/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15203198
It's not offensive but I don't understand the purpose, for spreading on bread and making baked goods I prefer butter and for other cooking I prefer oil

>>15203198
Crystal is absolutely based. Non-hydrogenated AND the container is designed to be repurposed as a plastic storage container. This little nigga is cheaper than Becal to boot!

>>15203198
its ok, agree to disagree

Better than MSG

>>15203198
If margarine is based, why does it try so desperately to be butter?

>>15203278
Margarine always had a social stigma attached to it, independently of the real qualities of the product.
New comers and veterans in the margarine markets are trying different approaches to get away from this loaded past, some going as far as presenting margarine as a 'liquid butter that doesn't burn'.

Well I guess if you like to slowly poison yourself, it's ok.

>>15203198
>based
no. it's synthetic butter and if you like it, you are a baby boy who drinks powdered milk

>>15203955
>powdered milk
Also based.

Margarine, why do you exist? You seem like a solution in search of a problem.

>>15203198
I love Parkay. Pic is an example from tonight. A baked potato I made that is at least half Parkay and sour cream. I also eat it straight from the tub

>>15203198
It unironically turned out it is very unhealthy, but the brainwashing takes long to undo so most people still think it is more healthy than butter

If you like it because it is spreadable, then butter is even more spreadable if you leave it at room temperature. It'll keep fine for two weeks outside the fridge. It is also much tastier than margarine in my opinion

>>15203984
ok but have you tried butter?

>>15203995
It’s in inferior in taste and spreadability

>>15203993
>butter is even more spreadable if you leave it at room temperature
40ºC has been my room temperature right now.

>>15203198
Anne Frank was caught due to her extremely pungent vaginal odour.

>>15203198
Only oils acceptable are coconut oil and olive oil. Otherwise you should use either butter or lard.

Margarine and all seed oils are unmake trash, you might as well just cook with birth control or get pills at that point.

>>15204117
*numale

>>15204008
I'm not going to argue with your flavor preferences, but I double dog dare you to spread anything on a baked potato. The potato is more spreadable than its toppings.

>>15204104
>40ºC has been my room temperature right now.
Then you have no choice, but to eat toxic margarine. I'm really sorry, fren :-(

>>15204104
I know they formulate food differently in hot climates, but even the most robust margarine has got to be liquid at that temp.

>>15204008
Use a butter dish and keep your stick of butter covered on the counter.

>>15203198
I grew up with margarine and I'm still mad about it

>>15203198
>Flies won't eat it
>Ants won't eat it
>Is one step away from plastic on a molecular level

No thanks

>>15203970
it all started when petroleum started replacing vegetable oils as the main ingredient in paint. With nowhere else to sell their product, agriculture companies started a massive campaign to get cottonseed oil and corn oil into the kitchen by marketing them as a replacement for everyday fats. People liked that they could keep on the shelf indefinitely and were cheaper than the animal products they were replacing. It started with Crisco, sold as a lard substitute, moved onto margerine, the butter substitute, until the market was comfortable enough with vegetable fat that they would just fry directly in vegetable oil (though this came decades later).

Your great grand parents would've scoffed at the idea at using a liquid-at-room-temperature oil to fry their foods. In fact, they'd most likely never even seen one before vegetable oils pushed into the market.

Everyone has a different opinion on vegetable oil, but the fact is that no culture anywhere on earth has ever eaten this quantity of unstable and often rancid polyunsaturated fat. Vegetable oil currently makes up around 40% of the American diet. We have no idea what the long term consequences of this are, but I personally extrapolate from its increasing prevalence in our diet since the 70s that it plays a causal role in the metabolic and endocrine degradation of the American population.

What's more, because it's so cheap, it's nearly impossible to avoid unless you cook all of your own foods by hand. Eating at a restaurant is basically out of the question; anything fried, grilled, or served with a sauce is going to be a pretty heavy source of polyunsaturated fat from vegetable oils.

But even at home, most processed and pre-made foods are full of polyunsaturated fat.

Frozen chicken tenders? Set in vegetable oil. Pop tarts? Vegetable oil. Your breakfast cereal? vegetable oil. Two slices of fucking white bread have 3-5 grams of vegetable oil.

>>15205639
But it goes even deeper. Once fed on grass and robust grains like barley and wheat germ, most of American livestock today is fed a diet of corn mixed with, you guessed it, FUCKING VEGETABLE OIL. This has a particularly strong effect on the lipid profile of pigs and chickens. Chicken fat is around 20% polyunsaturated fat, and pigs are around 11% polyunsaturated fat. Cows metabolize fats differently, so they remain mostly monounsaturated and saturated fat.

This wasn't supposed to be this long but fuck I hate vegetable oil. I wish they weren't the standard food ingredient in so much fucking food.

My pipe dream is to start a restaurant chain that fries all of its food in tallow and palm oil so that folks who give a shit about it have a place to go where they can eat fried foods without eating 50 grams of PUFAs.

>>15203198
The war is over,w hy u still eat this shit.

>>15205642
>fries all of its food in tallow
That's my dream too anon. Not to start the restaurant myself, but to go there and by real food

>>15205642
Palm oil? Thats the same bullshit you hate. Its even cheaper so every industry is already resetteling for it.

