/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14572262
I don't understand stupid bong currency

>>14572266
This

>>14572262
Is some random teenage nobody correct? No.

>>14572262
Chicken is cheaper, vegetables are cheaper, rice and potatoes are cheap. This bitch is dumb

>>14572262
>fat 10/10 British slag
Opinion discarded

just drain the fat off after it's rendered down

stupid cow

>>14572262
People are obese because they don't realize how much they're fucking eating.
Everything is so calorie dense these days if you're not paying attention you'll get fat.

>>14572262
esl here, can someone remind me what biscuits means in british english?
whatever it is, I strongly doubt it's just 20p. can you even buy anything for 20p in bongland?

Why IS fattier beef more expensive? They intentionally put in work to make it fatter with those heartless pens, so you'd think it'd be cheaper.

Fat + protein helps in losing weight. Sugar and carbs are what ruin a person's physique.

>>14572262
There are plenty of ways to eat healthy for not much money, but to directly refute the two points - the beef example falls for the "hur durr fat in food make u fat" meme, and apples are a meme

fat percentages do nothing and you don't need busicuits to live

>>14572288
I'm not a brit, but I think a biscuit is more like a cookie or cake in bongland.

>>14572266

>>14572290
its full of water and fat is lot cheaper that meat

>>14572262
people are obese because they're stupid and lazy

>>14572262
people are fat because food is cheap and and very few people work labor intensive jobs. Both things are historic anomalies, thats all we need to explain it

>>14572262
Every fat fuck I know doesnt stop eating until they are stuffed. They just dont know when to stop. Every meal for them is going 100%.
And they always have some bullshit excuse. Like bro you dont have a big gut because of some hormonal imbalance or whatever, its bc you eat 8 pieces of toast for breakfast .

>>14572262
What is she talking about? 5% ground beef is not 50% more expensive than 20%, also beef fat content isn't why people are fat, this whole thing is made up and wrong

>>14572322
Checked, animal fat does not make you fat. If you dont get fat in your diet you could die.

>>14572262
No.

People are fat because they spend less calories they consume.

>>14572321
This is because evolution. We used to burn way the fuck more calories with daily living, it was super hard to eat too much during the vast majority of evolutionary history so we evolved mechanisms to encourage eating, and didn't evolve mechanisms to discourage mild overeating both because it was so rare and because its effects are pretty minor until late in life when people then were mostly dead from other factors anyways
It was extremely rare for people to live long enough that being fat actually mattered for their health and evolutionary fitness. Even now it is mostly a cosmetic thing, being mildly overweight slightly increases your chance of dying as a middle aged person with adult children, so super minor effect on your evolutionary fitness

>>14572290
Less demand for the fattier stuff?

I'd say she's half-right, but junk food isnt priced on sociological-grounds. it has a higher shelf life & is less of a hassle to transport

>>14572262
>retards still thinking fat makes you fat
I eat whole fat everything and thighs instead of breast cause a lot of low fat shit tastes like ass and is even sometimes more expensive. I can probably princess carry most of these hog bitches and am the skinniest I've been ever been in my life

People are fat because they eat too much and exercise too little
All this garbage is about blaming other people for your own shortcomings

>>14572262
Well, no. Not really.
People who are fat, how much of their diet do you really think they make? Lots of fat people often have fast foods, consume sugar filled drinks and foods, and dont exercise. I spend bout 40 bucks every two weeks for my food (1 person). How much do you think theyre spending for their fast food and junk food? It's 100% cheaper to make your own food than to buy it. Fat people arent really making their own burgers with 20% fat - theyre buying it from mcdonalds! And that money racks up. They arent going to put in effort to learn how to cook, much less spend time to cook.

And if apples were still cheaper than biscuits, do you really think theyll still buy em? No, because processed foods with sugar taste better. They wwere probably raised with an unhealthy diet too so theyve continued this into adulthood

people are likely obese because nutrition education is so bad that they think they are overweight because they didn't buy lean ground beef

>>14572282
Clearly the government needs to regulate your food intake for you, because you are an infant that doesn't know about self control.

>>14572389
This is most humans. That's why governments step in to influence eating habits. Individuals receive no nutritional education growing up, medical support for eating disorders is limited, and people are limit e by cost and convenience.

>>14572266
Like most currencies, higher numbers indicate more expense. It is also base 100. If you're still having trouble, try not being american

>>14572288
cookies and yes, store brand biscuits are cheap as fuck.

>>14572365
while you're right to an extent, when there are so many fat fucks around, to the point where they're a significant percentage of the population, you have a systemic problem and you can come up with a systemic solution. it can be restricting access to food, it can be penalizing fat fucks, it can be outlawing types of foods/drinks or additives.
it's true that individual fat people are fat because of some personal failing, but it's also true that the system somehow is exploiting that failing. we didn't magically get a higher percentage of people with low willpower and self control these past few generations. people with low willpower and self control have always existed and yet we haven't had these obesity rates at any other point in history. some pacific islands have obesity rates of 90%. the problem isn't just with individuals

>>14572262
Um it costs nothing to not eat the biscuits.

>>14572384
this

>>14572415
BLASPHEMY

>>14572339
this.

>>14572340
>I am fat bc of evolution
There, another bullshit excuse.

>>14572439
everything anyone is is because of evolution. We are literally just sacks of self propagating chemicals

>>14572262
you can literally just drain out the fat after cooking 20% beef.

>>14572403
huh. post an example of one of these cookie packs that cost 20p. it has to be like three cookies AT MOST, right?

>>14572262
Real food is more expensive because it's made out of food. Junk food is cheap, because it's made of what's left over after the real food has been made.

None of you retards even noticed the subtle wordplay here.

She wrote Busicuits instead of Biscuits because capitalism and big businesses are the problem. Corporations don't care if you die, and cheap sugary food is more profitable than healthy food.

>>14572452
no, its because "real food" is highly perishable, making its transportation and stocking much more expensive

>>14572455
yeah, the problem is people aren't poor anymore thanks to capitalism, even the pooerst people in capitalist areas have more access to food than the upper classes did 100 years ago

>>14572450
It's actually zero cookies and like 20 biscuits

>>14572400
>Nutrition education
>Eat fewer calories —> gain less weight
Whoa...

does someone really go to the store, see that cookies are cheaper than apples, and buy the cookies instead?

no they just wanted fucking cookies

>>14572405
The problem is too many people expecting other people to fix their problems for them
Proper education is the solution, that and not enabling people to continue making bad decisions

>>14572498
seriously, no one is too poor for apples, this isn't a thing

>>14572339
based

people are obese because their mind thinks quantity > quality
go OMAD for 3-5 days a week and you'll be able to afford higher quality food while also improving your overall health

>>14572446
>We are literally just sacks of self propagating chemicals
If that is how you view yourself, that is how you are going to conduct yourself.

