/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16119830
Mark of the beast, shill.

>>16119830
free stuff has never been a good thing and has only led to more problems

>>16119830
The vaccine wasn't fully tested and was rushed to the people, not only is it's efficiency in question https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/05/14/after-full-vaccination-bill-maher-contracts-wuhan-coronavirus-n2589447
there is the possibility of the vaccine itself being dangerous.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253

>>16119843
cold war era boomer opinion

>>16119855
It's more likely he just suffers from terrible credit because he didn't understand how credit cards work.

>>16119835
>Implying you didn't post this from a device that logs your browsing history and your exact GPS location
>implying you don't have a SSN birth certificate or credit cards

Its a great way of a nice boost of reasonable people in to a struggling restaurant.

>>16119852
Imagine being so fucking stupid you believe this.

>>16119843
>hey, that restaurant we've been meaning to try just sent us a coupon for a free appetizer
>let's give it a try
>*go to restaurant and get free appetizer with your meal*
Exactly what "problems" where created in this situation? If the restaurant was good you'll go back. If it wasn't, now you know. The entire idea behind free food promotions is that the places expect you to spend more money when you come. If the place isn't good you've wasted a single meal (if that).

>>16119906
You can't disprove any of it. It's a fact, for example, that bill maher had the full vaccination and still got covid.

>>16119917
Those are both conservative websites you fucktard. Of course there is a bias of fear with their posts. That's all that the gop and conservatives run off of and dumb believers glob onto that shit.

>>16119917
He is also asymptomatic and has a much less risk of spreading it. There are actual scientists studying this stuff, you know.

>>16119929
get out of here with your logic and critical thinking! Retards like that OP are too stupid to think like that

>>16119924
Again mate you can argue about the framing all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/05/15/bill-maher-covid-19-test-positive/
happy now? you still can't disprove any of it.

>>16119886
I implied it, now I'm stating it.

>>16119929
What difference does it make? in the end the vaccine didn't do it's job.

>>16119938
Do you even know how vaccines work in general? Sorry that may have been too advanced of a question for your smooth brain.

>>16119944
>asymptomatic and has a much less risk of spreading it
>in the end the vaccine didn't do it's job
It's hard to believe that people are really this stupid.

"leaky" vaccines only do more harm by creating stronger strains of whatever they were supposed to completely inoculate against

how do you bait your prey? free food.

>>16119830
Nothing is free, dumdum.
Your taxes are paying for those jabs.
They do not contain mind control chips, but they also don't do jack shit against mutated cold viruses. It's a criminal waste of people's money.

It is interesting to see what some retards will do for a donut, though.

If the virus was as bad as they tell us then why do they have to bribe us with free food for the free vaccine?

Really jogs the noggin

>>16119946
Do you?
vaccines work by introducing modified or dead virus or virus carcasses into your body so you immune system is able to produce antibodies in order to combat the virus as soon as it's introduce to the body, stopping an infection.
This didn't work as the virus managed to infect completely the patient, even if he was assymptomatic.

>>16119955
This fucking idiot posting shit from conservative websites as facts is all you need to know. Most people have always been this stupid, it's just the internet let them have a soapbox to spout their idiocy and unfortunately, we all have to endure their retarded logic.

>>16119830
>implying a social credit system is good
China here we come.

>>16119966
>nothing is free
Did you even read the OP? It's the same as coupons or loss leaders. In the end the business will make more money by giving out freebees (which are, in fact, free). You're not getting swindled by being incentivized to try out a place you might end up going back to, and spending money at, because you liked their product.

restaurants should go out of business. just cook at home. restaurants in america can only afford to stay open because so many people are willing to buy low quality food.

>>16119929
Hes a superspreader. aymptomatic but thinks he is forever 'protected' and doesnt realize he is carrying and spreading the most deadly virus in the history of humanity because he took the hoaxshot and he lives recklessly and spreads it far and wide and kills my grandmammy

>>16119970
Because stupid people keep spreading it and making it political, so a donut company gets free press by giving away food that costs less than a dollar to make. It's a great tax write off for them, incentive for people to do the right thing, and for idiots seething that they don't get food for being dumb.

>>16119955
Maybe you should get a bit more acquainted with how vaccines works and how covid works. Asymptomatic carries have been a thing since the disease first appeared, so it's irrelevant from he get go.
If the vaccine worked he wouldn't be a asymptomatic carrier, the virus would be completely expunged form his system after an immune response.
Interesting how it's always the uneducated retard claiming people don't know what they are talking about.

>>16119843
Please provide examples.

>>16119997
Are you a doctor? Do you work on the frontlines in the hospital where people are dying? Are you a researcher in the medical community? Or are you a fucking retarded faggot that just spews bullshit on the internet from a few articles you read and believe?

>>16119997
>maybe you should get a bit more acquainted with how vaccines works and how covid works
brb, gonna go set up a facebook account rn

>>16120001
why would anyone trust "doctors" or any sort of "scientific research" after dmv5 was released

>>16120001
>>16120004
> I have 0 arguments or facts will so I will try to poison the well and attack the character of some random anonymous poster on the internet.
Have fun in your cult anon.

>>16119966
You know what's more frustrating that's a criminal waste of money? Insulin. It should not cost as much as it does.

>>16120001
Are you? do you have any evidence for your claims? this works both ways you can't just claim something, provide no evidence, and then cry about how the other anon who did so is a lunatic.
>>16120004
Not an argument.

>>16120015
I can't imagine being this dumb but I really envy you. I really can't imagine being such a waste of space like you.

You really, truly, believe everything you're saying. I really do envy dumb people. It must be so nice. Ignorance truly is bliss I guess.

>>16120030
>this works both ways
Am I in high school again? That's the last time I remember hearing about, "teach the controversy".

>>16120033
anon really, you can still lend credibility to people that push the idea that a mutilated man pumped full of estrogen is now a 100% biological woman?

>>16120033
He got mad, kek, still not wearing the mask or getting the shot you cuck.

>>16119998
Pepsi Number Fever.

Take the vaccine and take the donut goy, but remember not to forget your mask when you go to get your free donut

hmm....

>>16120030
Not the OP you're talking to but I'm a nurse that works in ICU. This isn't a grand conspiracy. People are literally dying dude. It's super fucking easy to sit behind a keyboard and spew bullshit and never have once in your life, been involved in the actual throw of reality. You're just a keyboard warrior and that is very clear, you have no real world experience.

>>16120039
Maybe you should go back because you clearly didn't learn anything.

>>16120042
Thanks for proving my point!

>>16120059
>cope and seethe

>>16120051
Did i ever claim covid was a hoax? You guys are completely off your meds. If i were to believe you, and if what you said was true, that doesn't change the fact the vaccine was rushed and only made available to scientizes by emergency order which decide to forgo the standard testing in favor of expediency.
Also it's very interesting that despite being a self proclaimed nurse all you did was throw more ad homines while saying nothing.

>>16119835
>shill
/pol/ sure likes to use words without having any idea what they mean. Oh yeah, you aren't even on /pol/, retard.

>>16120033
answer the question bunkertranny
>>16120040

>>16119830
Nah, fuck off.

>>16120051
People are always literally dying dude. Reddit. Soy. Claps.

>>16120080
>the fact the vaccine was rushed and only made available to scientizes by emergency
Well, at least you're using facts this time. God bless those scientizes for working overtime in a time of emergency.

>>16120090
They don't answer to arguments, they just cry and circle jerk one another.
It's still funny how much they cried about "muh vaccines" while they had no idea about how they worked.

>>16120094
>citizens
I fucked up while writing but, once again, you focus on everything but what is being said.

