazy and just pour some boiling water directly in the mug
>Add some milk and honey
>Enjoy
>Realize I forgot the tea
Not my problem.

>>16304088
That's pretty funny, i do some dumb shit when I'm half asleep but i would never forget the tea

>>16304084
>>16304012
>>16302717
>>16302466
>>16302422


okay so Puer Lesbians it is (or maybe Pu'er lesbians, whatever you prefer)

any idea for visual representation? with limited time and options i can't promise anything
what would always work is just making the player have a puck of Pu'er as a head or a reskin of the "perfect coffee" cup as teaacup with maybe some writing on it.
there could be some lesbian themes worked into it probably
if you have different ideas please let me know, i'll see whta can be done

>>16304231
nah, go with /tea/ or gongfu chad
as a head you can use something like this https://essenceoftea.com/collections/yixing-teapots/products/120ml-fang-xia-hongni-shui-ping-yixing-teapot
it's more inclusive that way and other boards will have a vague idea what's going on.

>>16304231
puer dyke
I agree with this post you should make the head a teapot
>>16304279
I dunno if you watch 4cc but you can't just name a player after a general, it's supposed to be funny references and inside jokes.

i had some leftover roasted oolongs yesterday so i made my own da hong pow blend
60% rou gui and 40% something else.
It was interesting, i might have just talked myself into it but i got some fruity notes that i didn't get in either tea individually.

reminder that these magic eraser things easily remove tea stains from all your porcelain and glazed teaware, it just wipes right off. I buy the cheap generic ones since they work just as well.

>>16295421
ppl who think tea shouldnt simply be boiling water are pretentious uptight cunts.

>>16305364
Won't that leave chemical residue? I've seen tea places sell tea stain powder or just use good old salt and baking soda.

>>16304279
>>16304765
Make it a gaiwan

>>16305364
I just wash with hot water

>>16305665
Improvement can be found with proper water temp my guy. Especially with green teas.

>>16305718
who the fuck drinks green tea in 2021? are you stunted in your development?

>>16305777
You make an excellent point brother. I never even considered what type of tea is in vogue that year. Let alone only drinking teas that are in vogue.

>>16305801
pleb and proud.
we need more people like you.
#tea

>>16305665
magic erasers don't use chemicals to clean, they are essentially very soft sandpaper and take off the very outer layer of dirt with friction

>>16305718
I don't think I'm the person you wanted to (you)
>>16305849
Ah, I didn't know that. Right they had some type of cleaner in them.

>>16305364
wet paper towel also works, heard some people use a citric acid solution for washing tea ware/kettles

>>16306248
Wet paper towel works sometimes, other times i need to use a magic eraser or scrub it, i think it depends on what the texture of the teaware is like. Citric acid definitely works i just never remember to keep some on hand.

>tfw tea burps

>>16307309
>tea burps
How does that happen? Do you slurp your tea?

>>16307325
You're supposed to slurp tea to get more flavor

>>16307325
You don't? What, are you embarrassed? Pussy. Assert your presence when you drink tea. Slurp. Slurp loud.

>>16306248
Purplecloud has some handwoven scrubbies I've looked at several times, but my gaiwan is black so theres really no point.

2020 Ba Da Mountain Ripe Puerh from Yunnan Sourcing
9 grams, 160ml, 93 celcius, 20s + 5s

I got this for a free sample during the fall season last year from Scott, ended up buying a cake because I think it's probably one of th few ripes I recieved from him thats actually good.
The smell is sweet, almost rminds me of mollasses or british jelly candies, very sugary smelling but heavier than just pure sugar.
The beginning is a very slight bitterness, not in any way overpowering, kinda giving to a dark chocolate kind of flavor. Clings heavily in the mouth, coats it and doesn't let go, finishes with a stronger bitterness but not a very unpleasant one. Very thick liquor, with an insanely rich, dark black color (my pictures don't do it justice, it's so black it reflects my ceiling). It's flavor can kind of be "muddy" that you expect of younger ripes, but it's light bitterness helps offset the muddiness.
I'd say as far as ripes go, it's probably a solid 7/10. I would recommend it to those starting out on puerh to get a feel for a "typical" young ripe that isn't overly complex or too one note. It offers a small layer of complexity that makes this tea a nice way to start trying to see past the "muddy" flavor of new ripes. I wouldn't recommend it to people who are in love with puerh as it lacks a lot of the traits of good puerh, but if you want a somewhat affordable no thinker sipper, it can make do.

I've had two cakes of ripe puerh just kinda hanging out on a shelf for a few years with absolutely no care for temperature or humidity. Trying to optimize the storage just kinda seems like a meme to me

>>16307619
People make those highly specific "pumidors" because they want to be scientific and measure results.
Someone a moot point when everything in the tea world is limited run and changes year by year with almost no universal standards. Which is why generalist setups are usually the best "This set up makes it not mold." or "This setup makes it age (decay) more rapidly"

What are some good teas available on Amazon?

>>16307667
Amazon kinda blows
If you want to try puer one of the biggest and most popular factories has their own storefront.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/13C2EA08-0075-49A9-BFCD-163233DD6D39
I would not suggest buying puer anywhere else on amazon.
Some people recommend vandham tea, but i haven't tried them myself

>>16307336
>Assert your presence
To who? I live every second of every day alone and miserable.