>>14572262
>muh healthy food is expensive meme
thy old shap' sboying food on old' lidl, 'cause itd be expensiv'

>>14572522
>that is how you are going to conduct yourself.
What does this even mean? No one is saying being a sack of chemicals is a bad thing, this doesn't lead to any specific behavior, its the nature of these chemicals that defines all of our behavior

>>14572262
No. People are obese because they're dumb and weak. It's that simple. The ones who lose weight are the ones who educate themselves and become disciplined.

>>14572517
no, its because no one works labor intensive jobs anymore, people can have both quality and quantity, the idea that quality food has fewer calories is utter nonsense

>>14572405
>people are too fucking stupid to educate themselves on how to properly eat
>corporations are exploiting this
>there are no governement programs/incentives for people to get fit, just shit regulations to make people believe they actually give a single shit
we can't just expect people to put in all the work, we all know the average person has a room iq
and the dieting industry is just such a meme

>>14572551
its because of what >>14572517 said ON TOP of what you described

>>14572288
Not a Brit but you wouldn't just buy a single biscuit at the store, you would buy them in packs of probably about a dozen for $2-3, which comes out to about 0.20 per piece.

If you don't know what the food itself is just Google English biscuit

>>14572551
This is a big part of it as well. There's an entire generation missing from labor in the states. I rarely meet anyone around my age. It's 10+ years older or younger. Not to sound like a retard but millennials really got jewed when it comes to college.

>>14572262
No, fat in your diet isn't making you fat.
Soda however is 150 calories per 12 oz.
Alcohol is 100 calories per 40% shot.
A beer can be up to 1/3rd of your caloric recommended intake if you're a short woman.

You can live on twinkies and still be a twink, it's all about how much of it you eat and how active you are.

I work on a hog farm, play beat saber, and exercise regularly, I can eat 3000+ calories a day, and I weight 150lbs at 5'9"

Calorie counting, and figuring out how many calories you use a day, should be a basic life skill they teach in school. I lost 100 lbs at one point, and it was easy once I learned how shit works and stopped making excuses.

>all these literal retards armchair physicianing
people are fat because they use food to feel good.

>>14572639
don't you? the only time i eat to just acquire calories is if i'm hiking

>>14572570
the fuck you talking about
this 300g pack is 28 pence

Just buy chicken thighs and your favorite vegetables. Maybe a modest portion of rice or noodles.

>>14572262
>95% meat mince is more expensive than 80% meat mince
>a single packet of like 5 biscuits is cheaper than an entire bag of apples
woah, crazy how you pay more for more product

>>14572703
jesus christ how
you can't get prices like that even in slavland. is this first world?

This dumb whore is too hypocrite and pretentious to blame herself for stuffing her face and being a disgusting landwhale. You can eat healthy for cheap. She deserve a good beating for being a fat puddle of shit.

>>14572733
The british household biscuit supply is as vital to sustaining life as running water

>>14572724
Apples also take more effort to grow than the shit in a biscuit

>>14572733
you can get shit buscuits for that price everywhere
t. south american

>>14572262
Not really. This fat cunt just needs to eat less in general. Apples could cost a cent and she still wouldn't touch them.

>>14572733
They are just shitty cookies that trailer trash eat

>>14572262
This is partially true. Healthier food is definitely more expensive and much less accessible in low-income areas. I think there’s also a major lack in education on how to eat healthily. My dad was a teacher in south side Chicago and he said there were kids who literally didn’t even know where milk came from because they just weren’t exposed to that information.
Another thing is time. It takes time, energy, knowledge, and money to cook food that’s not just bullshit. Without all these, it’s likely that you’re either “cooking“ shitty frozen food or just eating McDonald’s. But it’s absolutely a truth that the poor are fatter and eat less healthily in the US and other Anglo countries. Scarcity is not the issue. Money and a lack of education are.

>>14572262
>Tweeted from a $700 iphone

>>14572779
>Healthier food is definitely more expensive and much less accessible in low-income areas.
BULLSHIT

>>14572639
no, people are fat because food is objectively good feeling

>>14572818
Did I say crack didn't feel good? you dumb shit fucking retard nigger?

>>14572262
she's obese

>>14572439
it's fact. for hundreds of millions of years, fat, protein, and salt were by FAR the hardest to obtain nutrients, and required you to either eat specific plants for hours everyday, or to hunt down and kill another living creature. most animals crave that shit like crack, even most "herbivorous" animals like cows, deers, horses will happily eat meat. humans broke the system and can get these rare nutrients by the bucket, and our instincts haven't caught up yet.

I have literally no sympathy for fat bastards.
At best, AT BEST, your argument could be a ridiculous work-life balance resulting in having no time to cook, but considering how many dole-scroungers who do nothing all day are complete whales, there's no excuse.
There are cultures with far worse work-life balances than the British and a far lower rate of obesity. It is just a godawful food culture.

>>14572262
No a 6 pack of small apples is 0.79 pence in Tesco (large UK grocery chain).

>>14572293
This.

>>14572402
kek

>>14572262
>thinking dietary fat causes you to get fat
this is why you're fat. my diet is like 20% cheese and i'm a healthy weight. just eat less ya dumb pig.

>>14572262
This is half true. The other half is they make those biscuits tasty af

>>14572494
Yeah, you just have to read the calorie odometer on your wrist after every meal and make sure the figure isn't getting too high.

>>14572965
I wish I could get a bag of apples just as cheap here in America. The cheap stuff here goes bad in 1-2 days unless you freeze it. Everything else is just expensive. And then theres all the food we throw away which if it was cheaper waste wouldn't be a problem.

>>14573326
30-40% of food wasted. That's food service.

No, the reason people are fat in the west is because western food is processed as all fuck, containing a fuckton of sugar, making it very calorie dense. East asians are typically thin because their convience meals are super basic shit that consists of seafood, rice, noodles, and water.

>>14573392
you are right
but why does everyone say "this is why" as if it were a single thing that's making people fat
brainlet ass way of thinking

>>14572262
Actually, people are obese because they do far less exercise on average than they used to have to do.

