/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15902205
Globalist elite Zionist Marxist filth. Not traditional and anti white.

It’s for fags.

>>15902205
unhealthy and highly processed.

>>15902205
Seems gross, would rather eat real meat and/or real vegetables, will probably never try it.

>>15902205
Utter shit, wouldn't even feed it to my dog

Much better vegetarian dishes to be made. No matter how it's cooked or what brand it is, I've always found it to taste extremely processed and chemical-y.

>>15902211
Exactly why it is based

>>15902205
I've yet to try a beyond burger, but we put them on the menu where I work (they're surprisingly popular even considering our demographic, which isn't exactly that type), but they smell like wet dog food when you cook them and it's the only time I appreciate having to wear a mask aside from cleaning the grease trap.

>>15902205
The day the protein per gram becomes higher than actual meat, and the price becomes lower, and the taste becomes at least equal? Ill be first in the line for my government subsidized dialator, and will responsibly recycle my last two CRT TVs so I can never again play Melee like it was when I was as preteen

>>15902205
I tried them, a lot of them are like low quality prepackaged meats but not quite. Not terrible, not amazing. The beyond meat burger from bk is better than their actual meat tho

>>15902205
For me, it's the Impossible Whopper™.

>>15902232
You're being overdramatic

If you work in a kitchen ,or have a fryer, cut a patty in 4-8 pieces, then throw it in. Cook for three minutes, your special tonight is Falafel

>>15902205
Gross. I have no problem with tofu and tempeh, but I don’t want it made into a tofu dog. Same goes for whatever these are made of. I don’t want a chickpea nugget or jackfruit BBQ. The best veggie burger I ever had was like spring roll filling formed into a patty then breaded and fried. It wasn’t trying to be a burger like black bean burgers try and fail to be. Still a shit meal due to complete lack of protein.

>>15902205
I like Gardein burger patties but I didn't like the beyond beef patty I tried. Haven't tried the sausage because it's like $9 for a pack and I'm not that curious

>>15902222
poor dog. who pushed in his face, or was it born deformed?

shit, vegans should focus on developing their own recipes and shit instead of trying to imitate meat.

if they are cheaper than real meat i'll buy it. otherwise i'd stuck with real meat.

>>15902205
been vegetarian since 86. they are usually way too high is sodium and I rarely eat them. a lot have added sugar too

Why isn't anyone fighting back against this by designing artificial vegetables made out of veal?

>>15902336
Because economies are run by the market not reddit users.

>>15902282
This.
Me and all the other vegetarians I know don't touch this filth.

>>15902205
haven't tried
it's price is too high to overcome my lack of interest

>>15902282
>>15902362

>>15902282
>>15902362
are you guys a gay couple?

>>15902366
>>15902377
Return to reddit please

>>15902260
>I have no problem with tofu and tempeh, but I don’t want it made into a tofu dog
> I don’t want a chickpea nugget or jackfruit BBQ
These things are all tasty though. BBQ jackfruit sandwich is great

>>15902205

Those sausages are by far the best fake meat ever created, I picked some up at grocery outlet for $2.99 a few months ago

>>15902395
why would you do that to yourself

>>15902377
You're just mad because vegans like me more even though I cut the heads off my excess drakes.

>>15902229
Plant based

>>15902429
More like plant cringe

>>15902384
Maybe a bad example as those don’t sound too bad. I like ripe jackfruit though I dislike falafel. I’m I’m going to eat BBQ I want meat, but I’m more than open to a jackfruit slaw. If I’m going to eat some kind of meatball pita then it needs to be made of meat not falafel though I’m open to trying more falafel on the side as falafel. I like making mapo tofu, miso soup and clear broth soups with tofu, and fried tofu tossed in sweet and spicy sauce at home. I just don’t like non meat pretending to be meat just as much as I don’t like non dairy pretending to be dairy. Homemade cashew milk is delicious on its own but is not a good dairy substitute for coffee.

I think it's a silly way to eat vegetarian. Just eat beans and lentils and mushrooms and stuff like that. There's a lot of stuff you can do without meat.

