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How do you like your coffee?

>> No.15925063

French-press Plunger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

>> No.15925244

I've been enjoying dialing in my flair. I only drink one shot a day so it's taking a while. I also went camping this weekend and made a moka pot on my camp stove, that was pretty delicious

>> No.15925257

Is Dalgona purely a meme? It's disgusting

>> No.15925273

>>15925027
I like it black normally but sometimes a splash of Bailey's Irish cream or oat milk is good too. I enjoy experimenting with spiked coffee it's hard to make a bad drink.

>> No.15925297

>>15925257
Yes. Before tik-tok, the only people who whipped their instant coffee were Indians who can't afford real lattes.

>> No.15925388
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>>15925027
why yes I do like it instant, how could you tell?

>> No.15925393
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for me, it's kopi luwak

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15925396

in a can with some coke

>> No.15925400

>>15925388
This is my worst nightmare.
He could obviously fold me like a napkin and throw me aside, but I still think I couldn't keep myself from bullying him about the fannypack.

>> No.15925407

>>15925393
>the tourist trap of coffee beans
you belong on reddit

>> No.15925445

but looking back on my life I just dont know, anymore

>> No.15925449

I'll brew up some of that black honey in a bit.

>> No.15925531

French roast black, nothing added

>> No.15925825

After roasting my own beans, everything else tastes like shit, even fresh 3rd wave stuff, not to mention the lack of variety.

>> No.15925851

>get espresso machine
>can't find knockoff cups for it
fucking shitbag coffee companies and their idiotic patents.

>> No.15925873

>>15925851
>espresso machine
>cups

Wat

>> No.15925887

>>15925531
smoker detected

>> No.15925964

hawaiian coffee, y/n?

>> No.15925965

Me and a family member usually drink instant loaded with sugary non-dairy creamer and are complete beginners to actual brewed coffee, never even had an espresso or proper cafe stuff. I have been using a french press ($18/12oz bags pre-ground to the roasters stated french press grind before I shell out $350+ for a grinder and whole beans). I have tried 2 different offerings from them and both had the same problem, We would both describe it as weak/mild or "mellow" in my family members opinion right now when drank black. I don't know what roast they are as it doesn't say (one was apparently marketed as good for any brew method and thus I'm guessing medium, and the other for espresso which had a darker medium look at least from the whole beans I seen). There is very low bitterness or a slight bitter aftertaste that doesn't linger long, kinda bland almost like drinking a tea I guess if I had to describe it? if anything changes by tweaking it is either increased astringency, sourness, or acidity. Is brewed coffee just supposed to be low bitterness?


I have tried the following with the same ratio (34g to 480ml water, blooming with half the water so 240ml):
1m boom + 3 min steep
1m bloom + 3 min steep + stir at halfway (best results)
Hoffman method (same as above or a SLIGHTLY worse to both our tastes but takes twice as long and more with the only benefit being less silt which I don't care about)
1 min bloom + 4/5 steep (usually starts to taste shit after this point)
No bloom, 4 min steep
No bloom, no stirring, 4 min steep
etc.

Water temp is around 205 and I preheat the carafe. I've tried 14:1 and 13:1 ratios, I don't hear many people using lower most seem to be 16-17:1 which would just be weaker I'm guessing. Even when the beans are ~2 days pre-ground it's the same shit. I can't buy a good grinder ATM to try that because they're sold out and I'm waiting for a sale.

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When did you realize Kalita Wave 155 and 185 have the same bottom radius and the only difference is the height?

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>>15925027
Espresso tonic, Gibraltar, and recently I made iced coffee. 20 grams of coffee to 150 grams of water over 150 grams of ice. Used a Hario Switch. I don't like cold brew.

>> No.15926300

>>15925027
I quit coffee after my best friend died.

>> No.15926425

>>15925027
I started drinking coffee after my worst enemy died.

>> No.15926706

>>15925027
Old thread
>>15859857
>>15859857

>> No.15926712

latte macchiato

>> No.15926765

Right now drinking Jacobs Kronung coffee with milk and a teaspoon of sugar. It's kinda gross. I only bought instant coffee to try that Dalgona meme, and it wasn't worth it.
I usually like cappuccino made with my Bialetti or black Turkish in a Cezve

>> No.15926828

Lads I bought a moka pot how the fuck do you make coffee in this that doesn't taste like fucking vinegar, I've ground it as fine as I can and even tried pre-ground extra fine stuff

>> No.15927147

>>15926828
Is it too hard to follow any guide you see on a simple google search?
Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyBYuu-wJI

>> No.15927600

Dark roast with French press when I have time, regular method, or steepshot when in a hurry, black, no sugar. Sometimes with spoon of hazelnut ice-cream. Sometimes cold brewed overnight. I just try various beans from coffee beans seller, get them grounded but that might change soon. Got baited by the Reddit hipsters into weighing my coffee, turns out a spoon of coffee is not equivalent to another for different grind or different beans. Pretty obvious but I never thought about it.
Btw Mario from CAFICT is top comfy
>>15926828
If it's not the grind you're probably burning your coffee, what temp are you using?

>> No.15927606

>be me
>buys espresso machine
>great espresso
>steam milk
>turns into warm or bubbly milk
Anons how can I get it right? I keep messing it up.

>> No.15927748

>>15925851
are you complaining that you cant find little cups for espresso?
are you serious?
i honestly can't comprehend your fucking post

>> No.15927811

>>15925851
In case you haven't figured it out yet K-cups and single brew coffee pods aren't "espresso machines". People misunderstood you as not being able to find demitasse or cappuccino cups for use with actual espresso machines.

>> No.15927821

>>15925965
Nigga I ain’t reading all that shit

>> No.15927827

>>15925851
Lol you actually bought a Nespresso lmao @ ur life

>> No.15927828

>>15926300
Was your best friend the one making coffee for you?

>> No.15927846

>>15927811
I'm upset he thinks pods are espresso.

>> No.15927878

>>15927846
Ignorance was bliss.
>>15927821
My french press coffee tastes weak and lacks even moderate bitterness after adjusting the way I brew it, is this just how properly prepared coffee tastes if I've only had instant all my life?

>> No.15927950

>>15927147
Can confirm. This is a great guide

>> No.15928025

anyone here have a Decent espresso machine? thinking about pulling the trigger on it. I know I can get cheaper machines that are great quality, but this seems to be the "end game" when it comes to espresso.

>> No.15928057

>>15927878
there's no law about how to use a french press, if it's too weak and not bitter enough I'd double the coffee. your shit is pre-ground anyway, it's not like you can save it for later

>> No.15928109

>>15928025
I have some shitty hamilton beach one I got on craigslist for 75 bucks and I'm pretty happy with it

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>>15928109
Pic related

>> No.15928234

I got my hands on a Vietnamese coffee pot (Phin) since it looks like a fun little device to brew single servings.
What grind should my coffee be? I see mixed things online some swearing by coarse grinds and some calling for super fine espresso grinds.

>> No.15928244

>>15927606
What machine did you get?

>> No.15928248

>>15925027
I tend to make lattes at home - two shots, 2% milk, normal-ish sized mug. Oot and aboot, it depends on where I'm getting the coffee, and whether or not I'm paying. Black drip, flat whites or lattes in respectable joints, double-double at Tim's.

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>>15928244
I got the Gaggia Classic Pro. For its price point, i'd say its really good. Pulling off good shots is easy and you can modify it to make it better, but I'm probably not going to do that soon, as I don't want to void the warranty.

I just cant seem to steam the milk properly on it.

