/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14948159
My press was getting quite dusty on my shelf, decided to show it some love.
Nothing like using €20 a bag coffee, with a €175 kettle in a €30 piece of plastic.

>>14948159
why'd the last one get deleted?

>>14948200
Checked.
Not too sure. Couldn't find it in the archive either.
Forgot how comfy brewing with this thing is.

>>14948200
probably because generals are cancer and the autism levels are through the roof

>>14948217
guess some anon's forgot their 5pm cuppa joe

>>14948218
hish and drink your hot bean water

icgfy?

So if I want to step above from using preground coffee on a french press I would need at least a grinder and maybe some other method of brewing coffee? I was looking at having some iced coffee as well for when I don't have time a couple of mornings. Is there anything special done or needed other than brewing it normally and cooling it down?
Are moka pots still out of stock?

>>14948513
You can make cold brew in your french press. Grind it coarse, like you would get pepper/salt from a mill then add it to the press, add water, but keep the lid off and just put it into the fridge overnight.
You'll need a grinder for starters. Don't get the Hario pro, grind is too inconsistent and gives you way too many fines if you're doing something like V60.
If you're lucky enough to live near a thrift store, you can always look in there for a moka pot.

>>14948545
fucking absolutely useless advice. blow some more wind up your own sails you useless noisy faggot.
>>14948545
any coffee grinder will do. get some decent quality beans, store bought will do if nothing better is available. moka pot is quickest for ice coffee, just make a brew and pour over ice. don't listen to these faggots advice, the opinion of anyone who frequents any general ever should automatically be discarded as horse shit

>>14948513
>some other method of brewing coffee
That's purely subjective, I still have my french press and enjoy it for certain kinds of beans compared to my v60. The step up is getting a decent grinder and buying decent beans, freshly ground is definitely a step up but if your buying shit beans then it's marginal. Either get a decent chink handgrinder like timemore/1zpresso or a entry level electric baratza/wilfa (handgrinders will always grind better for the same price as an electric grinder), don't bother with ceramic burrs.
If you don't wanna waste time in the morning then do cold brews in your french press the night before, great to save stale beans.
Moka pots are fiddly and inconsistent, and easily overextract. They're the closest you can get to espresso without going full autism/gearfagging though.

>>14948567
Don't listen to aggressive faggots like this.

>>14948618
don't listen to passive aggressive fags like this. the chad way to make coffee is moka pot. moka pot is simple as fuck to use, quicker to clean and doesn't produce a watery brown sewage water like a french press.

I've come to the conclusion that instant coffee is marginally worse than all other methods and but is a fraction of the time + cost. This is a hard pill to swallow but it's true.

>>14948204

dude, super nice mug, what brand is it?

>>14948618
never listen to a softly spoken meek persons advice on food or beverages. cooking and brewing are chad industries and the most well informed are always more outspoken

>>14948739
hand crafted so my brand

>What ya drinking?
Something much better then coffee
>Wheres it from?
My anus
>You getting any more?
Inevitably

>>14948618
>>14948545
>That's purely subjective
Sure I do enjoy my french press I just wanted to experiment a bit. I will definitely start looking for a grinder and maybe some local places to pick up beans. I do like taking time to make coffee, though I just can't some mornings which is why I was looking at the cold brew or iced coffee. The only reason I considered mokas are I grew up in Miami and cuban coffee from a moka pot was a staple I haven't had in years

I recently cut added sugar, so no more sugar in my coffee. People say once you get used to it you'll never go back, but I'm 1 month in and this coffee still tastes like shit.

I use a moka, filtered water, and lavazza cafe. Do I just not enjoy it? Or will I eventually get used to it?

>>14948742
The opposite is usually true for everything.

>>14948170
Based Stagg poster. I just found out wormy is on them

>what the customer says
"Can I get this French Roast ground for Turkish"
>What I hear
"I want a coffee that literally melts my stomach lining, I also hate flavour."

Im not one for making fun of someone's coffee habits but it's like you only drink coffee out of spite for yourself and the cup.

>>14948204
I like that mug anon. Very comfy

Fellow products are overpriced garbage that don't even work properly, don't buy them.

>>14949486
>Fellow products are overpriced garbage that have one fundamental flaw because of overdesigning
Ftfy
I love fellow but christ some things are just stupid, could you really not make the stagg a little bit bigger to fit a full litre? Also why use ribbed filters for the stagg dripper? It makes circular pouring a pain in the ass when I have these death pits at the side of an already small hole.

>>14948833
You're using shitty coffee

Best variable temperature electric kettle? Are the cheap Chinese ones any good?