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>>15902424
you're the cone guy

>>15902453
Just buy garloids

>>15902487
mmm... vegan dicke

>>15902205
I might try them seriously when they become as cheap as meat in my country, no way I'm spending $3 for 4 shitty links.
And then after we'll have to see about flavor, so far most of the 'vegan' options I have tried for other things have been crap, like vegan cheese.

>>15902205
I'll make my own black bean burgers from time to time but I just dont see a point in the "imposible" or "beyond" products. A vegan lifestyle just isn't healthy.

>>15902478
nope. More than one person in the world slaughters ducks.

>>15902244
The normal "meat" in chain fast food isn't meat in the first place

>>15902366
>if you aren't perfect, why try at all
zoomer take

>>15902661
As if veganisim is perfect

>>15902205
Had a beyond burger once. It smelled fucking awful and I could smell it for the rest of the day. Decided to not try again after that.

>>15902205
I had fake chicken in a microwave meal bowl once, because my father did the grocery shopping that week and didn't notice that it was imitation chicken. It was good, but it didn't taste or feel like chicken. I would have preferred if they just had the beans in the bowl instead of making them into a weird pseudo-chicken slurry. I really think that if you decide to go vegetarian, you should actually LIKE vegetables and be wholly willing to eat little or no meat without trying to cheat around it.

If they hate meat so much why do they devote all their life to making shit taste like it?
When the chink flu hit and stores were depleted of everything not even people wanted to buy this fake meat shit

Gross, retarded, if I wanted to be vegan then I wouldn't want to be reminded of eating animals constantly. There are things I eat occasionally which are vegan that I already like, but I don't even think of them as being vegan.

>>15902205
You couldn't pay me to eat it. And I don't care about animals or the environment so that angle doesn't work for me, either.

>>15902205
Pointless waste of resources.

>more expensive than the real thing
>full of chemicals and preservatives I wouldn't feed to a dog
>marketing is exclusively holier-than-thou posturing
Why the fuck would anyone buy this?

>>15902205
smells awful for some reason, like burning grease and toasted hay

>>15902205
If the fake meat was good enough, why do they try and market it as meat and shape it into normal meat products? Surely they can do what tofu does and give you blocks or slices without the need for all the gimmicks

>>15902205
>fake meat?
its fake, thus has no place in the diet of a living being.

I can't wait until it's cheep. I'll always continue to eat meat but I'd definitely be buying plant protein that isn't yucky once it's more reasonable to do so.

I still buy vedgie patties a lot because they're delicious. They're probably better than fake meat anyway

Tofu exists, is far less expensive, far more versatile, far healthier, and tastes better when prepared right. It doesn't pretend to be meat because it doesn't have to.
Beyond Meat has no place. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and you can see this in the way the marketing desperately tries to create a problem.

I will not eat the bugs

>>15902265
It's a pug. Middle aged women think they're cute. In reality they have all sorts of breathing problems and the breed would be better off dying out.

>>15902867
Oh anon you have it all wrong. "They" don't hate meat, they hate industrial-scale farming, which is quite easy to consider cruel to animals (whether you care or not is up to you but you can't deny it's a fucked up existence) and they are also not fans of the strain industrial livestock farming puts on the environment as a whole and local ecosystems.

Fake meat isn't designed to delight veggies and vegans, it's help people who like meat but want to start getting away from it.

>not even people wanted to buy this fake meat shit
that's likely just because it's 3x the price of it's flesh equivalent

>>15903635
>THIS processed vegetable protein concentrate is better than THAT processed vegetable protein concentrate

It's the same shit, anon, who gives a flying fuck if there's more than one kind?

>>15902215
This.
Somehow processed food is okay now because meat bad, think of the environment???, vegan malnutrition is trendy lmao

>>15903681
>mashed beans
>lab experiment full of sugar and salt that needs to be held together by emulsifiers and partially unsaturated fats
>same shit
lmao

>>15902205
Why not get the real meal ? It's way cheaper, taste better, way more healthy. I don't get it.

>>15903698
Yeah.
"Simple" isn't a virtue, anon

>>15903750
>claims that beans and lab paste are the same thing
>thinks the problem is that its not simple
Is this the power of vegan malnutrition?

>>15902222
check em

>>15902205
Not eating mutant un-meat made in a laboratory. Don't care if they say it's fine, I still ain't eating it.

