/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14961282
I don't know what a za is.

>>14961282
because the best 'za is from 'ttle 'ce'srs. Why go to the effort?

nothing
i do it all the time and they come out nice even though i have a tiny poorfag oven

>>14961282
>decent
My, my, aren’t we generous?

>>14961288
Thats because you're a gay european

>>14961282
nothing. what about you?

>>14961306
I was born and raised in WA state. I'll just call it cheesy bread.

>>14961322
nice got a recipe and a cross section?

>>14961282
For me, it's cast iron meme pizza.

I do it solely as a way of using up all my cheese that's going to get old. Winco's pizza stands sell $2 bags of their dough, and using it I can have everything made and thrown in the oven in well under 10 minutes.
The result is a fucking disgrace but still better than what any of the low-end pizza chains make.

>>14961298
it's 'tle 'sars dumbass

>>14961400
>calling someone a dumbass when unironically abbreviating words that have no business being abbreviated
Take a look in the mirror, pal.

>>14961417
Stop derailing the thread and tell us how you make your 'za.

>>14961298
Im tellin ya Jerry, alotta people want to make their own pizza pie

>>14961322
based

>>14961375
no cross section sorry. that za was pretty shit desu.
pic related is one that was actually tasty.
I keep it simple and don't care how it looks.
dough is 1000g flour, 700g water, 1.5g yeast, 15g salt. proof overnight on the counter and then divide into balls, put in the fridge and use whenever. the longer you wait the better.
sauce is just canned san marzano tomatoes, oregano, garlic powder, olive oil and salt to taste.
cheese is fresh mozzarella and/or low moisture part skim.
I build and bake the za on parchment paper because it's easier.
bake in oven at max temp (550F) with a preheated pizza stone/steel, 5-6 minutes, finish under the broiler for another minute or two.

>>14961417
easy there bud. feeling a tad snippy? a bit peckish?
nothing $5 'ot n 'eady 'za cant fix!! it's a delicious, nutritious treat for discerning pie lovers everywhere.
'tle 'sars: we have the 'za that makes you go "ahhh"

>'za
>decent

>>14961440
giddyup

>>14961444
What?

>>14961282
i thought this was one of those garlic naan bread things

>>14961282
nothing.

I only have a conventional oven, without a pizza stone, but it’s ok.

Without pizza stone, but it’s ok. I’m fine.

>>14961482
pizza bianca, son.

Nothing like some 'go 'za with 'cha, right guys?

>>14961282
I'm not 12

>>14961282
I can't make proper pizza dough to save my life. It's always too dry and crumbly. Needs more gluten, maybe?

>>14961282
The Jews

>>14961282
I don't have a wood fire oven and don't want to buy/make one. You can't make a proper pizza without one. If you do, despite being edible and maybe even apetising, it'll be sub-standard and I never make sub-standard food.

>>14961322

>>14962672
kek, saved

just made this traditional italian masterpiece
leftover potroast, stubb's, and mozzarella

I've tried a bunch of ny style recipes and the crust always turns out like a tough cracker by the time the cheese is done, 550 preheated stone. I'm usually to impatient to let the dough ferment for multiple days so maybe that's it?

>>14962874
Broiler

>>14961282
For it to be decent, it requires a powerful oven which the average one isn't. I tried a good one, but somehow the fuses blew every time I used it.

>>14961282
>homemade 'za
go back

>>14962889
lo or hi?

>>14961298
all my friends give me shit for sharing the same opinion as you on pizza.
i just call it zar though.

>>14961298
they're the only chain with sauce that isn't nauseatingly sweet but everything else is terrible.

>>14961298
Yeah, it's funny after making homemade pies only for a long time I decided to try little caesars again to see how it compared and it pretty soundly beat me. I can get the cheese browner, use better toppings and sauce, but I'll never be able to make a dough as well in my shitty home oven.

>>14961282
that they turn out like your pic. That's not a za, thats focaccia with shit on top. Can't make a real za without a za oven.

