/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15805814
Are johnnie walker black and double black good?

I need something on the smokey side that isn't $60+

>he adds water and/or ice to his whisk(e)y

>>15805858
anime neet PLEASE let me add water, its 132 proof this time

>>15805864

>>15805814
how do you niggers taste all these "notes" and fruits in whiskey? it all just tastes the same to me. and that taste is shit.

>>15805868
Take TINY sips and roll it around the tongue for several seconds before swallowing.

>>15805853
They have barely detectable smoke and are generally lacking in flavor intensity or interestingness. Would not recommend.

>>15805868
how long have you been drinking?

>>15805814
How is Cordhu?

>>15805858
what do you drink tough guy?

>>15805886
like 2 years but im a very light drinker.
>>15805870
just tried it, no difference. I also tried the weird aerating slurping thing. I think I might just be a tastelet desu

>>15805904
I'm drinking Ardbeg 10 at the moment, but stronger whiskies like A'bunadh and OGD 114 are regulars in my cabinet as well.

>>15805914
if u just started with whisky recently it will be difficult, but its also possible that you're a tastelet. there's some way to find out with a piece of paper and some dye just look it up

Drank fireball and liked it but want something a bit higher class. No idea what to choose.

>>15805858
>he shoots his whiskey

>>15805964
>he chills his whiskey

>>15805957
Do you want something sweet? Something oaky/woody? Something smoky? Something spicy? Something intense? Something "smooth" and easy to drink?

Everyone here seems to drink $80 scotch and $25 bourbon. Isn't there some nicer bourbons that cost more?

>>15806078
>Isn't there some nicer bourbons that cost more?
There are, but the quality doesn't increase proportionally to the price. Diminishing returns start hitting pretty hard after the OGD114 price point and REALLY hard after the Woodford Reserve Double Oaked price point.

Part of why there's more expensive Scotches than expensive bourbons is because bourbon is aged in new, charred oak, whereas Scotches are typically not aged in new oak.
New oak has a SHITLOAD of flavor to give off and as such it's really fucking easy to overage a bourbon. Most bourbons don't taste very good when aged much beyond 9 years; there are exceptions.

>>15806111
Sneed

>>15806098
Is that to say that really good bourbon is relatively cheap or that there is no really good bourbon?

>>15806054
something cinnamony

>>15806216
then just keep drinking fireball. it's barely even a whiskey. actual whiskey doesn't taste like sugar and cinnamon

>>15806216
Regarding whiskies that aren't actually cinnamon-flavored whiskies but have cinnamon-like notes, Old Grand-Dad 114.

>>15806216
Jefferson's very small batch bourbon. Has a drier sort of cinnamon and pecan flavor

>>15806187
>really good bourbon is relatively cheap
This.

>>15805814
>someone calls in asking for [blanton's/yamazaki/van winkle/eagle rare/other difficult to obtain or expensive whiskey]
>lie to them even if we have it because we don't get a lot and don't make a big profit off of it and it's supposed to go to friends of the establishment
yeah sorry big guy, how about you go grab some knob creek off the shelf?

>>15806187
what passes as above average can be attained for a moderate price in the US market(mainly if your spirits arent state controlled), but what is now average is not good bourbon. its so mass produced that the middle ground becomes the vast majority of the market. not to mention they cut as many corners as possible and still have the audacity to cheat the customer with bullshit stories and marketing as well as over charging on top of the distribution and stores side getting their cut. typical corporate greed.

really good bourbon is generally not available to the commercial market because the richfag owners reserve it for their richfag associates or some hacks at a ranked tasting. normies get to enjoy somewhat palatable swill at a premium.

also the general characteristics of bourbon is on the short side of simple, whereas scotch has a multitude of tiers and categories in its profile.

>>15806329
*CLICK-CLACK*

I wanna try this

>>15806339
or this

>>15806339
>>15806342
they are good king

>>15806342
or this
make up my mind for me idk what to get

>>15806345
bulleit has the coolest bottle so go with that

>>15806349
the first 2 are kentucky bourbons
while the last one is scotch whisky made in Scotland
can you actually tell the difference?
which ones are more enjoyable for casual drinking?

>>15806352
>the first 2 are kentucky bourbons
>while the last one is scotch whisky made in Scotland
>can you actually tell the difference?can you actually tell the difference?

>>15806349
>

>>15806352
latter 2 are Diageo. its a shill

>>15806362
>>15806363
???

i've had le based bulleit bourbonorino thanks to /ck/'s recommendation. bretty gud brehhhhs.

i'm ready to try something new now. what's the next maymay whiskyroo i could sipperoo?

>>15806363
what the fuck is 'Diageo'???

>>15806422
I ordered one of Knob Creek and one of Bulleit
gonna try them both and see which I like more

>whisky general
Never seen so much schizoposting fanboyism and butthurt around something that matters so little

>>15806422
wild turkey 101

>>15805868
Unironically, the key to having a "good" palette for alcohol notes is to have a wide and varied diet from all sorts of cuisines. That way, you'll have maximized your flavor "memory" and have an easier time teasing out flavors beyond "it burns" and "maybe cinnamon and vanilla?"

>>15806078
George T. Stagg if you can find it. Big spice bomb but also very delicious. Outside of the Buffalo Trace antique collection there's also Old Forester's whiskey row releases. OF 1910 was very fruity and chocolatey.

