/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15472493
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>>15472493
Eh I'd eat it

>>15472493

Dang boy, that things raw as hell. You might become sick!

>>15472493
The sad thing is someone on this board is actually this mentally ill to like raw beef.

>>15472493
>raw ground beef
Enjoy your parkinson's disease

>>15472513
Eating raw beef that produced with decent quality standards has less risk than that of dying in a car crash. Yet people are a lot more afraid of raw beef than driving a car. Strange.
>>15472524
Yikes.

You're obviously the mentally ill person if you think people who like something you don't like are "mentally ill". Autism probably.
>>15472550
What?

>>15472569
>he doesn't know
ngmi

>>15472569
I got in a car crash then cause I got salmonella or ecoli poisoning from undercooked supermarket ground beef.
If you're going to do your burgers like this you should invest in a meat grinder and make your own fresh ground beef right before cooking.

Why are redditors so obsessed with rare meat

>>15472621
Which of those things gave you Parkinson's

>>15472493
jack? that you?

>>15472651
see >>15472586

>cooking the burger
>grinding it
Pic related is you. Real men with taste and developed palates just go hunting with their teeth and snap whatever they can while it's still alive, bleeding and twitching

>>15472524
tartar is very good.

>>15472493
Made quite a lot of these the past week as we had a lot of minced meat that we had to use before it went bad. Made the patties with a paprika based spice mix I always keep pre-mixed in a jar. Dollop of sriracha mayo (just mayo, sriracha, salt, pepper), home made pickles, onion rings, young Gouda cheese, tomato and lettuce

>>15472707

Looks pretty good anon.

>>15472569
Safe or not I like my food warm.

>>15472493
I'm 100% certain you can't make a more perfect burger than this

>>15472493
Even if food safety were not a concern, I would not eat that shit. The texture of raw hamburger is totally disgusting

>>15472782
That picture is gayer than 2 boys fucking. Hate the sideways burger and that staged liqour

>>15472707
Very nice. I dig the homemade pickles and onion rings

>>15472493
>cold ground beef

nah

>>15472707
I would fuck that burger

>>15472707
Nice burger. What doneness was it cooked to?
>>15472833
It wasn't cold, that wouldn't be good. Blue meat should be at least 37C, which was the case here.

>>15472782
Can't wait for this nigga to die of fatness

>>15472804

Second this.

>>15472493
Soggy bun which means you didn't toast it. ngmi

>>15472893

If you want to avoid a soggy bun, you could spread a thin layer of mayonaise to repel the water.

Or you could do what I do. Let the hamburger patty rest about five minutes before putting it on the bun to let the juices congeal.

>>15472756

>>15472493
I’m from the UK where even quite even restaurants do not serve burgers medium or even rarer.

I was excited to try a medium burger when I visit the US but it was honestly quite gusting. The texture is just too mushy imo. Do love a rare steak though.

>>15472524
I literally don't even cook mine at all
Eat raw hamburger straight from the pack.
Usually drenched in raw egg yolks and I've never gotten sick.

>>15472997
Yeah, ground beef is not supposed to be rare. People like OP are too retarded to understand the difference between steak and ground.

>>15473135
>Yeah, ground beef is not supposed to be rare.
Who are you to decided how ground beef is supposed to be? Do you hold the objective truth that is true to all human beings? What gives you this kind of arrogance?
>People like OP are too retarded to understand the difference between steak and ground.
We perfectly understand the difference, we know that everyone isn't like us and we're fine that other people like our beef made differently than our personal preference. Why can't you too see this?

>Yeah, ground beef is not supposed to be rare.
Who are you to decide how ground beef is supposed to be? Do you hold the objective truth that is true to all human beings? What gives you this kind of arrogance?
>People like OP are too retarded to understand the difference between steak and ground.
We perfectly understand the difference, we know that everyone isn't like us and we're fine that other people like beef made differently than our personal preference. Why can't you too see this?

>>15473225

The issue is that ground beef that is not well done is more likely to be contaminated.

The contamination is at the surface. If cooking a steak, you'll kill whatever bacteria that might have been contaminating the surface. If you grind it up, you mix whatever contamination there may have been thoughout the mean. You need to cook the hamburgers well done to make sure that you kill all the bacteria that were mixed in.

That said, my favorite hamburgers tend to be medium well. I just take my chances.

>>15472493
that's not cooked

>>15473236
Sometimes I see a comment so ass-blastingly retarded that I have to stop scrolling, enter the thread, and point that dumb motherfucker out. Congratulations, that shit-for-brains spastic is your fine self.