>>14961282
Don't have a bread machine

>>14961282
Time. I work 6 days a week and spend my one day off with my girlfriend. If it takes more than 40 minutes to prepare then I ain't makin it.

>>14961282
that looks kinda raw

>>14961282
My 2020 cutting goals

>>14961298
I unironically kind of had to come to a conclusion that making home-made pizza wasn't working for me, since A., it didn't taste significantly better than Little Caesars, and B., it cost more than Little Caesars.

I'm not saying Little Caesars is amazing, but goddamn, they mog you on a cost, to taste, to effort ratio.

Rate my homemade 'za

>>14961288
Lasagna.

>>14963129
murrica/10

>>14961282
I live in the USA.
All the cheese is made pasteurized milk.
Fucking sucks.

>>14961282
My inability to make a decent homemade pizza desu

>>14963038
Making dough yourself is close to zero cost, how is it possible for you to make your homemade pizza expensive?
I had to try over and over (remember the 600 omelettes) before I got pizza right, same with any other dish. It's ok on the first try but you gotta keep going to make it great.

my oven broke and I don't feel like replacing it, got nice cast iron skillets with lids can I make one stove-top or will it just get burned in center and raw on sides ?

>>14961282
>decent
>ops pic
pic one

Nothing. I do it all the time with leftover ciabatta dough from my bakery.

>>14961282
My mozz went bad. All I have in my fridge is cheddar. I'll probably make some 'ac and 'eese with it before I go to the store again.

Nothing but once I got used to cold fermented dough I can't go back. So the it takes a couple days of prep.

>>14963532
this is the next step for me, tell me more about this? how many days? ive read 2..
i forget because its been so many years but the pizza places ive worked at did dough in the morning then put it all in the walk in for at least overnight....

mozzarella is always too wet, going to try cut up cheestrings

>>14961282
that doesnt look particularly 'decent'

>>14963661
2 days seems to be the sweet spot for me. 1 day will work but 2 gets better results. A defenitive plus is that no kneading is required just mix the dough and in to the fridge it goes.

>>14963524
you own a bakery?

>>14963938

Yup.

>>14963764
so thats it?
mix dough leave in the bowl?
cover with saranwrap and put in the back of the fridge?
then what bring it out and up to temp then shape?
how do you think a dough with milk would do like this? i love what milk does to the pizza dough for home peetzurs

I don't know how to knead dough properly.

>>14963500
It's not expensive, it's just Little Caesars is like the closest thing to eating food in a post-scarcity society. It's fukkin' weird. You can walk into the place, not even interact with a human being, thanks to their "pizza portal," pay $5, and you're out.

>>14963500
What’s this 600 omelets thing?

>>14961282
Reasons

>>14965227
Reference to the sushi chef who forced his son to make over 600 omelets before approving of one. Kicker is that he probably didn't throw out the 600 omelets, likely they were served in the restaurant all along.
>>14963979
Yes you just work the dough until it comes together then leave with plastic wrap in fridge for couple of days. It really helps that you oiled our contained before storage. You do not let it come back to room temp when working with it, you utilize the fact that it's cold and stays together to work it into your desired shape. This method is the only way I've ever gotten Detroit style pizza crust that is light and crunchy at the same time, which is probably because the method works best for high hydration dough.

>>14965325
Figured it was something like that, thanks for clarifying. I’ll use it as motivation.

You can make decent pizza at home
A good tip is to place the pizza in a pan and cook it until the bottom is as crisp as I want
Then place it in your oven at the highest temperature it can handle on the highest rack.this way it tourns out pretty good

Since everyone is posting

>>14961744
I prefer some 'mi 'za to complement my 'cha but I can see how some people might prefer a 'go one

>>14961939
maybe you should stop roasting so many 'ews in your oven and make room for some 'zas

>>14962648
how can you be so obtuse?

>>14962844
you need to take a break from the kitchen.