>>14948200
Jannies are presslets.

>>14948750
Nice.

>>14949486
Poor and aggressive.

>>14949835
Stagg.

>>14948513
baratza encore

>>14949637
My prismo leaks like 20% of the time. Got a replacement from them and it still leaks.
>>14950439
I am not poor, I work in tech. They can't even get a squeeze bottle cap attachment right yet charge $25 for it. Typical San Francisco retards.

>>14949835
$60 aicook one works well for me. My bonavitas handle broke off after like 5 years of use.

>>14950701
Very odd because the prismo is the thing I have zero issues with.

I tried some double rye whiskey in my coffee today
fucking disgusting
since rye is a lot less sweet than your normal bourbon I think the flavor of the coffee overpowered the flavor of the whiskey so I was basically just left with coffee and alcohol flavor
I think it would work better with a sweeter bourbon like makers mark or something

coffee is good for you???

>>14948739
>>14949388
Got it from a cafe in Dublin. It's got a bit of weight to it and keeps my coffee hot for quite a while.

>>14948159
>What ya drinking?
I add half a level teaspoon of instant coffee to three well heaped teapoons of instant chocolate, three sweeteners, half fill it with boiling water then fill the other half with milk. Does that count as a mocha? It's tasty whatever it is, and wakes me up better than just the chocolate
>Wheres it from?
The supermarket
>You getting any more?
Probably

Who of you niggers did this?

>>14950748
Do you use paper filters with it? I put one on top of the metal filter. No idea what else I might be doing wrong, but it just leaks out the valve, not the side, so I don't think that is the issue. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

>>14951094
Found it! Thanks anon.

>>14951387
Do you have the shush no talkie coffee pepe?

>>14951351
No I've used an Oreo but oddly never a paper filter. Also what do you mean? Leaks out the valve and not the sides?

>>14951406
maybe
https://imgur.com/a/6AeT62i

>>14951439
It just leaks out of the hole that should only open under pressure, instead of around the edges where the cap seals to the aeropress. I can't reliably reproduce the issue.
>I've used an Oreo
Was it good?

>>14951599
Oooooh I get you now. It was fine, got a bit of the cream flavour but it was more just a fun experiment. I needed to add more holes, pushing it through was a pain

>>14948750
You threw this?

>>14950439
Is paying that much for a Stagg worth it? Given the same functionality wouldn’t anything cheaper be better?

>>14950721
I see a bunch of USD50-60 ones from China. Might give one a shot.

>>14952151
Apparently the stagg has a nice slow flow rate but I've never tried it.
You can get a silicone flow restrictor for the cheapo kettles if you want, but I never felt this was necessary even for my 200ml v60 brews.

>>14952151
Buy once cry once.

I'm not drinking coffee can I post

>>14952404
No. Go back to where you came from lost one

Can anyone recommend me a good instant coffee? I'm kind of in a rut with Nescafe Blend 43 (I like it but want to try new things). I've tried a couple Moccona varieties and actually I didn't like them. The Nescafe Black Roast is amazing, but what about something more mellow?

Help me /ck/, you're my only hope.

>>14952715
hmm
sorry fren, when i need cofe that quick i just go to the cafe downstairs and slam espresso

After 2 months struggling with getting all the variables right with my flair and commandante and making shitty coffee, Im finally consistently pulling shots that would put my local coffee shop to shame. Only problem is, my family members keep asking me to make them coffee despite telling them that Ill only do it once a week, and Im getting annoyed by their pestering. They said they cant go back to theur local coffee shops after tasting my liquid gold. What should I do?

>>14948159
After 2 months struggling with getting all the variables right with my flair and commandante and making shitty coffee, Im finally consistently pulling shots that would put my local coffee shop to shame. Only problem is, my family members keep asking me to make them coffee despite telling them that Ill only do it once a week, and Im getting annoyed by their pestering. They said they cant go back to theur local coffee shops after tasting my liquid gold. What should I do?

I can't have caffeine because I have Depersonalization
Last time I had coffee I got stuck in the limbo, reality felt like a 10 year old memory of a dream

>>14952735
>tfw live in a townhouse just outside the main downtown area now and don't pass any cafes on the way to work, so have to stir up my morning elixir at home

>>14952747
offer to teach them to pull shots and if they decline tell em tough shit

>>14952762
i've just taken the iced coffee pill since moving west,
i make the night before and when i get up, i have an adderall an iced coffe and a cig every morning, in that order.
just got a find a something that works for (You)

>>14952715
Coffeegay did a head to head. Might give you some direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cIqLvJz8VM

>>14952747

Yeah flair+manual is def the way to go. Once you've pulled ~50 shots, sprayed 3 on your counter, choked 4 off completely, you kind of know your grinder's range and know how much coarser or finer you can go after pulling a new coffee once.