>>15805814
>IRISH EDITION
Seems like everybody likes Red Breast 12 here. It's good but everytime I drink it I can't help thinking it would be better at a little higher abv. It's kinda overpriced for a 40% ABV whiskey imo.

Why does scotch use used barrels instead of new charred oak that gives it flavor faster? Why don't they age it in stainless steel vats with charred sticks dumped inside so none of it evaporates?

finally nutted up and decided which one gets to go in my free decanter

>>15808673
There's literally a cask strength release of the 12 year old Redbreast. It's very good.
Most whiskies either have intense flavors and are unbalanced or lack flavor intensity but are balanced. The 12 year old Redbreast CS is one of the rare whiskies with both flavor intensity and balance.

>>15809156
because then it wouldnt be Scotch ;^)

also times are being changed and soon you will probably see a trend of NAS whisky aged in "virgin" oak, as the powers that be will start to push it hard, as what is now core range ages become lower in stock.

>>15805814
I like it a lot actually

Received these today.

>it took me lots of time and hard work to DECYPHER this whisky but eventually, i was able to break it down to its atoms

Rare Breed isn't as good as it used to be

>>15806363
>if more than one Diageo item shows up in someone's recommendations in a minuscule whiskey thread on a podunk forum, it's a paid shill
Your pattern-recognition is overperforming. See a doctor. You should be on antipsychotics.

>>15805853
go for compass box king street glasgow blend, it's nicely smoky without being overbearing like a full islay

>>15810127
bought a bottle today

>>15810185
last time i had it rare breed was a blend of 6-8-12 year old barrels but now they don't say that on the website

>>15810198
NAS is the new meme.

>>15805853
Double black is good for a blend and should be around the same price as black. Nothing stands out too much and it's well balanced. Try to find Talisker storm or Ardbeg 10. They should both be under $60.

>>15806078
I'd rather have wild turkey 101 or knob creek small batch than spend $80 on a bourbon. The difference in quality is smaller and there's no need to age a bourbon for 20+ years. The difference between good and great scotch is much more vast.

>>15809629
You should drink more water.

>>15810434
This post is a paid Diageo shill.

>>15810545
Unironically take your meds.

>>15809180
Yeah I know, I have a bottle of the cs. What you're talking about is irrelevant to my point.

My coworker gifted me this bottle and it's been forever since I've had anything Macallan. It's not something I'd get for myself but you know what, it's a nice whisky. Never trust /ck/'s opinion on anything.

>>15811225
I might use some stimmy money for this only because I saw it in a james bond movie

>>15811225
it is perfectly unremarkable, no harsh flavors but also little else besides sweet cereal, honey, and ginger
it is not the worst value because johnnie walker blue exists but it's up there

Why is larceny better than makers mark?

I know this is a whisky thread, but since there's no Rum General, please recommend good rums to someone who knows dick-all about rum but has had plenty of whisky

>>15811786
I'd also like a good rum that i can drink like i do whiskey to try.

>>15811786
there was some rum anon here last thread just be patient

>>15811786
If you like whiskey try the Appleton estate 12 year old.

I posted last week and got some recommendations, thanks again for those lads. A couple of questions:

1. I got Nikka from the barrel and really like the smokiness in it. Is that smoke the same type of flavour that’s in peated whiskies, or is it something different?

2. I tried Bufallo Trace as my first bourbon. It’s fine, but I didn’t like it as much as the Scotches I have tasted. Trying to figure out if its bourbon or just this type that I’m not a fan of. It kind of tasted a bit thin, like a lower concentrated version of whiskey. Is that normal for bourbon vs. Scotch?

>>15805814
Baste and Powers-pilled.
This is the best Irish whiskey for under $30 other than Jameson Caskmates Stout

>>15806446
It refers to a fascist mega corporation that robs pennies from poorfags

>>15805814
>drinking alcohol contaminated with fusel oils and other toxic shit instead of just drinking it in its pure form
DO. AMERICANS. REALLY.

>>15813481
>flavour bad

>>15813210
>1. I got Nikka from the barrel and really like the smokiness in it. Is that smoke the same type of flavour that’s in peated whiskies, or is it something different?
I literally bought Nigga Whisky from the Barrel yesterday and am on my second pour right now, and yes, that smoke you're getting is the same peat smoke you'd get from Islay scotches, just more subdued. It's pretty decent stuff I might add.

>>15813511
Nice, that’s good to know. Will have to get some peated stuff soon.

>>15813488
Put some juice in it, you retard.

>>15811750
because maker's 46/CS/Single Barrel are the only makers worth a shit
Larceny is better than regular but worse than the special editions

>>15813481
If that's what 'contaminated' means to you, every breath you take is contaminated, you alkie retard.

>>15813210
>2. I tried Bufallo Trace as my first bourbon. It’s fine, but I didn’t like it as much as the Scotches I have tasted. Trying to figure out if its bourbon or just this type that I’m not a fan of. It kind of tasted a bit thin
Buffalo Trace is a $20 cocktail bourbon for mixing. If you can find it, try to get a bottle of Four Roses Single Barrel, which is like the standard for sipping bourbon

>>15814391
>low rye
>good cocktail bourbon
Pick one. OGD Bonded would be a much better cocktail bourbon around the same price.
Buffalo Trace is sipping bourbon for people who like boring things without intense flavors.