>>15473236
Its science you dumb fuck. Heat kills bacteria found in ground beef. If you dont get sick, just keep doing it until you get violently ill.

>>15473254
"Everyone" knows that there are certain risks involved.
>>15473256
So you don't have any arguments other than coming with personal attacks? The truth is your personal attacks apply to yourself that can't even form an argument against something your're against. You argue with feelings, not thought.
>>15473286
>Its science you dumb fuck.
Scientifically speaking it's riskier to drive a car than to eat raw ground beef. So I guess you never drive a car?

>>15472493
Blue rare on a burger seems pretty dumb. I hope you at l least ground your own quality meats and didn't just eat whatever the butcher had already ground to trigger Americans.

My preferred method lately is steamed in broth and onions, not only do you get great flavor for the beef, you get great onions as well

>>15473332
>"Everyone" knows that there are certain risks involved.

I think that few people are aware of the additional risk of eating hamburger meat that isn't well done.

>>15473332
I have personally driven thousands of miles without incident. I have had food poisoning a few times.

>>15473341
It's not worth it.
Once you get severe food poisoning from it and shit every hour for 7 days straight and pray for death.

>>15473332
What are you even doing here if you don't understand basic things about food prep

>>15473347

I have, too.

The worst was on a 2,000 mile road trip. It began about 60 miles from the start of the road trip. If I knew then what I know now, I would have turned around and gone home.

>>15473332
>Scientifically speaking
Statistics aren't science. Lower risk does not imply safety. You are underage and/or very stupid

>>15473341
Might be, but it seems fewer people are aware that it's more dangerous to drive a car than to eat raw ground beef if the ground beef is properly handled.
>>15473347
>anecdotal evidence
Did you get your food poison from raw beef that's been properly handled? In Norway, 3/10 eat store bought raw ground beef and we obviously have no problem with food poisoning from it, or there would be media attention about it.
>>15473353
I obviously understand basic things about food prep when I'm able to make a blue burger when that's what I want.
>>15473371
Science use statistics a lot. If you want it totally precise: Statistically it's far more dangerous to drive than to eat raw ground beef than to drive a car. Since you had to argue semantics instead of the main point, you have no right to call anyone stupid.

>>15473380
*Statistically it's far more dangerous to drive than to eat raw ground beef.
Sorry for bad language, I should have read through my post before hitting "post".

>>15473380
>Science use statistics a lot
No, stupid people look at science and make up statistics to show other stupid people.

>>15473380
That's because you likely won't die from food poisoning dipshit.
But trust me you don't want it.

>>15473391
>No, stupid people look at science and make up statistics to show other stupid people.
Ok. You are so stupid that it's not worth arguing with. Classic example of Dunning-Kruger-effect.
>>15473400
Sure but if ground beef is properly handled the risk of that is minuscule. As I said, 3/10 norwegians eat store bought raw beef and if this was even remotely dangerous we would have found out by now.

>>15473366
Its awful. Protip, avoid Mexico

>>15473414
Lots of Norwegians probably get food poisoning and shit their asses off.
It only becomes "dangerous" when one of them dies.
You can live a full life with aids now with modern medicine, It doesn't mean I want aids.

>>15473473
Believe what you want. Personally i like blue burgers, and we'll see if I ever get ill from it. Eating raw ground beef was something "everyone" did here before scientists discovered e.coli. I'm pretty sure if the risk of food poisoning from it is as bad as people on 4chan claim, us Norwegians would have stopped long ago. But hey, do whatever you want to.

>>15472794
You can grind meat to different coarseness, you don't have to buy meat paste from a supermarket.

>>15473504
I like them too, but after I got violently ill this summer and spent time in the hospital I'm more cautious.

>>15472493
You're trolling

>>15473332
No arguments, retard, just facts.

>>15473837
>No arguments, retard, just facts.
Personal attacks aren't considered facts in a debate, retard. Show me one thing here that is a fact and not a personal attack:

>Sometimes I see a comment so ass-blastingly retarded that I have to stop scrolling, enter the thread, and point that dumb motherfucker out. Congratulations, that shit-for-brains spastic is your fine self.

>>15472782
nice plate you got that on

>>15473421
>Its awful. Protip, avoid Mexico

I was starting to feel better by the time I got to El Paso. Instead of continuing on to Mexico, though, I turned east and went to San Antonio that night and into Houston the next day for lunch.

>>15473933
There is no debate, retard. You deny facts and rightfully get called out for being a retard. Simple as.