>They said they cant go back to theur local coffee shops after tasting my liquid gold. What should I do?

Normalize a dose and give them a weekly bean allowance. Slowly con them into chipping in for dope single origins to try.

>>14952807
>Might give you some direction.
thanks friend, I found that just annoying and utterly useless, because he doesn't like anything and he's a complete wanker anyway. I'll just have to roll the dice I think

Had a cup of "Idee" coffee this morning, got it from the discount bin and it's pretty cash.

Also is there anything better than letting your Aroma boy drip for 5 minutes and then enjoy with toast? I think there's not.

>Organic Papua New Guinea Keto Tapasi
Thoughts on this?

>>14948159
Misplaced my french press awhile back so instead of my usual fp coffee I've been making a batch of cold brew every other night in a quart sized mason jar. Let it steep in the fridge overnight and strain through a cheesecloth.

Got up extra early today & didn't feel like making myself fall back asleep. Using a local brand in moka pot. Pretty good but time to switch it up, been drinking the same stuff for a few months now.

>>14948159
I got this. Mostly I use the Deloghi but I use the filter sometimes when I’m lazy

I just did a pre-dawn roast and blew out all the coffeesmoke at the neighbors' open windows. Good morning, everyone!
:)

>>14953143
Morning :););)

>>14951406
Here's one.
>>14951392
Coffee Angel make some good coffee too. Worth stopping by if you live in Dublin.
>>14952151
>>14952195
Got a Stag for my birthday this year after some anons gave me advice. I love it. It feels so good in the hand, isn't too heavy either. The flow rate is very controllable however it can only pour so fast, so if you want to pour it into a french press and get too impatient, you can have water come out the top. If you decide to get one, don't buy it off amazon, I got mine for €170 including shipping from an online retailer in the UK using discount codes I looked up. Saved €100 compared to amazon.
>>14952996
Sounds comfy, post pics next time you make it.

Morning lads. Word of advice, clean out your knock boxes. I just looked inside mine. I've created life.

thinking about those beans

>>14948159
nescafe gold
sumatra, indonesia
probably

i read that instant coffee is bad for iron absorption. i would like to find something better for my iron/organs but am on a budget

>>14948204
Are we cup posting?

Making a turkish coffee this morning, friends. Do I scrape all of the grounds from the pot into the cups or just pour and leave the bulk of the grounds in the pot?

Post aesthetic cafes

>>14948159
Do black people drink coffee?

I have a pid'ed silvia
for home espresso, is there a good price:performance upgrade? I'm guessing we would be venturing past single boiler territory but not sure what some reputable brands are

>>14948159
starbucks is anything you guys could make at home, why do you guys bother?

Why do people pretend dark roast is the best?
Dark roast literally only has that carsinogenic burnt taste when compared to light roast. Light roast tastes more like the actual coffee.
I swear this is yet again one of those masculinity memes that you just need to conform to or else people will think you are a fag.

Why do people pretend light roast is the best?
Light roast literally only has that acidic grassy taste when compared to dark roast. Dark roast tastes more like the actual coffee.
I swear this is yet again one of those masculinity memes that you just need to conform to or else people will think you are a fag.

>>14953625
Your press is adorable. Nice cup too by the way.

Has anyone tried one of these cold brew drip towers? How are they?

>up to 50% of people don't enjoy natural process coffee because they're put off by the subtle fermented taste

Why are there so many plebs in this world?

>>14955192
Yeah if you're talking to normies. Light and medium roasts are the only things coffee enthusiasts talk about

>>14955407
Dark roast at their best just taste like barely burnt cigarettes. Light roasts aren't all great, but a good natural process one can have a fuckton of flavor. My favorites are milk chocolaty with hints of fruit or fruit and spice. Simple, but always delicious.

>>14956041
Curb is so funny that I laugh without knowing what's happening.

>>14953833
I'm black and have a french press, v60, encore, and Lido 3. I love coffee. My grandpa drank it every morning too, but just Folgers with cream. I miss him.

>>14956348
I consider full city a dark roast but maybe it's more of a medium roast in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't tend to taste ashy to me, more dark or baking chocolate. I won't go any darker than that though.
>My favorites are milk chocolaty with hints of fruit
same here, I like it smooth.

>>14953178
Sure, have a batch I already strained but I'll take a pic in the morning with my grinder.

