/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>16002229
Shropshire Blue

>>16002215
Every time a vegan makes a thread I go out on my back porch and shoot a squirrel. I don't eat it. It's just to ensure that every time these faggots feel a need to open their mouths it results directly in the death of an animal.

>>16002237
Lol u mad bro?

>>16002279
2010 called, it wants its joke and joke of a cause back

>>16002279
lol u mad bro?

>>16002279
>Lol u mad bro?

>>16002295
2010 called, it wants its joke back

>>16002237
imagine being such a reactionary faggot top kek

>>16002237
As a vegan, I can say it's not animals dying that's the problem. It's the disease bakery, resource wasting, price inflating situation that comes from factory farming for 7 billion zombies.

>>16002302
im also trans btw

>>16002215
Looks promising, tastes disappointing

>>16002215
>vegan cheese
Isnt that just mushrooms or truffles?

>>16002279
>2010 called, it wants its joke back

>>16002279
>>16002237
Rekt

>>16002215
If it doesn't have milk, then it isn't cheese.
Looks interesting though.

>>16002300
You are so fucking mad rn

>>16002215
>vegan something something that's not vegan at all
your mom's ass looks promising

>>16002237
bbbbbased

>>16002352
If only you knew how happy i am, cozy in bed and about to fall asleep. Im not the squirrel man but youre still a faggot

>>16002324
u mad too?

>>16002374
Never go to bed mad bro, it's not good for you.

>>16002375
Funnyjunk called, it wants its 2010 joke back

>>16002302
A squirrel died because of you. I hope you’re happy...

>>16002385
Thats weird to even think about, ive gone to bed worried and stressed but i dont think ive gone to bed mad since i was a little kid. Anyone have stories?

>>16002215
Sorry but can’t make cheese without its most basic ingredient.

you think you're better than me?

>>16002302
7 billion zombies and one heroic vegan who musy single handedly stop them all.

>>16002237
10/10 post by a 10 IQ poster

>>16002970
I wonder if cashew is popular for vegan cheeses because of the bits of burnt off workers fingers get on them

>>16002302
>7 billion
I thought there was 300 billion people in the US, how can only 7/300 eat meat? It seems like you don’t understand statistics

>vegans
>using a general on /ck/

>>16002237
Hue, based
>>16002302
He's wasting resources
As a heterosexual I can say I sure am tired of hearing from vegans

>>16002999
This stuff is terrible and turned me off of any other vegan "cheese" forever. Also it isn't "cheese" if it's aged cashews, it's just fermented cashews.

>>16002302
So vegan cheese is cheaper at market and more efficient to produce than cow cheese with comparable nutritional content?

>>16003009
Probably took a whole stimulus check to buy all this fermented nut and oil paste

>>16003029
vegans are mentally ill, logic doesn't work on them.

>>16003029
Of course not, inb4
>It would be if more people consoomed it
it's also possible for normal people to make and store cheese, whereas nut paste is very expensive and requires much more water and material than, say, one female goat or cow which will provide material indefinitely

I'm not even crazy about cheese. But I don't believe this is cheese. When I eat it, I mean. It's something. It tastes like something. But that something is even less interesting than cheese usually is for me. Doesn't matter how high quality it is.

>>16002215
Is milk from a consenting human woman vegan?

>>16002215
Uhm.. that's not supposed to look like that, like wtf

>>16002302
just because the meat industry isnt fucking perfect doesn't mean the solution is to abstain from all animal products. thats just fucking retarded buddy.

>>16003066
You're right, it's not, it's fermented nut and oil pastes. Cheese is made from dairy.

>>16002215
Vegans are obsessed with what they can't have.

>>16003066
My ex brought home some vegan cheese her sister said tasted good. I looked at the ingredients and it was 34% oil and rest mixture of water and some food regulators. I tried some slices on a morning sandwich as it was supposed to be like gouda and frankly it tasted like water and oil, would not recommend.

>>16002302

To be honest, I'm not really concerned about animal welfare. Neither that much about environmental issues concerning factory farming.

Selfishly, I just want to not die from the #1 most likely cause of death for me, which is heart disease. I just want to lose weight and feel great.

I'm vegetarian actually, not vegan. Vegs have wonderfully lower blood pressure. I mean everyone knows eating too much meat (especially artery clogging animal fat), eggs, cheese, deep-fried french fries, sugar-loaded foods, processed foods, etc. are obviously bad for you.

It's about moderation. Maybe some day I'll have a steak once or twice a year or something. It's about making small or medium or big changes. It's about wanting to get /fit/, lower blood pressure, lose weight. It's about reversing type 2 diabetes. It's about preventing and treating heart disease and cancer.