>>14573405
newsflash: most people are brainlets. They'd rather blame some bogeyman for the problem than admit they over-eat or choose to eat junk food. It's basic human psychology: easier to blame something else than to admit one's own faults.

>>14572262
People are fat because they love processed food too much.

>>14572262
It is nice seeing covid tear through the fatties, so at least that's something to be thankful for rn

>>14572965
They don't go to that part of the store so how were they supposed to know?

>>14572262
If you're hungry you don't eat the entire bag of apples, you eat one fucking apple which probably costs less than 20p if you divide the price of the entire thing with the amount of apples. Cause a fat fuck would have to eat the entire bag of biscuits in order to feel something in their stomach, it's not like the biscuits last more than a day or maybe two.

>>14572266
Neck yourself retard

>>14572262
No. The actual prices are £1.70 for 20%, £2.80 for 5% and 70p for apples.

are fat people ever correct about why they are fat and their lives are in shambles? let's be honest here for like 30 goddamn seconds.

>>14572288
>buy anything for 20p in bongland?

Freddo chocolate. Used to be 10p once upon a time...

>>14572262
Yes, that's also why poor people are often fat. Fresh produce is actually quite expensive.

>>14572316
>and and very few people work labor intensive jobs

It's more than that - lifestule in general does not promote being active and people would scorn doing that little extra physical effort that in the long run would do them a whole lot of good. Driving everywhere when anything you could walk the distance within 15 minutes for instance. Watching sport on the TV instead of doing sport outside.

>>14572262

Ask this bitch if a fat people should be taxed more and see what she says.

>>14573944
>Yes, that's also why poor people are often fat. Fresh produce is actually quite expensive.

You've already been refuted in this thread. Go (run) away (and burn some calories) fatty.

>>14572262
This bitch pisses me off. I just bought a dozen onions for 60p. There's loads of fresh veg I can get for £1 or less. Meat isn't even that expensive if you get a whole chicken instead of just breasts or something. Such a fucking excuse - buy the pricier food, EAT LESS OF IT

>>14573984
>You've already been refuted in this thread.
Didn't read it lol, nor do I care. There are studies that literally prove it. Try google

>>14572339
They also snack past their window and eat shit food.

What the fuck is the implication here?
Does she think the fatty mince is cheaper for literally no reason? Does she think the production costs of a packet of biscuits is the same as a bag of apples?

>>14572262
Can't you just boil the calories out of junk food?

I lived off chicken breast and those bags of pre chopped frozen vegetables with porridge in the morning when I was a fatty and wanted to lose weight, cost less than £50 a month.

I've worked in grocery stores for 10+ years, and it's very easy to see why fat people are fucking fat. Most of the time half their baskets are candy, cookies, soda, potato chips and white bread. I could almost argue that I'd be able to judge how someone looks based on their food items, except there's always those sneaky early 20s guys that are railthin yet seem to subsist on a diet of frozen pizzas, beer and doritos.

>>14572585
damn is that what you look like? london?

Love how they always compare fresh fruit to shitty processed sweets as if it's some big time gotcha. No shit something that's grown, harvested, and has a perishable shelf life is more expensive than a bunch of chemicals and sugar that won't rot for 3 years.

>>14572274
>chicken
>cheap

>>14572779
How do 1st world countries have a food education problem when countries with pretty much no education don't? You don't think that the destruction of the nuclear family, women in the workforce (therefore not cooking or teaching their kids life skill), and decadent lifestyle that doesn't require a person to do more than type on a keyboard from their bed if they don't care to lift a finger are to blame? Almost everyone in the first world has a smart device and consistent free internet access (libraries and businesses and many parks and communities) plus whatever plan they are inevitably on/paying for. It's an endless encyclopedia of human knowledge where you can find information on budget healthy food and extreme budget gardening. All a person has to do is look it up. Rice, beans, potatoes, small amounts of inexpensive meat like chicken and cheap ground beef and pork, eggs, milk, and some kind of leafy green can sustain people incredibly well. Do these low income "uneducated" people who have terrible diets want to trade in cola, chips, shitty cookies, their smokes, and beer in exchange for a healthy and affordable lifestyle? Ask one of them. They know they are consuming unhealthy things. They will admit they don't even look at the produce and don't care to put 30-45 minutes into a basic meal. Most of the time they recall basic health and nutrition education from school (white poors, blacks probably never made it that far) and choose to ignore it. Tons of them went to a 2 or 4 year school, and plenty that I've met are health care workers including single mom nurses or nurses with deadbeat husbands. They know what their patients should be doing and still scarf down vending machine food and do all the wrong things. What is the cure for this????

>>14572779
>It takes time, energy, knowledge, and money to cook food that’s not just bullshit.
>time
Unless you live in walking distance, most meals can be cooked in the same time it would take to get fast food in a drive-through.

>energy
You can literally slop a bunch of shit into a crockpot, leave it, and then eat it. Cooking is as complex as you want it to be.

>knowledge
Cooking something edible isn't rocket science, especially in the internet age. Billions of recipes online and millions of videos to follow.

>money
I can make good meals far cheaper than any fast food place. Chicken, rice, and frozen veg can go a long, long way and can be bought practically anywhere in a first world country.

No because chicken breast is cheaper than ground beef.

>>14574219

This strikes me as a packaging error.

>>14573880
9/10 times no. A very small percentage do likely have glandular issues or are on medication that causes weight gain but neither makes people into 600lb shoggoths, that’s just food addiction and poor impulse control.

>>14574269
There is no cure, most humans are dumb and even the best of us are often irrational. Everyone may be walking around with an encyclopedia in their pocket but think back to grade school and all the dumb kids who couldn't figure out that the glossary in the back of every textbook has all the necessary info condensed and sorted alphabetically.

>>14572262
people are fat because they are greedy pigs with no willpower

>>14572262
People are fat because they make bad decisions.

Does she not realize you can just drain the fat off if your burger is too greasy?

>>14572262
Not really, the true enemies are soda and meals, not snacks.
>2400 kcal of frozen pizza is $3
Literally cannot be beaten.

>>14572288
In Bongland, biscuits are practically a right. ffs, they're vat exempt for a reason. And yes, an entire packet of bikkies can cost as little as 20p. In fact, you can get them for 19p at Iceland every now and again if you don't mind dealing with that particular shop's typical denizens.

>>14574331
>president's choice
Looks Canadian. While that is on the expensive side our chicken is about $13/kg when not on sale where I am. God only knows how much it costs in more northern areas, especially during covid. I believe it entirely.

