/ck/ - Food & Cooking

No

>>15898334
Sure, just don't be a thirdworlder (or an Amerishitter)

>>15898340
This.

>>15898340
Reminder, europe has more cases of food poisoning and a far worse track record of food safety than the US

>>15898351
>Europe is one country

>>15898351
Sure, if you count Eastern European countries kek. We're talking North-Western Europe here, incel

>>15898340
Whats the difference?

>>15898340
>>15898351
/ck/ - /int/ with food

>>15898363
the US - albeit undeniably a disgusting cultureless shithole - is not a third world country

>>15898334
eating shit raw is for subhumans and the meat would have been 100x better if not minced and cooked properly

>>15898377
>t. incel who sustains himself on tendies his fat dumb mom cooks for him

>>15898388
projection
keep eating raw shit pretending its "high class" and "sophisticated" lmao
post body

>>15898395
post bank statement, gf, and friend circle, incel shitter

>>15898377
If your meat has no taste when it's raw, then your meat is shit.

>>15898401
>wont post body
>>15898406
what does that have to do with anything I said?
also they season steak tartar you know, its not just raw meat

>>15898361
Which still has no actionable tolerance levels for foreign substances, cope more dumb brit. Your food standards are medieval.

>>15898432
Britain isn't European, retard

>>15898432
>north-western europe
>brit
holy fuck i hate am*ricans so much

>>15898334
>steak
>clearly ground beef

>>15898334
only if prepared properly

>>15898334
I ate it at a fancy place and didn't die it's just about quality.
Still sucked though the texture of raw ground meat is gross so it's not even worth it.

>>15898334
ground not minced
the fuck

>>15898432
>Imagine being a mutt and calling out actual developed countries for poor food standards

>>15898638
>An entire spoon of freshly grated garlic
I can just imagine the burn

>>15898334
Well

>>15898759
Steak tartare isn't ground beef you stupid fucking retard

>>15898900
Fine its technically minced, I've had it where its minced so fine its practically ground and where it was a chunkier mince. Sucked both ways so it doesn't really matter.

>>15898638
Murdered it with the load of ketchup

>>15898946
Do you understand it's not just raw meat? I'm biased because I'm from central Europe, but we eat this stuff like you eat corn syrup

>>15899068
>it's not just raw meat?
yeah it has an egg yolk, some pepper and salt as well? wow

>>15899081
No, you merishart, there's 14 spices in there.

>>15899306
wow, spices! that definitely makes it a whole lot different than just raw meat!
im european btw, stay mad and in poverty slavshit

>>15899313
Well yeah, it does make it different, the spices make a dish, any dish really.

>>15899345
the anon you originally replied to had a problem with the texture, no amount of spices is going to fix that

>>15898638
unappetizing brown mess

>>15899345
its still raw ground beef?

>>15899358
And I'm trying to explain that what he had isn't anything remotely close to a proper steak tartare.
>>15899375
No, it's not ground beef. Are you illiterate?

>>15899396
>what he had isn't anything remotely close to a proper steak tartare.
it doesnt fucking matter the texture doesnt change, stop being such an autist will you

>>15899407
Yes it fucking does if he got ground beef, because it's NOT ground beef. Are you fucking retarded?

>>15899417
if one doesnt like the texture of raw meat it doesnt make a difference whether its ground beef or small chopped up pieces
this is legitimate autism

>>15899396
Texture guy here, as I responded I've had it more than once just to make sure I didn't get a shit version. Im pretty sure I just don't like the feel of raw meat no matter how minced or unminced. I actually did like the way it tasted in almost all the versions I had.

My gf likes it so I always try it whenever she orders it.

I used to work at a brewery that had a really pretentious head chef who didnt cut it in good restaurants so was over compensating at our grease hole and tried to do tartare, it was decent but so many goddamn people sent it back it was hilarious lol, the dishwashers threw away so much raw meat

>>15899417
ok which spice magically ungrounds or unbeefs the ground beef?

>>15899417
I am that fucking guy and I've already said that yes I know it's minced. What I had wasn't ground, but sometimes it's extremely minced to where it feels almost ground, sometimes it's less minced and chunkier, and either way I haven't liked it.

>>15898334
the beef cooks the egg

>>15898334
it's perfectly safe retard
the heat of the meat cooks the egg

>>15899454
>>15899455

>>15899421
It's almost like paste, spreadable on a buttered crispy toast. The texture is NOTHING like raw meat. It can be vastly different how it's done. I would never eat raw ground beef and I usually go through a pound of steak tartare a week.
>>15899422
See above. What do you mean "order" it. Don't you buy it at a butcher's shop?