What are some good ways to brew ~500ml loose leaf tea?

Gonna run out of golden monkey soon, I'd like some recommendations on oolongs you're currently drinking.

>>16308027
Cold brew, if it is a dark roasted oolong or ripe puer thow the leaves in a pot of boiling water and then simmer it on the stove for ~10 minutes
Otherwise bring ~500ml of water to a boil, kill the heat, throw in your tea, stir just for a second so all the leaves sink, leave for the normal amount of time you would brew, dump the tea through a strainer into a heat resistant container to filter out the leaves.

>>16308035
This is very good for the price, i just finished off a pack.
https://www.chawangshop.com/oolong-tea/other-oolong-teas/2019-fujian-hong-mu-dan-oolong-50g.html
This is also very good, been enjoying it
https://www.chawangshop.com/oolong-tea/wuyi-yancha/2017-wu-yi-bei-dou-oolong-25gr.html
This is also quite good
https://www.chawangshop.com/oolong-tea/wuyi-yancha/2017-wu-yi-lao-cong-shui-xian-oolong-25g.html
Haven't had this one but it also sounds great
https://www.chawangshop.com/oolong-tea/phoenix-dancong-guangdong-prov/2018-spring-charcoal-roasted-bai-ye-dancong-25g.html

Anyone else boycotting Chinese tea in favor of Japanese tea?

>>16308237
What Japanese tea have you picked up this year? Any recommendations?

>>16308237
thats like boycotting oranges by only eating apples

>>16308552
Or like boycotting the state of Florida by eating fruits grown in other states

>>16308576
why would you boycott florida

>>16308552
What exactly is wrong about that

>>16308604
nothing if you only want apples

>>16308585
Because fuck em, that's why

>>16308237
No, I prefer Japanese green teas to all other tea varieties because of the taste not because I'm racist

it's official,
puer is out
wuyi oolong is in
please proceed to your nearest yancha vendor and order at least 100g of medium-high roast, rested for at least 1 year, preferably 2.

>>16308653
While your at it, can y'all boycott moving down here. Were out of room and we're tired of hearing you guys bitch about the great. K thanks.

>>16308653
While you're at it, can y'all boycott moving down here. We're out of room and we're tired of hearing you guys bitch about the heat. K thanks.

>>16307941
The whole block should know you're drinking tea, coward.

i only the lightly oxidized oolongs and green tea

3 table spoons of ear grey in mug
Boiling water
Leave for 4 hours
Drink cold

Refreshing, delicious f

It's not just the one I bought. It's all 3 packets. 3 hundred grams of bad mate.
Granted, it was literally just 5 euros, but that's pretty bad. They were out for a week, I guess they must have grabbed an old stockpile.

>>16310550
to me earl grey is undrinkable cold because the bergamont changes flavor and becomes overpowering

>>16310566
>>16310600
Earl grey is undrinkable in general. I used to drink it when I liked to drink grocery store teabags and I got tired of it which is rare for me. What does that say about the tea that they have to add oranges or whatever to do it, yet the orange is still wasted on it. It just tastes dry and awful. English style tea is gay.

what tea makes you the most "tea high"?
I have never felt anything of the sort from tea and have been meaning to see what it's like

>>16311643
Its just leaf water bro

>>16311643
For me, the interpretation of pleasurable elements have mattered more than specific values or qualities such as age and minerality, though both are of importance. If the tea is likeable, I will be more engaged and relaxed, drink more, and thus get more effects. Tea drunkenness in the way many westerners (especially vendors) advertise is a complete larp, though.

>>16311643
This is one of the most stimulating teas ive had,
Very powerful, made me feel spacey
the tea itself is smokey and otherwise somewhat bland, the kind of tea i imagine and old man drinking
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2011-xiaguan/products/2011-xiaguan-ft8603-11-cake-357g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha

>>16305431
>>16302722
>not cold brewing.

been making my own herbal infusions from my garden since I can't drink tea in the evening and I am addicted to hot water with leaves

sage is my favorite and then I add some peppermint or lavender

Just got an infuser pitcher. What's a good ratio of sachets to water for making iced tea?

>>16312365
>sachets
just throw 2-3 per litre

>>16312365
>sachets
Use loose leaves you fucker. What's even the point of an infuser pitcher if not that?

>>16311643
Its just caffeine and l-theanine. Just drink a shitload of any tea until you get caffeine jitters.

>>16312231
Do you dry herbs for the winter or just brew when fresh?

>>16310600
Bitch

Im drinking some young raw puer this morning. Young raws are actually really good sometimes, i always forget that i like them. I should buy them more often

>>16313513
just brew when fresh

I love the look of kyusus with the side handle but I am left handed so they are prohibitively difficult for me to use
I've never been this bothered by being left handed before

So any good teaware today on Amazon worth picking up?

>>16311643
Aged white tea from gu shu trees has given me the strongest tea high sensations. Many of them felt similar to sensations I’ve gotten from marijuana in the past (light pressure in temples, euphoric and floaty feelings, thoughts felt more tangible and thought-associations more spontaneous, etc). I’ve also had these effects from aged Taiwanese oolong

High quality gyokuro also seems to give me a unique tea high feeling. This is less similar to marijuana since there aren’t really any effects on my thought-associations, it’s mostly just an intense feeling of euphoria and well-being.

