/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16171919
>The general population is less than desirable
you are also a non-desirable, incel

>>16171919
Any neighborhood cheesesteak/hoagie place in philly

>>16171919
ANYTHING WHERE SEX-HAVERS GO ;)))) THIS IS HOW I CONSTRUCT MY IDENTITY, I.E. BY NEGATING THAT WHICH IS POPULAR, THIS MAKES ME MUCH MORE AUTHENTIC KEK

>>16171919
You're a retard who didn't do any research beforehand. New Orleans has great food and drinks, just not on Bourbon Street. Why would you expect to get good food and drink at the biggest tourist trap area in the city? Don't tell me you went to Cafe du monde for bignettes too

Cajun cuisine is just cayenne and tons of salt. Hard pass

>>16171942
This, OP is a moron that probably eats airport sandwiches

>>16171942
Not OP but have been to New Orleans, what's wrong with Du Monde? I get that it's super touristy and always packed but I remember (I guess I was 12 when I went) them being pretty good

>>16171971
Going to tourist famous places is not a problem but judging a whole city or cuisine based on that alone is not honest tbqfh

>>16171978
Oh yeah, I agree with you 100% I just liked Cafe Du Monde and I wanted to be sure you didn't hate it

>>16171971
Because, at least when I went (which was March of last year) it was like a 1.5 hour wait to get inside, when there are plenty of other places including right across the street (picrel) that serve delicious biegnets without the wait. They're still good, its more a knock on OP not doing research and planning and what >>16171978 said, rather than a knock on du monde

>>16172009
Ah yeah, my dad had just spent a lot of time in New Orleans throughout his childhood and wanted me to try the ones he had when I was a kid. I still think I'd do the wait simply for nostalgia's sake. That New Orleans trip was pretty alright.

Hello Everyone I'm from Louisiana and have been to New Orleans many times, AMA

>>16172024
Fair enough, there's nothing wrong with doing touristy stuff just OP is being a whiny baby about it. I would recommend a trip to New Orleans if you can swing it, it has some really nice areas (and some really bad ones like every city) but people are generally friendly and if you ask for some recommendations at a bar or breakfast place or whatever people will help you out

>>16172043
Calm down anon, nobody likes a show-off

>>16172043
Canst I suckle you'are braaap?

>>16172043
How accurate is hbo's hit tv show Treme?

>>16172049
But I'm an attention whore ;_;
>>16172051
No

>>16172060
Never heard of it

>>16171919
>Bourbon Street
>food
Fuck you're stupid.

In my experience SF was not only disgusting as a city, but the food was overpriced and of mediocre quality. Portland, ME has the highest quality restaurants for the size of the city.

>>16172072
Based, Portland is fantastic, love the downtown area and you really can't go wrong with any restaurant you try

>>16172047
It is one of the stinkiest cities though, smells like peepee and poopoo

>>16172105
And everything is dilapidated, and it's full of loud obnoxious negroes, even in the "nice" parts.

>>16172109
I wouldn't say that, it just a homeless problem and allows public drinking which leads to public urination and defecation

>>16172131
>I wouldn't say it's a problem, except it is a problem for these very obvious reasons

>>16172043
why did you send so much of your human garbage to houston and east texas
please take them back

>>16171919
Yeah New Orleans is a retarded meme. I hate that shithole.

Anyway I'll state the obvious:
In 'n Out
Chik-Fil-A

Both so fucking overrated. They're just mediocre fast food joints, there is nothing special whatsoever about them, I don't understand the slavish, cult-like obsession retards have with these two places.
Although it is mildly amusing that most people I've known that were obsessed were liberals/progressives/leftists or whatever, and those are, or were, the two most Christian fast food chains lol.

>>16172198
They also sent a lot of that trash to Alabama and just all over the Gulf Coast. Fucking Katrina niggers, the crime rates surged in the years after that storm.

>>16172198
>>16172249
Lol I heard about that, I'm not from New orleans I'm from Shreveport but if you wanna see something funny look at New Orlans's Crime rate per 100,000 from 2000 to present day, there was a massive drop in Crime in New Orleans After Katrina.

>>16172198
>>16172249
>>16172270
I also think we lost a seat in the house after that

>>16171942
Fucking this. New Orleans has great food, but Bourbon St is basically Times Square for alcoholics.

>>16171919
>How the hell do places like this still exist?

Because of 'people' like your friends.

>>16171919
New Orleans does have great food but bourbon street is as you say, it's a tourist trap. Hell, even in pat Obriens they charge you differently depending on how touristy of the three bars you're sitting at.

>>16171928
Uh oh a hostile American!