>>14572290
idkf
When I was a kid, fattier meat was more valued and, therefore, more expensive. Now, everyone wants lean, bland, tasteless meat, the practical upshot of which is that my numnums are cheap af now.

>>14572296
>you don't need biscuits to live
Tell that to a bong. They're practically ⅝ biscuit, by weight.

>>14572322
In America, it certainly is. If not moreso.
80% lean (20% fat) beef is $1.99/lb on sale.
95% lean is /at least/ $2.99 on sale, and it's only that low very, very rarely. Usually, it's more like $3.79 or so.

>>14574909
Pre-covid prices from Costco I used to use as a benchmark for if sales were half decent in Ontario:
>boneless skin less chicken breast: 11.99/kg
>lean ground beef: 6.99/kg
>pork tenderloin: 8.80/kg
Prices have gone up by about 30% since then. Sales used to be found for maybe 40% off those prices if you shopped around.

Point being, no, meat is not that cheap everywhere. More regulation, refrigeration, shipping costs make it more expensive than other countries I'm guessing. Same goes for fresh produce. Honestly no food is that cheap here anymore. Frozen veggies, rice, and pork are probably your cheapest halfway balanced meal. Fucking potatoes aren't even that cheap.

>>14572505
Ok affluenza

>>14572733
Bikkies aren't taxed, so that's one reason. Another is that the ingredients that go into making them cost practically nothing. Flour. Bicarb. Oil. Sugar. That's pretty much it.

>>14573405

Because we are all making insignificant posts on a estonian trumpet crafting forum.

>>14574938
Could this not be because less fat = more meat = more cost to whoever is selling it?

>>14573326
Really? I can get apples for like 99c/lb year round. That's about 5 small apples, so nearly the same price as bong apples. As for them going off in 2 days, how?? These fuckers last me literally months. In fact, I had a hankering for apples yesterday and remembered that I have one sitting in the back of the crisper. It'd been there since March and it was still fine, although a few of the seeds had started to sprout.

>>14574971
That wasn't the point I was refuting, tho. The point was that 95% lean is at least 50% more expensive than 80% lean.

>>14572339
Yep. If what you're eating is "unhealthy", all you have to do is eat less.

Fat is a choice.

>>14575210
>brand name items.
>to expensive

people are obese because of butter

>>14575210
Can afford tattoos, piercings, and hair dye. Cant afford the gym. Cant afford walking...to poor to walk.

>>14575249
I think its moar than just butter friend.

>>14575252
Bongs are retarded.

>>14575276
Obsessed.

>>14575288

>>14572778
My grandma would have those for us sometimes and she lived in a house that was cutting edge back in the 1980s, at least.

>>14572304
Why would we know your goofy shit? Just explain how many loonies is in a bong so us first worlders can answer your stupid thread.

>>14575293
Fixated.

>>14575326
>being so retarded you don't realize you could have just googled a £ to $ converter

>>14572262
I wish she was. Poorfags should drop fucking dead. Nothing ruins my day more than having to deal with some 80IQ peasant monkey when I need a simple service done.

>>14572266
Yeah. Like, whats a pence? Aren't those fags on the euro? Do they still use quid? Wtf

>>14572262
>FAT BAD
She can fuck right off with her 2002 nutrition knowledge

>>14575554
Well too much fat is bad.

>>14572492
>this confuses the american

>>14572585
>I work on a hog farm, play beat saber, and exercise regularly, I can eat 3000+ calories a day, and I weight 150lbs at 5'9"

Also to add to this, most people ate 3000+ calories a day pre-WW2. They actually had to do hard labour, even shit like washing your clothes on a washboard was hard work.

>>14572262
Partially. Most issues don't have one simple answer, but a combination of adverse effects from various complex factors.

>>14572262
no

People are fat because they dont count calories on a monthly basis. They eat more than they burn and they dont do their squats.

People are stupid and dont have the ability for critical long term thinking and because of that they make poor decisions that affect their lives in negative ways

People dont want to confront their own inadequacy and need some external factor to blame for their own misery.

>>14574033
Studies, huh? Talk out your arse more, cunt, because since I actually go to the store and buy veg, I KNOW it's cheap as fuck.

>>14572262
Nobody is making the slag eat the entire pack of biscuits in one shot, but she is.

>>14572551
if you don't work a labor intensive job, there is absolutely ZERO need to eat more than once a day

>>14572262
>Fat in food is bad
>She said, elbow deep in her 4th bag of potato chips that day
Fucking idiots

>>14572262
don't know about meat, but don't you go to a butcher's for cheaper and better cuts? I was under the impression that supermarket packaged stuff was sub par.

>>14572262
Fat doesn’t make you fat but sugar does

>>14572339
that's a bit like saying that people are poor because they spend more than they make in that its 100% accurate but also not really useful on a large scale

>>14575955
How is "eat less" not useful?

>>14575967
because, at a population level, it hasn't worked and is unlikely to start working in the future

>>14575984
Virtually nothing works at a population level because people are individuals. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

>>14572262
I don't know. How do people care about anything anymore?

>>14575996
"just eat less" isn't a helpful sentiment to solve the obesity epidemic, while reducing the price of healthy food could be

>>14576009
It's still useful for the individual, and the fats who die of being fat deserve to die. Let the world correct itself.

>>14572282
This. People really don't understand how small most serving sizes are and how many kcals a person actually needs.

>>14572266
based

>>14574938
more fatty cuts of meat on a cow than lean, its not that hard to understand

>>14575984
The single voice of reason gets baited into responding to the other retard. What a world

>>14572266
It’s ten pee to a tit, fourteen tits to a pound, five and a half pounds to a forpence, there was a time a tit and a pee could get you a colonel’s creme bar but now the best you can have it a handful of froggos or a strawberry faggot in gravy. Shame.

>>14572262
Nonsense, that time I went broke I switched to offal and legumes
Not fucking cookies
And if anything I was feeling even better than before, now I still eat both regularly

>>14572262
People are obese for three reasons:
a) no self control
b) no portion control
c) no cooking skills

It's literally calories in calories out. You literally just have to eat less food. Genetics does play a role; people have different metabolisms and different frames, but genetics, even a bad thyroid can't defy the laws of physics. You're just overweight because you're eating more than you should be.

>>14575933
Sugar doesn't either. Caloric surplus does.

>>14576705
You don't know the laws of physics. A biological organism isn't a closed system.