>>16315029
amazon sucks honestly i dont even know why i use it, 99% of it is chinkshit that will literally melt or explode and the rest is amazon copying successful products, making them worse, cheaper, and then shilling them at the top of the page to bury competition

>>16315056
honestly i prefer the chinkshit I get on there vs the chinkshit I get at Target myself. Target is also always out of stock.

I've got a gaiwan I got from there that I'm quite fond of

>>16314762
Left-handed kyusus exist. Just search “left-handed kyusu”

>>16314762
You can buy lefty versions

>>16307596
>9 grams
Wait is that the sample size or how much was used? I thought ripe started around 5g for most gaiwans. Is your huge or have I been watering down my ripe all this time?

>>16316414
His is 160ml so it's on the larger side but I personally think ripes and other such heicha are good with a pretty high amount of leaf to water. I've been doing more like 8 grams in a 110 ml vessel myself.

>>16307637
This is almost true. It's true if you live in Asia like climates, with high humidity. If you live in any place that's drier, your tea Will lose flavor quickly. The word pumidor is a joke on the word humidor which is used to store cigars, which suffer from the very same issue, they dry out. However store doesn't need to be complicated. A plastic box or cardboard box with maybe a couple of evenly spaced saucers filled with a bit of water are enough for most casual drinkers. I suggest getting a 2 dollar porous ceramic for cigars off aliexpress though, no spills and last forever.

>>16295364
Do people really hold gaiwan like that? It looks like it would burn the shit out of your fingies

>>16315077
>>16315530
Not for clay. They are all ceramic or porcelain

>>16309159
Wouldn't be caught dead in red, wouldn't be seen in green.

>>16316460
Yeah its possible, it's 50% getting your hands numb to being burned through repeated abuse and 50% holding it in the exact right spots that aren't that hot. The raised bit of the base and lid should be safe, and because that is an easy gaiwan the water level is lower than it looks like it should be, so that part of the rim is (probably) safe.

>>16315029
Somebody posted a decent tea set from amazon a thread or two ago $20 for a pot, cups, pitcher etc, all white porcelain, the pot was around 130ml, worth looking through the archives if you aren interested

>>16316961
Im to lazy to look through the archives but it was similar to these two.
https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Infuser-Porcelain-Portable-Business/dp/B08L8Y3GTX/
https://www.amazon.com/Mini-Travel-Kung-Tea-Tray/dp/B08L6C3PWX/
I think these are relatively new on amazon, they used to all be 200ml or more.
I do have to warn that i don't own these myself and it's possible they are lying/wrong about the size of the teapots in the listing.
Still for someone starting out a full set like this for $25 is pretty unbeatable.

>>16316961
>>16317061
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JTV12V4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one, I've been using it daily since then and I can confirm it does the job. Two of the teacups have a weird bump on them, I'm assuming they weren't properly sanded but otherwise everything is fine.

>>16316457
>I suggest getting a 2 dollar porous ceramic for cigars off aliexpress though, no spills and last forever.

Yeah noone who smokes cigars that are >$5 ea is using chinese ceramic to humidify. Boveda packs, heartfelt beads, or if you REALLY want to do the who ceramic thing

https://www.amazon.com/RAW-Hydrostone-Natural-Terracotta-Humidifying/dp/B00HFZE6G2

>>16317096
Thanks anon,
When you get a chance can you measure the actual volume of the teapot?

>>16317173
Sure, to what level do you want? The threshold at which it starts overflowing, or a "reasonable" fill level?

>>16317187
Fill it to the brim so it overflows slightly when you put the lid on, measure whats in there after you put the lid on

>>16317236
It's about 190 mL.

>>16317267
Thanks anon

>>16316457
I think about the idea of it drying out and completely understand it but I feel iffy about increasing the humidity, especially just leaving water in there, because of the mold risk.

>>16295364
Crossboarder here from /jp/. I recall we used to have a Japanese tea general nearly a decade ago. I never really got into those threads because I prefer black tea from India and Ceylon.

>>16317542
>black tea from India and Ceylon.
Cringe. Those countries literally just grow tea because colonial tea merchants got a sweeter deal there than with China, so they just made cheap imitations of Chinese tea, and now they still do it to make a pretty penny off delusional westoids.

>>16295364
If tea is so good, why dont you just drink it, hmm?

>>16316414
Guy who posted that here
I usually put 7 grams for just about anything into the 160mL gaiwan, but the 9 grams is just what I happened to pick off the cake and that was close enough. Pu-erh does good in high concentration so I really don't care if I go over by less than 5 grams

>>16317542
Sup /jp/
i think this thread started as the remnants of the old Japanese tea general.
Indian tea doesn't get posted about super frequently but I'm slowly adding some more stuff to the pastebin about it.
Do you like Darjeeling or do you mostly drink assam?

I think puer tastes like shrimp chips. Not entirely and directly, but some background element of the shrimp chip which I consider integral to the funky fake shrimp flavor is also present in puer. Am I completely insane? Does anyone know what I mean?

>>16305364
>Drinking microscopic, indigestible, razor-sharp fibers
Enjoy the intestinal version of asbestosis

>>16317960
Just wash the cup with soap and a clean sponge afterwards.