Alright lads, Im gonna finish uni in a couple of months and I wanna celebrate that by buying myself some nice whisky. I am an absolute begginer and the fanciest shit I've had was Gentleman Jack. So, can you recommend me something up to like 60€ that won't taste like engine oil? Probably nothing scotch cause that can be rough in taste, right?

>>15806339
teehee it says knob

>>15814881
>Probably nothing scotch cause that can be rough in taste, right?
Depends. Some of it is smokey peatbomb nonsense and deliberately so, but some of it is fruity and mellow as can be, practically irish.

>>15814185
true, larceny BP is god tier though, at least the B-whatever bottle i had.

anyone tried both this and the 10?
what is the difference?

Just pissed myself in me misses mum’s house lads what should I bloody do

>>15815243
Jump out the window and get home then call later with an excuse

>he doesn't drink bourbon

>>15815240
>what is the difference?
2

Any whiskey made by women of color? I'm trying to vote with my wallet.

>>15815654
You're a racist if you don't buy Indlovu.
https://www.ifitshipitshere.com/gin-made-from-elephant-dung/
>This is an exclusive gin for the person who loves the spirit of Africa – the freedom, the sunsets, the textures and the flavors of the African bush.
You DO love the spirit of Africa, right, anon? You're not a racist, are you?

>>15815643
so the 12 is better right?
its only like 5 bucks more for a 1L of 12y than the 700ml 10y here
and it's 43% instead of 40
I bought a bottle and so far I like it
Its kinda spicy

>>15815664
yeah if you get more liquid and older juice for an extra 5 dollars you should go for it. There are some whiskys that older expressions are actiually worse (Glendronach 15, for example, is their best product imo, and lots of peated whiskys lose out on the peatiness as they age--ardbeg, for example) but for the most part older will mean better integration and less hard edges

Only bottle of Glendronach 15 I ever had was slightly sulfured. A shame.
It was lovely mixed with Laphroaig, though.

>>15807715
Unless you have a hookup you will never find that or even Stagg Jr. these days.

what distinguishes stagg from other good bourbon?

>>15805957
Bait

>>15815791
Nothing, it's just barrel strength Buffalo Trace mashbill #1. George T Stagg is 15 years old and Stagg Jr. is 8 or 9 years. Stagg Jr. used to be one of the best values in bourbon but everyone has a hard on for Buffalo Trace at the moment so it's impossible to come by anywhere near MSRP without a connection.

>>15806339
Know creek is pretty good, but I prefer Woodford reserve

>>15805814
For me it's tullamore dew 18 year

>>15810434
Agree on Talisker, I think it gets the smokeyness right

>>15810434
>double black
bad whisky
>talisker storm
even worse whisky
>ardbeg 10
good whisky

>>15815875
Considering taste is subjective, not gonna take your word for it

>>15815875
Accurate post.

Only the finest.

>>15815969
>light whiskey

Nothing else ive tried is so drinkable as this fine lil 10 year old here.

>>15815947
ardbeg 10 is pretty fucking good

>>15816038
even the select is bretty gud and its my go to cheap swill for when im low on fancy shit

>>15805853
>Are johnnie walker black and double black good?
Don't know.

>I need something on the smokey side that isn't $60+
Ardbeg Wee Beastie was only $40 at one of my local grocery stores. That's $40USD. And it is on the "smokey side".

>>15806329
Eagle Rare is garbage though.

>>15806111
Isn't there a law in the US preventing barrels from being used more than once (or twice?) for aging liquors? I heard they sell those barrels to European distillers who don't have that restriction.

>>15816343
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/5.22
>“Bourbon whisky”, “rye whisky”, “wheat whisky”, “malt whisky”, or “rye malt whisky” is whisky produced at not exceeding 160° proof from a fermented mash of not less than 51 percent corn, rye, wheat, malted barley, or malted rye grain, respectively, and stored at not more than 125° proof in charred new oak containers; and also includes mixtures of such whiskies of the same type.
>Whiskies conforming to the standards prescribed in paragraphs (b)(1)(i) and (ii) of this section, which have been stored in the type of oak containers prescribed, for a period of 2 years or more may optionally be further designated as “straight”; for example, “straight bourbon whisky”, “straight corn whisky”, and whisky conforming to the standards prescribed in paragraph (b)(1)(i) of this section, except that it was produced from a fermented mash of less than 51 percent of any one type of grain, and stored for a period of 2 years or more in charred new oak containers may optionally be designated merely as “straight whisky”. No other whiskies may be designated “straight”. “Straight whisky” includes mixtures of straight whiskies of the same type produced in the same State.

>>15815984
>>15816381
>“Light whisky” is whisky produced in the United States at more than 160° proof, on or after January 26, 1968, and stored in used or uncharred new oak containers; and also includes mixtures of such whiskies. If “light whisky” is mixed with less than 20 percent of straight whisky on a proof gallon basis, the mixture shall be designated “blended light whisky” (light whisky - a blend).
So it's basically over 80 percent vodka.

>>15815643

>>15815654
There are some African whiskies. I suppose there might be some females that work in those distilleries.