>>15204008
Maybe dont freeze your butter before use it you sub room temperature iq chimp man.

>>15205642
>palm oil
Thanks for ruining the rainforest and killing orangutans

>>15203198
Yet another boomershit meme.

>>15205876
those little niggas should have learned how to use tools then LOL

>>15203198
Its garbage

>>15205639
>>15205642
Very interesting. Thank you.

>>15203198
Yeah I'm not gonna eat something even INSECTS won't eat.

>>15203198
I've only every used it for masturbation lube, I've never bothered to cook with it.

>>15206704
Insects won't eat olive oil either.

>>15205876
If they weren't growing palm oil they'd be growing something else.

They have extremely fertile land and climate and will use it to make money as long as it's the best way for them to make money.

>>15206843
Pretty sure I've seen ants group around spilled olive oil on my kitchen bench before

>>15203198
I think it's fine but I will keep eating butter and shit on people who eat margarine until the day I die and you can't stop me. I have already won.

>>15205639
Hmm, but then why do cookbooks from the early 20th century still mostly use vegetable oils for frying? (in my country we mostly use sunflower and olives though)

>>15203198
It was made as a substitute for butter in the French rations back in the days

>>15207094
>Doubt.jpeg

>>15207201
They don't. Onl once the war hit did margarine become mass produced. Till the 40 it was all about animal fats.

>>15203198
How fat are you?

>>15204117
Based

>>15205642
>>15205639
Fucking based a fuck anon well said and written

>>15204117
Cringe. Don't pretend that you will ever breed some day.

>>15207812
176 cm / 81 kgs

>>15205642
Replace palm oil with duck fat and I will go to your restaurant (I havent eaten a strangers cooking in well over a year).

>>15203198
care enough to post it, though

>>15205639
This
I have been able to maintain a healthy weight much trouble since I started cooking my own foods from scratch and avoiding processed food as much as possible. Even going so far as to make and cook with homemade broths made from carcasses, soup bones, ham hocks, and washed vegetable scraps, and growing as much of my own produce as possible.

>>15203463
the social stigma was from the fact that they were pretending it was indistinguishable from butter, when it was in fact not. what you are describing is corporate shills trying desperately to make it seem like it isn't literally a byproduct that they are selling for a premium (now that the lie about it being healthier than butter has been dispelled)

>>15204117
cringe as fuck

yeah I should just give more money to streetshitters and joggers for the COCONUT OIL meme, hahahaha

I use pure canola oil grown and harvested in the USA. fuck off.

polyunsaturated fats are literally adapted to cold climates. That's why saturated plant fats only grow in tropical climates, they literally freeze and kill the plant in the harsh frost temperatures. Seed oils are only unhealthy for tropical people.

>>15207201
because he's absolutely full of shit.
if everyone buys coconut oil, then White agriculture collapses and all the money goes to streetshitters and nogs and mexicans.
if everyone buys canola oil, Whites get richer. Canola is a temperate climate plant. The US and especially Europe cannot grow coconuts. People from cold temperate climates are highly adapted to seed oils like canola, walnuts, etc. Arguing otherwise is to say that Whites are negroid.

>>15205348
>>15206704
?

>>15210203
I've no idea which is the butter and which is the margarine. Why didn't he put any label on them.

>>15203198
>cancerous chemically extracted vegetable oils

naw, im good

>>15203198
Its cheap oil.
They use hydrogen gas to solidify that oil.
Then they add a flavoring butter, but any flavor would work.

Its just oil so use that.

>>15203198
>Margarine
You will never be butter.

>>15212362
Rude!

>>15212401
hydrogenate, transfat

>>15203198
Ok.

>>15203278
it's based on butter, anon

(((Margarine)))
It's the "Fellow Butter" of the cooking world

Magarine is quite literally a non food product, theres little difference to it than spreading soy oil and Salt in whatever you wanna use It.

>>15203198
Cheaper
Good quality

>>15203463
Seems like car oil

>>15205642
Polyu saturated its not bad

>>15210422
Margarine in the right

>>15213185
In processed food, it literally is because it oxidizes super quick, then it enters cell membranes and lingers there, increasing oxidative damage esp. to mitochondria.

When you eat fresh meat and seeds the fats are almost untouched, but press the oil out, heat it, treat with chemicals etc. and you get concentrated slow acting poison - fertilizer for diabetes and cancer.

I have only one thing to say...


DUCK FAT

>>15213236
Our membranes have polyinsaturated fats.

>>15203198

Margarine feels like it's half free radicals that will do weird shit to my cells.

>>15203198
Yeah, based on the idea that people eat with their eyes. If it were actually good they wouldn't need to dye it the color of butter.

>>15213246
I never wanted to see this frog's dick.

You have eye raped me!!!!

>>15203198
They have spreadable butter. The fuck do I need margarine for? It doesn't really bother me, that said, but it sure does confuse the shit out of me how it survived all the way back from Napoleonic times when it wasn't even a health thing and the industry fought them back for even trying to succeed as a product.

>>15203198
If you like yellow soy oil, do whatever the fuck you want.

As long as you're not using it to cook meals for other people, knock yourself out.