>>16317927
I'm guessing you mean ripe puer
you are 100% right
if you have ever been to a commercial fishing dock it kinda has that vibe, fish compost. One of those liquid plant foods made from fermented fish. A more general loam, compost fertilizer, composting organic matter.
Something along those lines.
Its usually more present (and less pleasant) in cheaper or poorly fermented examples or once that haven't rested long enough after they were pressed. But even the fancy higher end examples have hints and bits of the funk here and there.
I kind of like it to be honest.
Xiaguan has a reputation for all their ripes having a good dose of funk, they have cleaned up a bit in the last 5 years or so but still there is always a bit there.

>>16317978
Melamine foam is not toxic,because it has good physical stability and not insoluble in water, but no toxicity does not mean that can eat. In fact, while melamine itself is not allowed in water, if a man eat a large amount of melamine, will make digestive system imperfect resulting in forming stones. It's like cotton that is no poison. If you eat it too much, you'll have problems,like: indigestion, malnutrition and even death.

I use this to clean my stuff when there's residue that won't come off with just soap and water.

>>16317927
This can happen to ripe pu-erhs. What you should do is break up the cake, and put it in some container for a week or so. Make sure the container isn't air tight. A little bit of exposure to the air should mellow it out a bit and get rid of most of all of that fishy taste.

>>16317889
I like both, but prefer Darjeeling.

>>16318376
Nice, my favorite from india
first or second flush?
any plantations you like?
I usually recommended Maigret's Hope Estate second flush to people who want to try darjeeling.
First flush is a little too green for me, but maybe i would like it more if i tried a more premium version.

>>16316698
if you don't mind spending a bit of money, @potsandtea on instagram sometimes makes left-handed kyusus

>>16318393
I like Okayti. I really enjoy their first flush. Rather light bodied, a bit fruity.

>>16318493
Thanks anon

>>16295421
>not having a fancy kettle with preset temperatures for tea

I just gave you your next gift idea.

Recommended me some good oolong.

I had pic related and it was pretty good, but surely there are better teas out there.

I exist in a horrible nightmare world where I am out of jasmine tea and the local teashop that I go to is only open when I am at work.

>>16318619
Drink the hairy crab m8

>>16318629
Haha funny inside joke. Stop bullying me just because I'm new to the general

>>16318619
what kinds of oolong were you looking for again?

>>16318643
Some high quality one that embodies the classic oolong taste

>>16318638
That's not an inside joke. Google hairy crab tea.

>>16318654
Any shop you are recommending?

>>16318681
yunnansourcing.com has a large verity of teas

>>16318681
I prefer verdanttea. They offer a 5 tea sampler for $5 with free shipping to new customers. Highly recommend. In fact every single person in this thread should take advantage of this deal.

https://verdanttea.com/five-teas-for-5

>>16318697
Nice thanks

>have Chinese friend
>"Hey man, my grandma just got some tea as a gift but we don't really drink the stuff. Can we offload it on you?"
>yeah sure okay
>get a kilo of pretty good tie guan yin for free

Okay, this tea is something else. It's the 2017 XiaGuan "Gao Shan Yun Wu Lao Shu Hong" from KTM.

https://kingteamall.com/products/2017-xiaguan-gao-shan-yun-wu-lao-shu-hong-high-mountain-cloud-old-tree-black-tea-cake-200g-hong-cha-dian-hong

First, let's make it clear that this tea is like 8 cents/gram. It's about as cheap as you can find. The dry leaf smells, in actuality, like milk chocolate. Not hints of chocolate or the suggestion of chocolate - if you stick your nose right into the cake and inhale deeply, it's like putting your face into a box of chocolates. Speaking of boxes of chocolate, there's also a little bit of cherry coming through for me in the dry leaf, which was reminding me a lot of the variety of chocolates you'd get in a box where there's that pink cherry filling.

Moving on to the warm leaves, those scents only intensify, and when you finally wet them, cinnamon very overtly enters the mix. The first few steeps are basically perfect mirrors of the scents so far, again harkening back to that cherry filled chocolate. Here's where it gets interesting, though. After four or five steeps, that really round and luxurious chocolate taste starts to fade and is replaced by a different, though similarly categorized one - really high quality burley pipe tobacco. It was extremely odd to taste that coming through when it's such a specific smell that I've smelled so many times in a completely different context. I don't think I've ever had a tea taste like I just put my nose into a tin of Burley Flake.

Anyway, I'd recommend this as a very deep, round, sweet, and actually pretty complex tea that won't even approach breaking the bank. If anyone orders from KTM anytime soon I think you would do well to throw on a cake.

>>16318882
Can confirm that is a good tea cake, it's been a few years since i drank mine but now that you mention it i agree there is a tobacco note.
I only brewed it western style, I wish i did some in a gaiwan.

>>16318882
>Gao Shan Yun Wu Lao Shu Hong
Quite the title, translates roughly to
High mountain, cloudy or misty, old tree, red tea
http://www.babelcarp.org/babelcarp/
Use babelcarp for all your tea description translation needs

>>16318901
He has it translated on the page as well, which is something he's pretty good about for most of his teas. Babelcarp is definitely invaluable, though. I basically always have it open in a different tab.

>>16318894
No time like the present to grab another and run it through its paces gongfu.

good year for tea
Also if you can find 2020 spring puer that was harvested and processes properly if should be good

I've decided to start drinking some samples I've ordered, and started with a jin jun mei. Should it taste/smell like dry passionfruit rind and hops? I kinda liked it, to the point of thinking about ordering some more.