It's about curing constipation (1 bowel movement a day is very marked constipation) and resetting that gut microbiome flora, which can clear the blood, body, and mind.

It's about clearing out many possible backed up meals, which can poison the gut microbiome and reverse poison the entire system. This is one of the most overlooked, very possibly almost universal, causes and aggravators of dis-ease and illness. Some people are more concerned about frequently changing the oil on their cars than clearing out and changing their poisoned gut microbiome flora, flushing out the bad and planting/inoculating the good, one way with probiotics for example.

It's about 3 massive glorious bowel movements a day from eating tons of salads, fruit, fiber, seeds, nuts, and an occasional beyond or impossible burger or three. It's about clearing up your liver, your burdened kidneys, your skin. It's about cold & lukewarm showers in the morning to cure morning sluggishness and depression.

It's about still going hunting & slaughtering animals for others even if you yourself don't. And a lot of the food tastes like meat.

>>16002215

The simplest kind you can make is the block and wheel cheeses from skye conroy.

The tl;dr is you blend a bunch of stuff together (soy milk, melted refined coconut oil, tapioca starch, kappa carrageenan, and various flavorings), cook it to 175F, quickly whisk in acid ingredients (like lactic acid powder or apple cider vinegar), then pour into a mold and let set. It gets better if you age it for at least a few days.

I'm all for eating less meat, or even none, if that's your thing, but these vegan fake-originally-non-vegan thing, I just don't get it.
Either you go vegan, or you don't.
If you can't live without meat or cheese, maybe being a vegan just isn't for you.
As it is, it just seems like it's the same shit as catholic priest do:
>Hm, not allowed to marry or sex a woman
>Hey, those choir boys over there, doesn't say anything about those!

>>16002302
Just hunt your own animals then

>>16003239
You know a lot less than you think you know. Your brain is filled with popscience rubbish. Go outside

>>16003409
No because hunting wrecks the environment. Hunters are intensely destructive to the local fauna. Hence we no longer have wolves to manage the deer and boar which run rampant

>>16002215
>Hey bro have some of trans fats mixed with xantham gum and chemical preservatives and stabilizers
>What? No its totally healthy, its made from nuts bro!

This is not cheese, its just some hybrid frankenstein hummus mixed with crap. I dont even eat meat everyday but god damn i hate vegan faggots so much.

>>16003721
Don’t care stay mad. Everything has all those things listed anyway nowadays
T. Veganfaggot

>>16002305
How is one supposed to eat it? Not the mold too..right?

>>16003654
>we
Americans you mean

>>16002302
based

>>16003735
Maybe if youre a flyover faggot who doesnt know what real food is. Real cheese doesnt come preshredded in plastic bags with a laundry list of ingredients.

>>16003654
Wolves are gone because of ranchers, not hunters. Hunters are necessary unless you want gay predatory animals in your faggoted shithole suburb

>>16004027
Wait a minute, didn't the 7th day adventist study actually say fish eaters were overall the healthiest?

>>16002388
Why are you mad though?

>>16004027
>>16004037
>vegans are also christccks
pottery

>>16002237
Nobody cares about squirrels man
you've got to keep them under control

>>16003239
tl;dr

>>16004031

https://adventisthealthstudy.org/

That was for one or two particular metrics, I forget which one. I believe that since these studies were done over decades ago, and before this modern era, plant sources of Omega-3s (DHA, ALA, EPA) might have been lacking in non-pescotarian diets.

Fish of course are high in Omega-3s. So are plant sources of Omega-3s, like Flaxseed and Chia Seeds and so on. And of course, in recent history, foods such as Flax and Chia and Hemp Seeds and so on have become increasingly mainstream, available, and popular, much more than in previous decades. This might be a factor in why pescotarians fared better in certain metric(s).

>>16004078
MEAT EATERS BTFO
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?

>>16003940
>i want gay predatory animals in my faggoted shithole subhurb

>>16004071
But isn't it difficult for many people to convert the Alpha linolenic acid into a more bioavailable DHA?

Another thing that has me scratching my head, if loma linda university funded these studies, don't they have a conflict of interest considering loma linda is a 7th day adventist funded university, and vegetarianism is a major part of their religion?

>>16004091
Easy, bypass surgery is much less traumatic than it used to be.

>>16004116
Shut up, carnist.

>>16004127

Vegan diet usually works pretty well for me but cheese is one of those things that just don't.
Even the higher priced ones taste just bland and fatty. The cheap ones are usually made of coconut oil which you can absolutely taste no matter how much it's claimed you can't.
People who like vegan cheese probably also think pic related is acceptable cheese.
I still have hope though, maybe some traditional cheese makers will get into trying plant based options.