>>16120108
>you focus on everything but what is being said
I addressed what you said. You being an illiterate fucktard telling everyone else to educate themselves is just icing.

>>16120118
answer the question bunkertranny
>>16120040

>>16120118
You addressed nothing.

>>16120132
A tranny is not, by definition, a biological woman. Literally nobody says that, because that's not what those words mean.

>>16120144
oh, so you admit to have never read the dmv5, gotcha

>>16119852
Keep in mind, the Coronavirus of today or Covid-19 is just the 2019 version. There are a lot of other Coronas out there, such as SARS, which is very similar, but not as severe. From my understanding, they already had something similar in the works, and previous research on other strands of Corona, that they then based the current vaccine off of. I’d do some research before not getting it just because they made it quickly. In fact the true Coronavirus name is SARS-CoV-2, meaning it is part of the SARS strand. SARS was a big problem around 2002, and has been researched ever since. A lot of illnesses are similar, so previous research on other respiratory diseases, that have high infection rates also help accelerate the process.

Google is free and easy to use, I’d recommended taking some time to read actual scientific data and scientific research on the matter, not the bullshit the media tries to feed people.

YOU'RE the PRODUCT!!!

>>16120149
I literally had to look up what the "controversy" was because I don't traffic in conspiracy bullshit. That said, there's no way in hell that you've actually read it either.

>>16119835
Oh look, a Christfag.

>>16119852
>>16120167
The Coronavirus was first discovered in the 1960s, presented first in animals. It has been researched veer since. In 2003 the Coronavirus known as SARS-CoV-1 popped up in the world, however it was on a much smaller scale. Mutated from a cell that infected some type of animal, most likely a bat or bird, it came from China and infected a few countries. Vaccination trails began on animals, based on protein cell research, but was never released due to the small scale and relatively quick disappearance of this strain. Research was stopped soon after on a vaccine, but study on the virus itself was reinforced. Then, in 2012 the Coronavirus known as MERS-CoV, popped up in the Middle East. It came from, you guessed it, bats and this time, camels. Once again, research was done on animals, but with MERS also being not as contagious, research on a vaccine stopped.

In November 2019 a new Coronavirus was discovered, SARS-CoV-2. Interestingly enough this also came from, bats, and has almost the exact same symptoms as SARS-CoV-1. Because you know, it’s the second round of it. Only this time it was highly infectious and mutated even faster than before.

With vaccine research done on animals for both SARS and MERS, clinical trials being done for SARS in Texas in 2007, effectively a vaccine existed, but not for this exact strain. Thus, taking 60 YEARS of research, two mostly finished vaccines, and previous knowledge of the first strand, they completed a vaccine. Clinical trials when well, with a 98% success rate, no deaths, and minimal side effects.

>>16119852
>>16120167
>>16120190
Science is built off of other science, and with the resources they have it’s entirely possible for a vaccine to have been created in a little over a year. In fact, they do it with the flu all the time. Did you think the flu shot is the same one every year? They have to have a new one, or a previously used one based on historical fluctuations of the virus based on research dating back to the 40s, and then use statistics to figure out which strand is most likely to happen said year, or if it might be a new one.

>>16119830
Feeding people free junk food is never good

>>16120195
How many people catch the flu after being vaccinated for it?

>>16119998
Unemployment benefits have been extended for so long that nobody is willing to even try and work. And I'm not even talking about HURR DURR MINIMUM WAGE shit, I mean people are turning down $20/hr jobs because they can't be evicted and get paychecks for doing nothing.

Handouts are almost always bad.

>>16120167
>I’d recommended taking some time to read actual scientific data and scientific research on the matter, not the bullshit the media tries to feed people.
Oh for sure. I don't think mainstream media is completely trustworthy, but the main problem with it is the framing ratter than the facts, you can trust most news agencies with the pure facts, if not how they are framed.
Nothing changes the fact that, at least in the us, the vaccines were approved because of the emergency, I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but it wasn't rigorously tested as most other vaccines as it has been show to be flawed.

>>16119830
Infantilized society. You shouldn't need a sweet to do your duty.

>>16120199
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

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>>16120190

>>16120199
None with the same type of flu, thing si there are thousands of different types fo "flu". Thing is if that is the claim about covid19, that it works similarly and mutates summarily fast, the vaccine is essentially useless.

>>16119830
heh, donuts :)

>>16120223
That disproves nothing about what I said, you are just retelling the story of how the development of the vaccines work and in what foundations it was built.

>>16119830
The free stuff thing is just to get people coming to their business. People are more likely to purchase something even if they come there and buy something despite the people coming for only the freebie.

>>16119996
>It's a great tax write off for them
Holy shit, someone here actually understands how it works when businesses “give away” something.

>>16120225
Influenza vaccines work the same, they're not magically making you immune. It just preps your body so when you inevitably catch it, your body can shut down the infection before it spreads, so you don't notice. That's why you get a flu shot every year.
The covid shot is the same. It just stops the infection before it fucks you up.
Learn how shit works you dumb faggot.

>>16120258
You monogoloid, I mean that if the vaccine is not as effective because of the several different strains of covid, and if the virus is still rapidly mutating, the vaccines won't do shit because a new strain will pop up sooner ratter than latter, and you will still be fucked up.
Like it's the case with the flu.

>>16120015
>dmv5
>>16120149
>so you admit to have never read the dmv5
What the fuck is a dmv5?
Do you mean the DSM-V?
Are you seriously acting intellectually superior to some anon, demanding he disprove you to your satisfaction, when you can’t even refer to something correctly?

Devil may cry 5 was a fucking great game you trannies need to fucking die

>>16120274
But it will be a new strain of a no-longer-nova coronavirus, and our bodies will be able to manage it better like it does the flu.

>>16120306
Assuming the new mutations will not make it more deadly sure.

>>16119985
Sorry, anon. I should have made it more clear that was talking about the "free" vaccine, not the donut.
I actually did make it pretty fucking clear, but I know there are genuine retards on this board and I should have done more to accommodate you.

>>16120021
Can't you get the off-brand stuff really cheap from Walmart or something?
I agree that pharms companies are fucking people, but I think that at least insuling can be got fairly cheaply. I don't have to buy it myself, so I don't know for sure.

>>16120312
That's exactly what is happening in India. There's so many variants out there at this point. It's basically impossible to keep up with new mutations and some are still traveling or migrating to other places to "wait it out" that they are in turn, spreading it.

>>16120330
>was talking about the "free" vaccine, not the donut
It's a thread about restaurants giving out free food to try to bring back business - on the food and cooking board. I'm pretty sure you're the only retard here.

>>16120338
People in india are getting fucked tho.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dead-bodies-found-floating-in-the-ganges-as-india-battles-second-wave/ar-BB1gEc3C

>>16120338
>>16120312
I'm sorry, I spoke out of turn by saying impossible. It's not quite impossible but it's super fucking hard to catch up with new variants. This virus isn't going away anytime soon.

>>16120338
>so many variants out there at this point
That's literally why businesses are trying to incentivize people to get vaccinated as quickly as possible. I'm honestly surprised that it took this long for India to get this bad, as it has nothing to do with "migration", but with population density and general poverty tier living standards.

>>16120342
>Your taxes are paying for those jabs.
Do you just happen to live in a place where that's slang for donuts?

>>16120352
>dead bodies in the Ganges
why are they reporting that like it's new?

>>16120335
I'm type 2, so I don't take that stuff but my friend is type 1 and even the off-brand is still expensive. He's joked multiple times of robbing some pharmacies just because it is expensive and a huge cost month to month for him.

