/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14500395
Yellow unions.

>>14500395
Spanish onions.

Me mum was telling me not to eat them today, was wondering

White onions, the best.

>>14500395
Shallots

>>14500466
>White onions, the best.
wrong

>>14500395
how many fucking things does animal farming have to fuck up in my life before retards around me stop contributing to it?

>pandemic outbreaks
>bacterial food outbreaks
>ecological disaster
>animal torture

FUCK meat eaters

>>14500451
>>14500454
>>14500466
still not safe

>>14500395
VEGANBROS OH NONONONONO

>>14500395
Im a vidalia man myself.

>>14500500
Irrelevant. Onion varieties beyond red ones typically aren't eaten raw. Cooking kills salmonella.

>>14500496
If there's one thing in the world that unites even vegans and meat eaters it's that you're a faggot

>>14500530
Nope. He's 100% correct. Meat eaters and animal enslavers "pet owners" deserve to be in prison and our society must progress beyond torturing the earth to fulfill our sick desires. If you disagree, you're part of the problem.

>>14500496
Meat is important part of our diet. While vegetable sources can replace meat, it’s only with a lot of supplements, and you still need meat for children.
You really do have to know a lot about food to be able to sustain yourself completely with a vegan diet and not suffer any negatives because of it.
I don’t even care if you agree, this is objective truth, and don’t (You) me with your “I’m vegan for 3 years and I’m healthy on just carrots”. I’m talking long term vegan diet free of health issues due to lack of meat. You can’t possibly expect everyone to put in the effort to do that.
That said, the problem is the hygiene standards, not meat industry per se. Instead of demanding everyone around you completely change their lifestyle to accommodate you, I can tell you that a very simple “don’t stop eating meat, just try to reduce it, even if for just 1 meal a week” worked much better on me personally. I went from meat 3x a day down to 4x a week and the portions went down from 300g per meal to >200g a meal. That’s 10% of what I ate a year ago. Imagine if people just did that instead. It’s a MUCH more attainable goal.

>>14500549
Pet owners arent animal enslavers. I just asked my dog and he said you are a fucking faggot

>>14500550
I meant <200g, obviously

>>14500550
Nope. I gain all my B12 off of eating unwashed vegetables from my garden. Humans need to live closer to nature and avoid artificial industrialized diets or else they'll suffer chronic diseases and depression.

>>14500559
>I just asked my negro and he said he's happy to serve massah
Typical slaver. You deserve to be locked in prison.

>>14500563
Where do you get K2? Do you know you’re risk calcifying your veins because of K2 deficiency? Have you even ever heard of K2?
And this is the problem with vegans. You know nothing. Good luck, until you still have your health.

>>14500580
K2 is in nattō which I handferment myself for far cheaper and far more ecologically valid than your lifestyle.
Enjoy colon cancer, depression, atherosclerosis and future benzodiazepine addiction like your idols.

>>14500395
>>14500395
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/salmonella-outbreak-canada-red-onions-united-states-1.5671809

Of course it came from ZOGmerica

fuck mutts, fuck mutt people

>>14500585
God I fucking hate vegans. You’re obnoxious and disgusting. Even when someone tries to reach a hand out to meet him halfway you go out of your way to be extra obnoxious.
Go fuck yourself you unfuckable twig

>>14500598
Ran out of arguments already? It's okay, your meateater brain can't process the concept of a better world. You'll be gradually supplanted as the world governments and science creates better means to live on this Earth. The future will run on vertical fungi farming and soy. Your lifestyle is destined to go the way of the Romans. Enjoy it while it lasts.

>>14500598
>vegans are annoying because they're shoving my contribution to animal torture in my face
kek

>>14500611
Animal genociders and enslavers will say anything to justify their depraved lifestyles. In reality they're running on monkey-brain logic. MEAT GOOD, URG EAT MEAT. URG ATE PEOPLE TELL URG BETTER WAY POSSIBLE!
Destined to be supplanted like Neanderthal man.

>>14500598
Vegans are the most obnoxious faggots. With all of their morality arguments I bet they are all pro choice

>>14500585
You sound like a douchebag.

That said, do you have any problems with eating roadkill animals?

>>14500395
Based yellow chads keep winning

>>14500621
>Animal genociders and enslavers will say anything to justify their depraved lifestyles.
Not that guy, but do you actually believe this? Because I eat meat and don't care enough to justify anything, I just don't give a shit about it altogheter, how do you feel about that?

>>14500667
Automobiles should be banned except in cases of mass transportation and supply chain logistical systems. You don't need a truck or an SUV to transport fence posts across suburbia.

>>14500677
Not giving a shit is a conscious choice no matter how hard you spin it otherwise. Political apathy is just an active position in favor of the status quo. You cannot be apolitical as much as you delude yourself otherwise.

I have some red onions I bought a few weeks back.

Toss them? The outbreak appears small.

>>14500395
Just cook them retard

>>14500678
Yeah, whatever, that was not the question! Given that there ARE cars in the world and animals DO get roadkilled, is it ethical to eat the animal?

