/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15582816
If there are more than 1-2 people in your household and you don’t exclusively eat out or frozen meals, this becomes a godsend. I use a very cheap brand one and it never failed me in the 3 years it’s been doing our dishes.

>>15582816
no, they clean them good.

>>15582832
But look at the washing action. Does it seem like it cleans everything?

>>15582816
It's basically boiling water and some mild detergents to release some of the food and stains. It cleans and sanitizes better than hand washing every fucking time. I refuse to eat off of hand washed dishes and 9 times out of 10 put pots, pans, knives etc that aren't dishwasher safe in there because I want them to be sanitized.

>>15582816
You're supposed to pre-rinse before you put stuff in the dishwasher. If you are putting plates covered in sauce and food chunks in, you are already doing it wrong.

>>15582858
If you have to pre-rinse by hand, why get a dishwasher?

>>15582816
I like how that dishwasher has a third rack for silverware to be washed sideways. I've argued with my mom before about whether silverware should go in handle-up or handle-down.

>>15582849
It's hot enough to kill all bacteria and cleans most dishes very well. Would you rather eat off a plate that was soaked in a dirty sink with 10 other peoples mouth juice all over it in luke warm water that has been wiped off with a dirty rag? Wtf. Have some common sense.

>>15582858
>mfw I live with someone who thinks the dishwasher is magic and has tried throwing stuff out when the dishwasher didn't clean it perfectly and only needed to be wiped down

>>15582862
BECAUSE IT SANITIZES YOU FUCKING STUPID APE

>>15582871
You can even see a bit of food stain that did not come off in the video.

>>15582816
Lern how to use it dumpass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04

>>15582882
Most of it comes off because your dishes are literally steaming in boiling hot water for an hour but that's beside the point. If there's anything left I'd still rather eat off of that than a dish someone washed with a dirty rag in a dirty sink that looks sparkling clean.

>>15582858
No reason to baby the dishwasher and the cleaning process if you use it correctly. Pre-rinse is not required.
I repeat, pre-rinse is not required.

>>15582893
>I repeat, pre-rinse is not required.
Put this in the dishwasher.

>>15582816
It's not "splashes water", they're jets of scalding hot water. At least they're supposed to be. The video clearly isn't scalding hot water that steams up the inside near instantly. The whole point is to soften or melt the gunk and then blast them off one way or the other while also spreading the detergent to the whole surface. Household dishwashers might not actually get the job done often if it's crusted up shit that's been allowed to dry/stay caked on because they're not hot enough but that's because you're retarded for not pre-soaking/washing in the first place. Also they won't work if you jam pack that shit in there so much that they are overlapping each other so the water jets don't reach sections of the surfaces. I still don't understand point of the flat plate full of water there that only seems to exist to block the water jets.

>>15582862
The point of the pre-soak is to get all the big chunks out so that (a) the dishwasher only has to do the actual cleaning on the whole plate instead of you awkwardly rubbing shit on and around your plate while fumbling around with your hands with your gross-ass sponge, and (b) because the dishwasher isn't a magical portal of darkness that won't get clogged when you throw in chunks of food and other shit into it.

The dishwasher is going to do a better job of whatever you do by hand anyway.

>>15582882
>For people saying the dishes aren't clean, the dishwasher is on a pre-rinse cycle, which is why it's done in 8 mins. Also if he had used a normal cycle the hot water would immediately steam up the camera and we wouldn't see anything xo
>And no detergent also...

>>15582893
Apparently there exists a pre wash detergent reservoir that you're supposed to use and I never have until recently. After I began using it my filthy unrinsed dishes usually come out spotless.

>>15582898
I usually finish eating stuff before putting it into the washer. If you have tablespoons worth of stuff stuck on your knives when you'd need to throw it into the washer, it's likely you got abducted by the KGB during your sandwitch making.

>>15582816
My dishwasher instructs me to store dried, caked-on food on plates into the dishwasher and I CANNOT allow myself to do it, even knowing my dishwasher pre-steams everything. I start dishwater in my sink and soak and rinse all plates, dishes, silverware, cups and glasses before putting them into the dishwasher, and I wash all pots and pans by hand, I dont trust them in the dishwasher at all.