>>15473968
The fact is that 3/10 norwegians eat raw ground beef, and we never have problems with food poisoning from it.

We sometimes have problems with e.coli food poisoning from imported snap peas from kenya or berries imported from eastern europe.

We never have problems with food poisoning from ground beef even though 3/10 norwegians eat it raw.

These are facts. Try argue against these facts. But I bet you can't, you will just come with another personal attack.

>>15474039
>3/10 norwegians are retarded
hilarious if true

>>15474042
Then why are there no cases of food poisonings being reported from it, while there are reports of food poisoning from other things? It's true btw.

>>15474087
I'm beginning to think more than 30% of Norwegians are retarded.

>>15474121
Again, no facts, no arguments, nothing, just personal attacks. You should stop posting on 4chan forever, you are cancer on humanity.

>>15472782
Based abbyposter

>>15474152
see >>15473837

>>15474161
I've given arguments lots of places here. You don't get away with showing me one post where I point out that you don't give out anything but personal attacks. Try arguing against the facts I provided here: >>15474039

This is the last post where I will respond to you because you are not worth my time.

>>15474161
No place have you given these supposedly "facts" you have. Only personal attacks and claims that there are facts against me. Try to prove me wrong with the facts I've provided, like here: >>15474039

Or shut up. I won't respond more to you unless you actually come up with facts, because you are not worth using my time on. Bye.

>>15474121

I've heard Norwegians called the "Irish of Scandinavia".

>>15474039
Grinding raw meat introduces bacteria into the meat that would otherwise not be there. This is unavoidable. What you’re doing when you eat raw ground beef is playing a game of Russian roulette. Even if your made up statism is anywhere close to true in regard to 30% of Norwegians eating raw ground beef, that doesn’t mean they can’t get sick, nor does it mean they don’t regularly get sick from it. You’re making an assumption that every person who gets food poisoning (1) knows it and (2) goes to a hospital or medical facility where they’ll be haphazardly lumped into some misleading statistic for faggots like you to spaz out about on le reddit. You’re also not taking into account the fact that, again if your statism is true, that you Norwegian fags haven’t just built up an unnatural immunity to some of the common bacteria’s that would be introduced into your ground meats, which sounds like a good thing only if you’re a complete fucking imbecile.

>>15474191
>>15474223
Making shit up isn't a fact, sorry, chump.

>>15474235
Makes a lot of sense lmao

>>15474274
>Bacteria bad
We couldn't live as humans without bacteria, including e.coli.
>What you’re doing when you eat raw ground beef is playing a game of Russian roulette.
30% of norwegians eat raw ground beef and there's no reports of anyone dying of it. That's not Russian roulette.
>You’re making an assumption that every person who gets food poisoning (1) knows it and
What's the problem if you don't know you got food poisoned? That doesn't sound like food poisoning at all.
>You’re also not taking into account the fact that, again if your statism is true, that you Norwegian fags haven’t just built up an unnatural immunity to some of the common bacteria’s that would be introduced into your ground meats, which sounds like a good thing only if you’re a complete fucking imbecile.
That's would be a good thing because it's delicious and raw meat is easier to digest than cooked meat.

Truth is meat and milk is foods that northern european people tolerate most well. Maybe for example americans have lost this, idk but if that's the case, too bad for you. In Germany they eat raw ground pork, called "mett".

In any case, it doesn't make it universally bad to eat raw ground meat, only relative to some people, while others tolerate it. People that tolerate it aren't "retared" for eating it.

>>15474280
>Making shit up isn't a fact, sorry, chump.
I'm not making this up. Us google translate: https://forskning.no/mat-nofima-partner/3-av-10-spiser-ra-kjottdeig/897763

>>15472493
Too thick, too rare, too many pickles. 1/10, probably better than a mcdonalds burger but only technically.

>>15472569
>with decent quality standards
yeah we don't have those in the USA

>>15474325
No. You’re definitely a retarded statist who doesn’t understand context, or microbial life. I didn’t say you can’t eat raw meat. I said you’re taking a chance every time you eat raw ground meat, because you are. Not all Ecoli are the same dipshit. The stuff in your gut is not the same as the stuff that makes you sick. There are 6 identified pathotypes of pathogenic Ecoli, the stuff that makes you sick. You can get these from contaminated food or water. As well as Salmonella, Campylobacter jejuni, Listeria monocytogenes, Staphylococcus aureus, etc.. It doesn’t “digest easier,” that’s gobbledygook. If you’re going to be a gross fuck eating raw meat all the time, at least don’t grind it, eating it like a steak would immediately eliminate most if not all the risk. Retard.