>>15816409
>>15815654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehwSM9n_Ko

>>15805853
>johnnie walker black
I personally love it

>>15816426
$.01 was deposited into your account.
Sincerely,
Diageo

>>15806329
>bit higher class. No idea what to choose.
absolutely based

>>15816425
heh, people of mahogany complexion....

>>15816425
https://youtu.be/hh1Hn7uahi4

>>15816444
holy fuck, 0.4 more and I can buy a bubble gum!

>>15816306
that it is. but it seems all of buffalo trace products are hard to find. BT taste fine but 1.7L for $90 you are fucking mad.

why did newfags turn against eagle rare?

my russels reserve tastes like fucking cough syrup tonight, I can't recommend this stuff at all, its either too oaky or too medicinal

>>15816043
I meant the other two, people always say somethings bad but some people love it. I'll usually trust someone saying something good, but when someone says it's bad I have to try it for myself.

>>15816686
wild turkey has some iodiney barrels in stock that they used for the 17 year Master's Keep 3 years ago, assuming it was an intentional choice that panned out poorly. I also assume that they have younger barrels of it that you will occasionally get in a single barrel

>Angel's Envy

It just seems soooo overrated and swweeeet.

>>15806345
get the knob bro

>>15817316
you're right, it is
you should also be wary of any whiskey that has a wine advocate rating, they pay out the ass for those

>>15816686
this had a sour green apple flavor for me

>>15817450
you the one that got it from their gf around xmas time?

>>15805858
A drop or 2 of water enhances the flavour anime faglord

>>15817799
>enhances
Dilutes.

anyone switched from whisky to wine?

>>15817848
WINE?! FUCK THAT SHIT!!!

>>15817848
No, but I enjoy some port on some nights in lieu of whisk(e)y.

>>15817848
No, completely different purposes. I like wine with a meal but if I drink enough to feel it the buzz makes me feel drowsy and headachey.

>>15817848
barleywine maybe

>>15817848
I dabble in wine now but just because beer does nothing to my body anymore and sometimes i want something cool to drink that's boozy

>>15817848
not yet
but its next on my list after tequila

>>15818138
Your list? What list?
Does everyone here have a list?
Should I have a list?

Anyone else try this? For me the sherry is overpowering basically any other flavor.

>>15818286
when your just starting out, your list should be be pretty big

>>15818505
Oh, yeah, haha, I got my list right here, heh.
Now where did I put that danged... heh... you see the funny thing about my list is, uhh *loosens tie*, well the whole thing really is, uhh *wipes sweat from brow* I mean shucks, I could've swore I had it in my front pocket here... if you'll excuse me for a moment...

>>15818529
maybe its more about goals.

>>15817848
I didn't switch, but i enjoy dry sherry sometimes

>>15818286
non a list so much as a phase
phase 1 was wanky craft beers, doesn't take long to figure out theres only so many different IPAs and Stouts before you find 3 or 4 to have in rotation
Im almost at that point with whisky now
I have a gin that I like
I want to learn more about tequila next and try all the different types
Then I'll do the same with wine, my current knowledge is basically "red" or "white"

>>15817839
Whatever you say Mr. Belvedere

>>15817839
You sound like a guy who'll put out a oil fire with water

What bourbon would you guys recommend for a scorch drinker?

>>15819407
Yes. I recommend scorch drinkers to drink bourbon.

>>15817316

Angel's Envy had a port finish that came in a fancy red wood box about 8-10 years ago that was hands down the BEST whiskey I've ever had. It will never be back and this haunts me every day.

Knob Creek single barrel is fantastic, always consistent high quality, and better than almost anything else I've ever had over 50 dollars. Fuck Woodford Reserve.

Four Roses Small Batch is better than Single Barrel.

If you can find it or have it shipped, Peach Street Bourbon is an excellent whiskey.
http://peachstreetdistillers.com/spirits#whiskey

Also, 291 bourbon and rye are fantastic.
https://distillery291.com/whiskeys/

If you can't find those, drink Jim Beam. You're welcome.

t. whiskeyfag

>>15820177
I'm gonna buy single batch select when I go to the liquor store, but I have to ask how you could say the single barrel is just worse than the small batch. Aren't the single barrels different across the 10 recipes and some might be what you want and some not? I prefer consistency which is why I choose small batch, but I heard there's some good single barrels.

>>15820177
>Our Fresh is a small batch, un-aged whiskey distilled in a copper pot still. Developed as an American clear spirit for mixology, it has a distinct flavor for enhancing the traditional cocktail.
>Our White Dog is a small batch whiskey distilled in a copper pot still and aged in an American white oak barrel for less than two weeks- allowing the essence of the grains to be enjoyed and the distiller’s craft recognized.
What the fuck

>>15821061
???

>>15821164
"Unaged whiskey"
Besides not legally being whiskey, why isn't this just vodka?

>>15820177
>Four Roses Small Batch is better than Single Barrel.
I can't agree with this in good faith, did you come to that conclusion in a blind tasting?

>>15821255
That's why they call it Fresh and White Dog?
Vodka is distilled on on column stills to 90% and then filtered several times to get a neutral spirit. This here is distilled to a lower proof with lots of the congeners left in the distillate (on pot stills, even though that doesn't matter as much as some people think because you can get fat distillates out of a column still, too if you go lower with the proof).

