/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14944768
Well done steaks are usually only enjoyed by man-babies who's mother never learned how to cook. The chicken tendies and fries boys.

0/10 bait

dry and tastes like shit

>>14944773
>>14944792

>>14944768

>>14944768
>> Focuses on flavor of meat
Does the exact opposite

>>14944768
>flavour of rotting carcass
ok

>>14944768
Yes it kills a lot of the vitamins that exist in protein tissue. It also kills any enzymes that are in the fat and protein. The raw-er, the better. I eat rare when I cook and medium-rare if someone else is cooking.

>>14944768
>less chewy

Dubs get

>>14944768
Safer to eat - Can be debated but isn't something to worry about

Less chewy so easier to eat - Just plain false as a medium or rare steak will be more tender then a
well

Focuses on flavor of meat - Again just wrong but if that is your preference then that is fine but you
will get more meat taste so to speak if it's not well done

This just feels like weak bait but it's still worth mentioning that it is all about personal preference, personally I very much enjoy well done steaks even if I prefer mine around medium rare and I couldn't care less about bosses at corporate liked making fun of me for not getting the food rare due to my occupation at the time and yes I get that you are supposed to eat it rare but if I enjoy mine being cooked a bit longer then I couldn't care less about what someone else thinks and it doesn't matter who it is and neither should you.

>>14944773
>>14944790
>>14944792
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>>14944816
> Here's your piece of rotting cow flesh that we didn't even bother to cook through. That'll be $30. Enjoy!

Do carnists really?

>>14944768
>Less chewy so easier to eat
lmfao

might as well eat warm damp cardboard instead of a steak like that. at least it's cheaper

>>14944768
>Less chewy
I chew more on well-done then medium rare.

Raw meat technically has more nutrients, but cooking makes it easier to absorb more of what's available.

>Making normal people fight about how they eat their steak
The rare/well done meme is a vegan psyop

>>14944868
>here's your highly processed factory made misc petroleum based unsustainably grown industrial monocrop product totally is not meant to resemble the meat which you claim to hate. That will be $60 dollars. Enjoy!

Why do you have a derogatory term for normal people?

>>14944916
>pic
I really hope people don’t eat that crap

>>14944920
Oh people do and feel morally superior for doing so, just look at >>14944868

>>14944768
based retard

>>14944916
>>14944943
I don't eat any of that crap because the very idea of meat disgusts me. Beyond shit is made for carnists trying to go vegan. I'd much rather have a veggie paella or vegan tacos or a refreshing salad over fake animal flesh

>>14944943
We call that a shitposy

>>14944768

>>14944997
sneed!

>>14944976
>claims meat disgusts them
>wants tacos and paella
>claims fake meat is gross
Do you understand how retarded you are? It would be like me saying I hate eating plant corpses and fake plant corpse substitute and then eating shit like pic related but thats okay since it has animal products in it or something.

And if you think me using the term corpse is stupid, remember, this is how you sound to the rest of the world.
Ten bucks says you have been vegan for less than half a decade and you brag about every year you survive your shitty diet like a badge of honor

>>14944768
Tougher then jerky

>>14945116
Vegan paella and tacos don't have anything in them that's pretending to be meat, dumb carnist.

>>14944951
Vegans know food is a cultural war they can't win without making the statement 'you aren't missing out on anything by not eating meat' true.

>>14944976

>>14945164
Except the processed legumes and seed oils. Just trying to get that "meaty" texture.


Go cry into your vegan scramble.

>>14944976
Well I will give you that dude, good for you for not falling into the "fake meat" meme, stay with your vegetables if that's what you want to eat that's what veganism is intended for anyway not fake substitutes, you are not hurting anybody just don't be an ass to people who enjoy meat, live and let die

>>14944976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KRrsfn4n0w

>>14945215
Absolutely retarded carnist. Legumes and seed oils are fake meat to you? Jesus christ, all that animal flesh must be clogging up your smooth brain

>>14945215
https://veganhuggs.com/vegetable-paella-recipe/
What part of this is fake meat to you, retard? Why can't you understand that fake meat is for recovering carnists, not long-time vegans?

>>14945234
Have you ever even tried to make seed oils? Ever try to extract fat from a plant? It's a super intensive process that requires a ton of machinery and generally results in a lot of waste (for example, 5 lbs of sunflower seeds makes 1/4 cup of oil). Usually that waste can only go to animal feed. So congrats on supporting feedlots.

Legumes aren't fake meat but you use them as a meat substitute. Like, if you really think humans are meant to eat only plants why do vegans always crave foods that are warm, salty, and fatty? Tell me, what plant is warm, salty, and fatty? You vegans always say you hate animal products but you still eat shit like nutritional yeast to get a cheesy flavor, black salt, and don't get me started on the fake dairy.

For fucks sake, vegans are even trying to make fake wagyu with fucking watermellon.

