/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14969057
sweet potatoes are GOAT, enjoy riding the braaaap train brother.

>>14969057
Japanese sweet potatoes are usually golden or purple not like a garnet yam or jewel yam like your pic.

>>14969057
Correlation ain't causation, negro.
Their prolonged lifespan comes from caloric restriction which has been shown to lengthen life. A candle which shines half as bright, burnd double as long. You're not winning anything.

>>14969077
That may be true. But I'm sure that eating sweet potatoes is still healthier long-term than red meat or twinkies

>>14969085
>he thinks red meat is unhealthy
Your brain on talmud vision. At least you skip the sugar jew.

>>14969057
Japanese sweet potatoes are really good, they are very different from the orange ones. They are my favorite potato. I like to bake them or skin and boil, then mash them. They don't need anything else, maybe salt. They already taste buttery.

yeah, high food intake will make you live longer

>>14969076
Those purple sweet potatoes are so much better than the orange ones

>>14969354
Both are good and need to be handled differently. Purples are better just baked but garnet yams are better mashed. Golden japanese sweet potatoes are amazing for anything but hard to find as they are moldy half the time at the asian super market. Also purples are just drier so you have to bake them longer than garnet yams or goldens. Purples do fry crispier if you make hash browns but they also lose more volume. The perfect mashed potatoes for me are garnet yams mixed with red potatoes for that radishy flavored crunch.

>>14969382
mans on that yam jam

>>14969057
Bake them at 400F for like an hour until they're nice and soft, and then mash them up with cinnamon and a bit of coconut oil. Fucking delicious. I keep the skins on in the mash, I do a big batch all at once and freeze half of it for later

>>14969105
Not a single argument was made this day. And baseless antisemitism to boot. Ignore this low iq poster.

>>14969076

>>14969392
In tinfoil? Covered or just in a pan? Sounds good.

>>14969392
I'll try that out, I actually happen to have some coconut oil. Thanks bro.

>>14969402
are the purple sweet potatoes in that pic also called "ube"? or are ube different?

>>14969105
Based
>>14969400
Cringe

>>14969115
Based Jackson Crawford reader. Wishing you...all the best.

>>14969418
>called "ube"?
The Filipino variety?
We can't keep track of everything in Japan because they keep creating new varieties.

>>14969382
damn, you know your yams

>>14969400
Those red meat studies, consider hamburgers and other procesed "red meats" to be all equal. Basically taking some fat mutts asking them if they eat beef regularly (includes McDonalds and tehre like) and comparing them to people nearly pathologically fixated on halth foods.
Oh nose, red meat correlates with bad health!

Next time read a couple actual studies or at least the abstract of their metholody before claiming something is bad for you.
Meat is essential and red meat, like beef, is the best you can get. Chicken is second place and pork last, due to high inflammatory factors. Ideally tho, you want to eat 50% fatty fish, ideally those short lived (Hering, Sardine, salmon, ...) especially for those Omega 3 components which you can't synthetsise. This would benefit your health much more than eating fucking starchy root vegetables from a different continent to whcih your people obviously never relied upton to stay healhy.

And if you dare to meme the "they only live till 30" bullshit, I'll personelly will come around and put your faggot ass into a composter.

>>14969115
Do you know how these compare to boniato, a white flesh sweet potato?

>>14969057
Any potatoes recipe can be used for sweet potatoes

As for why they live so much. No PUFAs, so no seed oils, and also no sugar. They eat a fuckton of pork, sweet potatoes, vegetables, healthy fatty acids and fermented foods.

That's a pretty old study, Okinawans are living shorter lives these days because of the introduction and availability of foods you'd more closely associate with a western diet.

>>14969077
It can be a combination of factors. Learn a little logic before you open your retarded mouth.

>>14969057
Okinawa is a prefecture, baka

>>14969545
>iT cAn Be A cOmBiNaTiOn
Anon, you need to shut your uneducated mouth when faced to intelectual superiours, especially when you clearly have no idea at all, what you are talking about. You're the equivnelat of fat choclate wine aunts right now.

>>14969533
>from a different continent to whcih your people obviously never relied upton to stay healhy.
Yeah but if I try to maximize my health, I should look for food options from all over the planet.
Imagine if some village in Mongolia figured out the secret to eternal life, but you will say "well my European ancestors never relied on that!". Idiotic.