>>15821313
Them calling it by weird names in addition to calling it whiskey doesn't make it not weird

>>15805858
a little water enhances the flavor you pseudo intellectual faggot. Go to any distiller and ask them and they'll say the same

>>15821998
>enhances
Dilutes.
>appeal to authority fallacy

>>15822181
Yes by definition you are diluting it. It still enhances the flavor.

>>15822239
It just makes the whiskey at the very top of the glass more flavorful and the rest of the whiskey less flavorful, and the overall content of the whiskey glass less flavorful. It's dumb.

>>15822258
what are you even talking about? The water diffuses through all the whiskey. It's not like oil and water. It completely mixes

>>15822295
>Dilution of cask-strength whisky improves its taste by increasing the propensity of taste compounds at the liquid-air interface
Adding water makes guaiacol float to the top. Thus, it literally
>makes the whiskey at the very top of the glass more flavorful and the rest of the whiskey less flavorful, and the overall content of the whiskey glass less flavorful
exactly as I said.

>>15822181
>fallacy fallacy

>>15822322
Er, meant to post link with this to a study from which
>Dilution of cask-strength whisky improves its taste by increasing the propensity of taste compounds at the liquid-air interface
is a quote from but "our system thinks it's spam."
Google that phrase in quotes and the study will come up.

>>15822326
>fallacy fallacy fallacy

>>15822322
you're always sipping from the top though

>>15822295
If you pour water in whisky you can literally see some of the oil phase separate

>>15822355
Where do you think the guaiacol that floats to the top goes when you sip on it, anon?

Here's the real redpill that will blow your fucking mind:

If you're taking as small of sips as you should, diluting your whiskey with water or ice is completely unnecessary AS YOUR FUCKING SALIVA WILL DILUTE IT MORE THAN ENOUGH TO SEPARATE THE GUAIACOL.

>>15822364
Not really but nice try

>>15811786
Smith and Cross Traditional Jamaican. It's honesty very similar to some bourbons

>>15816301
>And it is on the "smokey side"

understatement wednesday

>>15822730
>Smith and Cross Traditional Jamaican. It's honesty very similar to some bourbons
Wot? I absolutely agree with the recommendation as it's a outstanding, but I would say it's the most "scotchy" rum I have tried and I don't really find any similarities to bourbon.

Just got this. Not planning to drink until the weekend however. Anyone have any insight?

>bought this as my first venture into scotch
>kinda like it but it's far too over powering of an after taste

>>15824144
once you finish it and drink anything else you'll miss it

>>15805814
>IRISH EDITION
AFRICA EDITION

I need to make a decision on what bourbon to buy. It's mostly between the top three, but the bottom two are possible choices.

The only one I've had is the Four Roses, which I like, but I want to try another nice bourbon

>>15824840
Woodford double oaked.

>>15806027
I've got a nice sphere of ice my wife bought me.
Her mistake. It's literally in the glass for so long that I can finish half the bottle.
Found this on sale for 115$

>>15824503
I would unironically drink that whole thing right now

>>15823078
Yes. I imagine if you have a recipe that calls for "liquid smoke" and you run out, you could probably substitute Wee Beastie for it, if you have some.

>>15824840
Fuck all that. Try some of this.

>>15822364
Here's the real redpill that will blow your fucking mind:
If you enjoy yourself it doesn't matter how you drink it.
I like to try it on ice, chilled, and neat. It's almost always more enjoyable with ice for me because I drink it so fast it barely has time to get cool and then I warm it in my mouth for like 10 seconds while breathing in through my nose.
Who cares.

>>15824852
Not the one in the pic? It's expired.

>Best before Dec 2012

>>15824864
I'm never going to buy a bottle of that. I'm never going to ask for a bottle of "chicken cock."

>>15824840
You haven't lived until you tried the BWC.

>>15824892
What? Are you... CHICKEN!!

>>15824897
:|
I'm not drinking chicken cock

>>15824840
Two bottles of Old Grand-Dad 114.

>>15824848
I'm pretty curious about this one. I might be able to get the price haggled down to $50. I've heard that it's noticeably sweet moreso than noticeably oaky

>>15825316
It's on the sweet side, for sure. The four roses single barrel is good, but since you've already tried it I would say trying the double oaked is a no-brainer, it's excellent.

>>15825316
I thought it tasted like milk chocolate and coconut. The finish had more oak. It was very desserty for sure.

>>15825557
>>15825539
My only concern is that it would taste like pancake syrup instead of what I normally like in a bourbon. Four Roses has a nice rye spice and my current bottle, Eagle Rare, has a nice leather and char to it. Does the WR Double Oak have any kind of intensity or roughness to it?

Irishfag here

This is surprisingly nice for the price, it's very drinkable

>>15825661
Yes, on the finish.

However, maybe you should buy something from the Old Forester whiskey row series if you're looking for a more punchy, old man kind of well-crafted bourbon. More baking spice and dry citrus to those. I don't love the regular Old Forester, though.

>>15824129

Drinker yesterday, it's good.

>>Based lidl

>>15824893
>>15825274
You are a meme. You have lost the ability to have individual thoughts.