>>16004186
why the fuck would a traditional cheese maker get into vegan cheese? That would be like a wine maker getting into making grape juice.

>>16004221
More like a wine maker getting into cider.

>>16004116

Maybe some might choose to eat a piece of fish once or twice a month or supplement with fish oil capsules. You could try plant-based sources of Omega-3s and then get checked out by a doctor. I wouldn't obsess too much over it.

There are many many studies out there and more being performed every year. Here's a short-cut. Proof is in the pudding. If you want to know the healthiest diet and lifestyle, simply find the people on this earth who live the longest, and figure out why. Some of their children are living less longer, eating more modern fast-food and so on than their long-lived grandparents. Check out those documentaries like Forks Over Knives and so on it seems almost everyone's seen already.

The future is plant-based. They got the burger down as far as I'm concerned. I just hope they speed up and make vegan Rib-Eyes and Filet Mignons and Salmon and Sushi that could fool someone blindfolded. Until then, I maybe might have a cheat day for a special occasion later this year. Or a cheat week, heh. But I don't really miss it, still ten thousand options that are plant-based, creative, and delicious. Dr. Kellogg (Seventh-Day Adventist, of Corn Flakes and world-wide Health & Sanitarium Fame) has said, in regards to alcohol, it's better to have a bender once every couple of months, than to be a moderate drinker. Read an article some time ago, smoking even one cigarette a day is bad for you, and I'd guess worse than binge-smoking two packs once a year. But honestly, they've got vegan chicken and burgers and so on that could fool anyone, and I don't at all feel deprived.

>>16002279
my mom called, she wants u to shut up >:(

>>16004221
Because there's money in it.
A lot of meat manufacturers are into making vegan/vegetarian alternatives too. And it has improved the overall look and taste of meat alternatives a lot.

>>16003239
huh?

>>16004234
Didn't forks over knives get in trouble for making false statements like "eating an egg is the equivalent to smoking x number of cigarettes"? They even had to retract that statement and many others.

Why would I try to get any information from propaganda? That's like trying to educate yourself on POC from watching "the birth of a nation" or something.

Finally, I can't be a vegan for health. Lets say I try a vegan diet, and my health falls apart like when I was vegetarian, and only gets better when I reincorporate meat back into my diet? And then lets say I actually find the more meat I eat, the better I feel? Now what?

Tons of vegans have been saying I literally cannot be vegan for health, it has to be for the animals. But which animals? The domestic animals that will go extinct because they would allegedly be rendered obsolete? Or the wild animals who would also go extinct because most human crops require tons of water, artificial fertilizer (since there would be no manure), and pesticides? Wouldn't I just be funding the multi billion dollar crop protection industry?

nah senpai, I'm just gonna keep working on expanding my garden and livestock. I even have some pasture I am restoring for grazing animals soon.

>>16004027
god i love having blood pressure

>>16004255
Nah senpai there is more money in just making high quality cheese. Nuts are expensive and time consuming to produce, process, and considering the most popular vegan cheeses are made with coconuts and cashews, import. I am growing a bunch of hazelnuts, with a plan to have about 125 bushes total. But I wouldn't turn them into cheese, what a waste! I'd turn them into maybe Nutella or some other shit. Maybe just straight up sell the nuts.

If I wanted to make cheese, I'd get a cow, sheep, or goat.

>>16003819
Europeans also almost wiped out their native wolf populations.

>>16004281
That's why I think the perspective of a cheese maker could be relevant.
Someone who makes cheese wouldn't nessecarily think you'd have to use nuts, maybe they'd think of other plant based ingredients, other methods...I don't know.
But i sure as hell would be willing to pay good money for a nice slice of vegan cheese.

>>16004324
It wouldn't work. The complex chemical processes that make dairy cheeses flavors and textures so rich and complex go deep. The relationship with enzymes, rennet, acids, bacteria's, and of course where and how the cheese is aged just simply could not be replicated with plants. Animals just aren't plants and we need to accept that.

>>16002302
you would have an order of magnitude more positive impact by supporting ethically produced animal products than by completely abstaining and buying plant substitutes that contribute to habitat destruction and thirdworlder exploitation.

>>16004267

That egg and cigarette smoking statement I'm not aware of, I doubt very few doctors and experts have 100% of everything perfect. But the overall findings of The China Study and even the particular individual American cases they highlighted in that film, shows what can be possible.

It sounds like for me, that since you have pasture and will be able to raise your own healthy animals, with your own organic garden as well, that that would be a wonderful road for you to take.