>>14945275
What if I use lentils and meat? Because thats what I do, lentils in tacos are nice

>>14945258
>recovering carnist
you sound like one of those psychos who tries to convert fags into liking pussy. All you are doing is spreading aids.

>>14944773
only plebs can't appreciate well-done steak. they say well-done is inherently overcooked and can't even differentiate between cooking a steak to an internal temperature of 160F and 170F, they'd say it's the same. did you know well-done steaks are actually more flavorful? when protein is cooked to well-done it contracts and squeezes out excess water. this means the flavor of the steak is concentrated. people who like less than well-done are basically saying "wow this watery steak is great". most carnivores who eat raw meat don't even chew it, which is why less than well-done is actually chewier, but people act like this is better for some reason. when meat is well-done the muscle fibers shred apart more easily, this is better for us since we actually chew our food. something like a lion or wolf just tears off chunks of meat and swallow them whole, people don't do this, so less than well-done is actually chewier. steaks are overrated anyway, it's like a bare minimum of effort to actually prepare them. i'd rather have a good braised piece of fatty meat, that's way better, especially once the fat has started to melt and become buttery. notice how a lot of people just cut the fat off the steak and don't eat it because it's chewy? that's wasteful and you're missing out on something that could be really good. i dunno why steak has gotten to be such a premium product with so many strange rituals surrounding it. i guess people just fell for the marketing of it being a premium product and eating an undercooked chewy steak making them cultured and superior. i'd even rather just have a good burger over a steak. welcome to good burger home of the good burger, can i take your order? who loves orange soda? kel loves orange soda. is it true? i do i do i do-o. benis.

>>14945289
I mean you do you. Like I said, legumes aren't fake meat but vegans always try to use them as a meat replacement. Like, that's literally what the fake processed meat is made out of.

>>14945291
Based schizo rant

>>14945305
All right but if I take out the meat it would start to be a meat substitute? Or it would be lentils in a taco?

>>14945275
> if you really think humans are meant to eat only plants

Humans were also meant to be roaming the plains of fucking Africa but I don't see you living that way. The fact is that 99% of humans can easily live on a vegan diet but choose not to. Remember that pigs are smarter than dogs and carnists kill them by the tens of thousands. Unless you think killing dogs is cool, eating pig/mammal flesh should disgust you. Vegans cooking their food is not an argument against veganism.

There is no moral reasoning in where you can justify killing other creatures and consuming their flesh when you can survive perfectly fine without doing so.

>>14945315
>There is no moral reasoning
Why is always with morality with your people? What's with the Messiah complex dude?
Eating has nothing to do with morals it has to do with body functions and it seems that out body works fine with both diets, you can choose one but stop being an ass towards the other this part goes to >>14945275 too

>>14945341
> Why is always with morality with your people?

Because people with any moral compass aren't cool with killing animals unnecessarily? It's not just "bodily function" when you need to kill a living, breathing, thinking creature in the process just because you're used to it. What don't you get?

>>14945357
most of modern world commodities are unnecessarily why would you use them then? Nike is in moral but damn people use sneakers to sit down in their houses, why? You don't need and expensive phone that was made with the labour of underpaid people in sweat factories with components that where extracted in mines where people is paid in food if something, that's unnecessarily too, again what's with the Messiah complex?

>>14945391
The poorfags who make the shoes want a job, I want a pair of shoes ... how the hell is the exchange of value immoral?

If people work in mines for food they do it because they would otherwise starve ... do you want them to starve?

>>14945315
Have you even spent time with pigs? I'm not saying they aren't intelligent, but saying oh they are smarter than dogs isn't saying much. Dogs are bred to be obedient, not intelligent. Also I wouldn't care if a dog was killed for food if it was given a good life and a quick death. There even used to be breeds of dogs specifically for meat like the Hawaiian Poi dog until colonists came and wiped them out (like they do with everything)

Rodents are also incredibly intelligent. I have seen rodents solve puzzles and run mazes faster than dogs too. Doesn't stop you from killing them for crop monocultures. Grow your own food, stop relying on global imports that oppress indigenous populations and industrial monocrops.

>>14945341
>Eating has nothing to do with morals

Yes and no.
If you are going to kill and eat endangered species or eat animals that are boiled alive, or eat endangered pitcher plants knowing damn well they are endangered you have to be lacking in empathy and therefore morals.

This vegan faggot thinks I never tried abstaining from meat before, well I did, and it made me sick. So I decided if I'm going to eat meat I might as well do it right. I raise my own animals for food, give them a good life, and I also give them a quick and merciful death. It's not pleasurable for me to take the life of an animal, but I get a sense of relief that I know the animal had a good life, spent mostly outdoors with its homies on fresh clean grass under the sun.

Also humans are not specialist creatures roaming the plains of Africa. We are highly generalist and this contributes massively to our success as a species. Our "carnism" is why there are ancient groups of humans living in the Arctic. But I bet your racist ass wants Inuit's extinct because they have been living in symbiosis with seals for years.

