/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Oh look, chingchong sloppa that would look the same if it had meat in it. Great job.

>>16137468
Thanks anon, took around 20 mins.

Mm mm mm, can't wait to dig into 5% of my recommended daily protein intake

I think the most broadly accepted vegan dishes are dessert.

Pic related, it's macadamia cheesecake with baklava layers and cranberry sauce and crushed pistachios.

Cheesecake is macadamia and cashew cream with lactic acid and apple cider vinegar for tang, glucose for a subtle sweetness, a little white miso for depth, cooked with some tapioca starch for texture. Baklava is normal except I used high quality maple syrup instead of honey.

>>16137475
block of tofu is about 70%, not counting the wild rice

>>16137495
That's not a block of tofu.

>>16137458
I'd eat it, and then I'd eat a steak.

>>16137509
the rest in the pan dummy

>>16137482
>cheesecake
>no cheese

>>16137521
I know it doesn't have cheese, the goal is to use plant ingredients to make something with a similar taste and texture to cheesecake.

Lactic acid provides a tang similar to cream cheese, miso provides a source of glutamate, tyrosine, isovaleric and butyric acid like you'd get from cheese.

Glucose has a very similar level of sweetness to lactose so it works well for mimicking natural fresh cheese sweetness, I just add a little extra but keep it relatively tart to offset the sweetness of the baklava layers.

The nuts provide a source of saturated fat for mouthful and consistency and when baked the crema proteins curdle and cause the mix to mostly set up on its own, assisted by the hydration and gelling of tapioca starch.

Macadamia as the primary nut also adds a unique subtle flavor that immediately sets it apart from real cream cheese, but is nice on its own.

>>16137566
I also make a similar baked brie style dessert. Main difference is I add refined coconut oil to the cheese base along with some kappa carrageenan and cook with a candy thermometer to 175F, which emulaifies the oil and converts it to a thermoreversible gel that sets up qt room temperature and melts again at around 60C. It has some added stuff to emulate the more complex flavor of a brie (like using a little red miso and dijon), and is put in a pastry with cranberry sauce and sliced figs before being baked.

>>16137575
Forgot pic

>>16137521
>>16137458
>>16134682

>>16137566
>then don't call it cheesecake faggot

>>16137458
>>16137468
>>16137521
Imagine being a vegan. All the mental gymnastics you have to go through, all the time fucking wasted, just to re-create, something you can have in 10 seconds from a shop, lmao.

And no, your vegan "sausages" and "meat" still doesn't taste as good as the real deal, it has no actual nutriens and is bad for you. If you don't want meat, then don't make your products look like meat, you deluded schizos.

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>>16137458
looks good but I'm always a bit wary of tofu

Cheesecakeanon, do you have a more detailed recipe on hand? I'd be interested in trying to make that myself.

>>16137615
I don't have a recipe for the cheesecake one, but you can just use the brie (https://easyupload.io/cwi5fw)) to a similar effect and pour it directly into a crust instead of a mold.

I make the brie one every holiday because my grandparents like it, so the recipe is fairly well tuned. They like a lot of salt so keep that in mind.

The main difference is the cheesecake had more nuts and no carrageenan and was cooked layer by layer which was more trouble than it was worth desu.

>>16137669
Oh, other difference was no dijon, no tahini or earthbalance, and the addition of glucose (just could just use table sugar, it is a pretty subtle difference)

>>16137687
what do you use for beef stock

>>16137566
>>16137615
>>16137669
>>16137711

soo uh, yea, hit me

>>16137711
Stock made with roasted shiitake mushroom, charred onions, leeks, celery, thyme, tamari and doenjang.

Or if I'm lazy, pic related

>>16137729
Meant charred onios or leeks

Also forgot the star ingredient, marmite

>>16137669

Thanks cheesecakeanon

>>16137729
yea but do you call it beef stock?
whats your chicken stock recipe?
is it different?

>>16137458
>Make a dish that's most likely been made for centuries by asian
>Decide to plaster the vegan label all over it
I thought left leaning Anglos were not okay with cultural appropriation? What gives?

Any vegans in thread, is there any vegan meal with a decent chew to it? Though not pure fibre that you literally can't chew through, just something you can chew on a little before swallowing down

>>16137598
https://youtu.be/rFX6l8FOQXQ?t=174

>>16137495
I’m allergic to tofu

>>16137458
Where's the beef?

>>16137458
>eat that
>be hungry 20 minutes later

I've just summarised all vegan meals.

>>16137916
They're mentally ill.

>>16137916
the preening self righteousness fills them up though.

No one thinks that a vegan dish can't be good. But a dish will never be good just because it's vegan.
So vegans pudding their agenda on everyone saying it's just as good as meat or that you can't tell the difference between jack fruit and pulled pork are retarded. Just showcase actual food.