Anons help I thought Skrewball was just a silly meme drink but I fucking love it

recommend sweet whisky

>>15819959
scotch*

I love me some Irish Whiskey
I feel 12 Yo is perfect for my tastes because I can't tell the difference really in anything over 15yo but the mouth feel of the single pot still is great.
Only thing Irish Whiskey is missing is a single pot still peat whiskey.
>pic related my favourite
>my other go to is Red Breast 12

>>15827637
Any of them but add soda

>>15805868
https://youtu.be/LqrVZA3Ccxk
>>15805914

It's not magical, you'll need to compare notes to have them actually stand out. If you've had cherries before, you aren't guaranteed to taste cherry notes in wine either.
For scotch you can probably get tasters of famous single malt scotches - some normal, some in sherry barrels, some with some other flavorings.
For scotch, there are the Speysides and Highlands which are closer to irish and japanese (imo) then lowlands and islay which are smokey. Even in dirt cheap single malt scotches you can tell the difference between a speyside and a lowland - try it yourself with Sheldaig. They make several varieties.

For bourbon and other whiskey, maybe compare Jim Beam's oaked ($20, found in 750ml) with the normal one or with evan williams or jack daniels. You'll be able to tell the difference oak makes. I think oak also heavily reduces alcohol sharpness/bite that many bourbon drinkers like anyway.

>>15806078
I enjoy cheap scotch but it's so tempting to go up a notch. Bourbon seems to change styles entirely when you do that so people often stick with the tried and true.

I love Basil Hayden and Angel's envy for more expensive stuff, but even those are less expensive. A lot of it is how long scotch is aged.

>>15824840
Woodford is okay but I love the double oaked. I'm biased towards oaky whiskey though

>>15806339
>>15806342
You could do better, but you could also do a lot worse. I prefer Russel's Reserve over the Knob Creek for around the same price point. I like Bulleit's Rye, but their bourbon has that sour "cheap bourbon" smell when I open the bottle I hate.

>>15813210
Buffalo Trace is actually way sweeter and more nuanced than 99% of bourbons I've had. Comparing it to scotches, I would say it's got a very similar flavor profile and overall finish to Glenmorangie 10 year. I even pick up some sherry-like notes from the Trace.

A lot of scotch drinkers generally think scotch=malty and/or smoky, and never sweet. There are smoky scotches that will taste unpeated, but all peated scotches will taste fairly smoky. It all depends on the char, and whether or not peat was used for the char. Naturally, barrels with a deep char will taste smokier. Bourbon-barreled scotch also tends to be fairly smoky without any hint of peat, for example. Hope that answers your question.

>>15814881
Scotch is fine for beginners, but get a "beginner's" scotch.
sweet/light= Macallan 12 or Glenmorangie 10
balanced/malty= Deanston 12, Glenlivet 12
smokey/peated = Laphroaig 10, Ardbeg 10
I would pick one of these. They should all be affordable and at least one will taste reasonably good to you.

>>15816306
I've never had it, but every reputable person I know says Eagle Rare and E.H. Taylor (at least the small batch) are outright misses.

>>15817450
This is what Devil's Cut tastes like to me. That usually means it's a very lightly charred and young oak, I've heard.

>>15821808
Pure, unaged spirits right after distillation will still be referred to as whiskey by everyone in the industry. "White whiskey" usually means aged less than 1 year, and also usually in used barrels.

>>15824840
Fuck 1792. Utter swill garbage. Everything else you posted is acceptable or better.

>>>/wgs/3854842

>>15826564
try it with either grape or grapefruit juice.

>>15824840
ATTN: ATTN: DO NOT BUY WILLET POT STILL! I REPEAT...DON NOT BUY WILLET POT STILL. ALSO BOOKERS IS ASS.

>>15816306
>>15829097
Especially for $30, Eagle Rare is great. 10 year aged single barrel with a nice balance of sweet and leather. The only thing is it's low-rye, so if you don't like that style of bourbon you won't be as satisfied with it

>>15805957
Literally anything else. Anything.

How is Ardbeg Oh An? I wanted to try an Ardbeg and that’s all my liquor store had but I’d only researched Uigeadal and 10.

What's the best whiskey for Whiskey Sours?

>>15830001
I only have the latter 2 u posted at my stores. Ordered a Corvreckyn from scotchwhiskeyauctions to try it.

>>15830029
anything that's 100 proof or more

hello /wg/
what is the best soda to make whiskey & soda?
Im not british or american so alot of your sodas/soft drinks arent easily available here
I dont know what to get
the bottles I got in qustion are the ones in picrelated
they are both classified as Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey
Im done drinking Jack Daniels garbage

I don't drink whiskey but would like to have one or two bottles displayed for guests, if they asked for it as a drink of choice. What's the prettiest, best designed bottle you know about?

>>15805894
Worth the price.

>>15831870
>>15831870
The best american whiskies to mix are usually rye whisky, but out of the two you have you should use Bulleit, with ginger ale/beer

I saw a scotch decision tree chart on this board a long time ago. Does anyone have it to share? It ranked scotches by floralness, peatiness, etc.

>>15833440

>>15805814
For me, its got to be Drydens Fireball

>>15809629
may sample the Ardbeg 1976 tonight. The Red Breast 27 was pretty good. The Springbank 30 was good and the 30yr maturation really shines thru. But this is my first Springbank and I have no inclination of buying any future products.