>>15582862
>rinse dishes for a couple seconds then throw in dishwasher
vs
>soak, scrub, rinse for each dish
Gee, I dunno.

>>15582889
>>15582889
>>15582889
>>15582889
WATCH THE GOD DAMN VIDEO YOU FUCKS
THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT DISWASHERS YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT

>>15582816
when i wash my dishes by hand they just feel less clean compared to when I take them out of the dishwasher.
dishwashers use higher temperatures and more aggressive detergents compared to hand washing

>>15582925
It's not even that for OP's video. It's a 8 minute pre-wash cycle with no detergent with wimpy-ass water jets because it's a pre-wash cycle because the camera wouldn't film anything otherwise. Imagine what it could do on a full cycle with scalding water and detergent. OP's whining is pretty much invalid.

>>15582816
>>15582849
Friendly reminder to:

1. Run your tap until it's hot so that the dishwasher starts with hot water instead of cold
2. Put detergent in the prewash slot so that it does a better job initially getting the grime off, so that you dont spend an hour washing the dishes with gross grimy water

>>15582925
we get it, you touch yourself.

>>15582965
Yes.

>>15582858
My roommate does this. He's a retard. He doesn't scrape off or pre-rinse anything. They're covered in sauces and food and shit. And then when it's time to unload there are bits of food still stuck to things. Guy is a huge fucking slob. Almost as bad as him constantly shitting on the toilet seat and not cleaning it.

>>15583041
>having roommates
Why not just live with your parents?

>>15583041
why does he shit on the toilet seat?

>>15582816
Yes, after pre wash it sanitizes the plates ya doof

>>15582956
Or just not be a slob and rinse off your dishes

>>15583441
>do a part of the work for the machine that will do the work for you
this nigga be simping for a fucking dishwasher

>>15582816
Dishwashers are one of those appliances you should upgrade. I always had standard avg. dishwashers and you basically had to clean the dishes before loading. I upgraded to a Bosch and I can put plates in with dried, caked on food and they come out sparkling. Well worth the extra bucks.

>>15582858
>>15582862
The point is, the dishwasher isnt a trash bin. You rinse the dish for just a second so only sticky gunk is left. You're not a child.

>>15582849
>>15582816
Dishwasher uses really hot water. You're not actually supposed to let food dry on plates before putting them in the dishwasher. Rinse it off then chuck it in.

I spend like an hour a day doing the dishes for me and my mom. Should I buy a dishwasher.

>>15582849
Time + pressure works wonders. Dishwasher detergent also use a stronger base which dissolves fat and grime easier.

>>15582816
You're a dumbass

>>15583816
Plot twist: get a new mom instead.

i wish i had a washing machine

>>15582956
I, too, watch Technology Connections, fellow redditor.

>>15582925
I think it's time for your meds

>>15583990
IT'S ONLY 15:08 I'TS NOT TIME FOR THE MEDICATIONS YET

>>15582889
This video is only applicable in places where you have food disposal through the waste pipes. In the UK the dishwasher has a filter at the bottom of it that you have to clean if you leave food on your plates when they go in the dishwasher. I'd rather do a quick rinse before I put my dishes in than have to clean out a gunked up filter.

Did anyone tell OP that the dishwasher uses the dirty water for the first cycle?

In order to conserve water, it fills the tank up and squirts that shit onto the dishes. All the food particles and gravy then falls into the water colllecting area, where the dishwasher sucks up all that soup and sprays it back all over your dishes.

And yeah, the dishwasher probably does a better job at cleaning your dishes than handwashing, because it sanitizes them.

Also, if you need to pre-rinse/clean your dishes, your machine is shit.

>>15582816
I always seems to have soap scum film over all my dishes, but it's only noticeable on plastic stuff.
I wonder how much detergent I've eaten over the years.

>>15584429
>I always seems to have soap scum film over all my dishes, but it's only noticeable on plastic stuff.
Get a rinse aid.

>>15583786
>Rinse it off then chuck it in.
This!
Rinse your fucking plates

>>15582866
I moved to another house and surprised my dishwasher didn't have a silverware container. It took me a few uses to find the third rack at top

>>15582925
No, I don't think I will.