>>14948159
>What ya drinking?
Folgers Instant
>Wheres it from?
No Idea
>You getting any more?
YES

>>14952715
whelp, I've done my research. Out of all the brands available in my neighbourhood grocery store, the best one seems to actually be memebucks. I haven't had it yet but I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. I've gone through so many instant jars there's no reason not to try it. People seems to think it's the bees tits

>>14952715
my favorite is cafe bustelo. but it costs so much more compared to the grounds, I don't often bother. Cafe Legal is one I don't hear much of but you'll find it in mexican stores and aisles, had initially tried some that a coworker left in the lunchroom.

>>14956619
sadly I cannot get either in Australia

>>14956555
based trips

>>14956666
:O

>>14956422
He sounds cool.

>>14956666
XD checked quads!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQnl45GZgOM
based

you can't hassle the hoff

Why do people like central american coffees? they're all the nutty/chocolatey type and all taste the same to me.

>>14956429
I've had full city mediums for some african beans and it was just way too much, just too burnt for my tastes and numbs out any notes. For me, it's city or lighter.

Are there any "spicy" or "funky" coffees?

>>14957329
>nutty/chocolatey type and all taste the same to me.
Because chocolate and nut flavors are good and easy to drink. Not every cup needs to be a fruit blast especially when you drink a lot of coffee.
>>14957348
Sumatra

>>14957385
>fruit flavor notes
>chocolate flavor notes
>in fucking coffee
coffee confirmed for faggot juice

>>14957334
Different strokes I guess. Lighter than city just tastes like acid and grass to me.

>>14957398
fag

>>14953833
Of course they don't.
Black people tend not ro work,

Right chaps, I need help. I bought a gaggia classic, 2007, so with the three-way solenoid valve etc. The previous owner said he had adjusted down the brew pressure to between 9 and 10 bar. For context.. I understand how espresso brewing works, but I am fairly new to it.

My problem is the first pull. After the first pull the machine is fairly well behaved, I can do 18in/36out in 30s without significant channelling based on puck inspection (I don't have a blind basket to check during pull).

However, the first pull always goes wrong. I think something disturbs the puck and causes serious channelling - maybe a burst of steam or something? The puck looks like it's dented in the centre after brewing, and the shot takes ~10s irrespective of finer grind. It simply has to be channelling, the resultant shot is both under and over extracted, with a strong saline taste.

My question is how do I fix this? I've tried purging steam through the wand and purging the boiler until the ready light goes off, then heating it up again. I tried putting in a blank basket like I do for cleaning in case it's a sticky valve or something, and needs a pressured shot to fix it. I don't understand espresso, or espresso machines, well enough to figure out what to do, but I'm getting rather annoyed that I cannot get the first shot to be anything but a waste. Any suggestions?

>>14957394
>faggot juice
Such wonders I could show you.

Why do Australians seem to think Espresso is the only acceptable way of extracting black juice from a bean?

>>14957907
same insecurity complex that am*ricans have. the aussie snob has the weight of inbred criminality hanging over him, a chip on his shoulder that he can never remove and can only cover up in layers and layers of expensive tasmanian cashmere. aussies, like americans, can only understand lowest common denominator trash, or unnecessarily autistic snob shit with artificial scarcity and heaps and heaps of "urban" artifice. the idea of "good enough" terrifies him. curiously this is a very similar mental illness to the one that afflicts the japanese, a "heaven or hell" culture that regards perfection to be both a hubristic affront to the divine and a totalitarian mandate that must be pursued at ALL costs. but what makes the japanese version bearable is that the japanese man is forced by his own culture to cop a "humble" attitude and avoid any overt signs of self-promotion

>>14957839
>>14957878
>>14957907
>>14957941
fags

>>14948833

Have you tried stevia? I also don't mind Splenda as a sugar substitute (I know it's pleb-tier, but worth a try if you really miss the sweetness).

>>14956666

CHECKED

>>14957951
no u

>>14953178>>14952996
Got this hand grinder years ago as a christmas present from my mom which replaced a Fox Run brand I had used for years (which I had to get a 4mm nut to help keep the fucking handle from coming loose while grinding beans). I own a fuckton of mason jars to store stuff in so this workaround in lieu of a press is pretty handy. Also good for making batches of sun tea.

Normally I'll just have coffee ground and placed in a jar at night for the morning and tea leaves set in another jar while sipping coffee for to have in the evening. Inconsistent with it but it's a good cycle.

The coffee I normally get is Counter Culture Forty-Six.