>>15903766
If you have qualms about modern manufacturing techniques, state them. Don't just float around "lab meat" like it means anything.

Tried it, hated.
Eat local instead of processed soy crap that comes from the other side of the globe.

Beyond sausage tastes like burnt walnuts

>>15903814
I mean, you think this and beans are the same thing so maybe you're not as smart as you think.

>>15903652
That's a french bulldog but you're not wrong about pugs, poor animals.

>>15902205
taste wise its fucking crap, doesn't beat the real thing .

just eat fucking falafel if you wana be vegan.

>>15902205
Overpriced shit. Why pay more money for fake meat?

>>15902205
Taste like shit and has given me the runs every single time.

>>15903669
>anon you have it all wrong. "They" don't hate meat, they hate industrial-scale farming,
Then buy local from organic farms

I hate vegan shit but these things, bbq'd like normal patties, damn. Helps that my boomer dad is amazing at bbq'ing but these are genuinely delicious. Made from pea-protein.

Sloppa not fit for human consumption

>>15903814
Those ingredients plus shit taste regardless of preparation versus pure bean curd that’s at worst bland and at best delicious with good preparation.

>>15902205
I eat veggie hotdogs because they actually taste really good and don't give me heartburn immediately afterward. Also the morning star black bean burgers are fucking awesome. Cheap, take a minute to microwave and wa la. I get this "waahhh muh vegans hurt my feelings" thing has a lot to do with 4chan retards wanting to show of their epenis, but I couldn't imagine crying over foods because of some moral objection to the people that eat it. More pathetic than the vegans themselves.

don't care for it
gives me gi trouble and misses the point of both meat and vegetables
i'd rather eat beans and cabbage or a steak
not a """""""''steak""""""""' made out of chemically extracted beans and cabbage

>>15902253
how the fuck would that be anything close to falafel

ITT: faggots whine about how they won't eat a veggie burger because of how "processed" it is, but then will shovel down 20 mcnuggets in one sitting

>>15902260
>i have no problem with tempeh but i WILL NOT EAT jackfruit or chickpeas THEY ARE GROSS YUCKY!
You do know what tempeh is, right?

>>15904874
>but don’t want them made into meat substitutes
>just like I don’t want other foods to pretend to be meat
>but have no problem eating them not pretending to be meat
Can you even read?

>>15904886
They are literally used to "emulate meat" in every dish they are in. Name one use of them that you wouldn't find a meat alternative for.

>>15902212
>>15902215
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>>15902223
pretty much these, don't even have to scroll down this thread

>>15902205
I tried it because a family member wanted to and it was terribly bad
Not only did it not taste like meat when cooked properly, but it was a bitch to clean up and expensive as hell
I was legitimately mad at such a shitty food
If you've ever had one of those Boca brand veggie burgers, they taste way closer to a real burger and it's not trying to be fake meat

>>15904897
Mapo tofu, miso soup, and agedashi tofu. Not fake hotdog or burger abominations, not meant to pretend to be meat or take on flavors of meat. Tofu even accompanies meat in mapo tofu. Classic Asian tofu dishes don’t try to throw it in as a replacement in a chicken dish and convince you that it’s just like chicken, tofu is its own thing that goes well with Asian flavors.

>>15904856
>he still thinks mcnuggets are made with processed mystery slime
What is this, a 2002 chain email? You know you can look that shit up on google nowadays.

They're pretty based and cool in my books, can't really tell the difference desu. The impossible whopper is FIRE

>>15904856
I dont eat mcnuggets

>>15904818
Not the other guy, at first I was siding with you but here all I see are starches, salts, some oils. Not sure what your problem is. After properly preparing tofu it's the same thing.

>>15905039
Beyond meat tastes like shit and is more like pressed protein isolate powder product full of PUFAs than a whole food. I’d choose tofu when picking between the two 100% of the time. I only prepare it 2-3 times per month anyway, so I also almost always choose meat over tofu.

>>15902205
If a bitch feeds me that I will smack em.

I don't see the point. Tofu tastes better and has much better nutrition stats.

>>15904856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwL5G5HbGA&ab_channel=FaffiH

Even kids think you're a faggot.

>>15902205
If it tastes good and costs less than real meat, I'm willing. Unless it meets both of those criteria, it can fuck right off.