>>16120372
You posted an off-topic reply and are now accusing someone else of misquoting you.

>>16120380
It's usually a few charred remains that wash up on shore because they burn bodies and spread the ashes in the Ganges, but 3rd world cremations leave a little more than the dust the 1st world people also frequently spread in bodies of water. The difference is that now they're literally just dumping bodies because people are dying so fast.

>>16120202
Places that are offering $20/hour aren't having a problem filling positions.

>>16120413
>It's usually a few charred remains
No, it's no.
There are always rotting corpses in the Ganges. This was going on very long before the rona.

>>16120406
>off-topic
You really think this is a food and cooking thread?

>>16119830
A PET GETS A TREAT FOR BEING OBEDIENT

I HATE THE ANTICHRIST AND ALL ANTICHRISTS

>>16120175
Subhuman bunkertranny shill who participated in a grand eugenics experiment to remove the dysgenic parts of the population detected
>>16120082
Oh wait, shouldn't you be hanging from your doorframe, bunkertranny? /ck/ is to talk about deenz, not dilation and discord grooming tactics.
>>16120144
https://vocaroo.com/1kfNEwCAkd4C
>>16120352
Based Bill Gates deleting pajeets so they stop going on /biz/ to shill their faggot dog coins

>>16120051
Aren't you supposed to be dancing right now?

>>16119886
>implying that you don't have an axe wound where your penis is supposed to be
>implying that you don't look like a balding man in children's clothes
>implying that you're actually a biological woman (you're not and never will)

https://vocaroo.com/1kfNEwCAkd4C

>>16120051
I am also an ICU nurse and I say you're full of shit.
I have had some COVID positive patients who died, sure, but they were all old as fuck and have a shitload of comorbidities. The death certificates would just have said pneumonia instead if it weren't for the testing we're required to do. Shutting down the entire fucking planet to give an obese 80-year-old another week to live is insane. Unless of course the real purpose is something else...

>this shit again

>>16120782
>I am also an ICU nurse
Post badge. Oh wait, you can't, because you're talking out of your ass.

>>16120924
post yours

>>16119830
You're talking about vaccines that are being released FOR EMERGENCY USE ONLY. I don't hang around sick people all day. I work from home instead of commuting to an office building downtown. I cook my own meals. Half of the stuff I buy has to be shipped to my house.
In other words, I don't have a legit reason to be vaxxed for anything.

>>16120794
is this satire?

Why do people get so angry at others who question science? Lol

>>16120335
Insulin expenses in the USA are due to intentional supply constrictions by pharmaceutical companies.

>>16119830
I don't believe in shepherding stupid/poor people to make medical decisions for the wrong reasons.
It's not the big deal some people are making it out to be, but it's not exactly moral. It's patronizing to appeal to adults as if they were 5 years old. Give people the relevant information, without spinning it based on what you want to happen, and respect their right to decide for themselves no matter what you think of their choice or how retarded it is.

>>16120335
>Off-brand insulin

There isn't any, faggot.

>>16119830
Obesity maybe?

>>16120274
You mean *exactly like how the flu works* you absolute retard? You get a shot once a year and wala problem solved fucknuts

>>16120416
They actively are. It's all over the news where I live (George Floyd town). People are willing to squat on gibmedats over better pay for working.

>>16120929
I never claimed to be a nurse, I'm not >>16120051

So where's your badge, sweaty?

>ITT: A bunch of NEETs whose only wealth is in cryptocurrency calling everyone else losers

kek

>>16121041
ah the ol' 1% effectiveness "flu vaccine" canard

>>16121061
I'm not >>16120782
either it just seems weird to demand a badge for one guy and not the other.

>>16121041
I know half of the people who get the flu shot still get the flue either way, it just never a big deal because the flu is never a big deal. If this are the rates we are expecting things are forever fucked.

>>16119975
so no, you don't know how vaccines work
go and read up, you have wikipedia and sci-hub and you can pirate the encyclopedia britannica, knowledge is free

>>16120289
>do you mean the DSM-V?
surely you mean the DSM-5

>>16121231
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine
"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future."
exactly what I said you fucking moron

>>16119830
I hope all people of color get the vaccine. We owe it to them to get vaccinated before us evil white people.
>>16119998
Modern day America

>>16121260
>a vaccine typically
the word typically is relevant there as all but one covid vaccines work like that
then you're drawing the wrong conclusion that if a vaccine "works" then a subject can't test positive for a virus
as you wrote earlier a vaccine will make one's immune system produce antibodies, which will make it more efficient at fighting a virus (or bacteria or yada yada)
it will only make one's immune system more efficient though, which might not mean 100% efficient, so just as it happens with the flu vaccine you can get every year your immune system starts fighting the virus as soon as it enters the body, but if, because you're old or immuno-compromised or you're a genetic dead end, your immune system isn't very good then it will still take some time to eliminate the virus completely
before the virus has been completely eliminated it's still in your body doing its thing, so naturally you will test positive to a test that looks for covid RNA in your nose, even if the concentration is low enough that you barely get any symptom
if you don't have that much covid in your nose and you don't have any symptom it will be more unlikely for you to have a runny nose and cough in someone's face, and even if that happened it will be more unlikely for you to infect them as there's less covid in your snot
so again, you simply don't know how a vaccine works
please read the full wikipedia article on the topic before posting again, you'll be surprised how much more you can learn if you apply yourself and going a tiny bit more in depth instead of superficially looking for one single thing to prove a stranger wrong, learning nothing in the process

>>16121389
>So again, you simply don't know how a vaccine works
>Goes on to explain cases in which a vaccine is not completely or as fast in combating the virus.
Why must you be such a disingenuous little faggot?

>>16119988
the virus isn't magically transmitted through ether or phlogiston between two people in the same room, it's transmitted when one's infected bodily fluid enters another's body
someone who's been vaccinated will both cough less and blow their nose less and so on, and have less covid bodies in their mouth, throat, nose... so their infected bodily fluids will be less contagious
so no anon, someone who tested positive after being vaccinated won't be a superspreader, despite coming into contact with many people

>>16120040
nobody argues that a male can become a female or vice versa, that's a characteristic of your genetic makeup and I can't say I've ever heard anyone saying you can change your chromosomes from xy to xx
>>16120149
are you meaning to say that it says somewhere in the DSM-5 that a person who undergoes gender reassignment surgery becomes a member of the opposite sex?
if so, that's simply wrong
the DSM-5 is also easy to find in pdf, so feel free to read it if you have some free time

>>16121389
> this whole thing started because people have doubts about he efficacy of the vaccine
>"nooo you don't understand how vaccines work, you are all morons, look cases where the vaccines don't work as efficiently, see? there is no concern for the efficiency of the vaccines"
you guys are fucking parodies.

>>16120416
You can't look at it as someone being paid $20 an hour, but the difference they're being paid between unemployment and that job. I heard recently that people on unemployment are making the equivalent of 14~16 dollars an hour. Assuming it's the former, for a full time job you're making 6 dollars an hour difference from unemployment. 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month, that's approx $960 a month before taxes.

Most of these people taking unemployment are not going to opt for a full time job over a paid vacation for an extra 1000 bucks a month. I know I wouldn't. If you gave me the option 5 years ago when I was working at a call center for 16 an hour, that I could make essentially 2 bucks less an hour and didn't have to work at all, I would have taken that in a heartbeat. Yeah, sounds like a sweet ass gig.