Cut out all soda sugar beverages. Stick to water. And no fast food no matter what. Do more outdoor activities on the weekends. I just found a cure for diabetes.

>>14572262
>skip out on the processed calorie dense shit full with sugar and bad fats that only leave you hungrier an hour later
>don't get fat
its not that hard.

>>14574219
>Canadian shithole

No wonder this shit is expensive, I could buy this same pack of chicken boobies in Tokyo for fucking $5

>>14572293
Sugar is a carb, retard.

>>14576503
See >>14575010
Anon at >>14572322 claimed that leaner meat is not 50% more expensive than fattier meat. >>14574938 merely provides an example implying otherwise as a refutation to >>14572322's claim that leaner meat is not 50% more expensive than fattier meat.
There is nothing in >>14574938 even coming close to approaching a mere implication of a lack of understanding as to the economics of fatty v lean cuts never mind an outright statement of it.
Do try to strengthen your reading comprehension skills before the next time you want to comment on something so I won't have to condescend to you like this in the future, dear.

>>14572262
people are obese because of both of those things. tax sugar and it stops both

>>14572321
Some people have a hard time telling when they are full and one of the biggest culprits of that is the bread.

>>14572505
Cookies are way cheaper than 2 apples.

>>14572517
This is true. Ever since I went OMAD I can afford more actual produce, decent meats, and other items that I normally wouldn't have bought due to cost effective reasons. It makes the biggest difference in the world.

>>14572735
>You can eat healthy for cheap.

I assume that's because you live in a place where nobody wants to live?

>>14577741
>squares and rectangles
>squares are rectangles idiot
ok

>>14574269
>women in the workforce (therefore not cooking or teaching their kids life skill),

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? People also learned that shit in school, but in the US they keep cutting those kinds of classes.

>>14572262

I'm just surprised that the UK still has food prices like that. Here in commonwealth Canada food like apples and healthy options are actually cheaper than snacks and other non healthy options. Like the like a bag of apples will be around 2-3 cad and a bag of ruffles chips is 4-5 cad

>>14572724
There are typically 20-24 biscuits in a pack even for 20p or 30p but otherwise, you're right

>>14572266

As the number goes up the more paper numbers you need to provide for goods and services.

>>14573637
You have to pass that part of the shop to get to the rest of the shop in almost every Tesco. They're just trained to ignore it.

>>14572779
>Healthier food is definitely more expensive and much less accessible in low-income areas. I think there’s also a major lack in education on how to eat healthily.

This is true. I mean in reality if you are making federal minimum wage it's much cheaper to buy carbs and pre-packaged food than it to get produce and groceries. Some people don't really have the time or means to travel to those areas to get it either.

>>14574033
Studies done outside the third world shithole food desert that is the USA?

>>14575276
Addict.

>>14576973
Eat your caloric intake in sugar everyday for a month and come back to report the results.

>>14578021

This I don't get because I never heard of people only shopping at the nearest store and nowhere else. I live in a major metropolitan city and still need to drive 20 minutes to the nearest costco. Then I have like 20 different options for general groceries going home.

>>14572262
Wtf is pence. Holy shit you bongs are gay.

>>14578038

They like they're 18th century money. I'm surprised they haven't brought back the shilling.

>>14574948
>>14574909
>>14574331
canadians need a mortgage to pay for their steak
fact: most canadians can only afford to eat one meal per day
a can of beans or chilli is considered a luxury, and you can get arrested for photographing prices.
canada is collapsing

>>14578033
Not everyone lives in a big city or can afford to. Also, not everyone can afford to have a car. I do recognize that some people do make the conscious effort to buy crap even when they do have access to a place that sells food. That being said yes, food desserts are a thing OR if they are nearby they severely overcharge.

>>14578056

I didn't have a car most of my life and even somewhere in a congested city like London or Tokyo you can take public transit to hundreds of options. When I was little my mother had no car and we payed a taxi to get our groceries home. And as a poor ass student I could still walk to a few places to find fresh fruit and shit even in the coldest winters here in canada. And if you live in the country you have a car no exceptions.

>>14572266
>american currency: 100 cents = 1 dollar, max 100 dollars on a bill, all handled in powers of 1 or 5
>bong currency: 3 pences to a shilling, 7 shillings to a pound, 1.3 pounds to a euro
You also name your currency after our weight system, and use Stones as your weight system. Un fucking believable the gall you faggots have when you try to high-horse the metric system to us.

>>14572262

People are fat because it's easy to live a sedentary lifestyle. Unhealthy food is also far more delicious than healthy food generally speaking.

>>14578044
oi spare a copper guv

>>14578038
You don't even know the vice president? Fucking ignorant.

>>14578188
I wouldn't say more delicious- just more addictive. People underestimate how much effort companies put into tailoring their junk foods to be as addictive as possible.

>>14575568
Too much of anything is bad

>>14572262
You'll never find a photograph of someone who is both starving to death and also obese. Won't happen.
Are you obese because you can only afford high-calorie-density food, or are you obese because you don't understand calorie control and think having a rumbly tummy is a form of torture?

I miss when the media actively shamed fatties.

>>14578342
>Based Bundy poster

>>14578342
That show's only joke was that he was a shitty person, not that he was right about anything.

>>14572274
This, if you are a fellow bong then shop at Lidl or Aldi, you can get a shit load of cheap meat and veg to cook with. I only go Tesco for a few named brand items and I only go there because Asda is too far away

>>14578357
No, Al was right about everything. It was about the last remaining hard working family man being constantly put upon by the world that no longer appreciates him.

>>14572277
>fat
>10/10
Pick one, and only one.

>>14572805
No that's accurate. Low income neighborhoods often only have gas station or fast food in the general vicinity. Large grocery stores don't want to move there because negroes break and steal everything

>>14578925
So ultimately it's still the poor and negro's fault.

>>14572262
>fat makes you fat
"No!"
>apples are healthy
"No!"

>>14578168
I have a feeling you don't understand anything you're getting angry about.

>>14575326
the mixture of arrogance and ignorance is palpable

>>14572340
mildly overweight people live the longest actually, after them thin people and then overweight and fatter

>>14572279
have sex retard. youre draining off 20% of what you paid for

>>14572262
did people 3 generations ago live on nothing but lean meat and fresh apples?

>>14572262
Can get a bag of 8 apples for 79p at tesco, these people are just lazy, stupid and addicted to junkfood

Fats have no concept of how food or economics work.

>>14578072
>congested city like London or Tokyo you can take public transit to hundreds of options.