>> No.15928372

>>15925965
Good coffee is only "bitter" in a pleasant way, not at all like the state of instant. Your brew method and ratio sound fine so it sounds like you're just not used to the taste, but it's hard to tell. Why not just buy a cup of coffee from the roaster? Then you'll know how it's supposed to taste. Also
>$18/12oz
Overpriced

>> No.15928376

>>15926828
Are you using a light roast? Don't

>> No.15928391

>>15928262
I plan on getting this machine to make Iced Americanos, my drink of choice. Will monitor the thread for milk advice if any of my guests request.

>> No.15928399

>>15928262
are you steaming the surface, or submerging it right away? If the former, it might need a cleaning. If the latter, that's your problem.

>> No.15928440

>>15925965
French press coffee lets more oil through, it gives it more flavour and less bitterness. Some consider it a weak taste.
If you're accustomed to burnt instant which is more bitterness than coffee, this might be your problem.
Your technique looks good, but if you want more bitterness you can try lower grinds, more immersion time, higher temperature (especially that one, burnt coffee is bitter).
And I'd suggest you experiment with other forms of brews, you can probably do a pour over for cheap, or try to cold brew with your French press, maybe go to a starbucks and try different coffees. Basically develop your tastes, and come back later to see if you hate the French press brew. If so just keep drinking instant, coffee is meant to be enjoyed.

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>>15928025
Love my barista Express

>> No.15928563

>>15928234
Phins are moody bitches, you have to aim at a 5 minutes brew time, so pick your ratio then dial in the grind.

>> No.15928570

>>15928372
That was in my local currency, it is about $14.50 per 12 oz in USD. I would be trying out cafes here but Covid has them closed.

>>15928440
That makes sense, thanks. I enjoy the taste out of the press, I was just worried about a lack of caffeine extraction as I associate that with bitterness for some reason. I guess I'm going to have to get a grinder if I want to experiment at home. Any suggestions for at a ~$260 USD upper limit? Preferably one that can grind for good French press, drip, and espresso (I don't care about Turkish/Moka pot). Most reviews I've read on different electric models has them failing after 9-24 months which is kinda worrying. Not adverse to hand grinding if I get a lot more for the money (durability/consistency) and it can hold at least 34g of grinds in the chamber.

>> No.15928587

>>15928570
For manual grinder get a 1zpresso, JX is more than enough for French press and allows some other grinds. JX Pro if you plan to do espresso later, or K Pro even if you're feeling rich.
Commandante C40 is also often recommended.
For electric I have no idea, but you can watch James Hoffman videos about it.

>> No.15928593

>>15928570
>>15928587
My bad, half read what you wrote. Recommendations are still valid but don't necessarily answer all you addressed.

>> No.15928602

>>15925027
like i like my women.
covered in bees.

>> No.15928755

good hand grinders are rare at 30+ g. here is the info you need: pretty much all steel burr, double ball bearing hand grinders give around the same grind consitency and they can pretty much grind for any method, the rest is placebo effect, unless you want get one of the real expesive ones with hundreds of grindsettings (i.e timemore chestnut x) you are not getting much more for your money Comandante is pretty much the iPhone of handgrinders, tech is years behind and is only proped by the naive hipsters.

as far as espresso "dial in", the tamped coffee grounds are what gives pressure to the extraction, you can dial in either grind setting coffee dose or tamping force.

if you decide to wait for the expensive grinders to stock up, in the meantime you can get the cheap no ball bearing ceramic burr grinders for under $20 never pay more than that for that kind of grinder no matter the brand (specially not hario and bialetti), and if possible it has to have long threads to apply this hack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zrrVcHl4QI
but keep in mind the lack of ball bearing will fuck up the consistency, and the lack of sharp edges will make the grinding take a lot of time.

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In Italy we call this cafe avocado.
I made this with Kirkland Signature Super Premium Vanilla Ice Cream from Costco and it was really fantastic! The ice cream is an amazing deal btw, works out to $1.5/pint

>> No.15929294

>>15925027
>7am in germany
For me its sweet coffee with a morning wank

>> No.15929353

>>15928262
https://youtu.be/x5nOFirDRTo

guide goes pretty in-depth but theres also loads of tutorials on youtube that can teach you how to do it on a GCP

>> No.15929368

>>15925393
No it isn't

>> No.15929372

cold brew made in a pitcher, steeped for 24 hours
a little sugar and creamer, not a lot

>> No.15929380

>>15925965
French press sucks, buy a v60

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>>15928755
All grinders are electric if you use a drill

>> No.15929552

Is decaf coffe much worse than regular one? Have been getting really anxious lately and need to lay it off.

>> No.15929629

>>15929399
Limp wrists and a thinner wallet.

>> No.15929783

>>15925027
Went shopping, forget the milk.
>I dink mine with milk and some sugar
Adding milk powder tastes gay ;_;

>> No.15929858

>tried espresso, turkish, siphon, pourover, mokapot
Gonna try Aeropress now.

>> No.15930103

Cloves, ginger, cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamom... Are there any spices you like to add to your coffee?

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>>15925027
>How do you like your coffee?
I go back and forth. At the moment my daily coffee intake is an espresso followed by a flat white, I travel for work so then I'll drink pourover; but I'll go through phases where I'll drink exclusively filter coffee and won't touch my espresso machine for a few months.

>> No.15930111

>>15930103
Sometimes vanilla or cakao

>> No.15930137

>>15930111
Sounds tasty. Coffee+cacao=mocha right?
I realized I had ginger powder and other things laying around and it inspired me to experiment.
Usually I go with cinnamon though.

>> No.15930146

>>15930108
Nice thicc cup

>> No.15930148

>>15930137
>Sounds tasty. Coffee+cacao=mocha right?
Yes, if the coffee&milk&sugar ratio is right its very nice.

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>>15929201
>avocado
AFFOGADO?

>> No.15930325

>>15930146
It's nice to drink out of.

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>>15930176
No, it's supposed to be served in an avocado.

>> No.15930380

>>15930103
It doesn't happen much anymore because of the coof, but if I've got two or three people over, and I don't feel like making hangover lattes all god damned morning, I'll usually prep the coffee machine with a little cinnamon and some crushed almonds. Sometimes a lightly toasted little quarter nuggie, crushed poppyseeds and some cardamon just to kind of hint to the body that there might be some relief from the alcohol poisoning.

>> No.15930474

>>15930380
That sounds fancy. How do you make your hangover latte? Same ingredients but now machine?

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How do I get the same flavor making cold brew at home?

Stok has that weird earthy cocoa flavor. I love it.

>> No.15930845

>>15928563
I've used the grind I put in my french press and the coffee kinda drips through and is done in about 2 minutes. I know that's not how it's supposed to go but even for a fuckup it was a delicious brew.
I'll try using a finer grind as maybe that'll well up better in the filter and force a proper 5~ minutes brew time.

>> No.15930880

>>15930474
50/50 of the same black beans I use for drip with a slightly lighter roast, finer grind, 2% milk. Some brown sugar or agave in with the milk if they want some (or some triple sec, rum-orgeat, etc. liquor cabinet's fair game). If we got super polluted, a side of water, a salty breakfast, and a pinner of low-test sativa, usually in dark tobacco leaf, sealed with some thick sugar-agave syrup. With a lot of people, it's a pain though. I wind up all hungover, babysitting my loud-ass espresso machine as it tries to rattle the demitasses out of position. I don't smoke in the kitchen (or really inside at all if I can help it) or serve myself first, so I'm sitting there, sucking on a coffee bean, chugging water, praying for death for the world's longest 15 minutes... or I can just time the coffee machine to go off at 7am and stay warm til 11 - self serve at that point.