>Tfw cheating on the tea life with coffee while waiting for tea to rejuvenate.
Forgive me brothers, for I am about to sin.

>>16319835
It's fine, I guess. I usually alternate between tea and coffee, depending on the mood of the day.

>>16319857
I'm testing my tea periodically to measure its point of repair, and it seems to be doing better in the new environment. In between these tests are coffee for now.
I've been thinking about the potential of mixing tea and coffee somehow as well. Maybe a smoky shou or other dark tea would be a nice match. Wonder if it would be more intense or smooth.

Where can you get the absolute highest quality chrysanthemum in Europe? None of that sketchy Chinese unmarked bag shit that's stale as fuck and is probably sprayed with 20 kinds of insecticides. Are there any actual growers/sellers in Europe?

>>16318697
Thanks, that's actually really cool. I've ordered so much tea lately because I want to try many different types and samples are usually awful deals, it makes me glad to be able to try 5 more teas for only $5.

>>16317445
If your tea is that dry that you need Ed cups of water your storage place probably already has air circulating in. As long as you have enough air and you're in the low 60s of humidity you can't get mold.
>>16317121
>porous ceramic
>links terracota ceramic.
If you had bother to Google the one I meant you would've seen it was also terracota. There's more than one kind of porous ceramic and the Chinese have a lot of it. Like our beloved overpriced purple teapots.
I also suggested the cheapest and lowest effort solution for someone that clearly was dubious about any storage alternative being effective. Boveda packs and beads are expensive and boveda packs run out quickly, in a week even if you live somewhere quite dry. I've lived in a place that reached 10% humidity and a boveda 62% pack died in a day.

>>16319952
Any local organic foods store probably has.

Are Milk tea allowed in this thread?

>>16319956
Different anon, I used this deal when I first started out, and it was alright. They will likely also give you a $5 coupon in the package when you receive it, so you can just wait and buy something else, using that to cut down the cost. Not all of their stuff is amazing, and some items are fairly overpriced, but they deliver quickly and have really nice guys in customer service. Got one of my favorite white cakes months back because of them.

>>16319968
>boveda packs run out quickly, in a week even if you live somewhere quite dry.
Different anon, never heard of them going dead so quickly. I hear they usually last a few months. Do you have a source for your claims?

>>16319968
>boveda packs run out quickly, in a week even if you live somewhere quite dry.
Never heard of them going dead so quickly. I hear they usually last a few months. Do you have a source for your claims? May have to adjust my storage conditions if so. Dark and white teas truly are troublesome at times.

>>16320308
Camellia sinesis and tisanes, so it should be fine. Share what you like; worst you'll get is an accusation of being of the homosexual persuasion with female fermented tea consumers.

>>16321100
Different anon - my Boveda packs regularly last 3 months. Don't know what this other guy is taking about.

>>16321100
>>16321201
Different different anon here - I confirm different anon is right, same for me + you can easily recharge them.

>>16321100
My source is living in desert climate with peak dryness of 5% and having gone through an entire boveda 62% box in 2 months. My case is extreme, glad I moved.

>>16319968
If your boveda pack goes dry in a day 1. you need a better seal, and 2. you need more. They're also 2 way regulators, so you're an idiot if you're not recharging them with distilled water in a dish.
>>16321201
>Don't know what this other guy is taking about.
I try not to call out too much bullshit here, as I am new to this whole collecting tea thing, but seeing people post blatantly false shit gets on my nerves.
>>16321201
>regularly last 3 months
I'm going on 5 months now after this last recharge. I can only assume that means I've got enough moisture in the cakes now so the packs aren't constantly having to provide it.

>>16321646
Yet its not a big issue for desert dwelling cigar smokers. They have common sense, and a better seal.

>>16321673
Why all the sass and bitchyness when all I said is that boveda packs are expensive and eventually run out, which is all true? Sure we can disagree on duration and size of a humidor for 20 cigars VS the square feet of air needed to maintain several tea cakes, which you overlooked, but both first statements are true. Why don't people bother reply chains anymore?

I don't know a lot about tea but this is good

>>16321706
If your "battery" of passive humidification is running out, you need a "bigger" battery. Its not a hard concept. There are people on botl who are using the same 320g packs for YEARS at this point. You can have a set "recharging" at all times, so the second your pumi humidity starts to drop or you feel crispiness, you rotate your packs and recharge the ones you've just taken out...

>>16295364
I need some advice anons, Where can I find a cast iron tea KETTLE? I keep seeing c.i. teapots, but I need a kettle esp for gong fu. I can't really find them

>>16308653
just give up, Flordia is simply too powerful 4u

What oolongs are you currently drinking?

>>16322202
why can't you use a pot as a kttle? cast iron ain't going to break on the fire

>>16322595
through my research, I have been told that interior of cast iron teapots is coated with enamel, and that enamel will break and crack upon being heated up often.

I'm burning through all the samples and small packets of wuyi oolong i bought this spring
where can i get decent to good quality yancha by the kilo?

>>16319952
There are a bunch of small volume french organic farms that grow chamomile, it's probably easier to find if you know french but if you just search for french chamomile or french grown chamomile in your native language you should be able to find some.