>>15472493
Idk why people like big fat burger patties. They almost always just season the outside of the patty so its bland. The ideal burger for me is thin, well done, well seasoned amd stacked with cheese. Steak and shake has nailed what a burger should be in my eyes. Steaks are good rare, burgers ehh not so much

>>15475129
>I said you’re taking a chance every time you eat raw ground meat, because you are.
There's a risk in everything we do and driving a car is the most dangerous thing most people do.

You are arguing with feelings, you are not being rational. You can repeat arguments about bacteria again and again, but in the end, the risk is very small. It's more dangerous than eating raw ground meat if you're healthy and it's produced under good hygiene standards.

In the end, everyone has to decide what risks they take.

> It doesn’t “digest easier,” that’s gobbledygook.
It's not. Raw meat contains enzymes that aid digestion. These are destroyed when cooked.

>Retard.
I wouldn't call you a retard for being governed by feelings in this matter, because most people are governed by feelings. It's just pathetic to see you rave about bacteria and risk, without putting it in a proper context.

It would be like someone on /out/ posting about their swim in the sea, and someone calling him a retard because there are bacteria in the sea that can make him sick, that he can be eaten by a shark and he could drown etc.

>>15475139
>Idk why people like big fat burger patties. They almost always just season the outside of the patty so its bland.
Some people enjoy pure meat taste with only salt on the outside. Believe it or not.

>>15475139
>Idk why people like big fat burger patties. They almost always just season the outside of the patty so its bland.
Many people enjoy pure meat taste with only salt on the outside. Believe it or not.

>>15472957
Burgers aren't.

>>15476734
You are arguing with feelings, you are not being rational.

>In the end, everyone has to decide what risks they take.
And low reward, high risk actions will always be attributed to retards and apparently Norwegians.

>>15477459
>You are arguing with feelings, you are not being rational.
Nice parroting of what I said to you, in lack of actual real arguments.

>And low reward, high risk actions will always be attributed to retards and apparently Norwegians.
If you drive in a car, you take higher risk than I do eating raw ground meat.

So according to your logic, you are a retard if you take the "high risk" of driving a car.

That's fine, some people have irrational phobias, and we have to accept that. But you should seek help. You're probably already diagnosed autism so probably nothing we can do though.

>>15472493
Cheap unoriginal b8 but damn is still disgusting

>>15477587
>Nice parroting of what I said to you, in lack of actual real arguments.
It's great because it reveals your projection and hypocrisy.

>So according to your logic, you are a retard if you take the "high risk" of driving a car.
Nah. Most people need vehicles to be productive and in some cases, even live in society. The usefulness is hundredfold compared to eating raw ground beef, which has only downsides, aside perhaps from saving time cooking.

By your retarded logic, you're better off staying in your mother's basement eating nothing but raw ground beef because the risks in your deluded mind are far greater than becoming ill from eating contaminated animal product.

Norway is doomed if its citizens are as "intelligent" as you LMAO

>It's great because it reveals your projection and hypocrisy.
Where is the hypocrisy?

>Nah. Most people need vehicles to be productive and in some cases, even live in society. The usefulness is hundredfold compared to eating raw ground beef, which has only downsides, aside perhaps from saving time cooking.
Pleasure and enjoying life is also a big upside.

>By your retarded logic, you're better off staying in your mother's basement eating nothing but raw ground beef because the risks in your deluded mind are far greater than becoming ill from eating contaminated animal product.
No, I never argued against taking calculated risks. I support extreme sports too. Never participated in any, but I want to. For the pleasure of it, not the productivity. I just argue if you're worried about getting sick from raw ground beef, you should be a lot more worried about dying in a car accident.

>Norway is doomed if its citizens are as "intelligent" as you LMAO
Empiric evidence show I'm not a retard for eating raw beef, or we'd all be fucked up long ago.

Why are you so against eating raw ground beef for healthy people that are aware of the risk? It's a life choice.

>>15477908
I mean, I wouldn't eat raw ground beef anyway because it's disgusting, but it's retarded to think it's safe, let alone healthy. I weep for citizens of Norway and their shitty education system.

>>15477978
It's safer than driving a car. Your feeling of raw ground beef being "disgusting" overrides your rational thinking.

>>15478387
It's similar to eating maggot-infested, rotten meat- it's disgusting and unhealthy.

You sure are obsessed with driving a motor vehicle, are you unable to secure a driver's license or something? Is that what this is about?

>>15473134
that sounds gross