>>14969533
>from a different continent to whcih your people obviously never relied upton to stay healhy.
Yeah but if I try to maximize my health, I should look for food options from all over the planet.
Imagine if some village in Mongolia figured out the secret to eternal life, but you will say "well my European ancestors never relied on that!". Idiotic.

>>14969612
>>14969607
????

>>14969607
>maximize my health
Maximal health is to where your body evolved to exist. You don't even know what your, for lack of a better term, native diet is, yet go around reducing red meat and eating chink roots. That's not doing you any favour, because while it might benefit a certain population (due to adaptation) it won't necessarily benefit you. You can already see that with rice in non-asians or dairy in (mainly) non-europeans. Each respectivly massively benefits from "their" food but thoe benefits can't be adapted by just consuming those foods as a different population.

Dairy in europeans, especially the fermented variety (kefir and there like) can strongly reduce somach cancer due to regulation of helibacter pyori (main offender). Now a chink could try to reduce his risks by consuming them as well, ut all he will get is the shits of his life, as genetics are lacking the necessary adaptation to properly break it down. He will do more harm than good.

You can't go around shopping for eternal life, you are best served in looking to learn what your ancestors ate and how to adapt such a diet in modernity. I made a list of couple relevant studies on this subject, feel free to dwell into it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EPyssWASiOuNurbc2FyibL-5ZK1wwPEPMuTbjzD-auw/edit?usp=sharing

>>14969652
You bring up good arguments. I will have to think about this for a while.

>>14969682
That's a rare and honorably honest reply. Good luck on your journey.

>>14969652
>MUH ANCESTORZZZ
>MUH HUNTER GATHER BIG BRAIN

Fucking retard. Should Italians stop eating tomatoes since they've only recently been eating a new world crop? You know they make lactose free milk?

Soon enough, we'll have the technology to know exactly what the most optimal diet is for your individual genes not what your "ancestors" ate. Until then, it's best to eat a variety of food with plenty of good protein sources like natural salmon, red meat, mixed with nutritious veggies from carrots, greens, sweet potatoes, etc.

>>14969753
>Should Italians stop eating tomatoes since they've only recently been eating a new world crop?
Solanums are notorious for advers health effects, yet it's nothing as obvious as in lactase examples. Still, if you have any form of gastroenterological problem the go to solution is abstinence of such factors and if at all later introduction trying to determin which you can actually tolerate. Further, tomatoes, just like totatoes have been very harshly breed in europe, making them more palatable. Potatoes for example were deadly to children for most of their european history due to the hight Solanin concentration. It tock centuries to make it less toxic to where today you can even eat the skin without having pains shorty after. Call it co-evolution. It's basically lactose-tolerance in baby shoes (which is still spreading). If anything, your tomato example is another argument in favour of my points.

>You know they make lactose free milk?
Ah yes, those naturally occuring lactose free dairy cows. How could I forgett. Surely synthetic stuff will be so much healthier, despite us humans not even understanding how our fucking gut works. And btw, mong, you can't make kefir fermentation out of dairy which has no lactose sugars. So in your proposal that chink will drink a synthetic invention, without benefits but with further negativ sites, like the higer estrogenic expression in asians. Big brain.

>we'll have the technology
You wannabee transhumanist/ futurists always make me laught. The future is soylent and bugs because due to big brain modernTM betterTM technological agriculture having fuked up all biodiversity and soil health. Pic related. Get a grip on your delusions.

Love a baked sweepo

I made a mix of mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes once. It came out decent.
>>14969652
>chink roots
They're originally from Perú

>>14969802
>totatoes
>If anything, your tomato example is another argument in favour of my points.

Then where's the lower life-expectancy and lower quality of health data on Italians who consume above-average amounts of tomatoes? There isn't because you're a clown who knows the right combination of words and meme research to bullshit teenager normies.

Animals have also been bred to suit our needs, there isn't a single farmed animal today which could survive in the wild. That's the whole point of civilization building people, we make things better and easier for us. Nobody wants to be a huntergather-nigger. It's not co-evolution, the moment we took these plants&animals out of the wild, they stopped evolving due to natural selection and evolved because of what our cultural needs dictated.

>And btw, mong, you can't make kefir fermentation out of dairy which has no lactose sugars.

You dumb faggot, kefir/yogurt already has very low levels of lactose. If any non-european wanted to drink it, they could easily. Yogurt is a main component of Turkish and Lebanese cuisine and over 70% of them have lactose intolerance.