>>15899460
yep, its autism

>>15899461
Well I'm sorry if you're autistic, but talk to your mother why she hadn't aborted you, then we wouldn't have to deal with illiterate retards

>>15899432
Why would you unbeef the beef? If you don't like beef then don't eat beef, is this concept too difficult to understand? No spice ungrounds it, because it's not ground beef. I hope this also isn't too difficult to understand. Pic related is what a steak tartare should look like; spreadable texture almost like pate, rich dark colour from all the spices, spread on buttered toasted toast.

>>15899460
You say the texture is nothing like raw beef, but it is indeed just a bunch of chopped raw beef and spices, it's not ceviche or anything so the texture doesn't change that much from just plain raw beef from what I've had. Oh and when I say "minced" I mean finely hand chopped as opposed to ground btw, I know in euroland mince can refer to ground beef so that may have caused some confusion.

In america I've only ever seen it in fancy restaurants. If you were to get it from a butchers youd just have to buy a steak and chop it yourself.

>>15899583
Here you can buy it at butchers everywhere, and that's also the only way to get it. I've never seen it offered in a restaurant before. It's a common breakfast meal here, like a weekly or a monthly thing.
I personally don't like it minced, I like it fine almost like patte (like on my pic), which is 99% of it available here. I have never seen it ground.
It's not considered fancy at all, it's really a common breakfast, sort of like I'd imagine peanut butter jelly in US.

>>15899583
Oh and I meant texture compared to rare steak. It's not chewy at all. So the texture is not like raw meat, it's really more like patte, but not quite.

>>15898334
If you get your meat from the local butcher shop, you'll be fine.
If the restaurant gets their meat from a local butcher shop, that's also fine.

>>15898334
Not really. You're always taking a risk on undercooked or raw food, no matter where it's from or how it's prepared.

carpaccio is the better raw dish

>>15898488
Yeah, all those truth-telling Americans. So stupid. Clearly we're superior because we're misinformed or just straight trolling on 4chan haha.

>>15898334
better to eat this
just use some caution
my neighborhood is rife with Lebanese restaurants however I wouldn't order Kibbeh in all of them

>>15898340
>thirdworlder (or an Amerishitter)
Same thing.

>>15900227
how does that differ, its just more compressed?

>>15898334
If it’s properly sourced, cleaned and handled, yes, safe. If it’s a Walmart value pack, no, don’t do it.

>>15898638
>webm very much unrelated

>>15898432
>CHLORINATED CHICKEN

>>15900737
does america have no fucking food regulations or why would raw beef be worse in walmart than elsewhere, safety-wise?

>>15900622
it's raw lamb
and tasty

>>15898334
Love beef and steak tartare.

No 99% chance of death.

>>15900745
Mass production will inevitably succumb to human error just by odds alone. I’m not saying every piece of Walmart beef has been mishandled or tainted but I’m way more inclined to trust a butcher that has a personal relationship with his supplier, breaks down the primal cuts himself, and relies on quality of his product to sustain his business.

>>15900827
so youre just paranoid and its not actually a fault at americas regulations and enforcement of said regulations?
phew, for a second it almost sounded like a third-world country

>>15900856
America’s not a third world country. It’s managed to squander all of its advantages and become a first world shithole without the issues that plague poorer nations.

>>15898361
If you guys get to rope in The South, we get to rope in Eastern Europe.

>>15900963
United states is one country, europe is a continent.

>>15900963
>If you guys get to rope in The South, we get to rope in Eastern Europe.

roger, that

>>15900856
Sure, you hold in to that next time there’s an E. Coli outbreak at one of Walmart’s processing plants and the tainted meat gets distributed to an entire region before they issue the recall.

>>15898334
That looks like an especially shitty iteration of that dish but you'd probably be fine if it's from a place that knows how to prepare it. Would not try doing that shit yourself unless you actually grind the meat yourself. That shit you get out of a package at the supermarket is not the same thing.

>>15898334
Can a euro fag or “cultured” individual explain why the fuck this dish exists.

>>15901072
goddamn it must suck to live in america
in normal countries any factory-packaged ground beef in protective atmosphere is perfectly safe for raw consumption

>>15901161
We have butchers too but personally I wouldn't trust most supermarket beef even though you'd probably again, be fine but I almost wouldn't take the risk. E. coli is a shitty enough thing to have that it's not particularly worth the supposed chances.