>>16121427
you seem to be assuming that, since the vaccine isn't 100% effective, as evidenced by the fact that people can still get the virus after being vaccinated, then the vaccine isn't very useful at all
if you can't figure out why a vaccine would still be worth taking despite not being 100% effective then read even just this thread again
btw have you been vaccinated against polio, measles, tetanus...?
if so, why?
those vaccines aren't any more effective than the most efficient coronavirus is
>>16121486
this thing started because the US News outlet made a partisan issue of this, so it became normal for the left to push for the vaccine and for the right to push against it just so that they could have something more to "win" over, everything related to the 5G, control chips, 95% efficacy, mercury, testing times yada yada is weponized propaganda stemming from that
how can the US be so completely and astronomically fucked I can't know for sure, but as for the efficacy thing you can read the first half of this post

>>16119852
>efficacy is in question
>posts single anecdote of a famous person
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33964222/
Here's a study which heavily indicates that the vaccine actually does work, and if you continue to look around in the "related articles" section of PubMed you'll find a whole lot more. At this point, it is pretty damn clear that the vaccine does it's job, even against shit like b.1.1.7
>might be dangerous
the article you link here doesn't even specifically say how it could be dangerous, it just vaguely poses the question. the only actually problems with the vaccine that are brought up are it's poor shelf stability and a fear that it might be ineffective when administered, which, once again, isn't actually the case. That article was put out back in November, before anyone had actually started deploying the vaccine in large numbers.

>>16121579
>in only a couple of months, YOU TOO can declare an experimental treatment never used on human beings before to be completely safe!

>>16121599
>be me
>anon
>discover about clinical trials
>covid vaccine undergoes clinical trial
>someone on /ck/ posts about it
>don't learn anything about how they work
>post about it anyway
>look like a clueless idiot
>it was a good day

>>16121548
>you seem to be assuming that, since the vaccine isn't 100% effective, as evidenced by the fact that people can still get the virus after being vaccinated, then the vaccine isn't very useful at all
No I never said that, "YOU" kept on claiming people who had doubts about the efficiency of the vaccine were uneducated and didn't understand vaccines, the effectiveness of the corona virus vaccines is yet to be proven with regards to effectiveness( because they have just rolled out) and that fact somehow makes you faggots seeth so much that become unable to do anything throw epithets at anyone who has any form of doubt about your holy beliefs of the sacred vaccines.
>those vaccines aren't any more effective than the most efficient coronavirus is
that is you making stuff up, it could be true, maybe the covid vaccine is even more effective, thing is while it's still begin rolled out you have no way of being, and the fact it was only approved in an emergency situation will put people on their back foot.
You can be calming the vaccine is "99.99999% effective with no side effects", while having these big cases of it not working efficiently and being as fucking mad when people point them out.

>>16121548
The Trump administration failed to act on it early and covid started spreading faster than anyone could have predicted. It's just that trump and co didn't do anything until it was too late.

Then people started to make it political with just a piece of cloth over their mouths.

>>16119830
widespread use of leaky vaccines cause the virus to evolve to a more infectious and lethal form. the most infamous example is marek's disease in chickens, when it first hit it caused temporary paralysis. the vaccine that was developed didn't prevent the chickens from getting infected but it did prevent them getting a bad enough case to cause paralysis. within a few years of widespread vaccination marek's disease could infect an entire farm in days and had a mortality rate among unvaccinated chickens of 100%.

it's not an accident that we're seeing more infectious and more lethal variants of covid in recent months, that's the inevitable result of this vaccination craze. all these leaky covid vaccines are evolving this thing into a humanity-killing virus.

>>16119835
How's this one the mark of the beast?
There's no mark, the needle hole goes away after about an hour or two, so you can't even tell if someone is vacced' no not.

>>16121613
the very fucking day that the pharma companies refuse immunity from litigation that they enjoy now and/or donate all of the profits i will go and get the vaccine

>>16121548
>this thing started because the US News outlet made a partisan issue of this, so it became normal for the left to push for the vaccine and for the right to push against it just so that they could have something more to "win" over, everything related to the 5G, control chips, 95% efficacy, mercury, testing times yada yada is weaponized propaganda stemming from that
Sure and both sides are to blame for that. You can't deny democrats are making just as much of a mockery of science with their claims and exaggerations as republicans are.
>but as for the efficacy thing you can read the first half of this post
Any claims about the ficiency of these vaccines need time to be proven and you knwo it, the fact any sort of doubt gets met with so much open aggressiveness when doubt is normal seeing the batshit insane claims coming form both sides of the isle just makes people even more skeptical of why the fuck one should believe 100% on a vaccine that doesn't have 100% rate of efficiency.

>>16121622
>The Trump administration failed to act on it early
this is such a retarded brainwashed take. they were calling him a xenophobe for instituting travel restrictions.

>>16121647
SHHHH come on now surely those big companies have you best interest at heart. Just trust """""science"""" bro since will protect you and guard your soul form evil viruses.

>>16120416
my place is.

>>16121613
trust me i know way more about mRNA and genetic therapies than you

>>16121655
I'm not talking about who the fuck ever was calling him a xenophobe. I'm talking about the fact that the administration failed to act on the virus. The government as a whole failed.

>>16119830
>vaccine suppresses symptoms
>vaccine does not stop spread
>disease has more time to incubate
>disease gets more lethal because the over-lethality selective pressure is gone
>close proximity ensures spread in the one place where everyone takes their masks off to eat
So it's just making things worse.

>>16121689
he acted on it as early as anyone else and was sandbagged for politics by the democrats who were walking around saying go out and kiss chinese people

>>16121689
mate you are a partisan fuck, the dems at the begging where telling people to hug Chinese children and go to Chinese businesses because closing down shit was racsit.
The it inverted and people completely change sides because nobody gives a fuck about what is true or good for the country and only care about power.

>>16121621
I never said anything about other people, I just said that you didn't know about how vaccines worked
>the effectiveness of the coronavirus is yet to be proven
that's false, see >>16121579 and >>16120216
>throw epiteths
once again, I just said you didn't know how vaccines worked
>this is you making stuff up
see a few lines above
>you can be claiming the vaccine is near 100% effective
but I haven't done that, quite the opposite in fact, so why bringing that hypothetical scenario up?
>>16121622
>the coronavirus spreads at a certain rate in china
>health professionals in charge of policymaking have access to this data, if rough and not 100% reliable
>covid spreads to the us
>it spreads at the same rate as it did in china before they locked everyone in their homes
>nobody in the Trump administration could have knows covid was this contagious
if they were all blind and/or we had known nothing about the chinks' situation you might have a point
>>16121651
>it's also the left's fault though
this kind of mentality is why the US news outlets were able to convince the US citizens that a health issue was actually a partisan issue
>we need more time to know how effective the vaccines are
no, that's one of the things clinical trials are for, the only thing we don't yet know about are the long term effects
>why are my reasonable doubts being dismissed
because they are based on your lack of knowledge about how clinical trials work and what a vaccine does
even if you just read this thread you can find a fair bit on info, and knowledge is free, google scholar exists, and I'll assume you can read
ofc you will find some people shooting your doubts down because they understand less than you about the vaccine but have taken up the role of heroes of the free world and will demonize everyone who doesn't praise the vaccine as the cristians do god, but it's not the case here and now