Killing seals=bad
Mining for oil= good.
Fuck you.

>>14945416
Those "poorfags" are desperate for work because cooperation's have stolen their land so instead of feeding themselves they have to feed privilaged western vegans. Vegans steal SO MUCH god damn food from colonized countries, they have no idea why bananas are so cheap. Just keep drinking your cashew coconut milk and durian goji quinoa smoothies. Dickhead.

>>14944768
> Less chewy so easier to eat
Unless 20 hour pit barbeque is your definition of "well done" and brisket, pork butt, or any other cut with a lot of mass, fat, and connective tissue fits your definition of "steak" then a well done steak is going to be tougher than a medium rare steak.

>>14945439
>paying someone to grow, harvest, and prepare a product is "stealing"

>>14945439
>Those "poorfags" are desperate for work because cooperation's have stolen their land so instead of feeding themselves they have to feed privilaged western vegans.
No, the cooperations bought the land from the poorfags with the profits they got from real farming. The true farmers get orders of magnitude greater yield from the land, the poorfags want to buy a fridge and stop doing subsistence agriculture and being one failed harvest away from destitution.

Not that the poorfags can even subsist on the land any more, after they bred like rabbits and their remaining plots of land got too small. The poorfag nations making my shoes are hopelessly overpopulated.

>>14945467
SEAR THE MEAT OF PRODUCTION.

>>14945476
yeah those dirty natives totally needed us to save their asses.
It's not like land grabbing is a thing or anything.

>>14945467
Do you really know for a fact that these people were paid, let alone paid fairly?

You got 2 options here.
1: Grow your own food
2: Admit you are just as immoral as every other consumer who produces nothing.

pic made me hungry

>>14945315
You can survive on a vegan diet with enough supplements but you won't thrive. That's why people don't want to go vegan because they know that some amount of animal products in their diets are necessary to reach optimal health. You'll probably have mo luck getting people to switch to lab-grown meat instead of going and staying vegan.

>>14945416
Oh you are a brain dead with a selective "moral compass", how is exploiting people who dont have a choice for work less moral than killing a no thinking cow who live in a free range farm and had a good life? You got some weird standard I'm not going to lose time with you, so much for you moral superiority by not eating meat

>Less chewy so easier to eat
Wrong
>Focuses on flavor of meat
lol okay

only pretentious retards pretend they enjoy rare bloody steaks. well done with ketchup is god tier.

>>14944768
Here's something vegans, raw carnivores, vegetarians, and pescetarians can all agree on

omnivores have a scat fetish

>>14945291
You're unironically right. Well done steaks are still good.
There is a zone beyond well-done, let's call it "shoe leather". That zone is bad.

t. medrare preferrer

>>14945947
Idk how a whole roasted chicken on a bed of home grown turnips, beets, and potatoes looks like feces to you but....

>>14944768
im a med-rare guy but part of me is nostalgic for super well done meat like in OPs pic. My mom was an OK cook for somethings but always cooked meat this way.

>>14944768
If your dog likes the taste of newspaper, it's the perfect treat.

>>14944802
Guess Hank Hill's a soijak now.

>>14944768
actual cum tastes better than well done steaks

>>14945494
You're relentlessly retarded. I'm glad you're out there tilling fields.

>>14946121
Yes.

>>14946121
Yeah. Along with everything else I don't like.

>>14946135
I don't till, tilling is bad for the environment. But sure, I'm the retarded one.

>>14945315
out of africa theory is fake and gay

>less chewy

on what fucking planet?

>>14944768
>dry
>absorbs all the moisture from your mouth in one bite
>like leather shew or else eating a cardboard brick
>unseasoned and tasteless usually
Are there any actual arguments for it? You might as well be arguing we eat sticks.

>>14946508
The actual truth makes you uncomfortable because you belong on /pol/ and should return there.
>>14944768
Why don't you make a stew with it instead if you like stuff cooked that much? Beef stews are based.

>>14946618
Literally made stew last night. I just improv the shit with broth and a little wine or beer and whatever seasonings make sense at the time and every root vegetable I can get my hands on or have in the pantry. It never doesn't taste amazing.

>>14945969
If you salt them first a few hours before cooking it helps them stay moist too, like brining. But nobody really complains about a chicken breast which is cooked well done being shoe leather unless it gets overcooked, not sure why that same mindset doesn't get applied to steak.

>>14945315
Nobody cares you ticklish little bitch. We like meat, we eat meat. We don't have to justify it because we are in the right. Die fag.

>>14946953
funny thing is I'm gonna live longer than you dumb carnist :)

>>14947038
Not if you're like all the vegans I keep hearing about jumping in front of pig trucks.

The only reasonable argument against well done steaks is "they're not to my personal preference".
It's purely subjective; objectivity can take a hike.