Best ceramic Kyusu?
I'd prefer flatter ones but anything somewhat functional and aesthetic that can filter finer sencha

>>16322202
Cast iron tea kettles are really cool, look for ones from iwachu it's a Japanese iron industry that makes really nice ones, there are a few websites dedicated to selling them and you can find some great deals on eBay occasionally, especially if you are willing to clean up a lightly rusty one.
This site sells a lot of Japanese cast iron
https://www.sensationalteas.com/#/
Honesty ebay is a good bet, along with some of the Japanese export sites.

>>16322825
>Best
They get real expensive
Are you looking for glazed or raw clay?
What kind of filter? Stainless steel mesh? Clay mesh?
Anyway i would start by looking at some of the Japanese tea vendors in the pastebin, they have some nice stuff in a range of price brackets.
I like https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots
personally,
You can also check out
http://hojotea.com/indexe.html
But an anon was having a hard time ordering from them a few months ago
The other vendors also have some nice stuff so take some time looking around

>>16322932
Oh yeah and
https://www.sazentea.com/en/products/c4-teaware

>>16322958
I would probably look for something with a fine clay mesh filter like pic related
It might be a little bit harder to clean sometimes but i think it's more elegant than a piece of stainless mesh.
I forgot how good sazen is so i would probably recommend looking through that stuff first

>>16322984
>>16322825

try a website called tokyo matcha. It is a nip estore that sells loads of reasonably priced, and nice kyusus. It will take about a month to ship to the usa but they have a wide selection.

>>16322932
>Are you looking for glazed or raw clay?
Ceramic, porcelain, neutral stuff.
>filter
probably steel mesh

I just want a ceramic kyusu with a nice shape, my yixing taught me I really don't care about clay enough to break it out for casual sessions. I just want something to brew sencha and larp as a nip

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZYK6L7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Did I do good? Only thing I bought on prime day and it wasn't even on sale

>>16323233
https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots/products/sawa-houzan-shigaraki-yaki-shiboridashi-teapot-for-one

https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots/products/jinsui-kiln-m385-komaru-tokoname-kyusu-tea-pot-180-cc-crimson-yamaki-ikai

https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots/products/isobe-ceramics-ru213-tokoname-flat-kyusu-midnight-black-150-ml
https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots/products/4th-market-chanoki-kyusu-tea-pot

>>16323233
>>16323324
Or basically whatever from here you like,
https://www.sazentea.com/en/products/c15-teapot#

>>16323312
Haha cute
It's not as good as they guy with the bathing titty girl clay decoration but very cute

Tea noob here, what are some healthy types of tea to start with, for beginners? Mind you, I'm South Asian so I'm not sure I can get the good branded stuff you guys discuss here.

>>16323414
I would say that when it comes to health, tea is tea. I don't think there is a radical difference in healthiness between them.

I'd suggest (preferably) organic loose leaf tea which you can order online. just search 'loose leaf tea for sale' into duck duck go.

also, importantly, clear spring water (can be bottled). You don't want tap, water that has a lot of minerals (called hard water), or distilled. you can use these but it makes a noticeable difference on the taste

and temperature makes a difference so buy a thermometer. and a cheap scale to weigh it too.

>>16323414
and for beginning purchase a bunch of small amounts or sample kits, and just keep trying them.

Güd Luck Ragneesh

>>16323414
All tea is healthy, look for stuff that isn't flavored, try to find whole leaf loose leaf tea and avoid the instant tea powder or that assam tea dust that is usee for thai tea.
I would start by trying a Chinese black tea, a indian Darjeeling tea and a chinese green tea.
I don't know what part of asia you are in but Malaysia actually has a lot of great tasting tea available.

>>16323414
leave while you can. tea general is the most cancerous den of faggots in /ck/

>>16318697
Just snagged one for myself and a friend. Thanks!

>>16323460
>>16323474
>>16323498
Thanks. I'm Indian, I normally just grab the most popular brand of tea from the supermarket, but I think I saw a store that sells loose tea in bulk, maybe I'll try that.
>>16323510
Why? Anons answered my question and were really polite.

>>16323510
/tea/ is several orders of magnitude better than /ctg/ that place is a fucking shithole

>>16322804
I would also like to know this

>>16295364
for me, it's chase & sanborn, the best tea.

>>16323540
We actually have a few indian tea shops in the pastebin, but they cater to the foreign market so their prices would probably suck for you.
You best bet would probably be an indian tea website that caters to the domestic market that has the affordable grades of tea
See if you can fan a site that sells "broken orange peoke" grade tea, you should be able to find some nice teas fron the bigger plantations like Margret's Hope that arent considered export grade because the leaves don't look pretty.

Brewing up this ball of kunlu plantation puer
odds ceramic, evens clay

>>16323689
Ceramic it is
I really hate brewing these tea balls
They are a pain in the ass, the best technique i have found so far is doing a 1-2 minute rinse and then leaving the tea ball for 5 minutes or so to let it open up some.
This teaball is about 7.5 grams and this tea pot is around 100ml give or take 10ml

>>16323663
Thanks. I'll look into it.

Speaking of puer liquid prost is doing a pretty cool puer tasting event. He is selling at set of samples of some nice teas at cost or a little above to let lots of people taste and discuss the same tea.
That 2003 xiaguan is pretty expensive these days.
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/1010381398/2021-sheng-olympiad

>>16323710
The wet leaf smells like peach
The first brew is pretry lite but i did get the ball to open up.
The liquid smells creamy
The fist cup tastes pretty nice, creamy, slightly green, not too bitter, the finish is very sweet, the viscosity is moderate.
Second cup
The wet leaf smells more green now, the color of the brew is similar, much more bitterness starting to creep in but nothing unpleasant, the finish is tangy and im getting some hints of fresh plum or maybe citrus fruits

>>16295756
I never heard of any co-current extraction for brewing coffee.