>>14958067
fag

>>14958067
>Counter Culture
Racist/10

>>14958067
Protip: Mason jars use the same lids as mayonnaise jars. Get some 2way valves and jam them into the lids for bean storage.

I like my coffee with cream cheese and wasabi.

Coof

>>14960414
fooC

can I make turkish coffee If I only have an electric coil stove

I pour my strong coffee over a chai tea bag and let it steep. Add milk and stevia.

>>14957941

Ive been drinking drip coffee my whole life I just found out about pour over. Should I buy one is it worth it? I don't have much to spend they cut off my neetbux recently. Whats a good one that won't break that bank.

>>14958098
>https://sprudge.com/counter-culture-coffee-faces-public-allegations-and-apologies-164701.html
Skimmed it and I don't even know what they did wrong, it doesn't seem the guy did anything at all? Anyone know?
The takeaway for me is you just shouldn't hire niggers or women if you don't want your business to be undermined.

>>14948159
You cant beat the flair when it comes to espresso makers under 600. Ive literally made cups of coffees that were better than my sisters 800 dollar German Espresso machine after months of learning how to dial it in and controlling flow rate. Im so impressed that Im buying a Pro 2 Brew head . If youre someone who drinks specialty coffee and likes to experiment but youre not rich enough to afford a machine with pressure and flow control, get a flair. Its harder work but the rewards are there.

>>14962294
>You did those specific unspecified things to me that I think are racist.
I joined BLM protests rhis summer, but this letter looks like a Starbucks psy-op to me lmao.

>>14959233
That sounds like a good idea, unfortunately I don't like mayonnaise. The 2-way valve is something useful to keep in mind though.

So what's the actual brew ratio I should use?

The SCAA says 1:18, so 55g/liter, but when I do that my coffee becomes undrinkable bitter, especially in the last cup. I'm sure it isn't my brewing method because I do all the recommended steps you can find online.
It becomes way more drinkable and aromatic at around 32g/liter, or a brew ratio of 1:31, which is also closer to the 6g pads/cup in padmakers.
Am I the only one having that problem?

>>14963312
No, I really do not like bitter strong coffee either. For a while I thought I was just being incompetent, but I'm now quite convinced it's a matter of taste - based on all technical measures my brewing is consistent and good at high strengths, and I've tasted coffee at enough reputable speciality cafes to conclude high concentration coffee is not a flavour profile I enjoy.

I tend to settle at a concentration slightly lower than yours, in the 20-25g/l range, which produces a coffee that is - strength wise - not dissimilar to tea. For new coffees I grind fine, then gradually increase grind size until the 'wall' of strong bitterness goes. I also strongly recommend using a good soft water, when making these light brews highly mineral waters seem to skew extraction significantly.

Regarding strong coffee, if it's not a matter of taste you could be over-extracting. This might be due to water that is too hot, but more likely due to a grind size that is too fine. Try to increase coarseness in rough steps and see if the bitterness is reduced (note that if your grind becomes too coarse it'll be sour instead). I personally find that I can detect the right zone for pourover brews, but it does not result in a coffee I particularly enjoy. Low concentrations are much more my preference.

>>14957907
Because we started drinking coffee much earliar than any other angloid country due to our high Med population, so at this point espresso is just established as the 'traditional and correct' way to drink coffee
>>14957941
cringe that you wrote all of this out

>>14963174
Might be edged out by the Cafelat Robot at sub $600. Less cleanup and better workflow at similar shot quality, and it can pull multiple shots pretty well.

Are any coffee subscriptions worth it? If so which ones? I tried shopping locally and all the local roasters are pretty shit here. How do you all find good coffee?

>>14963986
Import coffee from Norway.

Rate my mugs

>>14963174
based, I ended up with better shots out of my flair pro than my HX after just 3 dial in shots. plus it's just way more fun to use. I don't make milk drinks and don't care about "entertaining" so this is perfect for me.
maybe when I retire I'll upgrade to a cremina or something.
>>14963768
too bad about the horrible shitting lego man design, what were they thinking?

>>14948170
Based yeah poster

>>14948159
community coffee morning brew

>>14963768
Can't even fit an acaia lunar underneath and it comes with way shittier creature comforts(funnel tamper etc). I'm also not clear on whether or not you can add a pressure gauge to the robot after buying the standard. Its just a piston swap in the flair.

>>14963243
Noone took the bait :( A 2 way valve is a hole. But yeah, check your plastic lids for sizing. I just know Hellmans and all the other mayos of the same size use the same lids. Way easier to cut plastic than to drill out metal lids imo. Save your coffee bags to harvest the ONE WAY valves. You can also just use the metal rings and cut out bigger squares of material around the valve.