>>16121713
>vaccine does not stop spread
>>16121437

>>16121716
~~~TIMELINE OF TRUMP'S CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE~~~

May 2018
The Trump Administration disbands the White House pandemic response team.

July 2019
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency left the post, and the Trump Administration eliminated the role.

Oct. 2019
“Currently, there are insufficient funding sources designated for the federal government to use in response to a severe influenza pandemic.” [Source: The results of a Department of Health and Human Services 2019 influenza pandemic simulation]

Jan. 22, 2020
“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

Jan. 24, 2020
Trump praises China’s handling of the coronavirus: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Jan. 28, 2020
“This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency...This is going to be the roughest thing you face" Trump’s National Security Advisor to Trump

Jan. 30, 2020
"The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on US soil,...This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.” [Memo from Trump Trade Advisor Peter Navarro]

Feb. 2, 2020
“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

Feb. 7, 2020
“It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff” [Trump in a private interview with Bob Woodward from The Washington Post made public on Sept. 9, 2020]

>>16120021
>>16120335
Yes, you can buy Regular and NPH insulins OTC at Walmart for under $100/vial (apprx 1 month supply). These insulins are about 100 years old, and while you may live, they require very intensive therapy with 5-10 injections per day and a very regimented lifestyle (or a very expensive insulin pump) to come anywhere close to adequate blood glucose control of the more modern analog insulin formulations from the late 1990's to early 2000's. These "new" 20+ year old analogs which are either very slow-release basal dose or fast-acting insulins which easily provide reasonable blood glucose control with minimal lifestyle regimens cost under $30/vial when they first hit the market, but now cost $300-400/vial, making an average monthly supply cost just shy of $1000. Granted that you could survive on the old stuff, you will not live as long. It will take years or decades off your life. The funny business is that these "new" analogs are essentially perfect, and they have expired patents, yet no generic is able to be manufactured for ((reasons)) and the retail prices have gone up far, far, far higher than the rate of inflation. These are essential medications, mind you, and not designer drugs. The big three: Eli Lily, Novo Nordisk, and Sanofi have clearly colluded with each other to price fix these drugs. This, in combination with the abhorent medical insurance system in the US leaves millions of people with rent-on-life situations costing them upwards of $10,000 a year, even with "good" insurance. Imagine a middle-class lifestyle with an extra $10k expense. Imagine a working class lifestyle with an additional $10k expense. It's some seriously fucked up shit.

>>16121839
Feb. 10, 2020
“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”
“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

Feb. 24, 2020
“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… the Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25, 2020
“CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
“I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

Feb. 26, 2020
“The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
“We're going very substantially down, not up.”
“Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”
"THis is a flu. This is like a flu."

Feb. 27, 2020
“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
“The ineptness with which the Trump Administration approached this problem is not only serious, it can be deadly if not changed in the approach.” – Rep. Lloyd Doggett [During a hearing, Rep. Doggett questions HHS Sec. Azar on Trump's refusal to take this virus seriously, warning about mask and test shortages]

Feb. 28, 2020
“We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

March 2, 2020
“You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?” [Trump to health officials who answered "No."]
“A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

>>16121778
Again the clinical trial weren't completely conclusive because they never are, there haven been several cases (granted all of those I know form memory happened in china) of vaccines passing clinical trials and them being botched somehow while being applied to people. Either way my place is vaccinating older folk first so I couldn't go if I wanted.
Just know that I don't trust you and you partisan hackery. You are clearly too ideological to even admit dems did anything wrong when they were responsible for the early spread and now their shit mind boggling acts are scaring the general population away from vaccines because they all seem like a bunch of lunatics.

>>16119965
fpbp

>>16121839
March 4, 2020
“Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild.”
“If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5, 2020
“I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
“The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6, 2020
“I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
“You have to be calm. It’ll go away.”
“Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
“I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
“I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 7, 2020
“No, I’m not concerned at all.

March 8, 2020
“We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9, 2020
During a news conference, White House officials said the U.S. will have tested one million people that week and thereafter would complete 4 million tests per week. By the end of the week, the CDC had only completed a paltry 4,000 tests.

March 10, 2020
“Just stay calm. It will go away.”

>>16121839
Give sources because I bet you are taking all of these out of your ass.
Also if that was trumps response at the begging it just went with what the who said as well so he is perfectly in line with what should be done.

>>16121839
March 11, 2020
The World Health Organization categorizes the coronavirus as a pandemic due to its alarming spread and severity.
“It goes away….It’s going away. We want it to go away with very, very few deaths.”

March 12, 2020
“The system is not really geared to what we need right now...That is a failing. Let’s admit it.” [Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to Congress]
"You know, you see what's going on. And so I just wanted that to stop as it pertains to the United States. And that's what we've done. We've stopped it."

March 13, 2020
“I don’t take responsibility at all.”
The Atlantic reports that less than 14,000 tests have been done in the ten weeks since the Administration had first been notified of the virus, though Mike Pence had promised the week prior that 1.5 million tests would be available by this time.

March 14, 2020
“I’d rate it a ten,” [Trump’s rating of his coronavirus response]

March 15, 2020
“Relax”
“This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

March 16, 2020
“Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment-try getting it yourselves,”

March 17, 2020
“The only thing we haven’t done well is get good press.”
“I felt like it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”

March 19, 2020
I intended "to always play it down.” [Trump in a private taped interview with Bob Woodward, made public on September 9]

March 20, 2020
“I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say. I think it's a very nasty question, and I think it's a very bad signal that you're putting out to the American people." [Response to reporter’s question: "What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?"]

March 22, 2020
“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF.”

>>16119830
Because you're incentivising an unhealthy nation to get a vaccine for a virus that only affects the unhealthy with unhealthy foods

>>16121839
March 24, 2020
“I'm also hopeful to have Americans working again by that Easter - that beautiful Easter day.”
“We’ve never closed down the country for the flu,” Trump said. “So you say to yourself, what is this all about?”
“They have to treat us well, also. They can’t say, ‘Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.’”

March 25, 2020
“The faster we go back, the better it’s going to be.”

March 26, 2020
The United States becomes the country with the most confirmed coronavirus cases. A title it keeps for the remainder of Trump's time in office.
“Congratulations AMERICA!” [On Senate passage of third relief bill]
“I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”
“We’ve had a big problem with the young, a woman governor from — you know who I’m talking about — from Michigan,”

March 27, 2020
“I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude!”
“Mike, don’t call the governor of Washington. You’re wasting your time with him…”
“I want them to be appreciative. We've done a great job.”
“We’re doing a great job for the state of Washington and I think the Governor...he’s constantly chirping and I guess complaining would be a nice way of saying it.”

March 29, 2020
“Where are the masks going? Are they going out the back door? How do you go from 10,000 to 300,000?”
“Unfortunately the enemy is death. It's death. A lot of people are dying. So it's very unpleasant.”

>>16121839
so you are just spamming out of context quotes that might or might not have come form the ex president.
Nice.

>>16121839
March 30, 2020