Just drank some leaf water

>>16305153
There's no single molecule for each single tea tasting note, it's groups of molecules, sometimes even the same, in different proportions. Totally possible you got new notes.

>>16305364
I just soak and scrub. Given those stains are mostly tanins, I guess some ethanol should help.

>>16315530
As a lefty, I pity those lefties that fail to function in this righty world.

>>16295421
god I wish I had a gf who beat me

>>16323510
>/ck/
>home of /deenz/, /ctg/, and taco bell anon
Anon, /tea/ at least tells snobs to screw off (based puerh lesbian anon), and has a few posters who actually brew tea and talk about it

>>16318882
>8 cents/gram. It's about as cheap as you can find.
anon, 80 dollarydoos per kilo isn't what I'd call cheap by any extent

>>16324347
It's not cheap compared to industrial commodity tea you can buy in 50lb bags, but it is reasonably cheap when it comes to retail packaged tea you are personally importing from a foreign country.

>>16324385
>industrial commodity tea you can buy in 50lb bags
lmao, loose organic green leaf goes for like fiddy

>>16324398
I don't think we are disagreeing

>>16324414
fight with me anon, I'm sad

they finally started selling bottled unsweetened tea where i live. i used to have to rely on expensive imported japanese drinks only available in a handful of stores but now things got a little bit more convenient

>>16324438
Nice
You should try coldbrewing if you have access to decent quality looseleaf.
You can brew enough for 3-4 days at a time and it's very low effort, setting up the brew and cleaning up afterwards takes maybe 5 minutes

>>16324445
i bought some mugicha and its been pretty good. i just havent made a big batch yet, but i will definitely give it a shot

having some dayi 7542 today, the 2010 from teas we like, it's more smokey than i remember. Still good but I'm getting less plum and more smoke which is kind of a letdown. Maybe i just got a few extra smokey leafs in this brew.

I got some mugwort but now I realize that I have no tea making utensils whatsoever. Can I put the leaves in a kitchen roll and wrap it into a bag shape or will the paper absorb all the things?

>>16326024
If by "kitchen roll" you mean paper towel or something then that'd probably have a bad taste to it aside from absorbing flavors. Just see if you have any form of metal strainer at all and use that, or if you want then don't strain it.

>>16326039
>any form of metal strainer at all
I don't, I tried it unstrained but getting the shit into my mouth is really off putting to me. I also tried fishing most of it out with a spoon or pouring it back and forth between cups or brewing it in a bowl and covering the bowl with a plate while pouring into the cup, it's all a big pain in the butt I tell you, I just wanted to have some freaky dreams from the magical wonder herb

I cold brew my earl grey teabags in a MacDonald's glass and there is nothing you can do about it

>>16295756
no, we already had this discussion some threads ago.
some faggot even claimed he didn't know about the tea plant before

Give me the QRD on why loose leaf tea is better than tea bags
T. newfag enjoying the grocery store bags

>>16326935
The bags have carcinogens and shit in them, the tea inside them is usually low quality ground up dust, getting a nice inexpensive loose leaf (like 5-10c per gram) is also cheaper in the long run. I used to drink nothing but bigelow green tea bags, which I thought tasted good at the time but now that i've been drinking loose leaf tea for a couple years I can hardly stomach them.

>>16326935
Let alton explain.

https://youtu.be/rnl5aA3QNr4

>>16326963
Alright what do I need to get started with loose leaf then?

>>16326935
Tea bags generally start from lower quality leaf, are processed in a way to mask off flavors rather than accentuate good ones, and don't steep well since they're in a tiny bag. I think a decent comparison would be Kraft singles vs actual cheese. The former isn't bad necessarily and the latter isn't guaranteed to be great, but the upper limit and the range of possibility with actual cheese are far greater.

what leaf to water ratio would you recommend for cold brewing?

Oi, pastebin anon. It's about time you added this fucking link to it
https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-make-the-best-cold-brew-iced-tea
my last warning

>>16326024
In a pinch you can put them in a coffee filter and tied it off with dental floss.

look how they massacred my boy:
https://vimeo.com/92829356
here's a leading turkish brand production overview. as always in those kind of cultures, the tea is treated like a spice, bay leaf for example. high turnaround, no regard whatsoever for the raw material, consistent output year in year out. and by consistent I mean shitty. lowest common denominator.
meanwhile chinese go
>here take leaves I fry for a while put in hot water tasty? no tasty, wait for a year, darker more tasty.

>>16295364
Made some sun tea with Bigelow spearmint black. Shits good and smooth.

>>16327620
Very nice. You're valuable human being and we all love to read your opinions. Keep it up anon!
>sun
>spear
>black
>shieeet
Just so you know, we're very inclusive and welcoming here. Every creed and color. I listen to Afrika Bambaataa and Burning Spear too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRR9yTi9qxk

>>16327708
>the one anon pissed about based Arizona/utah/New Mexico sun tea culture

>>16327708

>>16327871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r_oFjWT1qc

>>16328042
wtf have I even posted. how is it a thing? why does it fit so well?
enough of bending reality for today. have a good night.

