/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I've had burgers what seems like every possible way and now I'm sick of them. Stop talking about burgers. They're bad.

>>16003616
no there the best kys

>>16003616
Shut the fuck up

>>16003662
I will not shut the fuck up.

>>16003616
>t. Biden and Greta's Bugmeat Initiative

>>16003674
I don't care if you eat them. You can eat whatever the fuck you want for all I care. Just don't be talking about this shit in my presence.

I'd be interested in suggestions, too. I usually do salt, pepper, garlic powder, and a dash of cumin when I make thin burgers. My father makes some decent 3rd pound burgers and he uses those seasonings and egg, breadcrumb, and oats to hold it together and keep it juicy (according to him).

American cheese is the correct cheese for an everyday burger, though. I'm 100% sure on that. Only change it up if I'm doing toppings that go well with another type of cheese.

>>16003672
Yes you will you cretin

>>16003604
pls respond i'm about to go to the grocery store.
was thinking of george forman grill or just a frying pan.
or i might end up eating tendies instead

>>16003686
I do salt, pepper, garlic powder, minced onion, and paprika. Grill medium rare, eat with deli mustard, mayo, and hot sauce, fried egg optional

>>16003604
i don't like burgers desu it tastes the same to me from whatever fast food joint to frozen prepackaged ones from the grocery store or if i buy fresh meat at the deli to make my own.

>>16003689
No, I will not.

>>16003686
>American cheese
what kind though?
deli or Kraft?

>>16003626
>>16003662
>>16003674
Americans have been getting a little out of hand lately.

>>16003722
singles slices melt better since they're just milk fat. this contributes to the fattiness of the burger if you're into that. if you want to taste cheese not just milk fat then deli

>>16003604
>What's the best ways to cook burgers?
In a pan: The patty needs thickness, but not too thick either. The patty needs to stay in the refrigerator until right before cooking. The pan has to literally be smoking hot at max power. Then you quickly sear each side in animal fat. This way you avoid cooking the burger more than bleu/rare.

>>16003725
Burgers are literally the perfect food you dumb euroshit

>>16003725
Stay mad
>>16003604
Onions, lettuce, pickles, salt and ketchup.

>>16003722
Well deli is better, but I do tend to buy whatever's on sale a lot of the time. I only use American for grilled cheese and burgers, but I eat burgers about once a week and grilled cheese is my go to quick snack so I eat a decent amount.

>>16003732
Jesus christ. I can hear that burger mooing

Electric Grill or Pan?

>>16003732
jack? that you?

>>16003754
sneed or feed?

>>16003744
>>16003686
Also for condiments and toppings my favorite quick thing is A1 and mayo when I don't have any of the burger sauce that I make. I like lettuce and onion, not a big pickle or tomato guy but that's just personal preference.

>>16003686
>My father makes some decent 3rd pound burgers and he uses those seasonings and egg, breadcrumb, and oats to hold it together and keep it juicy (according to him).
That's not a burger, that's a meatloaf patty.
>>16003706
Minced onion has no place in a burger, and not those other condiments either.

A hamburger should only have salt and pepper added to it. Some kind of liquid seasoning like worcestershire is arguably acceptable.

>>16003733
Whoa calm down. You'll get your monthly burger soon.

>>16003764
>Minced onion has no place in a burger, and not those other condiments either.
>A hamburger should only have salt and pepper added to it
Shut the fuck up

>>16003762
When a good tasting tomato and quality mayo mix in my mouth that is the single best condiment for a burger for me. Can't have a burger without that flavor.

>>16003773
That's what a burger is. If you add minced onion to it, it's not a burger.

>>16003777
Checked.

Also, I wish I liked fresh tomato and I can't really tell you why I can't stand it but like dried tomato, tomato sauce, and basically any cooked food with tomato in it. I do put ketchup in my burger sauce but it's too sweet to put on a burger by itself or even just 1to1 with mayo.

>>16003799
The beauty of burgers is how malleable and customizable they are. Shut the fuck up

>>16003812
>fresh tomato and I can't really tell you why I can't stand it
There seem to be a lot of people like you on the board. I don't know why I've never encountered them in real life. I'm always surprised by just how many people here seem to hate fresh tomatoes. My suspicion is just that they mean the hydroponic farm water balloons that don't have any taste. That's actually not surprising, and I don't like that either. Who would? Those things suck ass.

>>16003812
For the longest time I didn't like fresh tomatoes. Then I had an amazing toasted tomato sandwich and I was sold.
Branched out into raw tomatoes into salads etc. I think it's a rather acquired taste if you were never into them as a kid.

>>16003824
That's a good suspicion, honestly. There are tastes I like that I can't stand if they're not present in the right amount (weak beer or coffee is completely undrinkable for me, for example) and I think that's why I like the more concentrated tomato flavor but not the fresh ones my mother would buy or I get at fast food places that probably are shitty and tasteless.

>>16003821
Burger as the sandwich is very customizable. The patty is not. A burger patty consists of ground beef, possibly with salt and/or pepper and arguably a few other seasonings are allowed.

It's fine that you like to eat ground beef and onion-patties in a sandwich, but it's not a burger.

>>16003824
yes fake tomatos are shit, anybody with a brain must love a real juicy sun tomato

>>16003891
Stop making declarative statements about things you know nothing about

>>16003891
This got me thinking about what else I could put in the patty. I'm thinking minced jalapenos garlic and cheese. But maybe something more unconventional as well. I've seen minced mushrooms added. So maybe that. But maybe also minced anchovies or just caviar? I like the taste of those, and it's a strong flavor that you could taste even in small amounts. A mixture of salmon and beef? What else?

are any pre packaged seasonings good?

you guys pat your own or buy pre pattied?