>> No.15930898

>>15930728
Cocoa flavours can either be a darker roast of a sharp, bright coffee (Central/South American sun-grown coffees tend toward that citrus-peel note just before the aftertaste), a mix of near green and med-dark of anything that's not too funky (not aged for a woodier/nuttier flavour or tortured to bring out more fruity or floral flavours), or a suspension of really fine coffee solids and oils.

tl;dr try a coffee/blend that's got more of a cocoa note to it.

>> No.15931460

>>15929552
Beans have to go through a special treatment to be made decaf and it's usually claimed that this process alters the flavor. You could try the happymug decaf beans, they claim the treatment they use doesn't alter the taste. Not sure how true that is but it's worth trying

>> No.15931677

>>15928025
Only get one if you're planning to pay for an overpriced smart scale as well, and you want to pretend to be a scientist and share charts and graphs that nobody on /ck/ will care about.

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>>15931677
Imagine being mad and poor.

>> No.15931870

Thoughts on the Steepshot?
Was looking at aeropress but it looks fine as well.

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>>15931870
MUST CONSUME.

well it looks harder to clean, other than that enjoy your plastics.

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>>15925393
>he actually fell for it

>> No.15932573 [DELETED] 

>>15925257
Yeah it's fucking putrid unless you're putting a metric fuck ton of sugar but youre better off making Cafe Cubano at that point

>> No.15932775

>>15931817
how do you like using the Decent for pour overs?

>> No.15932823

>>15931677
>overpriced smart scale
they suggest a $99 scale that pairs with it well, I would need a more accurate scale than my current one for pour overs anyway
>you want to pretend to be a scientist and share charts and graphs
dont give a fuck about experimenting and wouldn't share shit on here anyway. if I'm having to spend $1,500+ to get a somewhat good espresso machine, I might as well just spend the $3k and never have to think about doing any further upgrades at any point in the future.

>> No.15932885

>>15932823
Are you just starting out with espresso?

>> No.15932910

>>15932775
That's not a decent, just a lunar hooked up to the SEP app.

https://www.naked-portafilter.com/smart-espresso-profiler/

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>>15925396
why Coke hasn't brought money printing machine to the States is beyond me.

>> No.15933012

>>15932956
HR is too busy doing tokenism

>> No.15933024

>>15932956
>named after an American state
>not available in America

>> No.15933043

>>15933024
bigger joke is that a coffee drink is named after a English King

>> No.15933248

How do you choose your beans? Want to make some nice coffee with the French press with coffee shop beans instead of supermarket grounds. I have social anxiety and last time I went I just got overwhelmed with all the choice and fled...

>> No.15933358

>>15933248
Get a half lb of each if you can.

>> No.15933549

>>15932885
worked at a cafe for a few years when I was younger, have experience on la marzocco and slayer machines. been doing pour overs for over 10 years at home because thats all I could afford. stimulus checks and tax refund means if I'm ever gonna make the plunge into a machine for home then now's the time- hence also saying fuck it and going all out for the decent.

>> No.15933640

>>15933549
If you don't have an espresso-focused grinder, I'd get that first, then use whatever's left in your budget to buy a good dual boiler, or failing that, a good heat exchanger machine.

>> No.15933753

>>15933248
Experiment. Freshly ground at home before use is best if you have a burr grinder suitable for press, some have cafes with a tasting menu, worst case scenario you can have it ground by your roaster and try it ASAP the bag will probably be shit mid way through though at least in my experience so I'd taste it within the day and do any experimenting then. I was lucky and loved the first bag I tried that was stated to be "chocolate and toffee" notes but not the other 2 with flora/citrus/berry notes. Super market commodity beans are shit that is roasted to ash most of the time so keep an open mind over what coffee actually tastes like and keep trying new things. Your roaster probably has a site with recommendations, the ones in my area seem to cater to espresso and pour over crowd though. Nothing stopping you from putting it in a press, that's what I started with.

>> No.15933924

>>15933549
>been doing pour overs for over 10 years at home because thats all I could afford. stimulus checks and tax refund means if I'm ever gonna make the plunge into a machine for home then now's the time- hence also saying fuck it and going all out for the decent.
You obviously are financially illiterate and can't afford it. Get a gaggia or whatever you dumb wagie.

>> No.15933937

>>15933640
what criteria does someone have to meet in your opinion to necessitate purchasing the Decent instead?
>inb4 "nobody"

>> No.15933944

>>15933924
>You obviously are financially illiterate
no fucking shit, I'm about to blow $3k+ on a fucking espresso machine, but I actually can afford it now so I want to go ahead and just do it rather than getting a $1500 and regretting it years down the line

>> No.15933948

>>15933937
They need to make over $100k ($200k in California) and be active on reddit

>> No.15933956

>>15933937
Someone who's really into espresso and wants to tweak every tiny little detail. You keep logs, run experiments about how pressure profile X affects the flavor vs. profile Y, how does a 1 degree C difference affect flavor, etc. Basically, people who are dangerously autistic about coffee.
Alternatively, Instagram and YouTube content creators who want to flex their e-peen.

>> No.15933962

>>15933944
I bought a $1500 machine and sold it after 2 months of playing with it for $1400. I'm gonna get some pid single boiler next and be done with it. Pressure profiling is just a another thing to waste coffee dialing in imo. Best way to get delicious coffee is to buy delicious beans. I only drink 2 coffees a day these days now.
Do with this information as you will.

>> No.15933980

>>15933956
>>15933962
originally I was probably going to get a lever machine like the Cafelat Robot which is only $400. then the stimulus check + big tax return is burning a massive hole in my pocket and making me want to just say fuck it.

>> No.15933990

>>15933980
Yeah that sounds like a better idea or maybe the new flair. Spend the big bucks on a grinder if you wanna go full retard.

>> No.15933994

>>15933980
Or you get the Robot, see if you enjoy the process of making espresso, because frankly speaking, most of the process of pulling shots on the Robot is the same as a semi-automatic machine, then if you like it, you get a semi-automatic machine and sell your Robot.
Also, if you don't intend to make milk drinks, anything other than a lever machine or a good single boiler is a waste of money.

>> No.15934058

>>15933248
Look at the tasting notes, compare that to what I've liked in the past. Lots of roasters sell online anon

>> No.15934342

>>15933980
You'll go much further with a flair or gaggia and a $1500 grinder than you will with a $3000 decent and javapresse.

>> No.15934405

>>15925851
Pod is not espresso, you fucking dumb cunt.

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If you're on this thread and you are still using press/drip (or some reddit-tier idiocy like areopress) instead of a proper espresso machine, then you seriously may as well just kill yourself right now.

>> No.15934434

>>15925027
V60 for me. I have a 1ZPresso recently and it's a crazy big upgrade from the Encore I've had for a couple of years.

>> No.15934465

>>15934433
>being such a basic bitch that you're wedded to only one coffee method

>> No.15934563

>>15934434
What model?

>> No.15934752

>>15934434
>$200 for a manual coffee grinder
Can you even attach a drill to it?

>> No.15934758

what is the ferrari of espresso machines?

>> No.15934787

>>15934752
Kek.

>> No.15934827

>>15926828
>>15927147
>>15927600
I am the moka pot anon if any of you are still interested, gather around and hear my tale.