>>14500714
In an ideal world there would be no roadkill.

>>14500678
Jesus what a faggot. Are you pro choice?

>>14500687
>Not giving a shit is a conscious choice no matter how hard you spin it otherwise
Indeed, I counciously am choosing to not give a single flying fuck about the current state of the meat industry and the suffering it may be causing.

>>14500687
>Political apathy is just an active position in favor of the status quo. You cannot be apolitical as much as you delude yourself otherwise.
Wait, you are discussing politics? At /ck/?

Get back to /pol/ and rot in there alongside with all the other rambling maniacs!

That said, you derailed the thread long enough, lets get back to topic...

>>14500395
>what the fuck do I eat now bros.....?
Garlic.

>>14500720
>In an ideal world there would be no roadkill.
You keep dodging the question, got no answer for it or something?

We are NOT living in an ideal world, cars exist and animals get roadkilled all the time! So, if I happen to stumble upon the body of a recently dead animal that got run over by a truck, it is still warm and soft and edible, is it ethical for me to eat the animal?

>>14500751
Then you're just another edgy carnist obsessed with sticking it to an order that doesn't truly exist. You'll be superceded in time.

>>14500771
I keep asking. Are you pro choice?

>>14500771
>Then you're just another edgy carnist obsessed with sticking it to an order that doesn't truly exist.
The fuck are you even talking about? What order? Are you having some sort of mental breakdown or something?

I literally just feel apathy to the whole situation, how hard is it for you to get? I don't care if there had to be some animal suffering for me to get my steak and chicken wings, I will just eat it and move on.

Sure I would rather have the animals be bred like in the old days, in free range farms eating organic feed, but those days are simply not coming back, so we deal with it!

>>14500824
That just means you're both unimaginative and a coward. Unimaginative because you refuse to believe in the steps to a better world and a coward for refusing to take action for it.

All in all, a typical centrist.

>>14500500
Try shallots.

>>14500395
Not raw

fuck i had red onions in my lunch today, i'm fucked

>>14500864
fuck and i live in the same region as the supplier, triple fucked

>>14500846
>Unimaginative because you refuse to believe in the steps to a better world and a coward for refusing to take action for it.
Oh, quite the opposite, the problem is that I have a MUCH different view of what a "better world" is. You think that your way is the only rightful way, and I say you are a filthy extremist, no different from a jihadist muslim stoning a woman in a public square for the heinous crime of not wearing a burka!

You seem to believe that the act of raising animals for food is in itself wrong, disconsidering the possibility of it being done in an ethical, natural and humane way. You are the unimaginative one, not me!

>>14500395
>that feel when I just finished eating a hamburger with red onion on it minutes before seeing this thread
Who'd have thought I'd end up shitting myself to death in the middle of a respiratory virus outbreak.

>>14500549
I feed my dog rabbits that I shoot

>>14500893
>extremism = inherently bad
This is how we know you're an NPC.
>You seem to believe that the act of keeping people as slaves is in itself wrong, disconsidering (sp) the possibility of it being done in an ethical, natural and humane way

>>14501257
>I feed my dog rabbits that I shoot
sounds like a good way to introduce disease into your household, retard

>>14500847
>>14500469
>Shallots
good choices

>>14501276
Having a slave animal in your household inherently introduces disease, not even counting the disease of the mind that requires deluding one's self that enslaving another species for perceived lesser qualities is an ethical life decision.

>>14500771
>>14500846
Not even that guy - just came by to tell you to kill yourself you waste of air.

>waaaaah muh cute animuls

Fuck off back to redit.

>>14501293
Imagine the layers of self-delusion that need to form in order to consider this a valid rebuttal toward the idea that a better world is possible.

>>14500395
onions kill the bacteria, right?

>>14501276
>sounds like a good way to introduce disease into your household, retard
lol
You evidently don't know anything about animals, meat, and consumption of nutrients in general, do you?

>>14501302
Enjoy tularemia.

>>14500496
The majority of food poisoning and contaminated foods is linked to produce, not meat.

>>14501261
>You seem to believe that the act of keeping people as slaves is in itself wrong, disconsidering (sp) the possibility of it being done in an ethical, natural and humane way
Indeed, here is an example of an ethical and humane form of slavery: Use prisoners guilty of heinous crimes such as murder to perform forced labor.

Anyway, just for our collective amusement, do tell us about your political views, you are obviously an extremist but are you far right or far left?

>>14501310
Produce by and large fertilized with animal manure sourced from factory farms.

>>14501318
At least you can admit you're a slaver, which is by and large more than what most animal slavers tell themselves.

>>14501302
you evidently don't know anything about bacterial and viral contamination in general, do you?

>>14501310
>The majority of food poisoning and contaminated foods is linked to produce, not meat.

>imagine thinking produce itself causes food poisoning

o I am laffin

Vegans are white and whites are going extinct so who cares. Fuck whitoids

>>14501320
Actually most e-Coli and Salmonella outbreaks are linked to workers shitting in the fields, and the fact many vegetable are eaten raw.