>>16004107
The premade ones are rarely very good in my experience, I've always made my own

>>16003604
weber grill, salt and charcoal.

>>16003762
A-1 is made to taste like brown sauce. Brown sauce is what europeons put on rancid meat to cover up the taste when they went through hard times.

This is real, not even joking.

>>16003686

Why do you want to mix all that shit in a hamburger? If you must do it, add it in through the grinder while grinding rather than kneading it in afterwards.

The problem is that the more you handle the meat, the more you reduce the number of pockets in the meat that juices can collect and that means you lose flavor.

Minimal handling is the way to go for the best hamburgers. Do no more than it takes to make a rough beef patty. Any more than that and it goes downhill.

After it is cooked, let it rest so that the juices in those pockets solidify together a bit so that they don't run out when you bite into the hamburger. About 5 minutes should be enough.

>>16004412
Good tips. Although, I do like a little bit of the juice dribbling down my face. That's how you know it's a quality burger.

>>16004288
And barbecue sauce is to make horse meat palatable to former slaves. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it.

>>16004483
Horse meat just tastes like high quality lean beef. Spain knows this.

>>16004107
I do buy the premade patties
I'm not proud of it, but when I do burgers it's for breakfast so I appreciate something I can just slap in a pan.
Also, the ground meat is always a thick grind in my country, and trying to work it into patties by hand without overworking it just gives you a wormy texture.

>>16003616
>Screams in American

Pan or grill?
also what brand of pan you guys running?

>>16004147
>>16004519
what makes premade patties bad assuming both are unfrozen?
>>16004483
why would they feed them horses

Most fatty hamburger you can buy, drown it in tabasco sauce and form small, thin patties. Too thick is not better, holy fuck my dad has been making burgers on the grill for years and years and every time it's "you might want to nuke it in the microwave, some of em aren't cooked all the way" like holy shit dad your hamburgers have too much hamburger. Anyway, so you want to cook it in a pan on very high heat, sizzling, flip it once easy peasy put some american processed cheese on it and slap it on a bun. Done.

>>16004631
>feed them
I've had horse sausage once. It was lean, yeah

>>16003917
I'm right, and you're wrong. Deal with it.

>>16004631
Story goes that the super strong, sweet BBQ sauce was a way to make up for the blandness of horse meat. Horse meat would have just been cheaper, not forced on former slaves directly. Obviously the idea of a BBQ sauce in general is older than that and I don't know if it's even true (I know most of the sweetness of current BBQ sauce is actually a result of the depression and WWII).

I just brought it up because I don't see why the origin of a sauce matters as to whether I can enjoy something that started as a way to cover up bad tastes (wouldn't that mean it needs to taste especially good?). Brown sauces can be a bit overpowering, but that's why I mix it with mayo. My preferred burger sauce has no A1 though although it does have some Worcestershire.

>>16003604
>What's the best ways to cook burgers?
There is no one best way to cook anything. Period.

>>16004701
Okay. But let's fight about it on here anyway

>>16003764
>that's a meatloaf patty.
Fair enough. Doesn't stop it from being a nice meal.

>>16004693
horse meat is better than the flavor of beef. shhh, dont tell the americans.

>>16004094
montreal steak seasoning is basically what i use all in one bottle. my butcher likes to suprise me with seasoning blends on my meat, i just tell him to make whatever he thinks ill like.

>>16004693
is it me or did the slaves with good owners kind of have it better than modern wagies

what grocery store do you guys use?
>>16004805
how much does a pound of ground beef cost at a butcher anyway? and is it actually any better?

>>16004780
Americans have the best alternative anyway. Bison blows both horse and beef out of the water.

>>16004830
im not sure how much better it is than just buying packaged burgers from amazon. im not a very picky eater. its 7 dollars for 2 patties. its a lot more than those 12 dollar 12 frozen patty packs but those are fucking gross so i buy it fresh.

>>16004869
>not patting your own burgers
ngmi
>>16004865
it just tastes like good ground chuck but sweet.
not actually better just different.

>>16004869
who in the hell buys meat from amazon

>>16004821
"Good" owner dies or goes into dept. Slave sold to new owner. Wife and kids sold separately.

To put it politely : go fuck yourself.

>>16004830
>and is it actually any better?
Depends a lot on the butcher.

>>16005100
T.

>>16005100
Lmao kys Jamal
most of the owners where way too nice.

>sous vide
>"but anon it'll disintegrate"
>mix panko bread crumbs into the meat then form a patty
>throw it on a hot grill or pan to seer

>>16003772
>implying i'll follow the law and not have a bacon cheeseburger everyday

>>16005167
You need to stay in school, John.

>>16005081
>he doesnt grocery shop online
>>16005075
my level of cooking is putting things in pots and pans with lemon pepper

>>16005601
how can you not know hat to roll hamburger into a ball and then flatten it

sneed

they're best pretty plain maybe just salt and a couple seasonings with blue or cheddar

>>16003824
>>16003843
Sounds to me like just a preference thing, I know people that can't stand fresh tomatoes and I'd guess it's similar to but less pronounced like disliking the taste of broccoli or spinach.

>>16003604
Smash burgers are my favorite, just get a good bun. Make sure the burgers get crispy on the end and use 2 patties, put a piece of american or whatever cheese you prefer inbetween the patties after they are done and throw some good crunchy veggies on it with mayo or whatever on the bun and its great. Use whatever topping you like.