>>14961288
Gyoza

>>14961442
no one asked you for that

>>14963129
I would rather look at goatsea than that pizza

>>14965231
if this came out of my oven I would uninstall

>>14966115
>>14966137
both tasted amazing. I do not care how my food looks, since I'm not a woman.

>>14962672
'go 'za. Zis is my finest dish. It is a beautiful and magical dish. All of zese beautiful textures and flavours, it is magical.

>>14961827
I don't know where you live, but here a lot of grocery stores sell ready made pizza dough.

>>14963524
you must hate those dough cucks from youtube.

>>14961282
Tips for a good homemade thin crust pizza in a normal 550F oven
Use a steel, not a stone (call a metal shop and get a 3/8" or 1/2" A2 scrap cut that fits your oven)
Low hydration dough, age it at least a day or two, three is ideal
Don't cook the sauce, barely heat enough to mix. Keep it simple. Little onion, garlic, salt, olive oil.
Low moisture moz
preheat the shit out of the oven and steel, at least an hour
cook on the hottest rack and start the broiler
as soon as the broiler kicks on put the pizza in
4 minutes cook time
you may need to keep the sauce and cheese cold until the very last second, I partial freeze my shredded cheese before I put it on. This slows the top cooking so the crust can get done all the way. Otherwise the cheese can start burning and the crust is still blonde.

>>14965494
nice countertop faggot

>>14963686
if you're cooking it right, it should crisp up to tell you when it's done. cheesestrings will be dry af

>>14961282
Crippling self-doubt and depression that makes it hard to do most things/lack of pizza stone

>>14961322
Impressive structural integrity

Just made this. Mu first homemade pizza. Crust was a little too crunchy but still tasty.

a pizza steel but a friend's giving me his next week

>>14966364
Thanks?

pan pizza is the 'za for me, please

>>14967079
seasonings in the crust is good

>>14967079
stop smoking. it's not good for you.

>>14967084
bottom crust. crispy

My second attempt at making Napoli pizza dough. It tastes the best after cold fermenting for a week but here is the first pizza I made with this batch

>>14961282
Because I'm too busy making the superior tarte flambee.

>>14967090
Not going to lie, that looks really greasy.

>>14967733
Amen brother. Fuck those fags eating bacteria shits (aka yeast) when superior flammekueche is ready in 30 minutes tops, from scratch to baked and tasy.

>>14961282
>'za
kys

>>14967079
dAMN THAT LOOKS GOOD. Recipe?

>>14961282
I'm tired and have leftovers to heat up

>>14967701
after one week your dough is over proofed

>>14961282
Lack of cooking skills, mom doesn't let me cook, the only thing I'm good at making are PBJ sandwiches.

>>14967701
good air in the crust. You are never going to get a real Neapolitan style with a home oven. turn on the broiler to brown the top better

>What's stopping you from making a decent homemade 'za?
Right now the fact that I work too damn much to bother making dough.

>>14963129
Looks like a maggot infested wound

>>14965494
wretched pep distribution

>>14969528
damn that's a good bake. How did you cook it?

>>14961282
Im too lazy for sourdough starter and dont want to use artificial yeast

>>14961827
place 280 grams of warm water into a pot and disolve a teaspoon of yeast in it

then put 400 grams of flour in the water and top with 10 grams of salt. mix it until all the flour is absorbed with a spoon and let it sit for 15 minutes.

go back to the bowl and punch it a few times and grab it or whatever you fancy then let it rest for some hours, take it out and form it into a ball and let it rest again for some time. cover it with a wet towel everytime you leave it

>>14965231
Dough is unfermented

>>14966764
Looks better than my first. Good job anon.

>>14971174
>10 grams of salt
Just say a fucking pinch retard

>>14972052
a pinch is like 1/10th of a gram

>>14969996
in the oven

>>14961322
That isn't a pizza that's a bread bowl filled with sauce. (I'd eat it though.)