I now have good beans, it turns out, this was not the limitation. The coffee I make is noticeably better, but there are still some issues. Like the video that was posted, you want your coffee to flow through the moka pot at that rate, and with that consistency. If it starts to flow like that, then speeds up quickly, your puck has channeled. You now have coffee that is bitter, acidic, and underextracted at the same time. Start over, or persist in the doomed cup you have created. If it flows quickly, and the coffee coming out has lots of bubbles and looks lighter, you're grinding too coarsly. If it flows really slowly, and it's bitter, too fine. Temperature is also very important.
>slow then fast, channeled, too fine / too much heat
>fast, underextracted, too coarse / too much heat
>slow, overextracted very bitter, too fine / too little heat (rare for me)

Also, fast --> slow CAN happen, but it's rare enough that it doesn't really matter. A few times, I've most likely ground too fine, and started with an initial temperature that's too high. So, the puck forms, channels as I drop the heat, the puck collapses (not sure on the dynamics of this) then the channel closes, and you have a slow, shitty, overextracted cup. Some tips
>Dark roast bad, if dark roasts are your thing, for whatever reason the oils really don't make it through the moka pot, you get a very bland, very shitty cup, or an extremely bitter mess. It's not a good method for dark roast
>Medium roast good, this will help you a lot on avoiding acidity, if you jostly your moka pot or fuck something up near the end, or don't drop the temperature fast enough, whatever flavors are cooked out by roasting to this point will not come through like they would in a light roast
>Light roast also good, with caveats. Nearly impossible to get right, I've made some decent yirgacheffe in my moka pot.

>> No.15934862

>>15934827
I use James Hoffman's blade grinder method with my shitter burr grinder, and that's the only way I've even gotten anything remotely acceptable out of my moka pot. Grind consistency in the moka pot is extremely important, if you fuck this up your puck will not form properly, and you will have shit coffee every time. I grind at around a pourover level, this is where I get the most consistent results. It depends heavily on the coffee you're using though. You will need to dial this in. I don't have any good tips on this because my grinder simply isn't good enough, I can consistently get to "close enough" and then I simply don't have the resolution to adjust around that. Like anything, you generally want to grind as fine as you reasonably can without getting a fucked, bitter cup. Flavor is going to peak right before the horrific wall of bitterness. Similarly, your coffee is going to fall off the other end, and you're going to get a flavorless, watery mess. There is a very small zone of good coffee.

>Holy fuck I just want coffee what is this
You can err on the side of too coarse, and this will be the best cup for most lazy people. You do not need to heat up the water first unless you're trying to win a competition, a bare fraction of this thread has coffee good enough, or a palate developed enough, to detect any changes in the roast that could or could not happen by just assembling the moka pot and brewing it normally. If you want, get some shit coffee, grind it and put it in the moka pot, put it together, and start. Pull it off right when the brew starts, take it apart, and put your finger in the coffee. It just doesn't heat up that much. That being said, I heat the water first every time. Cooling the moka pot to stop the brew is mandatory, you can test this for yourself too. Also, I find moka pot coffee suffers very much from cooling down, more than most espresso I've had even. Serve it properly.

>> No.15934886

>>15934827
>>15934862
>Alright, I understand all this, but why? Why would you do this?
Ultimately, you're making a mediocre lungo. That being said, go on amazon right now and look at moka pots.
>Holy fucking christ on a cracker, this is less than 30 dollars
Yeah, it is bitch. If you have a french press as well, which you should, you now have everything you need to make a shitter latte. It's mostly milk anyway, as long as you don't burn the milk like a retard it's going to taste pretty damn good. This will also help smooth out any weirdness that might have occured in your cup from your shitty brewing technique. Also, coffee from a moka pot, done properly, is actually very pleasant. It's cheap, it's good, and it's a fun way to mix things up. I don't want to drink the same coffee all the time. I haven't settled on a "daily driver" coffee brewing technique, but I certainly enjoyed the time I spent having it be the moka pot. And now, you too have all the tools you need to make and drink great coffee with a moka pot. No longer do you have to post dumb messages on online message forums like
>Is this just an incredibly long con by Italians?
>I purchased this item and spent not even 30 seconds to learn how to use it, why is the coffee bad?
>I tried to make espresso with my moka pot and it wasn't nearly as good as the coffee from my La Marzocco, how could this happen?

Also, just buy decent coffee. Like wine, expensive does not equal good, but cheap most likely equals bad. Good luck.
Final note, if you try to use really really fresh coffee, i.e. roasted 4 days ago or less, it just will not work. I don't understand the mechanics of this exactly, I thought of trying to bloom the coffee first, but it was too much work. I let it degass more, and just use coffee that is at least seven days old and I have no problems.

>> No.15935085

sneed

>> No.15935187

Brought some light beans. Aside from grinding finer is there anything different than medium/dark beans I should look out for when making espresso?

>> No.15935340

>>15933358
Thanks. I drink 1-2 coffees per day, won't multiple 250g packs run me long? Does it last longer if not ground?
>>15933753
I see, thanks. They just had a bunch of coffees lined up with no end and names but too far to see. I didn't see a menu, but I'll ask.
Yeah supermarket coffee is bitter and not really good.

>> No.15935343

>>15934058
Thanks

>> No.15935396

>>15935187
You need more heat.

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>>15930366
How do you drink that?

>> No.15935843

>>15935525
Carefully

>> No.15935848

>>15930845
Phin anon here again
I've tried three different grind sizes from french press coarse to espresso fine and I find that there's still drip through and the brew is done in about 3 minutes as opposed to the 5~ that's suggested. I'm likely doing something wrong, but my mistakes still taste delicious.

>> No.15935932

With grappa

>> No.15936082
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>8 hours until cold brew is ready
i think i'm just gonna go back to sleep until then

>> No.15936416

anyone around phoenix know of any good roasters?

>> No.15936719

>>15935187
Temps above 200F, and extraction times on the longer side. You may also need to go to a higher ratio, depending on how your shots are coming out.

>> No.15936721

How bad are the fines using a Jx-pro if grinding for french press and over all grind? Easy to clean for routine maintenance without losing manufactures calibration?

>> No.15936725

>>15935340
>Does it last longer if not ground?

Yes, but the idea was to get you to sample their wares without sperging too much. Next time, you'll have tasted their beans be prepared, and a little more comfortable ordering what you'd like.

>> No.15937151

>>15928262
For the steam, don't let it light the steam light because it turns off the boiler. Wait about 30 seconds and start purging so you force the boiler to heat continously and you get good pressure.

>> No.15937160

>>15936725
I see, so basically pick two and next time I can ask for taste relative to those two and keep iterating until I find my tastes.
Thanks a lot anon, this is really helpful! I wish you the best

>> No.15937181

>>15933944
Why not get a Rocket, a Profitec or an ECM at that point?

>> No.15937288

>>15937181
I am interested in doing milk drinks so I'd want a dual boiler. to get a quality dual boiler you're looking at $2,800+ which then just leads me back to "fuck it, might as well just get the Decent at that money"

>> No.15937457

>>15934433
What about 14 hr drip cold brew?
On second thought Fuck you your opinion doesn’t matter.

>> No.15937501

>>15937160
Just go in with a plan. You're going in to buy 2 bags. Doesn't matter what size, doesn't matter what roast or origin. If you happen to like one of them, grab another bag of it the next time you're in there and get something different for the other bag. You got this homie.

>> No.15937521

>>15937288
Unless you're in a commercial setting, the benefit of having a dual boiler over a heat exchanger is pretty minor. Do you have a good grinder to go along a $3k machine?

>> No.15937636

>>15937457
sounds based

>> No.15937648

>>15937288
You could go for the Rancillio Silvia Pro, which runs about $1800.

>> No.15937755

Currently doing intermittent fasting so black cold brew in the morning is my new preference. If I feel like putting effort in, I'll steam half and half or milk with some sugar and pour it in my regular coffee.