>laught
>Pic related. Get a grip on your delusions.

Sigh. You truly are a low-iq incel. Wow you totally defeated me with your info-graphic which absolutely proves nothing. You sit on your cum stained computer chair and type on your greasy slick keyboard and try to redpill people on eco-nazism. You truly are the future of biodiversity.

>>14969900
You type like a faggot redditor so I believe the other guy

>>14969802
>air travel hasn't gotten better
>not knowing before it was a common way to travel only rich people flew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCI6Z-8wUY0

How do you roast a sweet potato over a fire like they do in anime? I’ve only cooked them in the oven or on a stove for mashed potatoes

>>14969900
>why isn't there a publicly funded study on my specific field of interest within a topic which is still very much new
That doesn't get studied because you can only make self-report studies, which are useless. Further everything has to be considered within the greater lifestyle of a population. So even if you consider the med diet to be the most healthy, it will more likely than not be useless, because it will be just as much about social gathering and time being spend on quality food by mama as by the food itself. Their lifestyle might even be so healthy that it's better despite a partially shitty diet.
Your meme insults and inability to think before writing down a retared reply don't make me eager to condinue this conversation. But as always, there are enough studies made on the specific ingredients of tomatoes or potatoes, if you want to know which will harm your gut. Which is the best we can have in terms of nutritional studies atm.

>Animals have also been bred to suit our needs
And your point is? That's why I said in the beginning that one can always only try to adapt such a native diet as far as possible.

>That's the whole point of civilization building people, we make things better and easier for us.
Better and easier is disgenic in the long term.

>the moment we took these plants&animals out of the wild, they stopped evolving due to natural selection
You mean artifical selection. If you consider humans part of nature, than it's natural selection by envoiremental pressures (humans). It's just as much co-evolution as dogs and modern horses are. _We_ also changed due to it (again lactose tolerance).

>kefir/yogurt already has very low levels of lactose
And still there is enought lactoe to make it uncomfortable and enought estrogen expression to be detrimental to their health.

>Yogurt is a main component of Turkish and Lebanese cuisine
Turks and the Lebanese are both indo-european people, jesus fucking christ, anon. Stop posting already.

>>14969923
>when we have the technology, the 0,001% will live like Gods eating and behaving to live to 200 years of age in perfect health and youth while the plebs will fight for green slush made of uneconomic geriatrics
The future is truly bright.

>>14969057
I like to cut a few medallions from a sweet potato or yam and just fry it in a pan with the rest of my breakfast. Pretty good cooked in a little butter.

>>14969920
Based and redpilled.

>>14969920
The collective verdict has been passed.

>>14969959
>That doesn't get studied because you can only make self-report studies, which are useless.

You should be insulted. I know you think you're part of the counter-culture, some kind of radical heretic who will eventually be proven right. The truth is you're just dumb and cobbling together all this pseudo bullshit isn't going to fool anyone who can take 1-2 minutes to google for themselves.

If tomatoes were such a huge issue like you claim, then it would be clearly shown in Italy's health data. Just compare Italy to Argentina, and see which group lives longer. You've proven my point, the culture of the people took a vegetable from south america and made it help them not hurt them.

>And your point is?
Read more. How native is their diet, if one of the main ingredients comes from south america? Obviously, they made it their own just like every other high-functioning civilization.

>Better and easier is disgenic in the long term.
>disgenic
Then why are you here instead of living in the woods and becoming nazi tarzan? The past isn't the cure, anybody who peddles that type of nonsense is worse than a vegan.

>And still there is enought lactoe to make it uncomfortable and enought estrogen expression to be detrimental to their health.

There's a reason why they call it an intolerance not a death sentence. The lower the lactose, the easier it will be for them to digest and process. Yogurt usually has 3-4 times less lactose than pure milk. That's probably why they started making yogurt in the first place.

>Turks and the Lebanese are both indo-european people, jesus fucking christ, anon. Stop posting already.

Thank you for outing yourself. Now look at my infographic. Can you tell the difference between the indo-europeans and the non-indoeuropeans? You truly are a fucking retard.

How can I get free sweet potatoes?

>>14969976
>dude the future will literally be like that korean movie snowpiercer
>i didn't watch it though because my native eye genetics only let me watch lactose tolerant films
>tips wallmart halloween section viking hat

>>14970059
>you think you're part of the counter-culture, some kind of radical heretic
>you're just dumb and cobbling together all this pseudo bullshit
Imagine deducting such ridiculous assumptions because an anon advocates for regional and seasonal diets instead of meme fads and wishfull-thinking futurism. You sure you don't have some underlying issue to sold before bumping into a civilised conversation?