>>14961442
Prolly the tastiest Za here.

price and time

why should i make my own 'za? that's the problem with a lot of meme foods, you have to take them in their historical context. back when american dagos were inventing this shit, it was because that's what they had on hand, some early 20th century coal oven that was perfect for piling a proper sloppa on top of some dough then tossed into the oven with their fuckhuge baking peel they used for everything, and dealt with by women all afternoon. it's 2020 and I'm not some wop with a diet of bread and soggy tomatoes and I don't have a pizza oven so I'll leave that to the experts who specialize in this shit. i buy food based on my macros and bulk/cutting schedule not what 1920s nonna finessed at the market that day to store in the pantry, or some amassed quantities of current year consoomer dogshit to be autistically prepped by some bougie cocksucker.

How'd I do bros?

>>14972923
oof. very bad. try again dumbass.

>>14972923
wtf is that? toast with tomato sauce and cheese? did you cook it in a toaster?

>>14972923
that looks pretty damn good to me. the crust looks perfectly charred and crunchy, as long as it's not too dense, I'd eat it.

>>14961282
I love pizza and I'm happy to see a thread on /ck/ about the discussion of pizza

Detroit-style pizza makes me mad. Like, you fuckers were this fucking close to come up with the best fucking pizza ever, but you had to go full retard and put the sauce on top of the toppings.
Why.

>>14973283
>Detroit-style pizza makes me mad. Like, you fuckers were this fucking close to come up with the best fucking pizza ever, but you had to go full retard and put the sauce on top of the toppings.
i always laugh at these because most of the so-called "cooks" on /ck/ work in places like this, then act as if theyre professionals who know anything about cooking.

>>14973283
That pizza would've been the shit in the 80s and 90s, but today everyone wants a light pizza that goes easy on the cheese and sauce.

>>14967079
more olives
>>14969317
dude do you even need a recipe? it's pizza. make pizza dough, pizza sauce, combine et voila

>>14973330
bro that fucking thing is leaking like the plumbing in flint and the cheese literally just fell off.

>>14973353
use a knife and a fork then so you won't get your teeny femboy fingers dirty, you big sissy. Now post boipussy.

>>14973353
That is what happens when you pick up a hot pizza that has a lot of cheese.

>>14961442
>canned san marzano tomatoes
this is ragusea's recipe isnt it?

>>14973420
nah, I learned everything I know from the book "flour water salt yeast" and some experimentation

>>14961442
i don't think parchment paper is meant to get that hot.

>>14972923
seems a puff pastry dough

>>14963122
ugh is that fucking cornbread?

>>14961298
you're a 'ckin 'ggot

>>14974701
pancake batter

>90% carbs
>9% sauce
>1% meat
even a meat lovers' pizza is mostly dough.

pasta isn't food, and pizza is just pasta you can eat without a fork. now if you made a doughless pizza you might have my attention

Did you faggots get 'za ironically from king of queens? I've been saying it for decades ironically because of that fucking stupid show.

>>14961282
No oven

>>14974827
Ive heard za here in Indiana growing up. Typically from goofy blue collar dads.

>>14961282
laziness, can you shill me a decent recipe that doesn't take much effort? it had been over a year since i was home with family and i miss mom's pizza so much. fuck the china flu.

>>14961440
Cramer, is soup a meal?

>>14975959
I followed the tasty video about pizza making. It's not the easiest but I did it and I'm a noob. It's not really hard just required patience.

>>14975984
>tasty
come on man

>>14975996
What? If it works it works...

Like everyone said, homemade za blows because it's made with home ovens. Always tastes like mom za. It's not even worth cooking at home, za is overrated.

>>14973730
yeah I thought so but I haven't had any issues so far, the pizza keeps it cool enough to keep it from burning, just trim the edges off if you are worried about it.

>>14961282
Dough takes too long to make.

>>14974806
I like the mini pizzas made with portobello mushrooms as a base.

Cheese is expensive.