>>16327200
Have you posted this before?
anyway i will add it now

>>16295364
Tea is acidic shit to dissolve your teeth except it's worse than coffee for you caffeine slaves.

>>16327542
I have neither coffee filters nor dental floss

nigger

>>16328739
Drop the leaves in, pour boiling water over the leaves, wait for the brew to be done, the leaves will have sank, pour off the tea to another cup, when you get to the bottom use a fork to hold back the leaves with you pour out the tea, or just gently pour out as much as you can till the leaves start coming over and just dump out that last 10% of the liquid along with the leaves in the trash.

I'm still trying to find a good place to get bulk wuyi oolong, I'm trying to find something that is $25 or less per 100g
So far my best bet seems to be king tea mall
I haven't tried their oolongs yet but i will order a bunch of samples after the lockdown ends there.

what do you lads do when drinking your tea? i usually listen to guqin music or do some chinese calligraphy

>>16329875
rave about puer lesbians in my favorite thread

>>16329875
atm i'm drinking sencha and listening to the trueanon podcast

is there an easy way to procure coca tea on the US West Coast?

>>16329875
Gongfu and Chill
Maybe listen to some music, but mostly just slowing down and finding peace in the moment

>>16328223
>drinks tap water
Tea brings enlightenment

post your tea pets. i bought this guy from a thrift store today but i’m not sure if it’s safe to pour boiling water on him or not... might damage it

>>16330531
It used to be sold quite visibly on amazon and ebay but it's clear that they were quietly asked to clamp down on it's sales.
If you look around online you can still fond places selling coca tea, i think you can still fond it on ebay if you search for popular brands instead of searching coca tea.
On the west coast i would go to stores that cater to central Americans, those places that sell sim cards and phone cards to illegals, you might find some there.

>>16331185
I looked online and it's more sketchy than it used to be, a few prominent websites claiming they ship from within the us, their teabags are out of stock but they have plenty of coca "flour" (raw ground coca leaves)
Seems kinda sketchy, again i think those south American stores are your best bet, just go it and yell "mate de coco" at them and see what they say.

>>16331065
I don't feed him much now that I've been dry pouring most of the time though.

What's the best device to use to make shitty store bought tea bags but in bulk so I can chug down 5-6 cups of green tea easily?

Currently I just boil water in a kettle, wait 5 minutes for it to cool a bit, then dump about 5-6 cups worth of water and 5-6 teabags into a coffee carafe and let it brew for 3 minutes, then dump some honey into it and chug that for hydration.

>>16331382
That's about the easiest, you could get a plastic gallon water jug, pour some water out and stuff about 10 teabags in it, leave it in the fridge overnight.

>>16331398
Fuck I forgot to mention green tea.

>>16331400
Yeah you can do that with green tea,
You should try and upgrade to cheap loose leaf.
Drinking 20+ cheap green tea bags a day long term is a health risk, there is a lot of fluoride in cheap teabags so you run the risk of getting fluorosis if you keep it up for half a decade or more

>>16331185
>>16331265
gracias amigo

Just opened up a pack of this shincha from yuuki-cha. Looking forward to trying it out, will update with some brewed pics

>>16333048
It's asamushi so pretty clear of small bits of leaves. Mostly full, large leaves. Not many broken leaves. Very clean. Yellow liquid, with maybe a small hint of green. 1st steep picture

>>16331382
Drinking tea with honey for hydration is a bit self-defeating considering caffeine and sugar are both diuretics. Just drink water you tard.

Can any Australian (hopefully western Australian) tell me some good green tea to get? I like match a but I can't be stuffed whisking it up every tine

>>16333174
You could always get it ready the lazy way by putting it in a bottle and shaking it up hard. Heard it doesn't come out as well though

>>16305364
just buy teaware that's brown to begin with

>>16333210
I've tried that lol, its not that great

>>16333162
The diuretic effect of the amount of caffeine in tea pales in comparison to the amount of liquid you are consuming, the reason you pee so much is because you are drinking a ton of liquids, i.e. hydrating yourself.

>>16333255
Much antidiuretic hormone

>>16295364
anyone ITT interested in growing tea?
set to receive some seeds over the next couple of days

I'm going to set up a hydroponic rig, but I'd love to find out what people enjoy when it comes to how their tea is grown

is green tea actually more healthy than black tea?

>>16333606
Hydroponic tea huh? Do you have experience with hydro? It seems like it would be a lot of work.
Anyway if you are interested there is a nursery in the us that sells tons of varietals of tea and ornamental camellas. I see the have seeds too.
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias
I got a bush i put in the back yard this summer but it's not doing too hot, i put it out when it was still too cold and it hasn't really recovered.

>>16333606
I'd give it a go, though my zone and local soil don't seem to be the most ideal. That said, maybe a shaded tea could be interesting? Assuming it would grow properly, of course. >>16333667
Tea is tea. It is debatable whether a type is 'healthier' than another. I'd argue that the individual tea/origin and degree+method of processing are of much greater significance than type alone. Just drink what you like within moderation.

teabags kinda blow

not really a big fan of teabags personally

typically i avoid teabags

>>16295364
new thread
>>16335273
>>16335273
>>16335273

I teabagged ur mum