>If tomatoes were such a huge issue like you claim
Did I speak underwater taiwanese or how come you don't understand that not every bad habit or less than ideal food means certain death? Italians also have much more free time, higher pensions and earlier pension ages, as well as more multigenerational families - all factors are known to increase life and lifes quality. Going by pure life expectancy is babies first statistical mistake.

>How native is their diet, if one of the main ingredients comes from south america?
When we speak about native diets, we speak in millenia not decades or centuries. Tomatoes are modern aditives. "Traditional diets" rarely are actualy native diets as stuff like recipes and cultural norms change much quicker than our bodies. Maybe just start to read up on that topic before wasting someones time? "Nutrition and bodily generation" is a good start, when we're on the topic of reading, fren.

>Then why are you here instead of living in the woods and becoming nazi tarzan?
What does a better diet have to do with a lifestyle which is unarchivable and illegal in todays first world? Even if I wouldn't been thrown into jail for not paying taxes, I would starve because there are no woods, steppe or local flora and fauna, let alone a necessary community. We all have to do our best with what life has given us.

>That's probably why they started making yogurt in the first place.
It hasn't been started. It's just what happens to raw milk, it ferments and becomes longer consumable.

>>14970059
>Now look at my infographic
Now look back at me, I'm the captain now.
Migrations are a thing. And even if you want to fully disregard their influence, the modern turlisk and lebanese population is heavily mixed with europeans from the north, as you can see in their phenotype, culture and history. While they aren't "pure" yamnaya progeny (poles would be the next best thing at most), they are still biologically influenced and have therefore a far higher Ltolerance than their neightboors. This wouldn't be the case if they wouldn't come from a pastoral society which based their culture on dairy animals.

You truly owned me. Upboat.

>>14970059
>how dare you be against globohomo universal slush! must be a national-sozialist.

I heard that Japanese sweet potatoes make you really gassy. And by "heard", I mean "seen plenty of drawings demonstrating such"

>>14969057
Koreans like to eat steamed sweet potatoes with kimchi or roasted on their own.

Okinawans have a high average lifespan because families doesn't report it to the state whenever grandpa or grandma dies so that they can continue to collect their pension.

>>14970177
>anon advocates for regional and seasonal diets instead of meme fads and wishfull-thinking futurism

I read your google doc collection, first article was about big brained hunter gathers. But now you've changed to "hey bro I'm just about local and seasonal eating, please stop caricaturing me".

>Going by pure life expectancy is babies first statistical mistake.

I thought only native diets of euro jizz kefir could uplift the brainwashed yolk to fight against bug pizza? But now you've admitted it's literally all about culture, not about south american tomatoes. If Italy has the sixth best life-expectancy in the world, and eat a ton tomatoes which are a recent non-native addition to their diet, then how much does your point of only "native" diets matter at all? Zero.

>When we speak about native diets, we speak in millenia not decades or centuries.

When you speak of native diets, it's like joe rogan. If only we could go back to our most "native" and "natural" state then we could solve all our problems. It's just a never ending circle-jerk, we've always been fighting and dying against whatever nature throws at us and if you want a productive civilization you can't live like an african monkey.

>We all have to do our best with what life has given us.

No, you're just comfortably numb and babies first disillusionment. You'll latch on to whatever greater purpose is fed to you in hopes of making something of yourself.

>It's just what happens to raw milk, it ferments and becomes longer consumable.

They wouldn't base a huge part of their diet around it if it made them shit their pants, accident or not.

>Migrations are a thing.

Dipshit. Turkic people migrated from central asia and only arrived to the Anatolian peninsula during the 11th century, the early medieval age. Long after your precious yamnaya culture. But now you're for ethnic mixing to spread your precious lactose genes, since they helped the turks so much...

Keep digging.

>>14970394
>first article was about big brained hunter gathers
First article is about nutritional composition. Followed by multiple others, afterwards by agricultural changes and than finally to one which speaks aout the cranial capacity which also got reduced by it. So from that you make me some tarzan nazi? You're reaching due to a lack of actuel arguments and it's getting tiresome real quick.