Sucks maybe, if you're an ignorant asshole? I mean most everywhere has an actual butcher if you know where to look, it's just that people don't.

i get it from a restaurant that has tie ins to a prestigious veterinary/agricultural school and it kind of reminds me of a big mac

>>15898334
>is it safe
Depends on who prepared it
>would I eat it?
No I don't like the texture and I like steak to have a more complexity to its texture.

>>15901216
I think beef only gets it's proper taste when the fat is rendered so I really could not give a shit about any of this tartare whatthefuck horseshit.

>>15900827
who talks this way?
stop writing and just tell us what you mean
there's a voice in there
keep talking

>>15901288
I said what I meant. It’s not my fault you have a grade 3 reading level.

>>15901161
On our first date I took her to a fancy restaurant. Told her, "Be adventurous order for us."
Had tartar, it was fine. She had grilled salmon(cheater).
Married, 1st anniversary, we had moved from New York to Washington(I was in NY city for work for years, Everett was home), went into Seattle and did the same. Tartar, and grilled tilapia, they didn't have salmon at the moment (WTF Seattle?).
We did it every anniversary. Years later, take a second honeymoon, ended up in Paris on the anniversary day. I had tartar, she had salmon. A few hours later I was violently ill and spent 2 days in the hotel room. We had ate just about the same stuff everywhere else, until our anniversary meal.
thnx France.

>>15898334
Depends.
Ground meat has more surface area for bacteria to grow on before it is put in the grind. Thats why cooking burger thoroughly is more important than cooking a steak where steak has a more limited surface that becomes safe from searing the outside.

If preparation is properly sanitized and/or appropriate mixings are used like acids you can eat raw meat in enjoyable dishes.

>>15901344
Spell check nixed my tartare.

>>15898638
>some dog food with your Chianti sir?

>>15901288
More steps in process = more chances for contamination. There, grug get now?

>>15898358
found the seething brexiter

Cooking food is a fucking meme. It was required when we were dumbass ape people and needed to burn the disease off of everything, but we've moved past that. Now that we've progressed as a society we have the liberty of eating everything raw, and it's perfectly safe. You know what? It fucking tastes better that way. Food was never meant to be cooked. There's a reason that literally no other animals prefers its food to be cooked over a fire and just eats things raw.

>>15901145
much of Europe is still struggling to understand electricity. Appliances like stoves, air conditioners, ice makers, and dryers are actually uncommon.

>>15898361
What the fuck are you talking about you moron

>>15901606
Europeans invented it, you fat sack of shit

>>15898351
I eat raw pork almost once a week and never got sick. Cope.

>>15901729

>>15898638
>raw meatloaf

lol no thanks

>>15901729
then why do you struggle with basic appliances? is that just too advanced for Europeans?

Also you faggots don't know how to properly count the number of floors in a hotel.

>>15898877
15 ingredients to make you forget or not taste disgusting raw mince. Literally why

>>15899494
15 spices to mask the fact you are eating disgusting mince beef, raw.

>>15898361
And if you don't count black population centers the US is essentially a Utopia, what's you're point?

>>15901797
seriously this. you can't afford the equipment or capacity to fucking cook meat?

>>15898334
Yes

I did not know that tartare triggers americlaps so much

>>15901344
Classical french banter

>>15902228
It's because raw meat other than fish is a rarity over here, IDK exactly why. You still find raw meat dishes in immigrant communities and places that haven't lost their roots. Blood sausage is in the exact same boat. Hell, head cheese freaks people out. When I bring lunch to work it's head cheese with some good mustard because I know nobody will steal it.

>>15902228
enjoy your unga bunga slop you primitive

Don't Germans eat some sort of raw pork that's literally got maggot eggs in it? Pearl flesh or something?

>>15898364
Literally just western Europeans too.
No one discusses /int/ shit on here, but its literally ALL they talk about.
My opinion of western europeans has sunk 10x since I started using /ck/

>>15902322
no, they eat mett(raw spiced hackfleich) with onions

>>15901933
sure thing johnny

>>15901595
> literally no other animals prefers its food to be cooked over a fire...

Was not aware critters had the option. Did squirrels invent fire or something?

Safer that the processed shit you eat otherwise.

>>15898334
Yeah, it's good shit.

>>15902343
Still better than all the fucking fast food threads.