Just bought some coffee that turned out to be already 3ish weeks out on its roast date. What can I do to make it keep for longer?

What do you guys do when you need to serve coffee to a bunch of people, like with family? Make a bunch with a V60? Drip?

>>14948159
That's all I drink.

>>14965350
From roasters I've spoken to, freezing coffee within an air tight container/bag is fine for extending its lifespan. Other than that, the only thing you can do is keep it in an air tight container and out of direct sunlight.

>>14948159
Redpill me on instant coffee

>>14965431
You can lip the coffee from an MRE to get that caffeine.

>>14965371
V60 funnels and filters are designed to handle a certain ammount of "Cups" of coffee, so overloading them may cause issues. it takes around 5/7 minutes to make each one so serving to 10 can take over an hour. This is actually why you never see coffee shops that only serve pour over and if you do, they probably aren't too profitable.
You might be better off brewing a large batch of cold brew the night before or grab some french presses from a thrift store and serve it up that way.

>>14965431
it is fucking vile, much worse than pre-ground. I would just quit coffee altogether if it was the only thing available.

>>14965463
I grew up with a perc. Not perfect but maybe I'll get a cheap one for company and stick with that

>>14965471
How about muckefuck then? German after-war coffee substitute

Is the Niche Zero worth the asking price for single dosing espresso?

>>14965529
>muckefuck
never heard of it (burger here).
accept no substitutes. I also hate chicory.

>>14965008
lol I'm retarded

Is there much of a need to have that valve since I open it almost daily?

i am coffee newfag

https://www.amazon.com/1LB-Jamaica-Jamaican-Mountain-Coffee/dp/B07HCQ9D5N/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=jamaican+coffee&qid=1603752716&sr=8-6

is this a good bag of beans or is my money better spent on something else?

>>14965951
Your money would be spent better on literally anything else, such as trader joes. You can get the same amount from any small roaster for half the price, and the beans will have been roasted only a few days prior and won't be absolute shit. I order from happy mug

>>14965951
glad you asked newfag.
jamaican and hawaiian coffees are overpriced memes. don't buy them.

>>14966132
Columbian?

>>14965793
Probably not but if you've got valves to harvest why not.

Anyone wants to pick up kruve shit they just sent out a 15% off code for consistently missing preorder shipping dates.

Code PREORDER15OFF
Expiration date: Jan 1, 2021

Got my 1zpresso JE-plus, really like it so far
If you're put off by the Asian brand, don't be, the build quality is very solid
This grinds catch is awesome too, the stopper thing forms the bottom so when you pull it out the grinds fall right out the bottom of the grinder into the basket

>>14966144
colombians are fairly priced and can be very high quality. like the other guy said, best to get something freshly roasted. you shouldn't pay more than $15 for a bag.
>>14967078
nice, I have the K-plus and love it. there's only a few usable settings for espresso but it works for me.

>>14965539
better off hand grinding or getting a vario

>>14965431
should only be used as a hot cocoa additive

>>14967474
based and hot coco pilled

Guys. GUYS. I bought it, and I'm seriously thinking it's the best instant I've ever had. It's actually fucking good, tastes like fresh hot drip coffee †bh. The smell alone when I open the jar is amazing, and it tastes pretty great. Not weak, not bitter, just good stuff. It's about $10 to make 40 cups, which is actually expensive for instant but still for palatable coffee that's cheaper'n horsecocks. For anyone in my predicament I actually recommend it.
>tfw I didn't really want to like it because memebucks, but the truth is the truth
>>14956582

I use a keurig and put plenty of cream and sugar in my coffee.

Seethe you hipsters.

>>14968018
t. charcucks shill
>>14968030
congratulations on your low standards. I like to drink boxed wine.

>>14968047

redpill me on moka pots and french presses
at the moment I just use a regular coffee maker

>>14968112
>moka pot
never used one so they must suck
>french press
too many fines end up in the cup, leading to poor mouthfeel
paper filtered coffee is superior unless it's espresso

I finally made a decent cup of coffee bros
I'm enlightened

>>14968119
not him but moka pot doesn't suck

Coof

High quality beans from a good roastary >>>>>> good machine
Premium coffee beans in an office drip machine tastes better than cheap coffee made with your best pour over technique.

>>14969465
you're supposed to do both, dumbass

>>14969563
Good coffee is so good that "better" brewing techniques can't improve anymore

>>14969575
I don't believe that to be true

>>14969575
If I take a €500 bag of geisha and throw it into a percolator, it's still going to taste like shitty over extracted percolator coffee

>>14969777
This. Any coffee in a shitty machine will end up tasting like water.