>I thought only native diets of euro jizz kefir could uplift the brainwashed yolk to fight against bug pizza?
You are either seriously illiterate or just trying to waste even more time. Be it as it may, I'mm off to bed. Feel free to rephrase your points if you look for an actual discussion.

>it's literally all about culture
I literally just explained why lifeexpectancy is a shitty measure for diet on the example of lifestyle. From that you conclude that culture is everything. Inderdasting.

>If only we could go back to our most "native"
Nah, we can pretty well look back onto our evolution and pinpoint what our body is actually capable off. Similarly how we can determine how long we are lacto tolerant.

> just comfortably numb and babies first disillusionment
Okay. Whatever you need to tell yourself, fren.

>hey wouldn't base a huge part of their diet around it if it made them shit their pants
It's like you don't even use what has been left in your grainbrain to understand basic conversations.

>Turkic people
News flash, the minority of modern turks is majorly turkic. Which is a great part of misery for many turkish nationalists.

>during the 11th century
How often do I have to repead myself? Millenia not centuries. Nobody cares for the medieval cumbucket. Obviously mixed populations have a harder time tracking their roots and diets.

But whatever, I'm taking a nice healthy hat of sleep.
Hope you'll feel better tomorow.

>>14969076
That's not a yam wtf. That's a sweet potato. Completely different plant - I wouldn't eat a kumara raw but raw yam is delicious!

>>14970463
>You're reaching due to a lack of actuel arguments and it's getting tiresome real quick.

Did you change your position again? Is your position not that hunter gathers had big brains because of meat consumption and lack of agricultural practices. I'm sure you'll change it again and again.

>I literally just explained why lifeexpectancy is a shitty measure for diet on the example of lifestyle

That's the point dipshit. If a group of people is eating something relatively new in their history, and it isn't have any noticeable effect on their longevity then your muh only native kefir pure european diet is bullshit.

>grainbrain
Kek.

>News flash, the minority of modern turks is majorly turkic.

Obviously, being so far from central asia they've absorbed genes and culture practices from those closest to them. Your first claim was they were indo-europeans, now you've conceded they mixed. Doesn't help your claims, that modern Turkish people are 70% lactose intolerant but eat a shit ton of diary products. It's not native to their genes but they've adapted it to their culture, which again is my point.

>Obviously mixed populations have a harder time tracking their roots and diets.

Kek. I'm sure you have the magical tablets to the perfect yuropen diet, which will unlock all the mysteries.

>hat of sleep
You type like an alcoholic.

>>14969412
I just do them in a baking pan. I line it with foil so that I won't have to clean it up when they leak juice/syrup, but they're not covered in foil. I also prick them with a fork a few times though idk if that's necessary or not
>>14969413
Godspeed yambrother you will enjoy. A tiny little bit of ground clove makes it even better, but cinnamon alone is very tasty

>>14969057
i feel so much better eating sweet potatoes in a meal compared to regular potatoes
why is that and why haven't all fast food chains adopted to sweet potato fries

>>14971070
More vitamins, less starch, more flavor, easier on the tummy

>>14969057
>good recipes for sweet potatoes
Roast them (in pieces) in some oil, garlic, salt, chopped chilies, and rosemary.

>>14969057
>The Okinawans have among the highest lifespan in the world.
Poor bastards.

Can you imagine the horror of being stuck here in life for like an extra 20 years as a geriatric?

>>14969057
Idk if it's that.

The sweet potato shit comes from a study done in 1949, when the war had destroyed their land and their hogs. You'll also notice their calories are incredibly low, and this is because they were in the middle of a famine.
Okinawans WORSHIP pork. I even saw an interview with an old ass Okinawan who credited pork as a key to longevity.

Obviously they don't eat too much food in general, and Okinawans do shit like farm work and other exercise which also helps with longevity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4M5rjyNdI&ab_channel=SassyGran

>>14970474
That's the grocery store labeling. Technically it's a misnomer but people know what it is.

>>14972083
The japanese used to just walk off into the woods until they got lost and died rather than be geriatric.

>>14969652
Your bullshit argument really falls flat when the European (and therefore probably your American "diet" as well) diet looked massively different even 400 years ago, not to mention 2000 years ago. Genetics dont adapt that quickly, and yes, red meat was not eaten by the metric ton after it was factory farmed and filled with antibiotics and steroids, it was a rarity.
Imbecile bullshitter.