"Stay calm, it will go away. You know it -- you know it is going away, and it will go away, and we're going to have a great victory."
“I think New York should be fine, based on the numbers that we see, they should have more than enough. I mean, I’m hearing stories that they’re not used or they’re not used right.”
“I haven’t heard about testing in weeks. We’re testing more than any other nation in the world. We’ve got these great tests...But I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”
“We inherited a broken test — the whole thing was broken.”

March 31, 2020
“...it’s not the flu. It’s vicious.”

April 1, 2020
"They have to treat us well, also. They can't say, 'Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that." [Trump's response to governors who were pleading for medical gear and ventilators to treat surging coronavirus hospitalizations]

April 2, 2020
“Massive amounts of medical supplies... are being delivered directly to states...Some have insatiable appetites & are never satisfied (politics?). The complainers should have been stocked up and ready long before this crisis hit.”
“...the Federal Government is merely a back-up for state governments.”

April 3, 2020
“I’m feeling good. I just don’t want to be doing -- somehow sitting in the Oval Office behind that beautiful resolute desk, the great resolute desk, I think wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, I don’t know, somehow I don’t see it for myself. I just don’t. Maybe I’ll change my mind.”

April 5, 2020
“FEMA, the military — what they’ve done is a miracle...And you should be thanking them for what they’ve done, not always asking wise-guy questions.” [Trump's response to a reporter when asked about slow government response to coronavirus]

April 6, 2020
“LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!”
U.S. death toll passes 10,000

>>16121878
>>16121872
>>16121854
>>16121843
retard moment

>>16121839
April 7, 2020
"So, you know, things are happening. It's a -- it's -- I haven't seen bad. I've not seen bad."
"You are not going to die from this pill...I really think it's a great thing to try." [Trump promoting Hydroxychloroquine, not FDA approved to treat coronavirus]
“That was a flu. OK. So you could say that I said it was a flu, or you could say the flu is nothing to -- sneeze at," [Regarding Spanish Flu]

April 8, 2020
"I read about it maybe a day, two days ago,...It was a recommendation that he had, I think he told certain people on the staff, but it didn't matter. I didn't see it." [Trump referring to Peter Navarro’s January warning]

April 9, 2020
“I couldn’t have done it any better,” [When asked if his coronavirus response could have been better]

April 11, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 20,000

April 13, 2020
“But I guess I'm doing OK, because, to the best of my knowledge, I'm the President of the United States, despite the things that are said."

April 14, 2020
“Enough!” [When a reporter questioned his claim that his authority as president is “total”]
“[w]hen somebody’s the president of the United States, the authority is total.”

April 15, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 30,000
As Trump focuses on reopening, a leaked CDC and FEMA report warns of “significant risk of resurgence of the virus” with phased reopening.

April 19, 2020
“Now we’re going toward 50, I’m hearing, or 60,000 people [dead from the coronavirus]”

April 20, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 40,000

April 22, 2020
“If [coronavirus] comes back though, it won’t be coming back in the form that it was, it will be coming back in smaller doses that we can contain….it’s also possible it doesn’t come back at all.”

>business is struggling
>give away free food

hmmmmmm

>>16121839
April 23, 2020
"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."
“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way…”
“You see states are starting to open up now, and it’s very exciting to see,”
Over 26 million jobless claims have been filed

April 24, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 50,000

April 26, 2020
“The people that know me and know the history of our Country say that I am the hardest working President in history.”

April 27, 2020
"I can't imagine why," [Trump’s response to the influx in poison control calls about disinfectant]

April 29, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 60,000
“It’s gonna go away, this is going to go away.”

May 3, 2020
“Look, we're going to lose anywhere from 75,000, 80,000 to 100,000 people,”

>>16119830
amerifats need to be incentivized with donuts....wow. just, wow.

>>16121839
May 5, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 70,000
Consumer debt hits an all-time high
“Well run States should not be bailing out poorly run States, using CoronaVirus as the excuse!”
“I always felt 60, 65, 70, as horrible as that is. I mean, you’re talking about filling up Yankee Stadium with death! So I thought it was horrible. But it’s probably going to be somewhat higher than that,”
“There’ll be more death, that the virus will pass, with or without a vaccine. And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal,”
“I don’t want to be Mr. Gloom-and-Doom. It’s a very bad subject,...I’m not looking to tell the American people when nobody really knows what’s happening yet, ‘Oh, this is going to be so tragic.’”

May 6, 2020
The Brookings Institution reports that children were “experiencing food insecurity to an extent unprecedented in modern times” and “40.9 percent of mothers with children ages 12 and under reported household food insecurity since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.” Republicans block proposals to expand food stamps.
“Sporadic for you, but not sporadic for a lot of other people.” [Trump’s response to a nurse telling him that equipment supply has been “sporadic”]

May 7, 2020
Over 33 million jobless claims have been filed

May 8, 2020
“This is going to go away without a vaccine. It is going to go away. We are not going to see it again.”

May 9, 2020
“This is going to go away without a vaccine.”

May 11, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 80,000
“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere. Big progress being made!”
“We have met the moment and we have prevailed,”

May 14, 2020
“Could be that testing’s, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated.”
“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing,”

>>16121889
Yep, pretty much every day Trump was in office was a retard moment.

>>16121839
May 15, 2020
“Vaccine or no vaccine, we’re back. And we’re starting the process. In many cases, they don’t have vaccines and a virus or a flu comes and you fight through it.

May 16, 2020
“We’ve done a GREAT job on Covid response, making all Governors look good, some fantastic (and that’s OK), but the Lamestream Media doesn’t want to go with that narrative, and the Do Nothing Dems talking point is to say only bad about “Trump”. I made everybody look good, but me!”

May 18, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 90,000

May 19, 2020
“When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing,...Because it means our testing is much better. I view it as a badge of honor, really, it's a badge of honor.”

May 21, 2020
USA Today reports that home mortgage delinquencies surged by 1.6 million in April, the largest single-month jump in history.

May 22, 2020
Over 38 million jobless claims have been filed

May 27, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 100,000

May 29, 2020
“We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization”

June 6, 20202
U.S death toll passes 110,000
“Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that’s happening for our country...This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality.” [Trump referring to George Floyd, who was murdered on May 25, 2020.]

June 15, 2020
“At some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.”

June 17, 2020
“It’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.”

June 18, 2020
“And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.”

June 20, 2020
"Testing is a double-edged sword,...When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases, so I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.'"

>>16121905
rent free

>>16121839
June 22, 2020
U.S death toll passes 120,000

June 23, 2020
“Cases are going up in the U.S. because we are testing far more than any other country, and ever expanding. With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!”
"It's going away,"

June 25, 2020
“The number of ChinaVirus cases goes up, because of GREAT TESTING, while the number of deaths (mortality rate), goes way down. The Fake News doesn’t like telling you that!”
“Coronavirus deaths are way down. Mortality rate is one of the lowest in the World. Our Economy is roaring back and will NOT be shut down. “Embers” or flare ups will be put out, as necessary!”

June 30, 2020
The U.S. has just 4% of the global population, but 25% of global coronavirus cases and the second-highest death rate per capita.

July 1, 2020
“I think we’re going to be very good with the coronavirus.” “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope.”

July 6, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 130,000

July 7, 2020
"I think we are in a good place."

July 7, 2020
The president predicted that in the next two to four weeks, "I think we're going to be in very good shape."

July 8, 2020
“In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November election, but it is important for the children & families. May cut off funding if not open!”