>>15582956
I am sure mine heats the water, it is steaming hot even if I open it long after the start

>>15582816
Why is the video only 8 minutes? Mine takes 1-2 hours.

>>15582816
You need to use liquid detergent with a dishwasher. The pod things are less effective

>>15584359
Where does the food go when you rinse the plate you dumbass?
Do you rinse it over the rubbish bin?

>>15582816
yeah home dishwashers arent the greatest. commercial ones are fucking awesome though.
end of the day, dishwashers are best used if you live with a large family or have like 5-6 housemates.
if you live by yourself just go the disposable chopsticks, paper plates route and the only thing you'll ever need to clean is the frypan you used to cook with.
give it a wash and rinse and your dishes are done in 30sec.

>>15584467
>>15583786
>>15582858
>>15582862
>>15582893
starting this argument again.
last time we had a thread on "rinse your plates" it went 700 posts in 2 hours with autistic mouth froth from both sides

pre-rinsing plates is a waste of water btw

>>15585360
We scrape leftovers into a food bin that goes to compost, or put leftovers in your own compost heap. You don't rinse scraps down your kitchen sink here.

I definitely rinse all kinds of food and other shit particles down the drain AND the dishwasher

I heard dishwashers used to work better before they got rid of tsp in the soap. what did it do besides make algae blooms?

>>15582816
What's the issue? Dishwashers are great, you put dirty stuff in and everything comes out clean, it's a mix of high temperature and chemicals doing the job. Just don't be a retard and treat it like a trashcan, as others said before me.
>b-but dishes done by hand are coming out as clean
Ok, then please start hand washing your plates with +65°C water for over one hour straight and maybe I'll believe you.

You don't HAVE to scrape the big chunks off the dishes, but if you DO, it's easier to clean the sump screen later.
If your dishwasher is having problems getting things clean, a scrape and a prerinse for any sticky stuff can help.
You should probably run the hot water for a minute anyway; may as well catch it in the sink, a quick dip to loosen off any sticky chunks, and then the dishes can go into the washer for sanitizing and residue removal.

Sticking a whole bowl of stew in the machine without dumping it out is patently dumb, even if "well, technically, it should work".
You know this.
The machine is better at cleaning the dishes when there is less stuff on them.
Scrape always, prerinse... maybe.
Prewash and use it as a fancy sanitizing rinse/dry if nothing else works, but you should probably get your water softener fixed and stop using detergent packs.

>>15582858
You're not. One of the main benefits of a dish washer is the reduced water usage. The dishwasher itself rinses under high pressure before adding heat and detergent.

>>15582906
Apparently this is due to the prevalence of detergent packs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04

>>15582816
Depends on the machine. My friend has a new Samsung or whatever stainless steel digital one and his shit is disgusting. I have a cheap black plastic whirlpool that makes everything totally sterile.

>>15582906
>>15587340
I stopped using pods after seeing that, no prewashing needed.

You guys are talking about sanitization.
What the heck do you mean by that in practice?
doesn't regular dish soap do that too?

>>15586739
I mean, high volume restaurants with instant hot water and industrial strength dish washers that run nonstop for hours also scrap as much shit off plates before loading them into the "cube".

Dish washers don't clean dishes, they sanitize them. I always wash dishes like this:
>put it all in the sink
>get sink water running as hot as it will go
>plug the sink and pour in a little dish soap, fill the sink with hot soapy water
>let that sit until it cools down enough for me to put my hands in
>pick out dishes and start scrubbing at them with a rough sponge
>load them in the dish washer
>run sani-rinse with a little packet of anti-streak chemical if there's glassware
You clean them by hand, then sterilize them in the dish washer.

>>15582956
bruh, the dishwasher is connected to the cold inlet from the wall, it also heats the water itself, the enzymes work better if there is a BIT of dirt on the wares

PSA: clean your filter regularly and the sprayers as well, rice is liable to get into the nozzles

>>15589037
This is the stupidest thing I have read all year.

>>15589257
>the dishwasher is connected to the cold inlet from the wall
This isn’t always the case in the us of a

>>15589406
Im pretty sure most, if not all models have a heater and thermostat, though.

>>15589546
You’re pretty sure. I know for a fact.

>>15589037
stop wasting water you absolute retard