>>14972367
>400 years ago, not to mention 2000 years ago
We have a paleolithic gut, 400 or 2000 years is the change of modern diets. Before modern agriculture we had a stable one for a couple hundred millenia. That's where it settled, Even within 6000 years of dairy farming our gut still is adopting it. Diet changes which occured later aren't even relevant.

It would be great if people like you, trying to chim in on a topic would at least understand the basics of a conversation.

>>14970745
>Is your position not that hunter gathers had big brains because of meat consumption and lack of agricultural practices.
It's not only my position but archeological and evolutionary fact. Mind you this has nothing to do with your claim of:
>I thought only native diets of euro jizz kefir could uplift the brainwashed yolk to fight against bug pizza?
Which is ignored because of obvious low effort shitposting. But to add now, kefir isn't HG, it's an adaptation later on which we already evolved/ are evolving to benefit from. It's relevant to the ontext in so far as to show that different populations can't just ad hoc decide to implement other people food receiving the same benefits. It takes multiple millenia to adapt, if at all.

>>14970745
> If a group of people is eating something relatively new in their history, and it isn't have any noticeable effect on their longevity then your muh only native kefir pure european diet is bullshit.
Please try to to express your thoughts in a way worthy of a reply, anon. And again, you still don't even understand the kefir part, throwing it into the HG diet like there is no tomorrow. Not only that you still do not understand that longlivety isn't something you can only contribute to a single food source (maybe with the exceptin of american coryn syrup). It's a complex topic, if you want to measure the benefits of food in regards to health you are much better served in taking in height in relation to weight. With height, which corelates with cranial volume (in males), you will see that HG populations throuh a high animal protein diet have been the tallest only shortly overgrown by moderns which is due to estrogenic components which prevent growth plate closure at the proper age as well a diet high in calories which not only push height but also weight. This means, that while we are currently as tall and some rare populations even taller, we also have gotten unproportionally fatter without our cranial volume expanding.

But we digress from the topic, which is as it seems already too complex for you.

>Your first claim was they were indo-europeans
Yes, and they partly are. Not even the frence are fully indo-european. Let alone the italians, yet you wouldn't contest in calling them by that name. In regards to lactose tolerance, they are heavily indo-europeanized, as you yourself showed with 70% being tolerant (which more likely than not strongly depends on regional ancestry more than the cumbucket term "turkish").

>>14970745
>It's not native to their genes but they've adapted it to their culture, which again is my point.
They didn't adapt lactose tolerance to their culture. They were partially mde of population which belonged to a dairy culture which evolved it over millenia to a relevant degree, just to later mix in with different cultures and migrations. Those people were LT long before the turkic invasion, long before there was a "turkish" concept.

>I'm sure you have the magical tablets to the perfect yuropen diet
No, that is why I mentioned the anti-inflammatory diet which has been proposed to find out what your very specific gut can and can't handle and why I wished OP luck on his path, as it's a long journey with an open end.

But here we talk aout smaller problems, on average europeans which come from a yamnaya influenced country will have a higher probaility of enefiting from dairy and those which come from HGs from a 70% of their _calories_(not volume) coming from animals, while 30% come from regional and seasonal greeny leafs. Populations which came from a long line of Early European Farmers (Anatolia that is) on the other hand will much better handle various kinds of grains - althought modern overbreed wheat grains due to industrial need of higher Gluten and even FODMAPS due to a lack of fermentation are still very badly handled even by them.

But again, we're getting away.

>You type like an alcoholic.
I only drink homemade eggnog. Soon.

I hope I could help you out again. Feel free to ask me more questions once you get a grip on your conversational skills.

>>14969057

Just thin slice some sweet potatoes and deep fry them into chips. Drain and dip in a 20:1:1 ratio of sugar:salt:pepper. Delicious and super easy to make.

>>14972712

Hey the faggot is back, welcome!

>It's not only my position but archeological and evolutionary fact.
Kek. Any moron can copy/paste a bunch of random research and then claim wow look at all the facts which magically support me.

>It's relevant to the ontext in so far as to show that different populations can't just ad hoc decide to implement other people food receiving the same benefits.
That's exactly what cultures do and have done since the beginning of time moron. My example of Italian culture adapting the south american tomato again proves this point dummy.

>But we digress from the topic, which is as it seems already too complex for you.
You keep adding complexity to cover for your bullshit. Again, Italians recently added the tomato and if such a new food would hurt them in anyway then we'd be able to clearly see it which we don't.