>>14969465
And la flor dominicanas lit with a bic taste better than white owls lit with a st dupont.

For the more seasoned coffee vets here, does softer water result in more transparency in the flavor of a coffee at the cost of less extraction? I'm mostly aiming to increase the separation of flavor notes in my coffee. I found a cafe that uses very soft water and has extremely distinct flavor notes in their pour over and was wondering if there is a correlation.

>>14970364
Maybe a bit. I find you can push extraction more with lower gh without getting a "heavy" feeling cup. Mostly though, flavor separation is down to really even extraction, good quality beans, and a lower concentration as well as paper filtration.

>>14970364
$1 of distilled and espom + bicarb is cheap. Experimentation has never been more affordable.

bros I've been drinking nothing but dark roast for a few weeks and I've felt like death this whole time. I don't think it's a coincidence.

>>14970399
I'm messing around with water a bit now with those solutions but I'm a little ways away from perfect with my technique and grind setting, so I don't want to add water as a changing variable for now. Will definitely be experimenting with water recipes when I get the other factors to a good standard.

>>14948159
newfag here, went to a local coffee place to see what light roast is all about. Asked for milk and sugaron the side and I felt like I was being judged. Why are people so butthurt over milk? I didn't even ask for it to be mixed with the coffee, just on the side just in case.

>>14948159
>>What ya drinking?
House blend or french roast
>>Wheres it from?
The groceries
>>You getting any more?
Been having that for over 20 years

Honestly, i've tried a lot of the different types and processes, even the meme ones and i never really found then any good. Just plain drip maxhine brew is fine, served black or with some 10% cream. There's one thing I won't skip though and it's grinding the beans at the moment. I found this to be the crucial step.

>>14971809
People at good cafes spend a lot of time and effort making sure that coffee tastes really good without any additives. Adding milk would drown out flavors a person tried to bring out in your coffee. It's less them judging you out of elitism and more about the feeling of wasted effort and expensive beans.

>>14973441
It's my money, they can fuck off.

>>14971809
They were judging you over the sugar, not the milk. Milk is already sweet. Sugar + milk is sickly sweet. Light roasts tend to be have sweet notes like sugars, honey, fruits. If you add sugar to them you overpower those. They were looking at you like you just poured table salt all over country ham. I mean, it's your coffee, but, lol.

>>14973568
>Light roasts tend to be have sweet notes like sugars, honey, fruits
In the end I drank the coffee black and while there were subtle elements of this, it wasn't "sweet" like all the pretentious fucks claim it to be. That being said, it was interesting and I'd be open to exploring this hobby once the pretentiousness and hipster fee wanes.

>>14971809
most likely they were judging you for being weirdly indecisive or asking for a free cup of milk. also have you considered the possibility that you are just paranoid and insecure?

>>14973577
>or asking for a free cup of milk
It's a fucking cafe, surely they're aware that some people drink it with milk. Just because they decide it needs to be drank black doesn't mean some occasional newcomers would want milk.
>paranoid and insecure
No. The barista said "oh", and let out a visible sigh when getting the milk.

>>14973586
>>14973586
whatever, you sound way too butthurt not to be insecure. normally you'd order a latte or something if you want a milk drink. you may have short circuited their wagie autopilot brain.

>>14973576
Yeah, I've also had a lot of coffee that's just not very good. As much as they talk it up, and as much as there technically ARE those flavors there, a lot of these coffees just aren't explosively flavorful. I really only started getting truly special coffees when I began roasting. There just aren't many lots of the really good stuff grown every year to have year round even on a personal scale, let alone on a small commercial roasting scale. They're just few and far between. So you just go for pretty good most of the time and appreciate when you get your paws on really good cooffee. I have personally never seen people get all judgy about milk or cream. Sugar, yes.

>>14948159
Any new ways to prepare espresso/cappuccino? I've got an espresso machine and I always do it the usual way or freddo espresso if it's hot outside

>>14951245
What is with all of these meme ads anyway? Is there something that I missed out on?

Post coffee frogs for my collection

For me it's Paul Newman

What's a good scale for weighing coffee beans, and other small things? I already have a large kitchen scale, but it doesn't seem accurate enough.

>>14973576
It's possible whoever made your coffee made a shitty cup

>>14968129
congrats! when it's good, it's really good, isn't it? what extraction method did you use?

>>14974461
Iunno. I've got an acaia lunar. Probably overkill for you. Get a $5 aliexpress jewelers scale. .1 or .01 resolution.