>>16138316
I pity them. There is nothing wrong with veggies or fruit, but as an actual addition to the meat itself. They miss out so much and just brutally torture themselves, that's just sad.

>>16137458
I believe a dish can be good without animal products. I cook meals without animal products from time to time. But vegans are still insufferable cunts and their food isn't satisfying in the long term.

>>16137738
Because it has a similar culinary function, for example if I am make french onion soup, gravy for mashed potatoes, or various soups.

And I have cookbooks with vegan chicken stocks, but this stuff works too well for homemade to even be worth it

>>16137458
Tofu, enjoy your massive breasts anon.

>>16138324
What if I told you long time vegans don't feel like they're missing anything, because the thought of cheese or meat doesn't enter their head on most days and they've entirely gotten used to the fake stuff?

Its like how people who only drink diet coke don't have frequent cravings for regular coke, and in fact find regular coke too syrupy.

>>16140899
>vegans don't feel like they're missing anything, because the thought of cheese or meat doesn't enter their head on most days and they've entirely gotten used to the fake stuff?
Is that the reason they think of ways to make their grass look like meat?

>>16142173
They do that at first, what I'm saying is eventually they more or less forget what the original taste like and get really specific preferences on what fake stuff they like. Then they crave the fake stuff specifically.

Like a vegan of several years will be like "I want a Fieldroast sausage with violife cheese" because each brand and product varies considerably and can be hit or miss. There is a strong brand loyalty like with cigarettes.

Like someone who switches from rolling pipe tobacco to using cigarettes will typically have a strong preference for Marlboro or Camel or whatever, and eventually forget what good tobacco tastes like and not even think to crave it.

>>16142227
Bullshit. Unnatural vegan and vegan gains live off fake meat

>>16137598
you WILL eat the VEGAN BUGS

>>16137777
I'd eat gagh

>>16142234
That's what I mean, they both have strong preferences about which fake meat they want. But those habits arise from when they first went vegan and tried to emulate meat.

You'll notice long time vegans now are upset about impossible burger and beyond sausage because they're too realistic - they wanted realism years ago, and now they're used to (have preferences for) specific fake meat brands.

>>16142338
You sound schizophrenic.

>>16142467
> Become vegan
> look for meat and cheese substitutes
> find some you like
> develop preferences
> develop familiarity
> eventually your taste in fake meat and cheese become divorced from the real thing because you havent had it in so long
> you reach for a fake sausage without even thinking about the real thing
> you crave meat and cheese but your neurons pruned to where internally you associate those ideas with the specific brands of fake products you like as opposed to the real ones

>>16137742
Seitan

>>16142484
>eating something that literally sounds like Satan
Do vegans really

>>16142481
I get what you're saying and I feel sorry for you, you must feel lonely.

>>16137458
The future of Berger

>>16142506
Yeah. Sounds like cult brainwashing. Really creepy and sad.

>>16142501

I'm a seitanist

>>16142516
That’s a real bugger!

Shit. This exact thread has happened before. Timelines just shifted or something. I am in a different universe.

>>16142577
All part of this shitty simulation we're in.I mean, there is no denial, that we're all sims/npcs.

>>16137777
I'd let a female klingon officer breast feed me

>>16137598
site?

>>16137596
Hey, bud, retard, buddy
Being a vegan means you don't eat animal products, not that you have to eat imitation foods, or avocados, or almond milk, or whatever fad fag vegan thing you decide to bring up.
It's as if you, a retard, has forgotten that vegetables, legumes, pulses, grains exist. Maybe try incorporating them into your McDonald's diet and you'll stop shitting exclusively liquid diarrhea.

>>16143623
look up deepai it uses google deep dream api. there's a github with the source code and a site you can just plug stuff into. I just ran it through 3 or 4 times

>>16137458
Vegans are based

>>16143646
>Hey, bud, retard, buddy
not eating meat actually fucks your brain function up. vegans and especially fruitatarians can't hold a normal conversation it's like their brain is turned into mush.

Vegan diet is ridiculous, but if you can't cook and enjoy a tasty vegan meal you're a cooklet and a fatass

Just on top of my mind
> Pasta arrabbiata (or any pasta with legumes/vegetables sauce)
> A topinambur risotto, finished with cashew paste instead of butter
> lentils soup
> rich salad without retarded ranch dressing
> Fruit salad with maraschino liqueur
> A water based dark chocolate mousse
> Shredded coconut and dates balls

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>>16137596
>vegetables have no actual nutriens(?) and is bad for you

>>16137916
That's because you're morbidly obese, anon

>>16144859
Stop it, it makes the fat people seethe