>>14976832
kek do your own cheese

>>14973201
My first attempt at home made pizza. Sorry its not a perfect circle, and not enough cheese for you. The deeper orange and reds are leoparding of the cheese. Tasted good.

>>14961282
i just did as a matter of fact

>>14961282
My unbearable phobia of marinara

>>14977640
pepperoni and green olives

>>14977649
try a white pizza so

>>14977658
dis za has at least 3 weeks

>>14977681
?huh?

>>14977658
overnight dough came out good.

>>14977699
3 weeks old

>>14973420
are you retarded?

>What's stopping you
I have no hands, feet, or eyes.

>>14977955

>>14978118
nigga your pizza looks like older than my grandma.

>>14978162
ah, it was just the lighting that makes it look dark, it was fresh out of the oven

>>14977198
I would have ate it, anon

>>14972923
looks good to me, cheese is cooked properly but the dough could use some work

make a few every now and then

>>14961282
honestly, im scared. last time I went full retard and doubled the dough somehow and ended up eating an extremely doughy pizza.

because little ceazars has all I need.
piece a pizza!

>>14961282
It always sounded pretty tricky. I made it a few times with premade pizza dough but the last time I did it the dough didn't rise and it was basically inedible which put me off it.

>>14980247
What was your process in making the dough? I'm the the greatest at making pizzas but I've never made a dough that didn't rise.

>>14980298
It was premade, I don't know how they fucked it up. Can yeast die?

>>14980298
I'm not the greatest*
>>14980313
Ok, I misunderstood you, I thought the last time you made one you made your own dough and fucked it up. Yes, yeast can die

my pizza always ended up like a bread, send help

>>14962917
Little Caesars has sauce? Last time I got one of those shits there was almost no sauce.

>>14980624
add less sugar and higher heat (keep cheese and sauce cold so it doesn't over cook before the crust).
I've been making this and letting it rise in the fridge overnight, but it is a little sticky and hard to works with.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/7245/jays-signature-pizza-crust/

How'd I do?

How'd I do?

>>14980624
>chose this art to replicate and sketch as a 9 year old because I liked it
>didn't really understand what it was
was I doomed to fail from the beginning?

>>14961282
Thanks OP, now I'm hungry for za

>>14981113
thicc/10

>>14961282
nothing. if you wanted to have a homemade pizza thread just say so faggot

>>14961442
I use a similar method for my sauce, but I mince fresh garlic for it and add some basil leaves to steep.

>>14961282
>>14981113
delicious

>>14981324
garbage

Stop calling it ZA you complete spastic

>>14981387
this nigga dont even eat 'deenz

>>14981405
You on the left

>>14961282
some anon told me a while ago cast Iron pans are great to make selfmade pizza.
I was drunk, so I bought an cast Iron pan with cast Iron lid...
that was 8 months ago, and it's still unused...

so... someone has a Pizza recipe for cast Iron? or what else to do with it?

>>14981113
Outside is burnt but the center looks delicious, sauce has just the right amount of moisture left, cheese is perfectly melted

>>14972923
knead and ferment your dough longer, looks biscuity.

>>14981348
>garbage
thanks anon I'm working on it

>>14961282
I've never heard someone saying 'za in real life. How is it pronounced? Like pizza - pi = za?

>>14978001
i could punch that ragusea guy quite some times

It's a little more burnt than I would have preferred, but my first attempt at homemade pizza

>>14973258
>>14978264
>>14978616
Thanks brehs. I'll do better next time.

>>14980731
sugar is not needed in a dough

>>14981113
just waiting for my trumpbux to buy one of those fancy pizza ovens

>>14982686
I usually put maybe a quarter teaspoon in the initial warm water/yeast mix to wake it up and see it bloom. At least if I'm unsure about the yeast. A little bit doesn't hurt.

The top cooked great but the bottom was soft and doughy.