Get some antitrust laws

>>16171919
anything in europe, especially france.

>>16172321
Is that the place where they make black people dress like leprechauns?

I believe I had a beer and some fried gator

>>16172009
Just go to Cafe Du Monde in the city park, no line, and sit and eat in nature.

Nawlins is a grease trap of fatty fried oversauced shit and sloppy disgusting drunks. Never had an impressive meal there. Portland, Seattle, and Houston in that order are all good choices.

>>16171919
Imagine heading to not only one of the largest tourist traps in the country, but also one known for high-density crowds and a shit ton of drinking, then being shocked and dismayed it turned out to be a tourist trap full of drunk people.

>>16172348
Go back to /v/

>>16172944
Really it would be pretty nice except for one thing.

>>16172983
An international tourist destination whose worldwide perception as the place you go to get shitfaced before 11AM will never be a nice place under any circumstances.

>>16172857
I don't know anything about that. I just had a hurricane and some sazeracs at the 'locals' bar, just to say I've had a pat Obriens hurricane. They were OK and not too expensive considering I watched them put like 4 shots of liquor in each drink. Honestly the one bourbon street novelty I enjoyed most was the cherries soaked in everclear that you could get ten of for a couple of bucks. I was there for a four day weekend bachelor party and we never ate on bourbon street save maybe someone got Krystals at 3am.

>>16173095
Krystals is pretty solid end-of-night drunk food, and was right outside my hotel room when I stayed there so that was nice.

>>16173108
Who goes to NO for Krystal's?

>>16173115
No one, who said they did? But it's 3 AM and I'm drunk and fucking hungry and it's right next to the hotel.

>>16171919
Marilyn Manson wrote Antichrist Superstar using imagery he saw while recording in New Orleans...peak degeneracy

>>16171942
>>16172292
food recs? going to venice for fishing but will be in new orleans for a few days as well

>>16171919
Went to New Orleans for my dyke sister's wedding back in October. Hated it. The only redeeming feature was Hobnobbers.

Underrated: Russia

>>16171919
Friend took me to Jiro's place a few years ago. Holy shit it was underwhelming. I think he got his michelin stars revoked soon after that.

>>16171942

This. There's so much good food in NOLA but not on Bourbon Street. You can get fantastic, multi-course meals elsewhere in the city for the price of a shitty po'boy at some Bourbon Street dump.

Your friends are retarded and chances are you are too

>>16173766

>Your friends are retarded and chances are you are too

By which I meant OP & his friends

>>16173747
Oh wow I didn't realize that it took until 2019 for him to lose his michelin stars.

>>16171932
If you have to go into that city, go to John's roast pork (don't let the name fool you, although their roast pork is great as well).

>>16172198
This

>>16171919
Weather sucks too. America's anus is due for another Katrina. Needs an intense biblical bath and scrubbing.

>>16173511
jack dempsey's for some real no-frills seafood and insane drink deals, and the po-boy counter in the back of the erin rose

>>16173812
new orleans takes a direct hit about every 40 years so i wouldn't expect anything until 2040

>>16172043
How does a yankie pussy go be a tourist in New Orleans, have some authentic experiences but also not get stabbed, raped, and have their death publicized on worldstarhiphop?

>>16174212
Always travel in a group, never acknowledge the homeless, and keep interactions with the negros to a minimum.

>>16173511
Gumbo shop, dat dog, parkway tavern, coops place, cochon, pagoda cafe.

hmm
i am from new orleans. we used to go to the french quarter to eat table scraps. loved CDM because it was always so busy and beignets just arent that good so people would leave plates of them on the tables it was easy to sweep through and grab a dosen unbitten ones and slide out up to the riverwalk and eat them with your friends
there are some good restaurants there, but they all exist behind a new orleans gimmick, like poached eggs, an oyster bar or 3 miles of the best bloody marys in town. the influx of art faggots and normie gentrification actually brought in a couple of good ramen and mexican places, but they didnt last. new orleans has good fried and boiled seafood, drunk food, poboys are good, their sloppa and rice plates are top nut, they have good chinese, veit and med food. bout it everything else is french creole meme food, which is delicious if you didnt grow up eating it. glad i moved and never going back. don't eat gulf oysters raw

>>16176369
Whats wrong with raw gulf oysters

>>16173812
Based.

>>16171919
Fuck "food destinations". Unless it's somewhere actually tied to geography (E.g., New York Pizza is acknowledged as being superior due to New York Water), it's just a scam. Maybe in some small midwestern town you won't be able to find high quality cuisine, but any large American metropolis has ALL the food that you think you can only find elsewhere. Top chefs from all over America AND all over the world come to set up shop in American cities to serve their cuisine of specialty. You can go to any large American city and get the exact same experience. Again, with the exception of New York Pizza, which can only be made in New York City.