>>15905062
oh anon you've never eaten beyond meat

>>15902205
>Your honest opinion on fake meat?
Your honest opinion on fake food?

>>15902215
Proofs?

>>15902205
Never had it.

>>15902205
I am 99% convinced that silicon valley trust fund kids pushed this shit on us because they realized they can push pet food onto the public for a profit. What boggles my mind is that it has no animal products in it and yet it smells like fucking cat food. if I ever get a pet I'm going to make homemade pet food, I don't trust these new silicon valley startups and I don't trust pet food companies now to boot.

>>15902205
I eat meat for proteins, not for enjoyment.
This shit is not real protein, it's fake protein for fags and women.
>b-but muh vegan bodybuilders
all juicers and frauds, if you honestly believe pic related is natty your veganism has rotted your brain.

>>15903750
>simple isn't a virtue
it absolutely is you gorilla nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8

Pretentious, overpriced, over-hyped food for virtue signaling fags and/or sad ass vegans who are on the edge of going back to real meat.

>>15906738
>not real protein
do you even know what protein is?

>>15907188
A chain of amino acids, of which legume proteins all lack several essential amino acids that can only be found in meat and animal products.

I was a vegetarian for about five years until today when I decided to go back to normal diet.

Fake meat has always repulsed me and I only ate it once, at a cookout when the host's sister was a vegetarian and knew I was too. She was really into fake meat and made me a burger. I ate it to be polite but it was pretty not great. Thinking about it made me nearly throw up, which I've only done once in the past 20 years when I got too drunk at Christmas.

Food should be what it is, and not try so hard to masquerade as something else. Black bean burgers and such do this fine. They are clearly veggies, not actual burgers, but can be tasty in their own way. But beyond meat is horrible and all humans should find it offensive.

Garbage

It all starts to make sense though when you realize it has a 30% profit margin

>>15907293
is that high or low

1. Its proven to be worse for the environment then substantionally grown beef, which several ranches have undergone studies that show they are carbon sinks while fake meat is a carbon dioxide producer
2. It has several compounds the FDA has not marked safe for human consumption
3. The protein isolates are expensive to produce, and the whole process is not even as close to carbon
4. Neo-estrogens are bad for me
5. It costs too much
6. It doesn't taste good

Id rather eat a vegetarian dish than this fake trash.

>>15902205
I’m not gonna even try this shit once

It tends to be much better than meat resource-wise

>>15907882
yea okay sources nigga?

>>15902205
Tastes good

>>15902366
Seething fag, I'll keep eating meat.

>>15902222
are these your dogs?
they are so cute!

>>15902205
Waste of resources, just eat vegetables if you want to be a vegetarian/vegan.
Imitation meats, cheeses, etc always have and always will fall short because their limiting factor is quite literally in the name; imitation.
Comparing it to a whopper/[insert fast food item] is disingenuous because those products already suck.
I wouldn't eat a whopper before and I won't eat one now just because you made it all filler instead of mostly filler.
Get good at cooking vegetarian/vegan meals that stand on their own two feet and I'll gladly eat it. Don't try to make up for what something lacks with a shitty substitute when you should be highlighting what it has instead.

>>15907232
Something tells me you failed biology and chemistry

>>15902205
tofu taste like absolutely nothing
seitan is downright disgusting

the only thing taste somewhat decent is pic related

>>15909310
Literally which part is wrong?

>>15902205
I'm nervous that as politics and general opinions shift that so will subsidies and these will become cheaper while real meat gets more expensive using my tax dollars to do it. But I have no problem in general. Some veggie burgers can be pretty good.

actual meat is actually good for you, unlike this highly processed junk.

>>15909250
It still consumes way less ressources than the equivalent meat product for the same tasting experience, at least for fast food quality products. I do agree that it's preferable to keep high quality meat production, but most people that eat burgers, pizzas and spam wouldn't see the difference

>>15902205
Im vegan and I spit on people who eat this shit. Just eat the damn vegetables.

>>15909090
I recall one study about White Oaks farm in GA or something like that

Their grazing practices sequester a lot of carbon in the soil, which balances out 100% of their emissions from cattle production, and 85% of their total emission (they have more stuff going on than just cows).