>>14982686
not everybody want to wait 24h for it to rise and a 1/2 tea spoon can change the way the crust browns

>>14981324
not fan of that style of pizza but at least you browned the cheese unlike most people that make that style

>>14983076
>a 1/2 tea spoon can change the way the crust browns

sorry anon but that's a myth. prolly you got it from some amateur youtuber.

>>14982728
Get a pizza stone, pre-heat it for at least an hour before putting the pizza on it.

>>14983175
then why sperg out when somebody puts sugar in their recipe

>>14983321
because this is 4chan

>>14961282
Can’t get the dough right cuz I’m a retard

>>14984314
you mean when you bake it or the dough itself?

you mongoloids need to learn that corn belongs to pizza and it's fucking delicious

>>14961282
Diabetes

>>14961282
I'm an autist and I make everything from scratch, including the cheese, so it takes all day

I make at least once a week

>>14984998
looks fuckin good
>2 whole pizzas
why so much

Rate my Neapolitan

>>14985164
it's really fluffy for Neopolitan, but it still looks awesome.

>>14984998
>long pizza

>>14985046
I generally just buy my dough a lot of the time and that's how much it makes, it's pretty thin. My gf eats some, and I have left overs. It's gone by lunch the next day.
>>14985197
Yeah, my steel is rectangular and I just roll it out in random shapes a lot of the time, whatever is the most even.

>>14985164
looks good maybe slightly undercooked dough hard to tell

>>14972052
Please go KYS and don't pollute a good cooking thread.

>>14984872
looks good

>>14984872
missing some pineapple. (non ironically)

>>14982621
Tried again

>>14987475
skrillex za.
what went wrong with those mushes ?

>>14961282
because i dont have the means to create enough heat at home to make a decent pizza and i am too broke to buy a new oven

>>14987527
Huh?

>>14987995
your shrooms seem so dried

>>14988041
Ah, probs just from being under the broiler. I got a little plastic package of baby bellas cause I've never had mushrooms before, they were pretty good

>>14988068
did you cooked them before ?

>>14988101
No, should I?

>>14961282

>>14961282
I’ve never made a homemade pizza that wasn’t from a packet. I recently got some yeast, any tips?

>>14988385
yes retard. stir fry it on olive oil, don't burn it.

>>14988458

>>14966202
>grocery stores sell ready made pizza dough.
I don't know how it is where you live, but I've tried the pre-made dough at the grocery store and that shit sucks too.

>>14961282
Lil' Kaiser's is just too cheap and easy. I COULD spend over an hour making and cooking my own for like $10 or I can drive a mile and get a slightly worse pizza for 6 bucks.

'ur 'om.

>>14961306
insulting the inventors of your """'za"""

how do i make good pizza dough bros?

>>14973283
Love the waitress girl. What a cutie...

>>14961322
Nice tomato pie

>>14961282
My body goals

>>14961282
nothing. I don't want to. fuck off

>>14992272
flour, water, yeast and salt

>>14961282
Nothin stops me

>>14993779
somebody jizzed on your pizza, and it that raw meat? how do you keep the meat raw while you cook it?

>>14993824
thats cream

and jamon iberico put after the oven

>>14961282
Your mom keeps wrangling deez nuts.

Severe depression

>>14961282
Because there's a fantastic pizzeria every ten feet in my town, all with very low competitive prices, with decades old pizza ovens I could never complete with.

Also I fucking hate working with yeasted dough.

pizza is just empty carbs. no nutrition and it will give you a gut and man tits

>>14994165
>>14994165
cheese is loaded with protein and fats

But I do

How'd I do this time?

>>14994617
A little undercarriage.

>>14994628
Internal.

>>14993824
cumsciutto za

>>14994605
gnocchi?

>>14994108
>I fucking hate working with yeasted dough
anon you are not going to make it

Whats the best store bought pizza sauce? I already have the pillsbury canned dough and mozzarella I just need a good tomato sauce I don't have to make.

American genes

>>14994653
>>14994628
>>14994617
recette mon gros lard

>>14992272
>using any of the three Roman factions other than the red Julii

Anon please