>>16177679

>>16177679
>new yaaawk water
LMAO

>>16177694
>>16177706
Meanwhile, restaurants outside of NYC actually import NYC water to make New York Pizza and New York Bagels.
Facts don't care about your seething

>>16177679
Good bait

>>16177712
Only restaurants run by schizos.

>>16177712
Mmm, pollutants...

>>16177548
Nothing. Are you seriously taking advice from an admitted garbage-eater?

>>16177712

>>16177712
>but muh pigeonshit flavour

>>16171919
>Every single drink is ass
>All the food is garbage
somehow i doubt the objectivity (and validity) of your claims

>>16178032
If he was actually on bourbon street then he would be correct, bourbon street is for drunk tourists to waste money on trash, places will actually pay for homeless dudes to grab half finished drinks they find left on the street so they can add it back into the mix (specifically for those meme fishbowls)

>>16177847
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=%22importing%22+new+york+water+to+make+pizza+and+bagels
>>16177876
>>16177756
don't seethe just because New York Water is considered to be superior.
The fact of the matter is, if you haven't had a bagel or pizza made with New York Water, you haven't had a proper pizza or bagel. That's just how it is. It's Science, so it's futile to argue against it.

>>16178140
>blog post
>news article
>news article
Okay so retards import water from new york, doesn't mean it actually makes a difference. Don't talk about 'le science' when there actually is no study whatsoever about new york water affecting pizza. The reason new york pizza is good is because new york has such a big pizza name that everybody knows about it, and competition is extremely fierce so they need to be top of their game. It has absolutely nothing to do with the water, and having tried tons of pizza places, including many of the supposed best in NYC, I can tell you its not the best, both at the upper echelon of NYC pizza and ESPECIALLY not on average. Walk into a random pizza shop in NYC and you're guaranteed its going to be shit unless there's a 2 hour line out the door in which case it absolutely is NOT worth waiting that long for a fucking slice of pizza. In that amount of time you may as well drive to New Haven which is 2 hours away from NYC and get the actual best pizza on the east coast. NYC fags like you are cancer

>>16177666
Based digits confirm. Get out of NO anons.

>>16173747
>>16173777
He didn't get the stars revoked for quality reasons. The restaurant isn't open to the public anymore so he does not qualify to be in the guide.

>>16178140
Go have a cupfull right out of the Hudson.

>>16178600
tastes like english breakfast tbqh

>>16178183
Pepe and Sally are unironically better than any pizza in NYC, though not better than any pizza in Hoboken

(inb4 seething and cope)

>>16177679
fuming here because you're implying the premise of your post is as retarded as the rest

>>16178183
>Okay so retards import water from new york
"Okay, so you were correct"
>doesn't mean it actually makes a difference.
"Doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind"
>Don't talk about 'le science' when there actually is no study whatsoever about new york water affecting pizza
"Don't say facts I don't like, it gives me rage"
>The reason new york pizza is good is because new york has such a big pizza name that everybody knows about it
>It has absolutely nothing to do with the water
> I can tell you its not the best,
"Even though I'm the one who asked for evidence, and you provided it, I decided to ignore it because I just don't want to acknowledge the undeniable fact that you are correct"

ftfy

>>16178183
my man youre being taken for a ruse cruise

>>16178183
>taking the bait this hard
Jesus anon is this your first day on the internet?

>>16171971
because Morning Call is better

>>16179013
Sounds like the morning coil I leave in the toilet.

>>16171928
Nice projection.

New Orleans is full of street trash seething faggot.

>>16178659
>>16178726
Yes yes I see that now, I just hate faggot New Yorkers so much I couldn't help myself, only people from the city though, upstate is based and long Island is alright

>>16171998
yeah I saw that post before actually reading the OP he was quoting. I was also quite defensive, but in the context of "shitty tourist making an ass of himself and blaming others" it's right to call out.

Morning Call is worth checking out, sure, and you'll hear them shouted out as the Insider's Pick compared to CdM. I had them at the City Park location which I think I heard is gone now, iunno I'm not from there. But Cafe du Monde in Jackson Square is one of my life's earliest memories.

Good to get OP's ass called out, anyway.

>>16175275
>>16173511
Seconding Gumbo Shop, and fried chicken from Coop's Place on Decatur was probably my favorite meal of the last trip I took.
I'm not recommending it necessarily but I just want to mention that I did go to the Pat Obrien's and had a shepherd's pie made with roast-beef-debris for the mince and, woof. Very memorable.