It must be stressed how important it is to have a intelligently and properly balanced vegan or vegetarian diet. Many make the mistake that because they put off meat, that they can take many liberties, almost as revenge, or compensation, that they are entitled to eat whenever they want, whenever they want, and more and more for example.

I can't go over all the dietetic errors here, but I would recommend reading, browsing, perusing the book, "The New Dietetics" by Dr. John Harvey Kellogg. All of his books are now free domain and available online. It's a masterpiece, and covers many common dietetic errors and issues on health, and is a fascinating, fast, easy, and engrossing read. That brilliant man is one of the reasons why Seventh-Day Adventists are one of the longest lived and healthiest groups of people on this earth. He was kind of in a way, like the Tesla of Medicine. Invented a lot of things, wrote a lot of books.

I'll save you a few clicks. You can't download the entire PDF here, but the book is free domain so you can download it on a different website, it's easier to read through an offline PDF than use hathitrust for me, kind of sluggish. I suppose I ought to try to find that too now, heh, but here's the online-only Hathitrust version: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015038770965&view=1up&seq=33

Should be fully downloadable here somewhere, different file types: https://archive.org/details/newdieteticswha00kellgoog/page/n5/mode/2up

>>16004335
>Animals just aren't plants and we need to accept that.
Absolutely. But I do think there's a lot of room for improvement and the dairy industry could maybe provide some insight.

>>16004359
Dr. John Harvey Kelogg? You mean the eugenicist sex phobe who poured carbolic acid on and even sometimes surgically mutilating children's genitalia?

Maybe you should really take a step back and reassess your life?

>>16004373
Do you think "the dairy industry" is a single person or something? No two dairies are going to be the same. It's actually kind of silly when you look into it. This one guy did a goat dairy and some of his customers were vegans because they realized it isn't required by law to mistreat animals to get excess milk from them. He preferred the kid fed off the mother, and only bottle fed when the mother wouldn't accept her baby. He said the mother raised kids were bigger anyways.

Maybe you should like do unbiased research, and not just look at the worst farms ever for information. Thats like assuming all dogs come from puppy mills, or all marriages are abusive, just because some are.

>>16004378

Carbolic acid is also known as Phenol. From Wikipedia on some of it's medical uses:

Medical
Phenol was once widely used as an antiseptic, its use pioneered by Joseph Lister (see History section).

From the early 1900s to the 1970s it was used in the production of carbolic soap. Concentrated phenol liquids are commonly used for permanent treatment of ingrown toe and finger nails, a procedure known as a chemical matrixectomy. The procedure was first described by Otto Boll in 1945. Since that time it has become the chemical of choice for chemical matrixectomies performed by podiatrists.

Phenol spray, usually at 1.4% phenol as an active ingredient, is used medically to help sore throat.[31] It is the active ingredient in some oral analgesics such as Chloraseptic spray, TCP and Carmex, commonly used to temporarily treat pharyngitis.[32]

>>16002970
>>16002953
>>16002215
What you made is closer to moldy, yeasty marzipan than cheese.

>>16004373
The dairy industry consists of local farmers selling milk to companies who in turn sell the milk to stores and such within a region.

Creating artificial competition will not change anything due to just how heavily subsidized the farmers are as is. If you want changes in the industry you have to go to the government not buy nuts.

>>16002237
Based

>>16002215
a food consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey

>>16004397
I was looking for a term that described a branch that uses animal milk to provide food made out of it. It was not meant condescendingly.

>>16004378

PLAIN FACTS
FOR
OLD AND YOUNG.


BY

J. H. KELLOGG, M.D.,
MEMBER AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION,
AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE,
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF MICROSCOPY,
MEMBER MICH. STATE BOARD OF HEALTH,
MEDICAL SUPERINTENDENT OF THE BATTLE CREEK SANITARIUM,
AUTHOR OF NUMEROUS WORKS ON HEALTH, ETC.


https://www.gutenberg.org/files/19924/19924-h/19924-h.htm


There's always at least two sides to a story. Hear the other side and decide for yourself.

>>16002237
yeah im thinking based

>>16003239
Bro just put the fork down once in a while, no need to be so drastic to lose weight lmao

>>16004474
You should look into what he said about performing surgery on blacks without anesthetic.

>>16004474
>the Jewish law required the removal of the prepuce, which constituted the rite of circumcision. The same practice is followed by several modern nations dwelling in tropical climates; and it can scarcely be doubted that it is a very salutary one, and has contributed very materially to the maintenance of that proverbial national health for which the Jews are celebrated. Eminent physicians have expressed the opinion that the practice would be a salutary one for all men. The maintenance of scrupulous cleanliness, by daily cleansing, is at least an imperative duty.