There's really only one city in the US that has decent and affordable public transportation. The rest of them don't. They all rely mainly on cars. Yet, some people still don't have cars. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true. The US is just a shithole where a lot of rich people happen live.

>>14578925
No, it's because the people there are poor so they end up not making that much money.

>>14575288
more like obessed

>>14574037
>falling for the window meme
You're a faggot
>signed: all of /fit/

>>14575568
the tuna and the veggies counteract the sugar and vinegar

>>14579354
small fats, or large fats?

>>14578003
You can get a 150g bag of crisps for £1 at most supermarkets

>>14579001
Arrogance is assuming your monopoly money somehow holds the same significance as the dollar.

Stopped reading once she started with the Eurotard speak lol

>>14572262
Apples and biscuits are the same, fucking useless carbs.

>>14572639
I use food to feel good since my back went out 5 years ago, still only 235 at 6'1, on a good day I am out of bed for 2 hours not counting trips to the bathroom and I can pack down food, the thing is that what I eat is stuff I make as much as I can, breakfast is 2 eggs and 2 pieces of toast or its a bowl of cornflakes (not frosted flakes), lunch is leftovers from the night before so a protein and some veggies, dinner could be anything, but its important to mention that I hardly ever had desert and I don't snack unless I didn't eat breakfast or lunch, its not hard to eat quite a bit of food and laze about all day, I don't drink much soda nor do I eat bags of chips or packs of cookies, almost everything sold now is "enhanced" with sugar or corn syrup which adds calories and carbs to things you might not even think about, and the things that you expect to have sugar in them have way to much, some shitty honeybuns I saw the other day had a single serving as half the roll so in total it was 800+ calories for something that I would need to eat 3 of to feel satisfied with.

>>14572714
green beans fried in a little bacon fat is heavenly tasting and not gonna break the bank.

>>14573326
apples keep for a long ass time if kept cool and dry.

>>14579977
1 lb of green beans + 2 large onions with a small pack of good quality bacon and some Old Bay makes a ~$10 pot of food that'll last my fat ass for days, especially if I throw it over a little rice. I'm surprised green beans and bacon isn't recommended more often in the poorfag food threads.

>>14579434
infinifats

>>14580025
personally I don't care for old bay and normally just use pepper since bacon tends to have enough salt for me, probably another thing that helps be is I don't care much for a lot of salt, I just use pepper for eggs in the morning, I was once told during a check up that I needed more salt in my diet, while salt doesn't make you fat a aversion to very salty things means I don't seek out potato chips and the like.

>>14579071
ok first off never respond to me like this again, secondly I would never drain the fat off I was merely suggesting to the LADY what she should do

>>14578168
british currency has been decimalised for about five decades now, you're a LARPing americunt

>>14572282
>People are obese because they don't realize how much they're fucking eating.

This.

People think losing weight is some kind of magic trick where you need to eat like a health guru. No you just need to fucking eat LESS. Skip meals if you have to, cut down on sugar and carbs massively. The whole "three meals a day" is a complete meme and the only reason people obsess over it is because that's what they've always known.

>>14573392
Western food has always been calorie dense and (since the early 1700s at least) containing a fuckload of sugar. Yet obesity didn't become a serious societal ill until the late 1970s.

>>14580075
I do use a fuckload of pepper in my bacon & beans but since I add so much onion I find that I usually have to add a little extra salt beyond what the bacon provides.

>>14578038
Mike pence did nothing wrong

>>14572262
It's true for sure. When I lived in England, I would spend the equivalent of $15 on groceries because there was so much ready-made crap and snacks available for £1-2. Sure, if you buy the right ingredients then you could make cheaper meals, but if you're a poorshit living from paycheck to paycheck then you're probably going to shy away from the upfront costs involved and decide that you'd rather down £1 bags of store-brand bacon rashers than live on variations of rice and beans.

>>14572402
This

>>14578925
everywhere you go you'll have access to a farmer's market where you can get all sorts of veg and meat dirt cheap
I live in a third world country, in a shitty city and I can more than afford a stupid amount of veg and meat because I know where to buy

These people go to walmart and see the neatly packaged overpriced veg meals and say "see, this is why I'm fat!"

>>14579970
fat fuck

>>14580667
>everywhere you go you'll have access to a farmer's market where you can get all sorts of veg and meat dirt cheap
Absolutely not true.
A large percentage of the American population don't even have access to a Walmart, there's plenty of urban 'food deserts' where you can go miles and see only corner stores and fast-food joints.
If you're poor and don't own a car then there's absolutely no chance you're gonna walk several miles to find fresh produce simply for the privilege of making more work for yourself

>>14580708
I can assure you most people have access to a fresh produce area in their city or at least access to cheap raw ingredients

and tell me how succhini, potatoes and onions are more expensive than burgers, pizza and hot dogs

>>14580667
>I live in [Not America]
>But let me just confidently assert what things are like in America despite never having visited it once and certainly never have visited a poor urban sprawl.
>If it's like this where I live then it must be like this everywhere
>>14580747
>I can assure you most people have access to a fresh produce area in their city
>in their city
Are you actually fucking retarded?
Do know how big American cities are? Do you actually think anyone is gonna travel several miles by foot from whatever urban hellscape they live in to go find a supermarket?
The problem isn't 'access', of course anyone can technically access raw produce if they're willing to go out of their way, the problem is convenient access, access that doesn't involve spending 10-20 times as much times to go shopping as it would take to walk down to the corner store, because regardless of how 'right' it would be, no one is gonna fucking do that.
>and tell me how succhini, potatoes and onions are more expensive than burgers, pizza and hot dogs
And you seriously underestimate just how cheap processed garbage and fastfood is in America, especially factoring in the upfront costs of home cooking it is simply far cheaper to live on crap than it is to cook for yourself, at least if you don't intend to live on nothing but rice and lentils.

>>14580788
>t. fat cope
I legitimately can't argue againt this now fuck off

>>14580699
I won't deny it

>>14572262
Imagine thinking that fat content in meat makes you fat.

>>14580457
I've never really understood this argument. This would only make sense if people were paid small amounts, frequently. At least back when I was poor enough to work two jobs, I got paid monthly. And after I wrote the checks for rent and utilities, I went straight to the supermarket and spent most of what I had left on bulk food. I imagine this goes doubly so for those that live in remote areas, and have to drive an hour to get to a supermarket.

So where does this idea come from that poor people can't afford bulk food if there's only one time of the month, maybe two, that they actually have money in their pockets?