>>16174241
I could probably scrounge up three pals to join me, is four a strong enough number to hold their own against New Orleans street crime?

>>16179063
I've been to the city and it's pretty fun.

>>16179119
Its fun but not a place to live and everybody who I've met that lives in the city doesn't shut up about how great it is, its loud, smells like shit, and is the dirtiest city I've ever been to. I live in Boston so I know for a fact that a city doesn't have to be dirty and smelly, NYC is just a shit hole

>>16171932
I knew I couldn't be the only one who thought cheesesteaks in Philly were absolute shit. I've had better sandwiches from a Penn Station chain store - not to mention Philadelphia looks and smells like a dumpster fire.

>>16174018
>>16175275
>>16179106
thanks boys only one of those I heard of was cochon. Is willie mays super touristy? Was thinking about going there

>>16177832
he sounds like an authority on garbage

>>16177679
>>16177712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjAy0rAOCE0

>>16179201
>only talks about pH
>implying pH doesn't affect the process despite neutralizing by the end
lol.

>>16179221
Holy fuck cope harder LMAO

>>16179159
Never been but I've heard good things.

>>16171942
currently live in New orleans

Its tasty, but OVERRATED and PRICY

My home of California has a better food scene

>>16174212
Just don't go down any alleys at night or to the lower 9th ward, anyone claiming new Orleans is dangerous is the most sheltered cuck in existence. Also don't buy coke on the street, that shit was cut with something weird.

>>16171942
I exclusively go to Cafe du monde at 2 am or later, nothing better than a bag of beignets after a long hard night of drinking.

>Going to bourbon street to eat.

Bourbon Street is for getting drunk off your ass with shitty booze and acting like a dumbass. You do not go there to eat.

>>16179261
it is literally you who is coping
you have never had a proper pizza or bagel if it wasn't in New York City. simple Science.

>>16172348
lucy... easy on the ice cream...

>>16178598
what you don't understand is they say it's for that reason but really if they openly said oops actually jiro is mediocre shit the fucking autistic nip would likely end up killing himself

>>16179550
>you've never eaten an average slice of pizza next to a homeless man asleep on a trash bag in air that stinks like feces
Oh no! The horror!

>>16179603
>trying to deny Science with some reddit insults
Ya got me... [/sarcasm]

>>16179627
Whatever you say bucko

>>16179601
There are three options here
>A nip aspie who has spent 100% of his life perfecting sushi down to the most minute detail and been widely lauded for it by people both in his own country and abroad is actually a fraud
>Some faggot on /ck/ is lying
>Some faggot on /ck/ has shit taste
Which ones seem the most likely

>>16179674
the first one

>>16179118
They won't even attempt it if there's more than two, not worth the risk.

>>16171951
Dumbass.

>>16179953
Refute it or choke on a dick.

>>16171919
noma or any Salt Bae restaurant

>>16177548
i've processed a lot of them working in fish houses and the way we handle them- they're just not safe to be eaten that way. if you're comfortable eating raw seafood in the first place, you'll probably be fine, but new orleans seafood is fresh, meaning straight out of our dirty gulf to your table, maybe briefly packed in ice. we carried tweezers on the fish line not to pick out bones, but to pull the worms (harmless, but not something the guests need to see) as they evacuated the cooking filets. our cooked seafood is great. if you want to eat raw oysters, go to an oyster bar for the ambiance and have some nice murder point or kumamotos for a premium price. don't get a fever from eating .50 cent local oysters. they also get fucking huge, mealy and sweet, just not a very nice thing to have a mouthfull of raw.

>>16179491
I wandered around drunk off my ass the whole time and drank with a bunch of homeless black dudes chilling on milk crates at like 430am. Everyone is friendly as fuck there

>>16171942
>You're a retard who didn't do any research beforehand. New Orleans has great food and drinks, just not on Bourbon Street.

Everyone knows Morningstar > Cafe du Monde, but not by much. Just a locals knowledge. I have been to NOLA at least 40+ visits over the years, and lots of time in the French quarter, and I'd say Bourbon Street is avoided about 99% of the time. A non-local may not know how dangerous alleys, and side streets can be, and just being on Bourbon street is a good way to get in trouble, too. The crime is never just a robbery or pickpocket, but senseless violence.
I have never found the finest restaurants even remotely expensive there, though....share where you went

>>16171919
>Most Overrated Food Places
unironically france

>>16171919
new orleans has good food but it's not on fucking bourbon street. that's the shitty bar district

>>16172009
Just walk in and grab a table nigga. Only tourists stand in line.