Heaven forbid we bathe, no mutilate yourself goy.

>>16004234
>Citing Dr. Kellogg
Dropped. Gonna go and eat a burger now

>>16004499

I would really need a source. I'd really like to read that. Dr. Kellogg fostered 42 children, legally adopting at least 7 of them, many of them African-American children. He was not a racist, and spoke well of all races from around the world in his beautifully illustrated book "Sunbeams of Health and Temperance", taking a trip around the world, praising highly of the Japanese, Africans, Middle-Easterners, Polynesians, Maori, Native Americans, Indigenous Peoples, etc. and more.

I'm a big fan of proper quoting and sourcing. Here's a list of his books online: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Kellogg%2C%20John%20Harvey%2C%201852%2D1943

And the book I referenced. This one you can download the PDF completely:

Sunbeams of health and temperance :
an instructive account of the health habits of all nations ... affording both entertainment and instruction for young and old.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark:/13960/t6h13kr6c&view=1up&seq=9

>>16004526

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

>>16002350
what if it has oatmilk?

>>16004552
Dude, it's not safe to hit the Special K so hard

>>16003842
>flyover faggot
>the people who actually make cheese
I swear this flyover meme gets more retarded with each person who uses it. They aren’t milking cows on the Jersey shore, brayden.

>>16003239
>wanting to get /fit/
>wanting to
haha

>>16002237
Based and redpilled

>>16004574
Youre implying the cheese you make is good, how many brands of cheddar do you need Cletus?

>>16002237
be careful not to cut yourself on that edge

>>16002237
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>16004474
go suck another dick adam.

>>16004359
>almost 1000 pages
cringe

>>16002215

That's moldy nut butter

>>16004552
>I'm a big fan of proper quoting and sourcing.

Yeah, I can tell, you lack any sort of independent thought whatsoever. A perfect specimen for becoming a cult sheep.

You have my pity. Hope you get better soon.

>>16003654
>we no longer have wolves to manage the deer and boar which run rampant
Damn, if only there were a way to curb the population of prey animals while simultaneously benefitting from their killing.

>>16004906

I think you might like this book better. Question & Answer format, rapid-fire, each answer short and to the point, and intensely interesting. Extremely ahead of it's time, ahead of the medical profession even today. Make for a great coffee-table book. Since it's free domain anyone can print it and you can buy copies on Amazon, look for a hardcover.

You can read it online on Hathitrust or download the entire thing as a PDF, which I recommend doing, quicker and easier to flip pages:

The health question box :
or, a thousand and one health questions answered /
by J. H. Kellogg.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nnc2.ark:/13960/t3gx5307s&view=1up&seq=9

This book is going to be really famous and popular again soon. I guess you guys can be the new firsts again. There is nothing new under the sun.

>>16005251
Thanks anon

>>16005210

I'd welcome you to read them and if you have any questions whatsoever, feel free to e-mail and contact the folks at the Weimar Institute (Weimar.edu) or many other similar places. Each place is a little different and they have licensed doctors, physicians, nurses, chefs, and staff.

>>16005251
Kelloggs was a fucking asshole. I literally don't see the appeal, but considering the Adolf Hitler fanboys all over this site I guess a Kellogg stan shouldn't shock me.

>>16005273
Why would I read this shit?

>>16005281
queer

>>16002215
>Claiming to be a vegan while being on the internet
I bet you use a mobile phone too and think you're still vegan?! Fucking lying hypocrite, you're just a vegetarian.

>>16005281

He was actually greatly beloved and was the most famous doctor in America. Treated several U.S. presidents and even Abraham Lincoln's dear wife.

"Dr. Kellogg also lectured, wrote books and edited a magazine, becoming a celebrity doctor whose admirers and patients included several U.S. presidents, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Amelia Earhart, Sojourner Truth and many others. Also among his patients was Ida Tarbell, the foremost investigative reporter of her day and a woman unlikely to let a charlatan go unexposed, let alone be personally treated by one."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/dr-kelloggs-world-renowned-health-spa-made-wellness-titan

>>16005342

I mean without him, we wouldn't have cereal and milk, granola, peanut butter, many things that helped to shape American health and life.

The tide did change, fast food and the epidemic of obesity and health problems we now face seem insurmountable. Doctors just prescribing more and more pharmaceutical drugs, surgeries, and pills, ignoring the fundamentals of health and nutrition. It's as if there was a period of light that shone through, then an age of darkness when the food & pharmaceutical companies won (Dr. Kellogg never wanted any sugar in his cereals), only for the light to shine again once more. Seasons.

And like the seasons, the tide is turning back again. Plant-based is the future, and it was the past. And it's now.