Is drinking 90 proof whiskey out of la croix cans poisoning me somehow or should I keep doing it
I live with my parents and I don't want them knowing I'm drunk all day

>>15835456
>Ardbeg 1976 Feis Ile
I've only had two other Ardbeg (10y & Uigeadail) but this was caramel smokiness. $8k a bottle according to :

>https://www.whiskybase.com/whiskies/whisky/1307/ardbeg-1976

Divine.

>>15835739
>Divine.

>>15809629
did you buy these or were they gifts?

>>15836025
https://youtu.be/zk4DYStUM2M?t=4210

>>15835632
hell yeah brother

They sold me the last bottle for $32. Did I get scammed?

I'm thinking of getting the Ron Swanson whiskey next (Lagavulin 16)
I liked glenfarclas 12 but it was a little on the sweet side
Laphroaig was nice to but a bit too rich/smokey and for me to have as a daily driver (QC, 10 and Select)
I like Talisker 10 quite a lot, probably the most out of all I've tried so far
Thoughts?

>>15835632
nah bro you are good aluminum is sterile

>>15837324
Where i am you can buy McKenna in premixed cans with coke, and its vile shit. But that looks like a higher aged more premium bottle. You're probably good if you like bourbon. I bet you could make a really good old fashioned or manhattan with it.

>>15837362
My piss is also sterile
Should I be mixing it with my whisk(e)y?

so I have had a few bottles of the non age statement Knob and my liquor store finally got the 9 year age statement new bottles and I'm drinking it right now and I think I liked the other stuff better??

>>15837416
Had the same with glenlivet founders vs 12

>>15837389
no, your whiskey is already sterile

>>15824840
Alright, I think I'm decided on the Jefferson's Reserve now. If it's a better version of their cheaper Small Batch, it'll probably be pretty good.
>>15824848
>>15828698
I'll probably try the Woodford Double Oaked some time afterwards. From what I understand, the two are like opposites. People describe WDO as a dessert bourbon while I know Jefferson is a more dry, tobacco and nuts kind of bourbon.

>>15837354
>I like Talisker 10 quite a lot, probably the most out of all I've tried so far
>Thoughts?
Oh boy, now you've done it.

>>15836360
Lol, nice job Huey

>>15837416
Maybe the bottle could use some air?


Tequila tonight. This stuff is nice enough, but not worth what they're asking. Aside from a bit of citrus there isn't much to remind you you're drinking an agave spirits. It's not being overpowered by oak or anything, the whole thing altogether is too subtle/delicate. A bit disappointing because a lot of reviews and people like liquorhound rated it highly.
Any other whisk(e)y drinkers like tequila? I've been getting more into it lately and at this point I can safely say I enjoy it as much as bourbon or scotch.

>>15837529
the reverse shilling here made me buy it
and i saw it referenced on the tv show The Thick of It
I wonder if Malcom Tucker really was a Single Malt kinda guy

>>15837354
This post cost Diageo 1 cent.

>>15837552
>Maybe the bottle could use some air?
yeah but its been open for a week at least, I actually made old fashioneds with it when I opened it, so maybe its something with me, I will try it again soon with a fresh palate

>>15837572

>>15816306
Eagle Rare is probably the best bourbon in the $30 bourbon bracket. It's like the Blanton's of mid-level bourbon, and that's why it's near impossible to find

>>15805814
water
drink it

>>15837585
>>15837529
i don't know like, you guys really think these "independent" distilleries turning over 10s of millions per year give a flying fuck?
yes we all know there is a faceless corporate that owns johnnie walker and a bunch of other brands
I really don't see why it matters

>>15837687

>>15837768
projection

>>15837669
>Eagle Rare is probably the best bourbon in the $30 bourbon bracket
good thing its 59.99 plus tax in leafland

>>15837998
Damn, you guys are getting fucked. At that point there are better bourbons, but it's still a generally good whiskey

Thoughts on Chivas Regal 12?
Be honest

>>15824934
You don't drink chicken cock.

You "suck" chicken cock.

>>15833440
You mean this one?

>>15838169
im at 6/13

>>15833440
And besides the two previous charts, there is also this one.

>Laphroaig single Islay malt Scotch whisky and the American Film Institute (AFI) presented a very rare 40-Year bottle of the celebrated and world-renown Scotch whisky to Sir Sean Connery, winner of the 2006 AFI Life Achievement Award. The bottle of award-winning single malt Scotch whisky was presented to the famous Scotsman by AFI President Jean Picker Firstenberg as a special and fitting gift marking his achievements.

40 fucking year Laphraoig. Can you even imagine?

>on my third day drinking off this, my first scotch
>first day think it's too overpowering, barely finished a dram
>second day realize i need to take smaller sips and just enjoy it, really start to like it
>third day bottles sitting next to my fucking computer and i've had three glasses, enjoying one of the best feeling buzz i've ever had
Alright, i think i'm hooked on scotch.

>>15837324
no, unless you got a bad bottle because the quality of those is all over the place from what I've read.

>>15838176
I've never seen one of these scotch grids that wasn't shit because they have to have two opposing flavors in each axis, but that's not how whisky flavors work. "Delicate" is not the opposite of smoky. Highland Park is "delicate" and "smoky". Aberlour Abunadh belongs nowhere near fucking delicate and the fact that it is shows how idiotic this grid flavor chart is.