No, I think its more likely that people stay poor because they load themselves up with credit card debt, buy things all month long they don't need, bottom out their account with the minimum payment each month, and then pretend like they can't spend $30 to buy more pasta than they could eat in a month.

>>14572262
has the idea of personal responsibility in literally any aspect of life completely died

>>14580899
whoa whoa whoa, are you saying that people who are poor might be poor because they are just shitty at dealing with money? thats just silly, I know someone who when she (a single mom with 3 kids whose fathers were deported back to some south american shithole) got her stimulus check she went and got phones and tablets for her kids instead of paying back the debt she already had.

>>14572262
>I don't understand economics: the post

>>14580935
Unless this person is a co-worker, you have some very poor taste in acquaintances

>>14580975
my mother knows her and my sisters babysat her kids (the younger 2 are alright but the oldest is a complete asshole with a mullet who only ate the top halves of my dinner rolls and almost broke my bread pans) she owes my sisters $100 still for months and they aren't watching them until they get paid so at least I don't need to deal with them anymore.

>>14572293
Why are ketofags in denial? Most fit and skinny people consume carbs and sugar on a regular basis retard. Fat fucks are fat because all you eat is fat and sugar and don't exercise. All you have to do is maintain your calories and be active

>>14581392
>Fat fucks are fat because all you eat is fat and sugar
Ah, yes, as we all know, healthy people eat nothing by whey protein isolate.

>>14572274
Chicken isn't cheaper than mince here, you literally can't buy battery farmed poultry in the UK from the fresh meat aisle. Frozen? Yes, but mince is still cheaper.

>>14572262
People are obese because of the amount of grain that is present in diets today.

>>14572277
lurk more newfaggot

>>14572262
5% fat mince is barely even usable, just stop eating too much you fat pigs

>>14574219
>Canadollars
>$6/lbs
Yeah, that's a might steep, but fuck off back to /pol/ with you attempts at misinformation, nigger.

>>14577994
>What does your mom making you wholesome food at home, showing you how, and what's good for you to eat have to do with anything?
Gee I wonder. I went to school in France for a year and there was no mention of nutrition and no health or nutrition classes at school. But people actually cook at home there and show their kids what's appropriate to eat and how to cook it. These kids parents, mostly their moms, taught them to discipline themselves around sweets, not to overly stuff themselves, to eat your greens, use high quality ingredients, not to buy prepackaged. They happen to have a strong food culture to back them up in a way that the US doesn't. The immigrants were the fattest ones even though they got the same education! Barely any French were fat. The total destruction of a traditional family tears apart healthy family traditions like balances, properly cooked meals in favor of prepackaged garbage. How do French women know how to cook if they aren't taught it in school? They learn at home!

>>14580152

based

>>14572262
>lazy, fat cunts find more excuses to not lose weight
Neck them all

>>14572389
He didn't even imply that in his post, you turbo autist.

>>14580667
>everywhere you go you'll have access to a farmer's market
LMAO

also these markets are much more expensive than regular stores in the US

>>14577954
Bread is quite literally possibly the worst food for you. It's just empty calories, but because the sorts of grains and whatnot have changed over the years, there was a point where most bread, which was actually made in a bakery and not some bleached shit pulled off some supermarket shelf, was actually healthy. Hence why it's still a staple part of our diets. We haven't adjusted culinarily despite a gross nutritional void.

I'm no health fag. I drink soda, beer, eat processed shit, eat at McDonald's regularly, smoke cigarettes, weed, and do MDMA, ketamine, and coke on the occasional basis.

You know what I don't do?

Eat bread.

i too find it annoying that lean mince is more expensive than ridiculously fatty mince, but she's wrong. people are obese because they eat large portions and they snack all day. also, high sugar intake.

>>14572274
minced beef is cheaper than chicken here

>>14572262
She’s not totally crazy. 85/15 ground beef regularly goes on sale for $4/pound here, but 93/7 basically never goes on sale from, like, $6 or $7/pound.

85/15 grass-fed ground beef also goes on sale regularly, but low-fat versions of that go on sale almost never.

The link between diary fat and body fat is weaker than this woman probably thinks, but it’s easier to hit my protein targets at the same calorie count if I’m eating leaner beef. Oh, and I like beef.

you're fat because you're eating too many carbs and/or too many calories

>>14582709
>It's just empty calories
granary bread is quite high in protein

>>14580899
in britain many people don't have enough free time to cook. there aren't any housewives anymore. you go to work, you come back to your ludicrously overpriced home, you eat a £2.50 microwave meal or some fast food, you drink an unhealthy amount, you hate your fucking life.

>>14582769
>there aren't any housewives anymore. you go to work, you come back to your ludicrously overpriced home, you eat a £2.50 microwave meal or some fast food, you drink an unhealthy amount, you hate your fucking life
Thank god for that neverending flood of immigrants driving down wages and driving up housing prices

>>14578168
That's why Australia is the best.
We use the American's currency system. But still use the metric for weight/size.
Temperature i could take or leave. Ours is easier to understand but americans have that wider range so its more accurate.
Our day, month, year format is superior.

>>14582864
waheyyyyyyyyy

calories don't exist, we aren't a combustion engine.
people get that believe because sugar absoption in the body is nearly perfect, so you can vaguely get a "what you eat is what you get", but it ignores the chemistry behind fat, protein, fibers and even minerals that just follow their own shit away from women magasines mystical shit.
also
>equating a pack of cookies with a BAG of apples
She's probably so fat she believe an applel can be eaten like an oreo

>>14582882
i personally use kelvin. 280-300 K is like 50-90 F

>>14572266
>Grug no understand number bigger than other number
American education, everyone.

>>14575568
I guess Americans really do

>>14582769
>don't have enough free time to cook
Do people in britain slave away 14 hours a day every day? Or are they simply too fucking lazy to not order some greasy take-out after work and stuff their faces while they watch TV?

>>14572262
>fat makes you fat
>advocating for sugar fruits
ah yes.

>>14572262
People are fat because food is easy and delicious. Try getting fat on bread alone

>>14578925
This is just a blatant lie. The real food deserts are heavily rural areas, not urban ones. Just because nog jr doesn't want to walk a mile doesn't mean he lacks access to a grocery. Even NPR of all places calls it a myth.

https://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132076786/the-root-the-myth-of-the-food-desert

>>14572262
>fat costs less than meat
>mass produced sugar and fat wafers packed with enough preservatives to last two apocalypses cost less than apples
wtf I hate capitalism now

>>14572262
Hmm. Maybe it's because cookies taste better than apples. Especially shitty modern apples that are grown for appearance instead of taste.