>>16005396

This might come up and he did many more things of greater magnitude, but a bit of trivia everyone gets wrong. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, according to the National Peanut Board, invented Peanut Butter. But really, he did so much more than that.

>>16005421
niggerbros...

>>16002970
>that'll be $14, please

>>16004091

>>16002215
Kill yourselv--

Oh wait, you already are LOL

>>16005576
rekt

>>16005576
OH NO NO NO, VEGGIEBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>16002970
looks like soap

>>16003239
If you want to get /fit/ go lift faggot

>>16005396
We all got fat because we told people to eat 6-11 servings of bland, unsatisfying, nutrient devoid grain, most of which is used to fatten livestock and be used as fodder for slaves, because an uptight pseudo intellectual with celebrity status pushed it onto people that it was somehow healthy.

Ensure was a better invention for the sick and infirm than cereal or peanut butter.

Kellogg was a quack. It's okay, many doctors are, and the public gets fooled by them. The world is worse off. Plant based will not be the future, if anything, people will learn that just having a closer connection to their food in general is the true key to good health, not industrializing things further.

The world will never go plant based. It simply cannot.

Are you a 7th day adventist, by chance?

>>16005576
this. vegetables are full of corn syrup and soy and shit, essentially poison.

>>16002215
Why does it look like a fucking geode

I eat old croc because it tastes good and recently I found out its vegan. So it seems to be going quite well.

>>16002215
yeah the cheese on my dick

>>16005576
These are more like a scale of how much sugar and other refined carbs you eat. It's about arterial scarring and inflammation from processed carb junkfood.

>>16002215
that looks really gross

Vegan food--except no beans, lentils, peas or cashews, please

>>16002215
Hello anons. I have been gathering a list of vegetable essentials for a quality life.
I'm a NEET who ate a lot of tendies.
Right now I'm at age 25, and realizing I gotta change my eating habits before it's too late.
Anyone here have good sources on fundamentals of making dishes?
Not necessarily looking for recipes, but rather just get a good foundation of what are good combinations and what aren't.
My ultimate goal is blood vessel expansion. I want my arteries and veins to pop out to the point people will think I'm on gear(I'm not). Leafy greens are great nitric oxide boosters.
>>16002237
Personally i don't care about animals getting killed. What does get on my nerves is that most don't know how to kill them properly. When an animal is dying they release certain hormones on their body, making the meat taste shittier. It has to be an instant kill. It actually makes want to go hunt instead of buying the meat from the supermarket
>>16002970
looks tasty
>>16003026
What makes a cheese vegan?
So far the only acceptable cheeses that i found to be ok is cottage cheese, and some type of parmesan(forgot the name)
>>16003239
Well said

>>16006239
Losing fat and lifting weights is a great way to look vascular. When I was strict keto with tons of animal products (mostly meat and eggs with some butter and a bit of cream, with lots of fibrous non starch veggies) I was at peak vascularity.

The trick is to track your calories. Animal fats and proteins promote satiety.

Hunting is fucking stupid unless you are a really good shot. If you miss and that animal gets away, it will suffer more than what an animal in a shithole slaughterhouse does.
If you want properly raised and slaughtered meat contact a local farmer in your state and see if he can do at home slaughter, then buy a whole animal. On a low carb, high animal diet with lots of eggs and some high fat dairy like butter and cream, a whole cow should easily feed you for 2-3 years. Make sure if he cant slaughter the cow at home the cow is sent to a NON USDA processing facility. I cannot stress this enough. There are only 800 usda inspected facilities in the country, they are overcrowded, and the animals have to travel incredibly far. More travel=more stress for the animal. Again, ideally you'd want an at home slaughter, and the carcass getting shipped off for processing. A 700 dollar chest freezer should easily hold an entire cow. You could probably find a used one for cheaper.

Good luck neet.

>>16006123
Can't be done.

>>16006271
>it will suffer more than what an animal in a shithole slaughterhouse does.
The animal will suffer more pain in death, perhaps. But at least the animal got to actually live, breathe fresh air, sleep under the stars and do all the things critters need to do. Factory farms are just a miserable and horrific extension of the spic-nig cycle. They need to be done away with entirely. Hunting can at least be b&r.

>>16006271
Same. I do keto, an hour of cardio daily, and lift every other day. Finally got the elusive bicep veins.

>>16006271
>>16006666
Why keto?
What's wrong with eating lots of carbs?
I get that there are different kinds of which some are bad, but i don't see why lots of it from vegetables or nuts are bad

>>16002237
Holy based. You're gonna be busy.