>>15805853
They're both shit, get Laphroaig 10 instead

i want to make old fashioneds and highballs with soda/tonic, should i get scotch or rye? any recommendations that are around 20€?

>>15838176
Redditors can't make charts but you probably only posted this so you can farm (you)'s while vaping your amnesia haze and listening to Chapo

>>15837568
it is insinuated a few times that he is a recovering alcoholic and doesn't drink anymore, so probably not

>>15838807
rye/bourbon for old fashioneds, I dunno get something 100 proof

>>15838864
I've never been to reddit before. I got that pic here, in a previous whisky gen thread.

I just alternate between WT rye, WT bourbon, Knob, and high west. Never really went beyond that

>>15838131
>Thoughts on Chivas Regal 12?
First scotch whisky I ever had. I still like it. I mean it doesn't compare to a lot of single malts, but it's only ~$25 and has a unique profile that I enjoy and haven't found elsewhere.

>>15838496
>Ardbog
Nice, isn't that a limited release from like 2013? Sure beats my first scotch.

>>15840448
https://www.whiskybase.com/whiskies/whisky/42365/ardbeg-ardbog

>>15838632
That's what I was trying to replace. That's $63 + tax here.

>>15837324
Are you stupid? Most places charge $50 minimum for that, I have seen it for $90. What makes you think you got scammed???????

>>15840448
That probably tastes like shit but if she's only charging me for a whisky and soda I'm still onboard.

>>15805814
Pretty good Vancouver island single malt. Bought a bottle when I did a distillery tour little over a year ago

>>15840736
Laphroaig 10 is the cheapest significantly peated whiskey that's actually good. It is what it is.

for my money, this is underrated for a budget bottle
pretty unique and flavorful for $25

>>15840970
except Ardbeg 10 is $10 cheaper than Laphroig 10

>>15841257
and better than Laphroig 10

>>15841257
>>15841484
If only stores around here would stock it. I've been looking for months

>>15841257
why is pricing for this shit so random? where i live laphroaig significantly cheaper than ardbeg

>>15841491
in my area :
>ardbeg 10 $57
>ardbeg 'ugie' $82
>laphroaig 10 $65
>laph quarter cask $88

>>15805814
I was out of blended scotch for cocktails so I grabbed a bottle of this Dewar's mezcal barrel finish stuff and it's great.

>>15838496
I think that's how most people experience Ardbeg. It goes from disgusting to incredible.

>>15841606
>>15838496
My first reaction to Laphraoig 10 was that something went wrong with the bottling and a piece of rubber must've melted in the vat, because it smelled and tasted like the ink from a felt pen.
After about 3 pours, I was fully acclimated to it and now it's one of my favorites.

>>15841654
This. I wasn't sure if Ardbeg 10 was safe to drink the first time I sipped it.

>>15841491
short answer jews

long answer because distribution and is better or worse due population/consumption. and then theres the red dot stores which gouge on most everything

>>15841515
>QC - $88
would almost definitely be cheaper to just order it online

>>15841257
>>15840970 here. I do prefer Ardbeg but it's always been consistently more expensive for me. Looks like pricing is pretty variable between the two.

>>15841606
agreed. first time I tried it (big gulp) I thought I had tasted liquid campfire and ashtray combined. 3 pours later (funny how this is the case for a lot of anons) I morphed into Horst 'mmmhmm the flavors. sip. mmmm peat, sherry, bbq'

I liked Laphroaig and Ardbeg a lot upon first sip. Never had to acclimate to them, and Laphroaig was my first Scotch.

I like Lagavulin but not as much as those two. Hated Talisker on first sip and never acclimated to it.

>>15841784
Lagavulin 16 is supposed to be more about nuance and complexity than smoke/peat like Ardbeg and Laphroaig, right?

>>15806342
bulleit is like $10 overpriced

>>15842119
I agree. It’s mix tier whiskey and there’s better cheaper options for that

>>15811786
Pusser's rum is nice. I find that it has a taste that is still detectable even after mixing it, which is something I haven't seen with other rums.

>>15822730
Smith & Cross is an excellent Jamaican rum but that style of rum has nothing in common with bourbon at all. There's just nothing else that has that funk.

>>15841878
It's extremely peaty, but unlike Laphroaig 10 and Ardbeg 10, some of it is aged in sherry casks, which gives it some richness and complexity, yes.
I just think it tastes like smoked oysters. I like Uigeadail's take on sherry+peat better.

>>15841784
yea I bought a Talisker D.Ed and it was rough trying to go thru that bottle. Was not enjoyable. I've tried the Lagavulin 8yr and it was decent.

>>15826564
>not just buying a sub $35 bourbon and fat washing it with peanut butter.
not. gonna. make. it.

>MFW I live in TN and I got family from FL and other places asking me to help them find rare as fuck bourbons.

It never ends. Had my uncle send me a text a week ago asking if I can help him find a bottle of Blanton's Bourbon.

>>15843022
I wish my family liked whiskey like me

>>15811786
Plantation makes a bunch of great stuff. Pound for pound (price for price) it's the best. Expect some interesting fruity flavors. Bacoo makes some incredible rum too. Specifically the 12 year. Imagine the best vanilla flavor you've ever had, and multiply it by ten.

>>15843022
>Blanton's

I wish this meme would die.

>>15831870
Ale81

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4LrmlgYVpY