Ordered an Timemore C2 from aliexpress after using a noname ~$15 grinder for a year. What am I in for?

>>14974960
It was a pour over with some Guatemalan beans. I was actually off with my timing but the cup turned out great anyway. I really want to be able to make that kind of coffee more often, awesome way to start the day off.

>>14975252
Alignment issues and placebo effect

>>14975751
this desu, I lost count of clicks but notice that i feel the burrs grinding against each other. not sure how to realign it or assemble it, the fucking guide is in broken english.

Roast day today. 3 batches of the same coffee - costa rica that underwent some lactic fermentation. Here's the cold start warm up batch.

>>14976060
Working on interbatch consistency. The warm up batch used to be a throw away, but now the profile is working better. Still not quite the same as the following batches.

>>14976066
And the third. There was a hiccup in artisan around and after FC so it logged the FC time a bit late and also the drop time late. 7:45 an 9:00 were the actual times. Going to make an espresso.

>>14975751
Eh, still will probably be 10x less wobbly than the one im using now. Im not expecting to have a woah-moment when tasting the coffee but im pretty sure grinding beans will be alot more enjoyable with it.

>>14976075
The coffee is too fresh but it's all I have roasted so I'll grind it and let it degas a bit while the machine warms up

>>14976185
Giving it a go. The machine is an old La Pavoni Europiccola. Grind seems a bit too fine.

>>14976221
Yup, pretty over extracted.

>>14976231
Round two. Took the grind from 2 to 2.5. Super fine setting, mostly due to the tiny (12g) dose. For an 18g dose I would be grinding around a 4.5-6.

>>14957426
kek, so true.

>>14976239
And the second shot. Tastes much better. Some strawberry and peach. Will taste much better in a few days.
Side note: these lever machines are confusingly designed. The group chamber holds a very small amount of water, and this often leads to either a long preinfusion phase to allow the water to be absorbed by the coffee making room for more water to be drawn in, or the user must jiggle the lever a bit to push some water into the coffee and draw more in. Either way, it could be easily remedied by allowing for 20g or so more water to be drawn into the chamber.

>>14948170
>>14948204
Wait, wtf is this upside-down method?

>next level coffee autism

>>14948159
>>14948159
hazelnut from Guatemala

>>14976329
Inverted method, it's pretty based

>>14976329
Look up "inverted method"

What's your score

https://www.myvocab.info/en-en

>>14976449
>>14976578
Thanks, might make a cup of decaf to try.

the mailman stuffed my roommates package into the mailbox and it's stuck in there, and also blocking me from getting my coffee out of the box. fucking mail workers, the old guy never did shit like this. ever since he retired it's a constant rotation of new people fucking up all the time

>>14976604
21800.

>>14976181
It'll be better than the taiwanese trash 1zpressos these nerds are all giddy about.

>>14971809
The very name light roast implies the flavor will be subtle and additives would ruin it, but still, the barista was in the wrong. It's a cafe, not a 5 star french restaurant.

It's one thing to have personal preferences, but to openly judge paying customers over their preferences is beyond retarded.

>>14976915
incorrect.
also fuck china.
t. own both of them

>>14977103
Why would you want 2 slightly above shit tier grinders?

>>14977158
why do you ask passive aggressive questions? are you a woman?
oh you're probably just chinese.

>>14977170
Post em side by side and/or you're full of shit.

>>14977103
How do you like them and how do they compare vs any others you have if you don't mind sharing?

>>14977204
>>14977434
1zpresso destroys timemore across the spectrum and can do espresso. It is a joy to use. I can grind 18g espresso in 30 seconds. It produces notably less fines as it ought to given the price difference. I hear the JX pro is even better and cheaper. Apparently it's comparable to a comandante which I haven't tried. Timemore has visible alignment issues and takes forever to grind on the finest settings. There are visibly more boulders in coarser settings. But it isn't a bad grinder at all. I have both intending to use one as backup.

>>14977532
One step below chink shit. Imagine paying $160 for a burr set they didn't bother to polish after machining.

>>14977607
Imagine caring about $160 or burr polish. Sorry you are an autistic neet.

>>14977607
Why would you up production costs for no reason? Extremely slight burring of the burr edges won't affect the crushing process whatsoever and having no burr polishing step saves money that would essentially be wasted.

>>14977711
Other than the rough edges trapping particle build up, yeah. Why would you think clean milling work is a waste in a product you're trying to adjust by 100ths of millimeters at a time?

>>14970380
Thanks for the advice. I might play around with it in the future to see, but as expected I have some work to do before I can easily decipher if my water has anything to do with the flavor I get from my coffee.