>>16002999
Reminds me of that 0 calorie pancake syrup, or the weird oil cheese that has to advertise that it now melts.

>>16006787
It's ok, I kill possums when I see it too. There's a whole network of us. We actually popped up forever ago when the best page on the internet was actually seen as good because vegetarians thought they could act smug and special because they opted to eat bugs and plants they live in instead of meat
Now been have vegans who 100% lie about what they're doing since they all use animal products daily and act like just because it's difficult or hard to avoid them that they still get to give themselves the title.
Basically if you claim to be a vegan you're a liar and if you can see this message on something you own that isn't a glass screen you're not vegan, you're just a liar

>>16006860
Also yes I'm fucking angry, I'm not sure what about but vegans are getting it because they deserve it for being nothing but a pack of pathologic liars who make excuses for why they are lying, but won't just call themselves vegetarians because that word doesn't have as much prestige as they want.

>>16006753
I do keto because I'm a special snowflake with type 1 diabetes. I could never get good blood sugar control eating carbs. The balance between insulin dosage, carbs, and enough exercise to be in really good physical shape was just too difficult for me to get right. Elite athletes often get type 2 diabetes later in life from carb abuse all those years in training. Low-carb is just better.

>>16006860
epic xDD

>vegan
So it's not cheese.

>>16002999
>Nut cheese
>Nut
>Cheese

>>16002215
>>16002229
>>16002236
>>16002237
>>16002279
>>16002289
You have a board for this
>>>/lgbt/

my only problem with "vegan" food is that it tries to be a substitute for other things

>>16006878

>>16002237
holy basedamundo
vegans eternally BTFO

>>16002970
mmm yaaaassssss! finally cruelty free cheese :)

>>16007256
I think that's owed to the fact that there are a lot of people who really like animal based food but aren't okay with the way said animals are being treated.
If there were no generations used to enjoying animal based products, we'd probably go about creating plant based food differently.

>>16002237
Youre the 4chan equivalent of a soyboy redditor

>>16002237
Seethe

>>16002215
Sriracha and cumin = lunchable taco meat flavoring

>>16003239
>One shit a day is constipation
I shit once every 4 days, y'all eat too much fiber

>>16007243

I am going to become the alpha powerful link in thehierarchy of duh food chain!!!!!
Proceeds to eat vegetarian prey that has to quadrupeds around just so it can be a coward faster.

Vegans are retards paying higher prices for food when all they care about is presentation and how it looks for their insta

>>16002237
But vegans don't care about animals, anon? Squirrel's life wasted.

>16002237 (You)

>>16008413
burn, but ok

>>16003388
It’s more like jerking off to shota porn instead of actually raping a little boy.

>>16008451
Are we all just pedophiles? Or are we talking about eating meat vs not eating meat?

>>16008497
Are you retarded?

>>16008511
I'm beginning to think you are

>>16002237
i'm vegan for health reasons dumbass not because of le animal killing

>>16008627
Most vegans would say you're not vegan, and that you are just a "plant based poser". They say this because if your health goes to shit you will go back to eating animal flesh and their secretions. You were never vegan for "duh animalz"

>>16002215
>mmmmmmm moldy pinesol

>>16008627
Very stupid. At least sheltered white kids that say yikes and are horrified at the sight of even a chicken getting butchered can excuse veganism with their mental illness. If you're interested in your health, you should be an ovo-pescatarian or whatever.

>>16008627
You're not vegan, you use a mobile phone = animal parts

>>16002237
haha

>>16002237
And then everyone clapped. Pics or GTFO.

>>16005583
Vegans live longer than non-vegans on average though.

Hello anons.
What are the best vegan/vegetarian youtube channels?

>>16006087
Source, ketotard?

Why are people so butthurt by vegans? Is it because vegans are not only humane but healthier according to actual studies?
Imagine being personally offended by someone not eating animal products

>>16009297
For recipes?

>>16009313
I don't like hypocrites/liars who claim a title that they haven't earned

>>16009405
What title?

>>16009418
Vegan

>>16007437
What am I looking at?

>>16009295
Who would live longer, an obese vegan who eats processed junk, smokes and drinks, or an obese omnivore who does the same? Answer: who gives a shit.

>>16009503
animal (indian) abuse

>>16009503
It's a cashew farm worker.
Ever wonder why you can't buy cashews in the shell? it's because they are actually in the same family as poison ivy, and the inside of the shells contain caustic oils that cause burns on the skin. Cashews mainly grow in India, where workers get paid very little to process the nut. Gloves can be provided but it slows down their work, and they get paid by weight, not amount of time they work. Their fingers will turn black and rot.

Also, raw cashews is bullshit, they all need to get heated in order to get rid of the caustic oil residue.