“I disagree with @CDCgov on their very tough & expensive guidelines for opening schools. While they want them open, they are asking school [sic] to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!”

July 18, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 140,000

July 19, 2020
“I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world"
“Many of those cases are young people that would heal in a day”
“They have the sniffles, and we put it down as a test”

>>16121839
July 21, 2020
"You will never hear this on the Fake News concerning the China Virus, but by comparison to most other countries, who are suffering greatly, we are doing very well - and we have done things that few other countries could have done!”

July 27, 2020
"America will develop a vaccine very soon, and we will defeat the virus. We will have it delivered in record time."

July 28, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 150,000
"He's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration -- with respect to the virus?" (Trump referring to Anthony Fauci)

Aug. 1, 2020
“Wrong! We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases,” (Donald Trump in a retweet of Anthony Fauci saying the U.S. has seen more cases than European countries because it only shut down a fraction of its economy amid the pandemic)

Aug. 3, 2020
"I think we are doing very well and I think ... as well as any nation,"
"They are dying. That's true. And you — it is what it is.”
“OPEN THE SCHOOLS!!!”
“Right now I think it’s under control.”
“You know, there are those that say you can test too much, you do know that.”

Aug. 4, 2020
"...we have among the lowest numbers." - White House Press Briefing

Aug. 5, 2020
“If you look at children, children are almost - and I would almost say definitely - but almost immune from this disease.”
“We’re supplying the world now with ventilators. You go back four months, we didn’t have any.” - Fox and Friends
“It will go away like things go away”

Aug. 6, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 160,000

Aug. 12, 2020
U.S. reports the highest number of COVID-19 deaths in one day since mid-May

Aug. 16, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 170,000

>>16121839
Aug. 19, 2020
New York Times report reveals that in December 2020 that Trump yelled, “You’re killing me! This whole thing is! We’ve got all the damn cases...I want to do what Mexico does. They don’t give you a test till you get to the emergency room and you’re vomiting,” at Jared Kushner during an August 19, 2020 meeting.

Aug. 22, 2020
“Many doctors and studies disagree with this!” (Donald Trump in a quote tweet of a Twitter moment stating that the FDA is revoking hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 treatment, as they are “unlikely to be effective”)
“The deep state, or whoever, over at the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics. Obviously, they are hoping to delay the answer until after November 3rd. Must focus on speed, and saving lives!”

Aug. 23, 2020
The President claims that ballot drop boxes are a “voter security disaster” and a “big fraud,” “possible for a person to vote multiple times” and that they aren’t “Covid sanitized.”

Aug. 26, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 180,000

Aug. 31, 2020
"We've done a great job in Covid but we don't get the credit."
Over Six million Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus.

Sept. 4, 2020
There will be a vaccine “before the end of the year and maybe even before Nov. 1. I think we can probably have it sometime in October.”

Sept. 9, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 190,000

Sept. 10, 2020
“I really do believe that we are rounding the corner. The vaccines are right there”
“This is nobody's fault but China.”
“We've possibly done the best job”
“We have rounded the final turn”
“I think that we've probably done the best job of any country”

Sept. 14, 2020
Trump was asked if he is afraid of Coronavirus risk at his rallies: “I’m on a stage, it’s very far away, so I’m not at all concerned.”

>>16121839
Sept. 16, 2020
“If you take the blue states out, we’re at a level I don’t think anybody in the world would be at.”
Reporter: “[The head of the CDC] said that the vaccine for the general public wouldn’t be available until next Summer or maybe even early fall. Are you comfortable with that timeline?” Trump: “I think he made a mistake when he said that. That’s just incorrect information.”

Sept. 19, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 200,000

Sept. 21, 2020
“Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. But [the virus] affects virtually nobody. It’s an amazing thing. By the way, open your schools everybody, open your schools.”
"We're rounding the corner," "With or without a vaccine. They hate when I say that but that's the way it is. ... We've done a phenomenal job. Not just a good job, a phenomenal job. Other than public relations, but that's because I have fake news. On public relations, I give myself a D. On the job itself, we take an A+."
"In some states, thousands of people — nobody young. Below the age of 18, like, nobody. They have a strong immune system, who knows? Take your hat off to the young, because they have a hell of an immune system. But it affects virtually nobody. It’s an amazing thing. By the way, open your schools everybody, open your schools.”

Sept. 23, 2020
"I think we’re rounding the turn very much."

Sept. 28, 2020
"And I say, and I’ll say it all the time: We’re rounding the corner. And, very importantly, vaccines are coming, but we’re rounding the corner regardless. But vaccines are coming, and they’re coming fast. "

Sept. 29, 2020
"Well, so far we have had no problem whatsoever. " [Trump referring to the thousands of people attending his rallies]

October 2, 2020
Trump and the First Lady test positive for Coronavirus. More than a dozen White House staff and aides test positive shortly thereafter.

>>16121839
You're wrong right off the bat. He didn't disband the pandemic response team. That was actually fake news

>>16121839
Oct. 5, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 210,000
“Don’t be afraid of Covid.”

Oct. 6, 2020
"Many people every year, sometimes over 100,000, and despite the Vaccine, die from the Flu, Are we going to close down our Country? No, we have learned to live with it, just like we are learning to live with Covid, in most populations far less lethal!!!" [Source: Trump Tweet and Facebook Post, both were taken down]

Oct. 10, 2020
"But it’s going to disappear; it is disappearing."

Oct. 11, 2020
"...We have done a “phenomenal” job, according to certain governors. Many people agree...And now come the Vaccines & Cures, long ahead of projections!"

Oct. 12, 2020
"Under my leadership, we're delivering a safe vaccine and a rapid recovery like nobody can even believe. And if you look at our upward path, no country in the world has recovered the way we've recovered economically or otherwise, not even close."
“I went through it. Now, they say I'm immune. I can feel—I feel so powerful.”
“When this first came out, if we didn't do a good job, they predicted 2.2 million people would die, we're 210,000. We shouldn't be at, one, it's China's fault. They allowed this to happen.”

Oct. 15, 2020
“Excess mortality, we’re a winner on the excess mortality. And what we’ve done has been amazing. And we have done an amazing job. And it’s rounding the corner and we have the vaccines coming, and we have the therapies coming.”

Oct. 18, 2020
"He'll listen to the scientists... If I listened totally to the scientists, we would right now have a country that would be in a massive depression instead — we’re like a rocket ship. Take a look at the numbers." [Trump referring to Biden]

>>16121839
Oct. 19, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 220,000
"People are saying whatever. Just leave us alone. They’re tired of it. People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots...Fauci is a nice guy. He’s been here for 500 years."
"They are getting tired of the pandemic, aren't they? You turn on CNN, that's all they cover. 'Covid, Covid, Pandemic, Covid, Covid.' You know why? They're trying to talk everybody out of voting. People aren't buying it, CNN, you dumb bastards."

Oct. 20, 2020
Politico reports that The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs in Democratic-led cities that President Donald Trump has deemed “anarchist jurisdictions.”

Oct. 22, 2020
"We are rounding the turn (on coronavirus). We are rounding the corner.”

Oct. 24, 2020
“Turn on television: ‘covid, covid, covid, covid, covid.’ A plane goes down, 500 people dead, they don’t talk about it — ‘covid, covid, covid, covid,’ “By the way, on November 4th, you won’t hear about it anymore.”

Oct. 26, 2020
"Cases up because we TEST, TEST, TEST. A Fake News Media Conspiracy. Many young people who heal very fast. 99.9%. Corrupt Media conspiracy at all time high. On November 4th., the topic will totally change. VOTE!"
"We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election. COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers. Should be an election law violation!"

>>16121951
stop spreading fake news on /ck/, go back to your containment board

>>16121839
Oct. 27, 2020
"So they brought it down now, immunity, from life to four months. And you know now with them, you can’t watch anything else. You turn on… COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID. Well, we have a spike in cases. You ever notice, they don’t use the word death. They use the word cases, cases. Like, “Barron Trump is a case.” He has sniffles. He was sniffling. One Kleenex, that’s all he needed. One, and he was better. But he’s a case"