I fell for the bones coffee company meme and actually like their beans but I only have an electric grinder so its suboptimal regardless. The roasts they sell do lend well to cold brewing at least and gives them a really nice aroma even when cold brewed. When I'm being a lazy piece of shit and want coffee in the afternoon while I'm working I'll just use whatever flavored creamer is in the fridge that my wife uses.

>> No.15937858

What are the most efficient brewing methods in terms of caffeine extraction per g of coffee and taking into account filter costs if any? I hear Turkshit but that stuff sounds nasty and sugary to compensate.

>> No.15937933
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15937933

Shot in the dark since this isn't a /sip/ thread but has anyone tried the French Vanilla Iced Coffee G Fuel?
Amazon has mixed reviews on it (almost perfect split of 1 and 5 stars) and I don't want to buy a whole tub of it only for it to end up being shit. G Fuel don't offer single sachet samples of that flavour either.
I drink coffee nearly every day but I've developed a tolerance to the caffiene at this stage, I know energy drinks are pretty meme tier but I'm not sure what else would work for me except piling tons of sugar into the coffee I drink already.

>> No.15937948

>>15937858
Just let the mud settle. I kind of like the little bit of smoke that comes from making cofveve turquoise over coals, but even done on an invection burner, the bitterness isn't that much worse than other high-extraction methods, and is largely dependent upon the coffee, grind (there are grades of dust), temperature, and length of extraction. If you let the ibrik/cezve scorch or boil over, you'll probably have pretty rough tasting coffee, same if you let it sit in your cup long enough to get cold.

>> No.15938010

>>15937521
eureka mignon

>> No.15938077

>>15937933
Preworkouts or chocolate covered coffee beans have worked for me, probably health damaging at the doses I took though. You might want to look at caffeine pills as well.
If absolutely does not work, check nootropics maybe e.g. piracetam but I didn't ure it and I wouldn't recommend, threads about seemed to say its pretty addictive and withdrawal is very harsh.
Chinese think ginseng gives energy, might be truth to it.
Supplement vitamins and minerals so you're not tired and don't need the boost.
Take care of yourself, anon.

>> No.15938095

>>15938010
>eureka mignon

Worse than chinkshit hand grinders these days.

>> No.15938560

>>15938095
how?

>> No.15938676

>>15938560
its not, its a great grinder for the price

>> No.15939007

>>15937521
For hand, 1zpresso JX Pro or K Pro.

>> No.15939151

>>15938560
Grind distribution. How else?

>> No.15939196

>>15932956
that shit s good

>> No.15939828
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15939828

What are you drinking today, /ck/?

>> No.15939845

>>15939828
how do you like those cups? where did you get them?

>> No.15939879

>>15939845
I love them - I have 190mL - about six ounce I guess - cups from the same company. Nice to drink out of, the larger ones are shaped well for milk pouring. No idea how easy they are to find outside of Australia/NZ though:

https://www.acmecups.com.au/

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15939898

How do you prepare your vegetables to be tasty but without using a load of fat?
I'm really loving smashing my green vegies at the moment however I'm using a fair bit of olive oil to get them really tasty when I'm stir-frying or roasting. They're not Chinese take-away levels of oil but I use enough to make sure all the vegetables have a thin coat. Steamed and boiled are both pretty tasteless, is blanching a good technique?
What's your favorite way to get your greens?

>> No.15939908

did my first roast today 27 minutes, im not even sure i got first crack on all of them. set up was a clay cooking pot and a chink totally food grade heatgun. next time i'll try a stainless skillet over the stove and heatgun, unless this roast tastes likes heaven.

>> No.15939960

Any suggestions for a place to buy the JX-pro in Western Canada to avoid yank customs? Amazon is out, only places I can see online are mokhabunn and Rogue Wave Coffee. Also talk me out of it, I'm going to be grinding for V60-02, Aeropress, and french press with a Gaggia Classic Pro on my wishlist a few years out.

>> No.15940041

>>15939879
wish they didnt come in packs of 6, would rather the packs of 4

>> No.15940148

>>15940041
I don't buy them from them directly, I buy them from a coffee supplies shop singly, so it might be possible to find them that way too somewhere more useful to wherever you are.

>> No.15940268

>>15925965
Nice blog post fag

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>>15927828
No he was a cute boy tho

>> No.15940279

>>15939828
>that label
coffee consoomerism has gone too far
looks cool though

>> No.15940364

>>15939908
Hope it tastes good. Twenty-seven minutes is pretty darn slow to get to first crack. Not all coffees are really poppy, but I only run into an anemic one rarely. How was the color? I don't think the clay pot is a very good choice, since earthenware is an insulator. Your heat gun may also be too weak. What are the rated temperatures? You should be able to get to a city roast or darker in under 15 minutes.

I use a 1500W heatgun on a 1000ºF heat setting. The gun is clamped onto a tripod pointing down. I use an old 3qt. stainless steel Revere ware pot and a stainless steel whisk to stir. I wear welding gloves because the whisk handle gets really hot. I find 300g batches of green work the best, and roast times are between 10-15 minutes. Usually shoot for city roasts about 15-30 seconds into first crack. Some coffees I go a bit darker into full city (essentially after 1st crack is over), sometimes lighter. Depends on the coffee. You have to experiment. The mounted gun allows me to stir AND swirl the pot for really even roasts. You can also move the pot up or down to get more or less aggressive heat. Ususally I like to start with the gun further away until I hit straw-yellow, then I bring it in close for fast heating up to 1st crack, or just up to the cusp, then I may pull back a little to let the beans coast to the color I like. This is helpful for lighter roasts. Then I pour them out into a wire mesh basket and blast them with a box fan. You can get half a shade darker than you wanted if you don't do this because of residual heat. Tossing from container to container during the cooldown is helpful to remove chaff. Hope any of this helps.

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>>15939828
Ethiopian as well, it's probably a little too light roasted for milk drinks but still pretty nice and great as bare espresso. Working on my milk technique - long way to go but making progress.

>> No.15940423

>>15940272
:(

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>>15939828
An Ethiopian that's a bit light of a roast for milk drinks really but still nice. Makes good espresso on its own though.

>> No.15940435

>>15940364
>Not all coffees are really poppy
washed Nicaraguan, so it must have been the pot muffling the pops
> How was the color?
from barely brown (1%) to medium roast (95%)
>What are the rated temperatures?
kek, fast fan and slow fan. so cheap i am breaking even on the first kilo i roast.

>> No.15940445

>>15940279
I don't mind the labels so much as I think it's a shame that they go to that trouble but while they have their suggested recipe on their website, they don't print it on the bag or even just include a QR code that takes you to it. Their recipe is usually a pretty good baseline for me.

>> No.15940483

>>15940435
Yeah, I would use a metal pot, and get the tip of the heat gun pretty close, about 6". Blast it as high as it goes. And you gotta keep stirring. You need constant agitation for evenness. Hard to say if your gun is weak, if you're not stirring enough, or if this coffee has quakers (beans that don't crack and stick out as too-light no matter what–just pick those ones out and throw them away). When I first started roasting I was going to hot and fast through the beginning and I would get more unevenness in the end just because of that. You've gotta build up an even heat mass up to the straw colored phase. I think it's because of very slight size and shape differences in the beans. There's nothing you can do about that. That's a coffee grading issue. But everything should be pretty darn even once you get to an american roast. Most coffees will go through a very loud, rolling first crack stage like a pot of popcorn. Some don't. Get more and other types of coffees. It really does help to gain experience and perspective when you're just starting.