Also, this is common for lots of other crops. Many plants and agricultural chemicals have caustic properties to them that will cause severe physical and mental issues to workers.

>>16002302
Sounds like you should be killing people not eating vegan lol

>>16002237
Holy shit the SEETHING responses. You are one based fucking idiot and I hope you never run out of ammo. Fuck vegans and fuck athiests.

I'm vegan, and I am happy and confident

>>16009661
What religion are you in that condones this sort of petty and cruel behaviour?

>>16002237
Highly based

>>16009592
Not the one who asked but i actually learned something in this thread.
Thanks anon.

>>16009678
You're not even confident enough to eat animals, how the heck am I supposed to believe you?

>>16002237
based

>>16003416
based vegan chad

>>16002215
>>16002236
If I found something like that in my refridgerator, I'd throw it out and scrub the whole interior down with bleach.

That was my day yesterday. Now the fucking thing smells like Lemon Clorox.

>>16009313
It's because vegans are judgmental assholes who try to pressure others to adopt their mental illness.

>>16002237
Bro I hate vegan shills but this is a relevant. Don't be a cunt.

>>16011378
*relevant thread.

>>16011164
You should see the vegan shills on /fit/ claiming muh plant based is healthy. There's also a dude dude shilling bug eating.

>>16003239
eat right, exercise, don't drink, don't smoke, die anyways.

Also your genes are more responsible for heart disease.

also it's better to die quickly from a heart attack than to linger on in old age to be abused in an old folks home.

>>16002215
Yum

>>16009813
>implying Indians matter

>>16002237
based

>>16011888
I wouldn't want anyone to have their health endangered just so i can have some cashews. So yeah. They kinda do.

>>16013089
If everyone stopped buying cashews those women would starve, so it's sort of the lesser or two evils isn't it
Then again it is India so I'm guessing a guy is taking advantage of all the women who don't have a choice but to work for shit all money while he sits in his office and collects all the rupees.
If you ever watch business insider on YouTube or similar for all the traditional stuff worldwide you see heaps of cases of foreigners abusing the fuck out of women who have no choice on the matter
I'm not even that much of a bleeding heart but it is kinda shit, fuck I hate Indians males so much Bros. Why are they so fucking bad at being respectable humans?

>>16009295
yeah because vegans are mostly upper middle class urbanites in 1st world countries, now control that wrt quality of life

>>16005576
wtf george floyd was a vegan?

>>16004027
What the fuck is a semi-vegetarian?
You're either a vegetarian or you are not.

>>16002237
The hero we need.

>>16013284
They would starve or do something else.
You know, like they could collect mica in dangerous mines instead of their children? Or maybe india can hire people to clean up all their trash?

>>16002215
You just found that out? Milk has never been needed to make cheese, it was just the most convenient thing to use.

>>16014267
>Milk has never been needed to make cheese
yeah, fromunda needs no milk

Not eating meat really seems to touch a nerve

Gluten free since August 10, 2009.

21 years with undiagnosed Celiac Disease

23 years with undiagnosed sulfite sensitivity

25 years with undiagnosed mast cell activation disorder (MCAD)
Daughter: celiac and MCAD positive

Son: gluten intolerant
Father, brother: celiac positive

>>16014278
>21 years with undiagnosed Celiac Disease
How is this even possible? I thought people with celiac almost died from eating a piece of bread

>>16011164
Average carnist is a fattie that sits on his ass the whole day. Veganchads actually exercise. Of course they're more likely to get fractures, they move.

>>16014314
>Meat eater: lifts weights, gets swole, never breaks a bone.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEGGIEBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY!!!

>>16014203
Maybe they'll have some job opportunities once a few million die from covid. I mean it's in many peoples best interest there to spread it as much as they can, butt they should be spreading it to the wealthy too, not just the ones who suffer the most already

>>16002215
That is mold

Vegan cheese is not cheese. Soy/oat/almond milk is not milk.

What they are is refined cope.

>>16003239
>bought into the fiber meme

>>16003654
hunters purchasing game tags funds the majority of enviromental agencies budgets outside federal money
they sell as many tags a year as they need animals shot to keep the population stable
you're a retard

>>16003813
most of the taste is in the mold

>>16014602
>milk is only what doesn't trigger my autistic fits
Too bad you don't get to define words. Everyone calls it milk.

>>16009558
>>16009592
>>16011888
>>16013284
Asian Lives Matter!
>>16014381
>Plague gives workers more respecc and moneys
Probably true.

>>16009696
An athiest

>>16014602
And milk of magnesia, what the fuck? Magnesia is a cow now? Fuck vegans.