>Yes, and they partly are.
They are 70% INTOLERANT of lactose dipshit, learn how to read and drink less. Indo-European is a language family, nobody has perfectly traced the complete genetic origins of the original people who started this language family. You can quickly google the genetics on modern day turkish people, they are not close to modern day europeans at all.

>>14972725
>They didn't adapt lactose tolerance to their culture.
That's exactly what they did. You can have a diary culture without the genes for lactose tolerance. Just look at Mongolians, modern day turkish people, lebanese, and northern indians. There's a reason why there's not a special tolerance gene for water, because people culturally learned to fucking boil it or to live around areas with clean water.

>No, that is why I mentioned the anti-inflammatory diet
You told OP to say away from sweet potatoes and to only drink yuro kefir jizz...Don't know what else to say, except you're retarded. Nobody cares or believes your pseudo babble.

>>14972736
looks like you cooked yourself up some candy there mate
i dont understand why people add sugar to naturally sweet fruits and veg, it overdoes it for me
pasta looks alright tho

>>14972712
Tell me then, you fucking mongoloid wanna be smartass, what is the perfect diet and how exactly does one go about eating it, when over the last 6000 years+ most of humanity has underwent drastic changes in where and how they live and source their food. Should I make a genetic test just to be told I am 1/32 ashkenazi jew and finno ugric like apparently everyone else on this planet?
You fucking faggot with your meme diet and paleo-gut theory. Fuck off.

>>14973175
>>14973860
>Any moron can copy/paste a bunch of random research and then claim wow look at all the facts which magically support me.
That's the beauty, it doesn't matter what you think of your opponent when he can actually prove his points with meta studies.

>My example of Italian culture adapting the south american tomato again proves this point dummy.
Again, the 'mato and 'tato haven't been adopted due to culture, but biological necessity.
Culture doesn't change your gut biom, biology does through millenia (if you're lucky) or scientific progress (through artificial breeding), the later basically being biology on steroids.

>Again, Italians recently added the tomato and if such a new food would hurt them in anyway then we'd be able to clearly see it which we don't.
How many times do you need to be told that you can't just study how much food X will cost you in living days?
Those studies would make it necessary to follow and check for food intak (no self-report) through the life of a representative group of people - for x populations.
And even if you go that much out of your way, you still would have shitty data, as external, non food related problems might prolong or shorten that life.
Not only that bu artifical life extension (geriatric fucks which should have died getting keep alive and suffering without a need) or artifical life hortening (euthanasia, already prevelent in the west) will fuck it up even more.
And than, after all those problems, we are speaking about an gastroenterological irritant (lectin, saponin, capsaicin which all nightshades have) similar to FODMAPS. It wont kill you, you can live on it, but your life can get miserable if you're immun system goes full retard kamikaze developing crohn and other similarly nice symptoms - which we know certain foods, tomatoes included provoce. It does so, depending on your genetics = population. Keep in mind, you wont become a statistical mortality outlyer, if you do not hero yourself because of it. You will never know it by symply looking at death certificats.

Italiens might either belong to a population which can handle it better (which doesn't mean someone else might as well) or their lifesytel choices outweight the negative effects of said nightshades.

>You can have a diary culture without the genes for lactose tolerance.
You can, but you won't benefit from said dairy in the same way those which can do.

The point why we started to speak about dairy in the first place is to show that you can just implement random foods on random populations and expect the ame outcome. How about we would come back to that topic?

>You told OP to say away from sweet potatoes and to only drink yuro kefir jizz
Quote me, grainbrain.

>when over the last 6000 years+ most of humanity has underwent drastic changes
Humanity yes, our bodies are still pretty much the same. While you might not be able to snake mammoths anymore, that doesn't mean that you can't substitute another red meat source, as the best next thing.

>Should I make a genetic test
I already mentioned it, but I'm in a good mood, therefore: Auto-Immun Protocoll Diet. If you have trouble with certain foods or just want to learn what you rather shouldn't consume you can follo it to find out. Trial and error. Afterwards you should implement a respective diet long term. Genetic tests are useless. But either way, stop being so salty, that's bad for your bloodpressure.

>>14969533
Look!!! I found the obese poster! You should just kill yourself instead of become a burden on the health system.