"November 4th. On November 4th, you’ll hear, “It’s getting better. It’s getting better.” You watch. No, no, they’re doing heavy COVID because they want to scare people, and people get it." [Trump referring to news media]

Oct. 28, 2020
"Covid, Covid, Covid is the unified chant of the Fake News Lamestream Media. They will talk about nothing else until November 4th., when the Election will be (hopefully!) over. Then the talk will be how low the death rate is, plenty of hospital rooms, & many tests of young people."

Oct. 30, 2020
"More Testing equals more Cases. We have the best testing. Deaths WAY DOWN. Hospitals have great additional capacity! Doing much better than Europe. Therapeutics working!"
Nine million Americans have now been infected by the coronavirus.
“Our doctors get more money if someone dies from Covid,” and so “when in doubt choose Covid.”

Nov. 1, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 230,000
“Biden wants to LOCKDOWN our Country, maybe for years. Crazy! There will be NO LOCKDOWNS. The great American Comeback is underway!!!”

Nov. 2, 2020
“Joe Biden is promising to delay the vaccine and turn America into a prison state—locking you in your home while letting far-left rioters roam free. The Biden Lockdown will mean no school, no graduations, no weddings, no Thanksgiving, no Christmas, no Fourth of July”
“We have more Cases because we have more Testing!”

>>16121839
Nov. 9, 2020
“If Joe Biden were President, you wouldn’t have the Vaccine for another four years, nor would the @US_FDA have ever approved it so quickly. The bureaucracy would have destroyed millions of lives”

Nov. 10, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 240,000

Nov. 11, 2020
U.S. hits a record 140,000 COVID-19 cases per day
Texas hits 1 million confirmed COVID-19 cases

Nov. 18, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 250,000

Nov. 19, 2020
Last Coronavirus Task Force press briefing under the Trump Administration.

Nov. 24, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 260,000

Dec. 2, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 270,000

Dec. 7, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 280,000

Dec. 8, 2020
“Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical time [for vaccine approval] could be infinity.”
Trump continues holding White House holiday parties despite guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to limit indoor gatherings and curtain travel amid the spike in virus infections. Masks are not required, according to guests.

Dec. 9, 2020
3,103 U.S. COVID-19 deaths in one day

Dec. 10, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 290,000

Dec. 14, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 300,000

Dec. 17, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 310,000

Dec. 22, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 320,000
“Distribution of both vaccines is going very smoothly. Amazing how many people are being vaccinated, record numbers. Our Country, and indeed the World, will soon see the great miracle of what the Trump Administration has accomplished. They said it couldn’t be done!!!”

Dec. 25, 2020
U.S. death toll passes 330,000

Dec. 30, 2020
As recently as mid-December, the Trump administration touted an ambitious goal: 20 million COVID-19 vaccinations by the year’s end. A CDC tracker shows only about 2 million people have been vaccinated so far.

>>16121844
>all vaccines that get approved for use on humans are somehow botched
>but the ones I can think of were all from china
well anon, either go and research your claim to see if it's relevant to the discussion, aka if clinical trials in the west are historically unreliable, or don't post unverified claims at all
>you're too ideological to admit the left is wrong
whatever made you believe that, you're off
I'm not from the US and I don't believe any politician or political party adheres to any ideology beyond the hunger for power, and your assumption that someone must be a lib if they'll argue the vaccine is safe enough and worth taking is disconcerting, because it offers you a reason to dismiss anyone's claims on the grounds of them possibly coming from someone who votes for the other side, which has nothing to do with anyone's health

>>16121839
January 1
U.S. surpasses 20 million confirmed COVID-19 cases

January 3
U.S. death toll passes 350,000

January 3
“Something how Dr. Fauci is revered by the LameStream Media as such a great professional, having done, they say, such an incredible job, yet he works for me and the Trump Administration, and I am in no way given any credit for my work. Gee, could this just be more Fake News?”
“The number of cases and deaths of the China Virus is far exaggerated in the United States because of @CDCgov’s ridiculous method of determination compared to other countries, many of whom report, purposely, very inaccurately and low. “When in doubt, call it Covid.” Fake News!” Fauci responds, “"The deaths are real deaths. All you need to do is go out into the trenches…”
Trump tweets, “The vaccines are being delivered to the states by the Federal Government far faster than they can be administered!”

January 4
CDC reports that 4.6 million people have been vaccinated.

January 6
U.S. death toll passes 360,000
Trump mob storms Congress. Officials reported at least 3,963 new coronavirus deaths in the US, a new single-day record.

January 9
U.S. death toll passes 370,000

>>16121839
January 12
HHS Secretary Alex Azar announced that the federal government would begin releasing vaccine doses that had been held in reserve for second shots, but no such reserve existed. His false announcement raised false hopes among state and local officials.

January 13
U.S. death toll passes 380,000

January 14
The Trump administration promised to have 20 million people given their first shot by the end of 2020. Two weeks later, they have administered just over 11 million.

January 15
12 million doses of vaccine administered.

January 16
U.S. death tool passes 390,000

January 18
Washington Post reports that emergency PPP loans were provided for organizations that spread misinformation about coronavirus and vaccination.

January 20
Each day in January, covid-19 killed an average of 3,100 people in the United States — one every 28 seconds.
Trump's term in office saw over 25 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States, over 400,000 of which resulted in death.
President-elect Joseph R. Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris are sworn into office.

>>16121982
oh my god trump made america have the first widespread vaccination program in the world, how terrible

>>16121965
>fake news
lol. It's literally all shit that Trump said on camera.

>>16122002
>lol. I...literally...shit...on camera.

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Are you 12?

>>16122078
this dude could be 12 and his contributions to this thread are still far more respectable than yours

>>16122078
but those are literally the letters and words you typed up and posted on 4chink

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LMAO TRUMPTARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH, IMAGINE TRYING TO DEFEND THIS MESS AND PRETEND IT WAS GREAT TOO!! HAHAHAHAHAHA MAGOTS LITTERALY CHOKING ON TRUMP'S DICK WHILE THEY SMILE AND CHEER!!!
>s-source??!?!?
>i-it was the d-democrat's fault!
>f-fake news!!
LMAO WHAT A BUNCH OF STOCKHOLM SYNDROME BITCHES GOOD LUCK CLAIMING YOU NEVER SUPPORTED HIM IN 15 YEARS LIKE YOU DID WITH BUSH YOU LYING COWARDS!!!!!!

>>16122127
This, but unironically.

>>16122149
i don't think these people are capable of irony

>>16119830
nanobots. duh. you probably just read fake news so you don't even know

>>16119830
sure. We didn't need a vaccine to protect against a virus that didn't exist in the first place. The most reasonable response would have been to have restaurant owners to continue business as usual as there was no threat to anyone by doing so. Anyone who says otherwise is a authoritarian commie hack that needs to be burned at a stake.

>>16122127
Rent. Free.

>>16122281
>authoritarian commie hack
This, but unironically. If just got rid of the current batch of teachers, bureaucrats, lawyers, and politicians that would be a decent start.

>>16122314
Journalists as well of course sorry I'm a bit tired.

>>16119835
calm down schizo god doesn't exist

>>16122281
Based. A runny nose never killed anybody.

>>16120748
I’m genuinely not getting your thought process. Do you really think that everyone who disagrees with you is a tranny?

>>16119852
Just sign here and waive your right to sue us if anything goes wrong.

coronavirus hysteria was a great big overblown hoax to get Trump out of office. as soon as biden got into office they started dialing things back immediately, but now they have to keep up the charade and force this placebo vaccine that doesn't do anything.

i worked through the entire pandemic. business keeps going up, but we can't hire any new cooks because nobody wants to be a cook. it's a shit job with shit hours and shit pay. i just want a fucking weekend. TWO DAYS OFF. IN A ROW. fuck. i am drowning in overtime.

>>16119852
meds

>>16119852
Your retarded aunt on facebook looks at these links and believes them

>>16119830
What are we, cattle?

>>16119975
The covid vaccine is just antibodies

>>16119852
>when you go full schizo to the point of posting links from da joos

>>16119852
>townhall
>libruls live rent free in these people's heads

>>16120190
Viruses get software updates. New vaccines are just your antivirus software update.