>>16172242
>chik fil a
amen
you'd think they were selling crack at discount prices to middle class white people and some adventists

>>16182233
Chic fil a at least only has 1/3 the sodium content as zaxbys

>>16179013
They closed the location by me. They were there for years. Feels bad.

>>16171919
The italian district in Boston is overrated.

Texas BBQ/Tex Mex is overrated

California anything overrated

Voo doo donuts overrated

Wild Game underrated

Michigan Underrated

France has the best wine i've ever had but was overrated.

>>16177548

It's a dice roll on whether or not you get sick:

Warm water oysters have huge levels of vibrio, especially if it's the summer.

If you're on something like a PPI that lowers your acid production, you're even more likely to get sick from them.

Southern cuisine is good for many things, but raw shellfish is not one of them.

>>16177679

>it's just a scam

>... with the exception of New York Pizza

Immediately lists a notorious scam lol

>>16180497
Yeah the line is for take-out. You just walk in and sit down.

>>16183926
>he's never had Appalachicola oysters

>>16184197
i've even has good oysters from alabama; you guys have clear water. ours is brown and most of our local marine life lives happily in salt or fresh water. idk bro mississippi estuary is good crabs and shrimp, but everything else is dodgy, full of chemical and heavy metal pollution and parasites. i feel the same way about the chesapeake and hudson bays. chesapeake oysters are fucking foul

>>16184197

Have had them.
Typically spend 2-3 weeks a year in Florida.

Have also gotten sick off them. Warm water oysters carry increased risks.

Given the choice on a menu, Blue Points, Malpeques, or bust.

>>16171978
>tbqfh

>>16184338
>chesapeke oysters
>foul
you including Rappahannock oysters? I really enjoy them

>>16179159
why is capital spelled capitol?

>>16171942
wew that looks pretty damn good friendo

>>16185997
not sure, desu i work in the great lakes region now an our seafood comes from all over, so whenever i am shucking particularly shitty oysters, i always checck th tag to see where they are from, rather than the specific breed or heritage. i have shuced maybe three or four oysters from the chesapeake area, including virginia beach and they were all watery, brittle as fuck and full of crabs and worms. even some that looked alright inside, the shells were so flaky, every fourth one you opened you'd chip into some reeking povket of muddy death that would spoil the whole oyster or they'd get so chipped and damaged in shipping, half of them were bled out and dead.

i'm sur there are better quality or deeper water oysters that are available locally, but everything i have seen from there was something i wouldn't put in my mouth. i did shuch and sell them, though, i'' try some next time we get some in.

>go to New Orleans
>go to French Quarter
>go to this shithole called Frank's
>Waitress is pushy, gets father to order alcohol he doesn't want
>We get artichoke dip as appetizer
>fucking microwaved dogshit
>Order oyster po' boy
>only one bite in, tastes rancid
>fries are bland
>didn't dare take another bite of po' boy for fear of food posioning
>most of us don't finish our shitty meals
>spent $200
>we leave $10 or so on the table for the tip
>later in the day, looking at receipt
>they automatically calculated a 20% gratuity and didn't tell us

>>16179159
Hi can I get a dead fish that's been sitting in the sun, uhhh yeah I'll take the one with the stomach thats about to burst from all the rotting hot gas.

>>16172009
god that fucking country fried chicken looks so bomb

I don't understand the point of pulled pork, everytime I've had it the sweet BBQ sauce is just overwhelming and often not even good.

>>16187509
sounds like you're eating shitty pulled pork drowned in sauce

>>16187509
You're eating bad pulled pork.

>pass through Louisiana for road trip
>all food is fried and dusted in spice
>no native can speak coherently
>witness homeless people steal from stores in front of cops who did nothing
>panhandlers were college kids
>every cocktail was a bloody mary
the beignets and chicory coffee were pretty good though

But hey, I did get the World's Strongest Cocktail.

>>16188756
Meh, weaker than a hurricane, go to lafitte's for that real shit

>>16171957
>Airport Sandwiches.

Jesus christ, do you think so? That's so fucking horrible, and sad.

>>16186587
>VA beach
that place is shit all around. Avoid it at all costs.

>>16188756
Holy shit they are still selling those nasty things? Those combined with the piss smell of bourbon street always made me gag

>>16172086
Portland would be great if it wasn't infested with hipsters.

>>16190349
There's like 8 Willie's Chicken Shacks on Bourbon Street alone, so yeah they sell a shitload of those.

>>16171942
>You're a retard who didn't do any research beforehand.
You're a retard who didn't comprehend what he read.

>>16178659
>>16178726
You've spent so much time shitposting that you've become mildly delusional. This is why you don't do that.

>>16179471
POOPA