>>14969652
>believing that dairy products prevent cancer

they also eat fish and fast

>>14974712
your post doesn't make any sense

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4958626/
>H. pylori infection is the major risk factor for peptic ulcer and gastric cancer and the eradication of this bacterium using antibiotics is often unsuccessful. Several microbes with known probiotic activities are shown to have inhibitory effects against H. pylori in vitro and in vivo. Inclusion of probiotics in triple therapy leads to improved efficacy and reduced side effects. Most traditional fermented foods and beverages are natural sources of probiotic microbes. Microbes directly isolated from the fermented products are shown to have anti-H. pylori activity.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21186984/
>We conclude that a 14-day regimen of triple therapy with kefir is more effective in achieving H. pylori eradication than is triple therapy alone.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21445876/
>In the AGS cell culture test, both fermented LY5-SCS and artificial LY5-SCS significantly reduced H. pylori infection and urease activity (P < 0.05).

>>14974717
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4958626/
>H. pylori infection is the major risk factor for peptic ulcer and gastric cancer and the eradication of this bacterium using antibiotics is often unsuccessful. Several microbes with known probiotic activities are shown to have inhibitory effects against H. pylori in vitro and in vivo. Inclusion of probiotics in triple therapy leads to improved efficacy and reduced side effects. Most traditional fermented foods and beverages are natural sources of probiotic microbes. Microbes directly isolated from the fermented products are shown to have anti-H. pylori activity.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21186984/
>We conclude that a 14-day regimen of triple therapy with kefir is more effective in achieving H. pylori eradication than is triple therapy alone.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21445876/
>In the AGS cell culture test, both fermented LY5-SCS and artificial LY5-SCS significantly reduced H. pylori infection and urease activity (P < 0.05).

>>14974717
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2003.01675.x
>LC1 intake had a favourable, albeit weak, effect on H. pylori associated gastritis, particularly in the antrum. Regular ingestion of fermented milk containing L. johnsonii may reduce the risk of developing disorders associated with high degrees of gastric inflammation and mucus depletion.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08905436.2011.547118
>All fermented product extracts had inhibitory potential, except for Lactobacillus bulgaricus fermented soymilk sample.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022030207700747
>Some probiotics have potential activity on the inhibition of H. pylori in vitro and in vivo and the improvement of gastritis in H. pylori infection (Hamilton-Miller, 2003). To be previously reported, B. bifidum YIT 4007 alleviated drug-induced acute injury in the rat stomach (Nagaoka et al., 1994) and improved the stage of disease in peptic ulcer patients (Yamamoto et al., 1994). To understand the potential interference to H. pylori infection, we investigated the effect of a new clone, BF-1, on the pathogen growth in vitro and the efficacy of the fermented milk on the H. pylori and serum gastric markers in vivo in humans.

>>14969596
>makes no point
>ad hom
ok kiddo, time for your diaper change

>>14974770
huh?

>>14974818
like, he directly argues against fast food and promotes high protein diets instead of fries on which on hardly can get fat

>>14969115
>beards and cowboy hats and pickup truck masculinity LARP
>norse mythology
You can tell this guy spends a lot of time on /pol/ and probably stormfront too

>>14974321

Hey fag, welcome back again!

>That's the beauty, it doesn't matter what you think of your opponent when he can actually prove his points with meta studies.

How many of your studies were actually peer-reviewed? Just look at the citations on the first two studies, pretty much all the "research" you've posted is highly-speculative.

That's the beauty of having a low IQ, you see a study and because it supports your stupid worldview you automatically think the study is correct.

>Again, the 'mato and 'tato haven't been adopted due to culture, but biological necessity.

Italians don't have a tomato gene retard. Just take two seconds to google about the history of how the tomato became a staple food in their diets, it's 100% culture.

>It wont kill you, you can live on it, but your life can get miserable if you're immun system goes full retard kamikaze developing crohn and other similarly nice symptoms

What's funny is scandinavian countries, those with the highest lactose tolerance, have the highest rates of chron's disease in europe. Fact is, you don't have any serious data. If "non-natural" diets were such a heavy burden on people, italians eating tomatoes for example, it would clearly be shown either in longevity, quality of life, lack of preventable diseases.

>You can, but you won't benefit from said dairy in the same way those which can do.

Yes you will, in fact you would benefit more since you have to process the diary which unlocks more nutrition by creating fermented drinks, yogurt, kefir, cheese, etc. All which practically eliminate lactose.

There's a reason why we do things to food, not just eat what we see like niggers.

>Quote me, grainbrain.
>>14969652
There you go fago.

Keep trying, this keeps getting funnier and funnier.

>>14970463
Sleep tight, pupper.