>> No.15940510

>>15925027
8oz Coffee
2oz Silk soy milk
Hot or iced. Depends on what I'm eating with it.

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>>15940364
>>15940435
>>15940483
I snagged this gem off what.cd years ago. Maybe you brews can make some use of it.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/djy9qcf9kwgtr3n/DIY_Coffee_-_Mark_Frauenfelder.epub/file

>> No.15940629

>>15932956
they tried the machines in the US, but the diversity committee looted them.

>> No.15940869
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>>15939828
Kalossi

>> No.15940964

>>15929372
This right here for me as well. Shit is smooth as fuck!

>> No.15941434

What kind of good grinder is actually worth buying? i have a 30 dollar automatic blade grinder I got about 2yr ago and it works well enough, but it's hard to keep a consistent grind or get it fine enough for certain drinks.

The Baratza Encore seems like the best option since it's good but also not like 500 dollars. But there are also hand grinders, but are those worth it? it seems like a good manual grinder is just as expensive as the automatic ones, so what's up with that? I want to get a better grinder so I can get consistent grinds of various size (since I like to make different styles of coffee)

>> No.15941438

>>15925393
Is that the cat shit coffee

>> No.15941501

>>15925257
This post reminded me it exists so I tried making one out of curiosity. Not too bad desu, but I think I added too much instant coffee because it’s a little too bitter. I’m also not sure hand whisking it is worth the effort

>> No.15941530

Why does instant coffee taste like shit and nothing like coffee?

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>>15939828
Funky brazilian natural microlot. Underextracted since it was roasted yesterday, but plenty delicious already.

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>>15940445
My roaster gives out carton cards with the suggested recipe and coffee details printed on it. No QR codes though.

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For the people asking for steamed milk: buy pic related (Nespresso Aeroccino).
It makes frothed milk, hot or cold, and it works wonderfully.

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>>15941698
Proof, this is one of my ‘cino

>> No.15942032

>>15941698
I'm a big fan of this thing too. It can be messy but it isn't that hard to clean. Just don't overfill it.

>> No.15942118

Help me decide for my first grinder as far as I can tell it comes down to this, if no one says anything I'm flipping a coin at this point:
>Encore
+electric
+a bit cheaper
+does what I currently do or will try in the near future (french press mostly with occasional pour over)
-doesn't do espresso or turkish
-durability issues, newest reviews seem plagued with motor failures and overall average ratings
-loud and I get up at odd sleep schedules sometimes and would wake up family
-counter clutter

>Jx-pro
+can do most grinds at least to espresso with better consistency
+doesn't wake up family and can be relegated to silent early morning grinder if I buy an Encore one day
+durability apparently it will last ~9000 days with usual usage
-will probably get old grinding 34g of beans to medium coarse every morning, history of cubital tunnel so dunno if I want the repetitive motions
-hopper may not hold 34g depending on beans
-more expensive

>> No.15942127

>>15941667
That's a nice idea. It's not that I mind finding their recipe on my phone, it'd just make more sense to make use of the fancy label. But I like the cards

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>>15925027
(((Coffee)))

>> No.15942195

>>15941698
I use that, add a dash of sugar and let it hot froth the milk into a delectable sweet foam to top my 'cinos with.
The wife puts her vanilla creamer in there and claims it to be delightful as well.

>> No.15942379

>>15942118
Don't buy a cheap electric grinder, especially a no-name brand one.

>> No.15942382

>>15942379
Baratza is no name?

>> No.15942482

>>15928602
Get out of here eddie

>> No.15942500

Anyone got any any pods they could recommend?

>> No.15942506

>>15941434
>it seems like a good manual grinder is just as expensive as the automatic ones, so what's up with that? I want to get a better grinder so I can get consistent grinds of various size (since I like to make different styles of coffee)

With less money going toward gearing, motors, and plastic housing, more goes to the actual burr set and alignment. Your arms will last alot longer than the $10 off the shelf ac motor they're going to charge you $40 for a replacement. Buy a hand grinder, when you can. The good ones are so based they're consistently out of stock.

>> No.15942507

with this music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJRneECcJU

>> No.15942514

>>15942382
Baratza is fine. I didn't see your greentext. It all depends on what you're planning to brew in the morning. If you're not planning to brew espresso, then something that can do an espresso grind is unnecessary.

>> No.15942558

>>15942382
Baratza is the cheapest shit they can get away with selling. The ONLY notable thing about them is their lax warranty, which isn't really a bonus as its proof they're aware of the shit quality and its cheaper to give you a new unit than to have amazon reviews fuck their sales.

>> No.15942611

>>15942558
I have a sample size of one but I fucking love my 270, have had just under a hundred kilo through it without problems. Grind distribution is great for the price, adjustability is ace.

>> No.15942641

>>15942118
get the jx-pro now (I can recommend the k-plus)
you can get a nice (>$500) electric grinder later if you want an upgrade

>> No.15942660

>>15942482
I like you... like I like my coffee.

>> No.15943010
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Brehs, my coffee game is about to change.

>> No.15943027

>>15943010
Nice

>> No.15943099

>>15943010
>blacked edition
based
mine took some break-in before it was good for pour overs though.

>> No.15943133

>>15943027
Actually that's a niche

>> No.15943138

>>15925027
on a rope

>> No.15943852

>>15941530
What a dumb question

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>>15939828
kalico-coffee-titiwangsa

>> No.15945479

>>15944381
That looks good.

>> No.15945876

>>15925027
Is it me, or does the first cup of coffee of the day taste the best?

>> No.15946074

>>15945876
It sure does. I only drink one cup a day and almost always have it right after my oatmeal. That coffee chasing the yogurt, milk, oats, and cinnamon just can't be beat

>> No.15946135

>>15942660
With a spoon in it

>> No.15946212

>>15942660
Roasted until I hear your insides crack, ground into hundreds of tiny pieces, tossed in boiling water, then dumped in the trash where you belong

>> No.15946214

>>15942660
young, dumb, and full of cum

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>>15945479
I like my coffee black with a splash of milk.

>> No.15946696

>>15925964
Blue mountain Jamaican

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15946725

>why yes, I do just pour boiling water over the coffee grinds in the bottom of my mug, how could you tell?

>> No.15946778

>>15940567
Thanks fellow Cambodia kombucha fermenting club member

>> No.15947574

>>15940483
just did another batch this time on a stove plus heatgun in a SS pot.
>12 minutes total (i preheated the pot)
>some beans got to second crack
>also they swole a lot more than the prevoius batch
>next time i will only use the heatgun on low
about the previous batch
>mostly past first crack, (i ate the yellow beans tasted liked peanuts)
>the clay pot really did muffle the pops

general notes for anons that want try for themselves
>cover your hair unless you want smelly dandruff
>smoke is to be expected
>cleanup of the work area is needed afterwards or it will create a fire hazard

>> No.15947834

What is coffee strength? Caffeine amount?
Do you go for strength or taste?

>> No.15947882

>>15947834
Taste. Caffeine is a part of the coffee experience but taste is central

>> No.15948009

>>15947882
So do you put more coffee instead for the same amount of water if the strength is lower?
Checking coffee seller website but the descriptions are a bunch of nonsense shit with no common framework so it's basically impossible to compare. Only thing they give for all is location but since I don't have much experience I can't get anything from that. I must say it's a bit hard to make a choice.

>> No.15948157

I just realized the numbers on the JX pro mean full rotations. I was literally grinding my coffee finer than Turkish cause I was just moving the dial to 3 from 0.