>>15898638
If you're gonna put all that shit on it, might as well cook it too.

>>15898638
Cursed

>>15898358
Yes

>>15902277
I got some head cheese for you right here chap

>>15898361
Yes, the real Europe! Mashallah my brother, we have taught these savages food safety during our takeover. Their bloodlines will be dead in 50 years time anyway.

>>15900967
>United States
>50 separate states with their own governments and legislatures who joined into an economic and political union because the original articles of confederation led to trade issues, currency problems and squabbles between different states
>states are drastically different in local accents, customs, values, and laws to the point that something which is legal and fine in one state becomes a felony the moment you cross state lines
>central governing body with some balanced authority over the member states
>yOuRE oNe CoUnTrY, eUrOpe iS a cOnTinEnt!

>European Union
>economic and political union to resolve trade issues, currency problems, and petty squabbles between the 27 member nations
>member nations are drastically different in local language, customs, values, and laws
>central governing body with some balanced authority over the member states
>eURoPE iS jUsT a cOnTINenT!!

>>15904350
only a retarded american globalist shill can think american states and european countries are in any way comparable

>>15904443
you're right, American states tend to be bigger in either scale or economy or both

>>15901145
it supposedly came to europe from the tatars aka the mongols
it's really no weirder than rare steak or sushi

>>15901606
I think americans just bought into all this useless shit in the 50s, the economic boom enabled companies to trick them into buying and using completely redundant appliances like dryers (literally just leave your clothes to air dry overnight and they'll last you way longer) or ice makers (why not just use an ice tray?)

>>15904350
>states are drastically different in local accents
yeah, like in every other country on earth. German has way more regional variation than American English. if you really think that's comparable to the difference between countries with completely different languages and cultures that were literally genociding eachother less than a century ago then idk what to tell you

>>15904612
>noooo my city with 30 people in it who speak austrian german is its own dialect theres no way that large swaths of immigrants from every european country all speaking english could form regional accents!

>>15903550
Uhm... Sweatie....

>>15901595
>My post was silenced

>>15904669
>no reading comprehension
is this what american education does to people? lol
American English does have noticable accents, while German has dialects that are often incomprehensible even to other germans and Europe as a whole has languages that aren't even related to eachother a lot of the time, in some cases as far apart as English is from Chinese

>>15905166
so you're saying Germans don't have the discipline to maintain their own language. being so weak-minded that the minute they aren't all together they fail at the sole purpose of languge.

>>15904485
as if that has anything to do with the matter, youre so retarded its incredible
as expected from am*rican education

>>15905201
>the burgerfat cries out in pain as his globalist worldview shatters

>>15901288
u r uneducated

>>15905166
>american english doesn't have dialects

>>15905201
americans have accents too, dumb europoor

>>15905214
>>15905203
cope harder europoors
your heads are so far up your own asses that you don't even see you're going to being colonized by Africans who apparently have better language skills then you.

>>15901344
Yeah French restaurant have this nasty habit of grounding up the beef and leaving it there for the day... depending on the original quality of the beef, temperature and overall kitchen cleanliness, let's just say your experience may vary. I just usually order a steak aller-retour, almost as raw and much safer to eat.

>>15905291
keep moving those goalposts anon, im sure you will sleep better at night

>>15898334
ask your local butcher if they ground the meat themselves; if they do, its probably fine. buying meat from a chain-grocer and doing so yourself is also generally OK.

ground meat that has been cut prior to being shipped-off could potentially send you to the ER, given it has several times more surface area & is pretty evenly-marinated in its own expunged juices as it rests, which makes it a major bacteria-magnet

Literally eat this for breakfast lunch and dinner in Belgium.
You fucking troglodytes.

>>15898351
Japan eats more raw eggs than anywhere in the world (except chinks as of only recently) and they have the least amount of salmonella cases. Turns out raw cookie dough is dangerous because of the raw flour more than the raw egg.

>>15898334
ye

>>15905465
Its about pasteurization of eggs for salmonella not about eggs just being bad. The bad stuff is on the outside not the inside. What countries require it vary, but in the countries that do not require it you can buy pasteurized eggs still.

I think most of the problem with this meal would come from the raw beef as theres many more times that that could get contaminated than the egg.

If yo bodies used to it. Some can and some cant. Just need to have a Chad stomach.

>>15905419
nice larp

>>15898334
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>>15898358
this is true

>>15905291
meds. now.

>>15898334
I get what they were going for, but I'm not so sure if I approve of it or not.