Junk food has been engineered and overprocessed to the point it's basically a drug now, while at the same time, produce has been getting blander and less appealing. It's amazing to me that society continues to say "just eat healthy" when every other store in America sells cheap, unlimited, crack. And it's impossible to completely avoid taking this crack, especially in childhood, making it hard to avoid addiction.

I can only guess it's sheer peer pressure that keeps people thin. You can eat delicious foods at every hour of the day if you want to, I don't blame people for doing that if there's not a huge pressure not to.

We have to acknowledge this to work on the obesity problem. How things have changed to the point that a lot of people just can't help themselves anymore. Otherwise it's like telling poor people to stop being poor, or the mentally ill to just stop being crazy. It's an ivory tower mindset that's not going to help.

>>14580667
>everywhere you go you'll have access to a farmer's market where you can get all sorts of veg and meat dirt cheap

wtf are you talking about? Farmer's Markets upcharge more than Whole Foods. Only ultra hipsters shop there, not poorfags.

>>14572262
She's half right, both things play a factor. People buy cheap and unhealthy food because they can't control themselves, but companies take advantage of this in the most predatory (practical) way possible. They'd sell people fucking bullets in their brains if it was legal, and say there was a demand for it.

>>14582769
>in britain many people don't have enough free time to cook.

The average Japanese workday is 12-hours with a 2-hour commute in both directions. The Japanese find time to cook and have one of the lowest obesity rates on the planet. What's your excuse?

>>14572402
based

>>14584922
the real high IQ play is to go to produce auctions, my mother gets stuff dirt cheap and we use some and sell the rest, now the issue is that then you will end up buying bulk vegetables but if you split it with another poor family around you then it can be profitable and the other people get cheap stuff also, however I live in Ohio and I assume most places lack access to things like this.

>>14584950
Japan is also one of the last 1st world cultures in the world to still operate on the housewife model of the family unit. Matsumoto works 16 hours a day, but has a homecooked meal waiting for him when he gets home at 11pm because he has a wife who stays home and tends to things.

most people are fat because they choose to be.

>but what about parents/environment
Sure, they still chose. They just might not know better.

>healthy foods are expensive
No, they aren't. Even on the dole you can easily afford veggies and good foods.

>but what about health problems/hypothyroid
Rare, this isn't the cause of an entire world's obesity epidemic.

>>14572262
They'd be able to afford the 5% fat mince and 2£ bag of apples if they stopped wasting money on shit like Netflix and didn't eat out every single day of the month.

>>14584997
>>healthy foods are expensive
>No, they aren't. Even on the dole you can easily afford veggies and good foods.

I worked at a grocery store checkout when I was a teenager. Every single solitary black person who paid for their groceries with an EBT card bought EXCLUSIVELY chips, soda, snack cakes and junk food. I never once had a black customer using their EBT card to buy rice and chicken and beans and pasta and produce.

And all those nogs were grotesquely obese. Poor to the point of needing gub'mint gibs, but fatter than any historical European aristocrat.

>>14584890
The only reason the cookies taste better is because their taste buds are trained towards it. If you stop eating junk food all the time, stuff like Oreos start to taste SO sweet its actually gross to you. People just suffer from so much depression and apathy that it sucks their willpower to train themselves towards normal food. I dont blame them for that part. But I CAN blame them for not realizing that they would feel better if they ate real food.

And I'm not saying this from some ivory tower, I live in a shithole town in the middle of nowhere in a tiny asbestos filled apartment building. My kitchen is only 4 ft across. And I still pick real food over crap when I go grocery shopping. I'm thin not because of "peer pressure" (I literally have no life why do you think I'm on 4chan) but because I practice good portion control.

>>14583661
Monkys eat sugar fruit all day and are more fit than you

As an American this is b.s.. I spend $100 a month on my food and it's exclusively fresh veg, cheap ass low sugar breads, eggo waffles (don't judge me it's nostalgia), eggs, milk, butter, flour, sugar, bran flakes, cheese, peanut butter, and chicken. I will admit this is after a bulk purchase of an assortment of herbs, spices, oil, vinegars, rice, beans, sambal and maypoy, which was $200, but that's more like an annual purchase, nowhere near monthly.

People are fat cuz they're lazy or have no self control.

Hell I make a 10x20 pan of thick ass brownies every week and eat half of them myself and I'm still 150 lbs on a good day, 6'3. I'm a fuckin stick.

Eat well, work out once a week, don't eat when you're bored and it's easy. I'm so sick off lards crying about how fat they are. Eat less nigga, acquire hobbies to distract from your hunger if you have to.

I will say though, I don't like advertisements targeting kids to try and instil poor eating habits. That's fucked up.

Anyway I'm gonna go be autistic somewhere else.

>>14585472
Oh yea, and stop fucking drinking soda on the daily. It's a sweet treat, not a regular thing. I personally dislike it a bit after having cut it out of my diet. Coffee is nice though in moderation as long as you aren't buying 10oz of $5 sugar juice from Starbucks.

>>14572266
higher number = more expensive

>>14585472
>I make a 10x20 pan of thick ass brownies every week and eat half of them myself and I'm still 150 lbs
Hmm, that's impressive
>6'3"
That'll do it. 5'3" women have to eat like 1200cal a day to lose weight, 1400 to maintain a healthy weight. Not saying that your point is untrue, just that most people can't do that and stay skinny.

>>14572274
she has a point when it comes to fruits though. i love me some good fruits but 250 gramms berrys and the like cost around 5-8€ where i live, i can buy food for an entire family from that money

>>14585715
Oh that's a good point yea. It would be easier for someone my length. Albeit the onus is still on the individual to know their bodies and do everything they can to kick those bad eating habits the media works so hard to instill in us mUrIcAns.

On the occasion I go out to eat I actually still fall into the trap of ordering the largest portion of whatever without thinking, it's simply the default option in a lot of people's minds and it can take some doing to unlearn that behaviour

>>14572262
>eating fat makes you fat

>>14585014
but when the idea to not let EBT/SNAP to be used to buy soda and chips is pushed forward it can't get through, this is one of the issues of companies having political power, but as for how to solve that outside of a tax for lobbying or gunning them down in the streets I don't know.

>>14585872
you can get away with ordering the larger portion meals if you aren't going out every other day and you don't eat like that at home.