>> No.15948347

>>15948009
>So do you put more coffee instead for the same amount of water if the strength is lower?
Yes, this is what you do if it's too thin. 1:16 coffee to water is a common ratio. You can go higher or lower from there depending on your tastes. But always try grinding finer before changing the ratio, although start with this one

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>>15947574
Post the fucking beans moron. Its an image board.

>> No.15948559

>>15948371
maybe some day, im not a zoomer that has a camara always on him.

>> No.15948581

>>15934433
Fuck you my french press takes only 4 minutes to make coffee and it only requires a grinder. You're a dumb nigger if you think I'm shelling out 1000 buckaroos when my stainless press does the same shit for $30 (assuming, it was a gift).

>> No.15948660

>>15934433
>$500+ for an automatic espresso grade grinder that will probably fuck up, else $200 hand grinder which gets repetitive when grinding for espresso
>entry level espresso machines like the Silvia suck ass unmodded despite being $735 (single boiler, no stock PID which is another ~$200 to fix the heating issues which is almost mandatory unless you want to waste weeks of your life temp surfing along with losing money in fucked up beans, expensive repairs, don't even have water resevoir indicators in that range, etc)
>need to pull 2-3 shots to get the same caffeine as my 16oz french press does with less clean up, prep, and counter-space
I'll just stick to press instead of Americanos. Fucking with milk drinks at the average household price point isn't worth it, the only thing I could see myself using it for is affogatos. Call me when the price point for entry-level machines with a factory installed PID changes.

>> No.15948802

>>15948660
>grinder price
I wonder what cheap shitty grinder you’re currently using is. Your French press probably tastes like shit.
>need to pull 2-3 shots to get the same caffeine as my 16oz french press
Your 16oz is equivalent to two cups of coffee or two espressos anyway. I don’t understand
>less space
How about having a kitchen that isn’t shared with your parents or in a small cardboard box shithole? Espresso machines don’t take up as much space as you’re imagining.

You’re just an idiot, wouldn’t be able to make a good espresso regardless. Yeah stick with your shitty French press you fucking retard.

>> No.15948845
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15948845

So, withdrawal or just down with something? Coffee noob.
I got a french press 2 weeks ago and few days ago learned I had been under filling it with grounds so started to fill it like pic related, drink about a pot and half a day (robusta) all totally fine.

...and I ran out, that's a lot of fucking grounds, had my last cup yesterday morning. Slight pain behind the eyes today developed into full blown headache, sweats, slight nausea. In bed at 8pm lol. The coffee really wreck my shit like this?

>> No.15948858

>>15948660
>else $200 hand grinder which gets repetitive when grinding for espresso

Spoken like someone who hasn't used a decent hand grinder after 2005.

>> No.15948867

>>15948845
Yeah, I just use a single spoonful of grounds and my press is a 24 ounce mason jar, you don't need that much.

>> No.15948990

>>15948858
funny thing is now that timemore grinders are getting popular (as in out of stock on local retailers), finally will make comandante either actually improve their design after a decade or rely only on brand recognition to survive.

incredible the diference that 2 ball bearings made, hand grinders had been stuck in a pre-industrial time warp.

>>15948845
using volumetric units is retarded, weigth it 15g is enough for one person.

>> No.15949168

>>15948347
Interesting, then I guess I shouldn't limit my choice to the strength scale then. Guess I'll have to try them to know whether I want wood, hazelnut, chocolate or etc tastes.
Do you guys know if it's a thing to ask for samples? 250g bags seem a lot just for a taste test, and if I don't ant to waste it I will only buy 1 or 2 at a time.

>> No.15949178

>>15948581
Also allows you to cold brew, and use the Hoffman French Press Method. Using a 30€ French press here as well, just have to change the filter every 4 months or so, and it's a great device.

>> No.15949179

>>15949168
Plenty of places sell cups of their roasts

>> No.15949196

>>15948845
Probably withdrawal. You'll get headaches for a couple days and feel like shit for some more, but if you're like me it's a social requirement and you need it for work (need to use my brain and if I feel tired I can only rely on coffee) you learn to cope.
>>15948867
I used a spoonful from previous coffee pack and it turns out with the new beans and grind a spoonful is 8g, which would make weak coffee. Amount of grounds looks fine to me.

>> No.15949282

I seem to get a lot more fines when I grind up African coffees. Anybody else have this issue? Is it because they're denser?

>> No.15949318

1 tsp of Instant Coffee, 1 tsp of Sugar, match the amount of water with same amount of milk
I drink it purely to just shit in the morning

>> No.15949649

>>15948660
>average household price point

LOL.

>> No.15949677

>>15947574
Sounds like you're getting there! Keep working on a reliable heat setting and good bean circulation for even roasts. And yes, roasting is very messy. It's smoky and coffee chaff flies everywhere.

>> No.15949840

french press then add a little milk

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>>15949677
Smoky? The fuck are you smoking?

>> No.15949903

>>15949874
I've started to like the smell of the coffee smoke. I roast in my garage with the door open, but the smell lingers for a day or two. It's pleasant like the smell of woodsmoke everywhere when it's cold outside. The fruity smoke from natural process coffees is great.

>> No.15949989

>>15949903
If the smell is lingering, you're roasting about 35f past where you need to be.

>> No.15950077

>>15949989
First, there are no objectively correct roast levels. It is a matter coffee type and optimization according to personal preference. Second, I roast bigger batches than you do. This produces more smoke. You get preachy and dogmatic sometimes.

>> No.15950370

>>15950077
>You get preachy and dogmatic sometimes.

Only when people are BURNING shit with cast iron skillets and chicago electric heat guns, while pretending its optimal and recommending others to do the same.

>> No.15950482

>>15950370
Dude. You're talking out of your ass. The heat gun ignites little flying pieces of chaff in mid-air. This creates smoke. Also: your crusade against city roast is insane. Don't become a gay youtube coffee guy paraody.

>> No.15950502

>>15950482
Its a finite resource, don't waste it. You can get shitty burnt beans from most roasters. I tell the people who char an in of their cigar while lighting they're fuckups too. Why burn wagyu when you'd be happier with singed chuck?

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>>15950482
>Oh hey neighbor just (COUGH) roasting my beans for the month. Yeah my house stinks for 3 weeks afterwards but (WHEEZE) you know, you just can't beat the skillet. Smoke? Yeah don't worry, the wife made me take out the smoke detectors.

>> No.15950534

>>15950502
>city roast is shitty burnt beans now
>roasting your own coffee how you like is wasting coffee
>only twingytwangy battery acid coffee is good as per fad-of-the-month red-frame glasses youtubegayman's reddity mandates
>milk NEVER belongs with coffee EVER
>only supersour espresso is good
>you have to spend at least $1000 on a grinder and use charts+graphs to make coffee or it's shitturd diarrhea juice

>> No.15950559

>>15950534
Just because your taste is objectively shit doesn't mean you need to take it out on randos posting on an anonymous imageboard.

>> No.15950579

>>15950559
>just because you don't take huge dildoes up your ass doesn't mean you should tell people they can do whatever they want because they can't damn it REEEEEE only what I like is good and everything else is insane strawman hyperbole

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>>15950534
Hey man, I was trying to read your post but theres flaming chaff EVERYWHERE. You think harbor freight has some exhaust fans or something?

>> No.15950660

>>15950599
You'll learn to love it like my neighbors do.
:)

>> No.15950672

>>15950660
You'll learn the symptoms of bronchiolitis obliterans real quick. If you're going to have burning particulate matter inside your house, wear a fucking n95.