Regenerative grazing can be pretty amazing, but mainstream beef production is pretty much the exact opposite

>>15910046
implying the cattle baron mafia will kneel to politicians without a fight

>>15909250
i totally agree with this. love eating vegetarian mostly, but i hate when people just 'replace' meat. that said, i unironically like boca burgers. not cus they taste like meat, but i do enjoy them. as for beyond meat, it doesn't taste that good and it's just not a replacement for beef. i haven't tried the sausage.

>>15909728
i like tofu. it just gives body to whatever sauce you're using. probably an unpopular opinion here but i do enjoy eating it.

>>15902205
absolute garbage.

>>15902205
It's a complete waste of time.

>>15902366
This is why vegans are hated.
Free-range cows are happy to provide milk, and chickens literally menstruate eggs. That's as cruelty-free as it gets.

>>15906312
just look at the ingredient list, and macros

Spoiler: it's shit

>>15902205
>Your honest opinion on fake meat?

Waste of money. Sick of vegans saying they're healthier. Worked with vegans, sold food to vegans, dated a vegan. They only eat filler junk food. S0ibean and canola oil in everything. They won't eat bacon but will eat doritos and oreos by the pound. Won't drink milk in their tea but will drink soda, oat """"""""""milk""""""""".
The worst is when they get to their stage of veganism where they ask to SMELL your food. If you're eating a burger or whatever, they just stare at it, they ask to smell it. Its fucked.

Fake meat is the future, because we're nuking the ocean, they'll ban cows etc to "prevent diseases" and "save the environment" and then we won't get a choice. Enjoy meat while you can, your children's children will ask how it tasted.

>>15910418
meds

>>15905179

I love how this is the only show where a brit couldn't "fix" americans

>>15910424

nah mediterraneans have good food I love greek salad, hummus, falafel etc they know how to do vegetarian food right thanks for your input tho :^)

>>15910397
Birds don't menstruate. Most mammals don't even menstruate.

It's just a fad that will hopefully pass. The hip new thing now is pretending to care about the enviroment, animal welfare, and agriculture mostly because a lot of the tech guys who missed the ship during the dot com bubble of the 90s and early 00s realized there is a profit in agriculture and farming. Expect industries like food and wine to be filled with lots of SJW shit in the next five years

>>15904818
That doesn't look so bad. Apple extract could go though

>>15910038
this part
>essential amino acids that can only be found in meat and animal products
essential amino acids means you cannot synthesize them and that they must be eaten

I think it’s strange that vegans would champion a product meant to give a “realistic simulation” of what they consider to be the morally reprehensible act of eating meat.
Doesn’t that make it the culinary equivalent of a loli sexdoll?

>>15910603
"Oh, you eat meat? Might as well rape a child! It's the exact same thing morally"

Is this how vegans think?

>>15910579
yes, and some are only found in meat eggs and dairy

>>15910634
nope. meat and dairy might contain all essential amino acids, but so does a meal of corn and beans

>>15903635
beyond meat has an 8.5 billion dollar market cap right now. that's definitely a place.

>>15904938
such a bitch to clean up that stuff sticks and burns and smells like shit. boca burgers are money and like you said, arent' trying to be hamburgers. they're just a different food.

>>15910612
I know you’re being retardedly hyperbolic.
However, they do flat-out say meat is torture/murder.

>>15902222
Iggy!

>>15902260
>lack of protein
This is big for me too. There just isn't enough protein for gains. inb4 some /fit/shit telling me how he got shredded eating pinecones or some shit.

>>15902268
I agree. Vegan food is severely limited, but is best when doing its own thing...

>>15910674
Which one provides b12? I noticed cobalamin isn't on your list.

>>15910834
we were talking about amino acids, not enzyme cofactors
Did you not know the difference, or were you just in a hurry to shit on vegans and failed to read carefully?

>>15902205
impossible is breddy gud, and from what i've read it'll be indistinguishable from meat within a decade.
beyond is edible, but i'd never order it.

>>15904385
i dont think there are any local organic farms in my city and i had to sell my car because it kept getting broken into

>>15910733
yeah but do you remember AOL?

>>15902205
Garloids are fine you just have to make sure you water them to stop the screaming.

>>15910733
>investors like it that means it's good!
Are you retarded?