>> No.15950801

>>15950559
Look. I know im responding to a mongoloid, i know. But i have to tell you. You dont know anything about coffee. Read all the faggot books you want. Go to coffee fest and turn your nose up to the italians and masturbate over synesso. Go pay thousands of dollars to be a q gradee and look at coffee under a uv light. Go for it. I dont even care. Just remember kid, i was stripping trucks of supremos while you were in fucking poopy pants diapers. I remeber when Choc full of Nuts delivered coffee in a fucking rolls royce. Your playing yourself, kid.

I have over 100 specialy offerings from 97 different countries of origin in contianer quanities AT ALL TIMES. Wow you say mr. Coffee broker bean KANG you just doxed yourself on the internet, but i dont care. Fuck you. Ive been doing this so long i was playing golf with the nca guys before it blew up ive been a member and disbarred by the scaa more times then your punk ass has even been on there mailing list. Ive FUCKED my way through more coffee roasters secrateries than you even have in your rolodex. I have a warehouse filled with over $1,000,000 of espresso equipment laying DEFUNCT.

People like you, kid, people like your are marks, customers, losers. Go ahead, drink your shitty overextracted coffee; freeze your green coffee; hook up pid machines to your little home.use espresso machines, buy a 1 bag Lorring. But to me kid, youll always be a loser and a faggot

>> No.15950994

>>15932956
Blacks, basically

>> No.15951030

>>15934862
>>15934886
Yikes you are retarded. Every Italian I know can make amazing coffee with one of these without even 1% of the thought you're putting in.
>inb4 their grounds must be amazing
Not really

>> No.15951481

>>15948845
Have you tried it with milk?

>> No.15951490

>>15948845
>Slight pain behind the eyes today developed into full blown headache

Is this your first time having a coffee?

>> No.15952068

Can get an Eureka MDMCA grinder for cheap.
Is this worth it as a babbies first grinder?

>> No.15952342

>>15930325
https://acmecups.nz/collections/espresso-range/products/flatwhite-cup-150ml

>> No.15952828

>>15952342
Yep, same brand; the pic I posted is their demitasse though.

>> No.15952852

>>15948845
>drink about a pot and half a day
Too much. You need approx 2 Tbsp ground per cup you make, but drinking a pot and a half is way too much each day.

>> No.15953091

Petition to make the next ctg "burnt to a crisp" edition.

>> No.15953491

>>15953091
15 seconds into 1st crack isn't burnt, retard.

>> No.15953499

What is the /coffee/ equivalent of the /tea/ puer lesbian?

>> No.15953524

>>15953491
>but the smell lingers for a day or two. It's pleasant like the smell of woodsmoke

>> No.15953551

>>15953524
Yes.

>> No.15953732

>>15953551
I've roasted 2lbs back to back in my room over winter with a screened chaff catcher. The smell dissipates within ~4 hours.

>> No.15953880

>>15953732
I have stronger senses than most people. Smell, taste, hearing, feeling, etc. I would be able to smell it for days. It's a double-edged sword.

>> No.15953982

>>15953880
And this makes you favor burnt roasts? Seems counterintuitive.

>> No.15953995

>>15953982
It makes me favor medium roasts.

>> No.15954285

>>15953995
I smell more, therefor I stink up my house.

>> No.15954366

>>15952852
Seems okay to me, 500-600ml pot makes 2 cups, so that's 3 cups per day.

>> No.15954544

>>15954285
I roast out in the garage, dingleberry.

>> No.15954751

>>15954285
>be american
>get shot if you put walls and a door around your kitchen

>> No.15954839

>>15953982
>>15953995
>not drinking Italian+ roasts
you're both fucking retarded

>> No.15954881

68g/960ml of french press a day bad for a single person? That's in 2 servings 6 hours apart.

>> No.15954913

>>15954881
That's about as much as I normally drink, and I can sleep just fine at night, so it's probably all right.

>> No.15955065
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15955065

Breakfast is coffee.

>> No.15955354

>>15954544
Post beans.

>> No.15955414

Should I not be grinding 2nd wave beans like Starbucks and Kicking Horse in my JX-pro? Kicking horse specifically roasts pretty dark. Shit tastes disgusting to me but apparently the idiots on amazon love it and it is a little bit less than half the cost of the usual 3rd wave beans here.

>> No.15955453

>>15955414
It might leave some oils behind because it's roasted so darkly, but all you'd have to do is give it a little cleaning or purge it out with a small handful of good beans.

>> No.15955472

>>15955354
lewd

>> No.15955871

>>15955414
you can get 3rd wave greens cheaper than really shitty 2nd wave dark roasts

>> No.15955960

>>15955871
I live in a Chinada commie block shoe-box sized apartment, I don't think my building would like that. Plus the gear/time costs don't seem worth it for individual consumption. Maybe if I had a generational home but hard to justify.

>> No.15956039

>>15955960
ok enjoy your starbucks then?

>> No.15956048

>>15955960
Make friends, roast at their place, pay them in cheap coof. Just make sure not to smoke out the place like the retard up above.

>> No.15956165

>>15956048
But my neighbors love the smell of coffee smoke wafting through the neighborhood on Sunday mornings. Mmm.

>> No.15956619

I can't find a Hario Switch in stock anywhere.

>> No.15956627

morning /ck/, now its time for the 1st vanilla coffee and a hard cocked egg with Mayo

>> No.15956783

>>15956619
Preorder out of jpn. $20 dhl shipping some make the order worth it.

https://kurasu.kyoto/products/hario-immersion-dripper

>> No.15957291

>>15956783
Boutta order one for no reason even though I already have a Clever.

>> No.15957536

>>15957291
If you do, make sure to snag some of the ethiopian refisa. Its fucking gr8.

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>>15955065
Breakfast with coffee

>> No.15957912

New thread
>>15957909
>>15957909
>>15957909

>> No.15958677

>>15957912
not still at bump limit, shill

>> No.15958831

>How do you like your coffee?
espresso based
cappuccino daily

Silvia + Sette grinder
Onyx or Intelligensia

>> No.15958911

>>15932956
You can get them at certain markets, like on the west coast I know the ranch 99 stocks them.

>> No.15958969

>>15925027
Usually pour over. Used a french press for nearly a decade but my girlfriend converted me to pour over. I've been expirimenting with a phin filter lately too. I've been using a gravity phin, but after I'm done with the bloom pour, the grounds always tip the top piece over. I can't really tell if this is a bad thing or not, or if there's any way to prevent it without using a screw-on phin. Have any others experienced in vietnamese coffee had this happen?

>> No.15959359

>>15958831
A nice V60 pourover, black, or a cappucino from my Flair and electric milk foamer.

>> No.15960250

>>15932956
canned coffee isn't a thing in the US
US market needs to have a pound of sugar in anything drink based also

those canned coffees are actually nice to me because they aren't liquified sugar

>> No.15960284

>>15960250
A lot of the ones in Japan are quite sweet.

>> No.15960290

>>15960284
UCC/Georgia/BOSS does not seem that sweet compared to US brands but I may be wrong

>> No.15960350

>>15960250
>canned coffee isn't a thing in the US
What are you talking about? You can get a shitty canned Starbucks in any convenient store in the country and in the PNW you can get a canned cold brew at most places.

>> No.15960353

wasn't expecting the fellow meme kettle to improve my coffee this much.

apparently i was pouring way too hard before. the flow control on this thing really helps

>> No.15961027

>>15960350
sure, but it's not a very popular thing imo
I didn't see many people drinking out of cans in a large city because there are coffee shops around every corner

>> No.15961381

>>15960350
It's not a thing to the extent that you can find some in any given vending machine, unlike Japan.