Animals themselves aren't poison, like plants and any living thing they can carry bacteria or viruses.

This is why many vegans aren't taken seriously because they don't have a basic grasp of science.

>>14501346
Over the line, I thought there were tons of vegan cultures like indians.

>>14501351
<most e-Coli and Salmonella outbreaks are linked to workers shitting in the fields
Nope.
>Specific agricultural practices such as the use of animalmanure as opposed to chemical fertilizers may be a factor inintroducing these foodborne pathogens to fresh produce(Tauxeet al., 1997). Also, the use of contaminated irrigationwater is a potential vehicle for transferringSalmonellato thesurfaces of fresh fruits and vegetables (Steele and Odumeru,2004). Given the incidence ofSalmonellaas a foodbornepathogen in general and its distribution in a variety of envi-ronments,Salmonellaspecies causing foodborne disease are ofparticular concern as produce contaminants.
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/fpd.2008.0232
Incoming cope.

>>14501351
>workers shitting in the fields meme

yeah workers shitting in the field infects tens of thousands of produce, retard

>>14501356
There are. Racialists have holes in their brain from engaging in carnivore diets, not realizing that their beloved and despised white race ends up consuming far more meat than the rest of the world combined. 4

>>14501326
>At least you can admit you're a slaver, which is by and large more than what most animal slavers tell themselves.
Yeah, as I said earlier I don't give a shit, it is not that I don't see that the abuse is happening or that I would not prefer if the animals were not suffering, but I don't give a shit as long as I can continue to eat steak, bacon, chicken wings, eggs and dairy.

So, I believe that you are in the wrong here for trying to force your world view and political agenda on us. We are not here to discuss about fucking politics, we are here to talk about food, many of which you are by definition trying to prevent us from enjoying!

TL/DR Animals are tasty, you should eat some.

>>14501351
>they don't have a basic grasp of science.
>can't even write E. coli properly
is this what bait looks like?

>>14501370
Total retard. You have to be trolling. You think meat causes holes in the brain? Again are you pro choice?

>>14501375
You feel free to not give a shit, we'll be changing the political order and outclassing your way of life until it ceases to exist. You're just a small-time slave farmer from the antebellum South on the eve of the Civil War, destined to obscurity once the righteous take away your privilege to abuse and use the Earth and its creatures.

>>14500395
If getting information from the New York times then get it from somewhere else. In NY we call that shit paper all the news that fits they print. They're 100% bias and if you can't tell that within two sentances of any news "story" then you should take reading comprehension. They've been full of shit since the 1980s maybe earlier.

>>14501383
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27454859/
Dietary supply of meat or animal products less milk 5 years before AD prevalence had the highest correlations with AD prevalence in this study. Thus, reducing meat consumption could significantly reduce the risk of AD as well as of several cancers, diabetes mellitus type 2, stroke, and, likely, chronic kidney disease

>>14501383
>he forgot about mad cow disease and prions
laffing@u

>>14500395
Chomp down on Vidalias.

>>14501385
Humans have eaten meat since before they were humans. Get over yourself fag.

>>14501400
According to your 1 (one) study, fish and dairy prevents brain holes so vegans must have brains like swiss cheese.

>>14501400
Again faggot, are you pro choice?

>>14501413
>Humans have been enslaving other humans since before they were humans. Get over yourself fag.
You seem very resistant toward the idea of political activism that happens to go against your self-admitted unethical lifestyle habits. Not so apolitical now, are you? It's okay though, carnist hypocrisy is a universal.

Why don't we just eat vegans?

>>14501400
>Sunlight, Nutrition, and Health Research Center , San Francisco , California.
Okay, retard.

>>14501421
Arr you pro choice? Answer and explain

>>14501427
>It comes from place I don't like, Urg say it wrong
Holes in the brain.

>>14501423
Because humans evolved to eat meat from outside our own species, but eating meat from within our own species has conclusively proven dangers.

>>14501431
Answer!

>>14501385
>we'll be changing the political order and outclassing your way of life until it ceases to exist.
So, basically like a nazi? I guess it makes sense since Hitler was a vegetarian and a supporter of animal rights and conservation, guess you fit the profile.

So, tell me, how will the weak wristed, anemic and malnourished vegans going to prevent the robust, well fed and strong carnivores from eating meat? You think people are just going to let the government tell them what they can and can't eat? You can't be that ignorant to not realize from the war on drugs and alcohol prohition that prohibitionism is a retarded policy that will not only fail to prevent people from consuming the illegal goods but will also cause a very costly expense with law enforcement, greatly strengthen organised crime and ultimately only punish the consumers who have done nothing wrong. You are delusional if you think you can use the law and government to force people to stop consuming meat and breeding/killing animals!

>>14501456
>All political activism is equivalent to Nazism
The psychosis of centrism is fascinating.
>You think people are just going to let the government tell them what they can and can't eat?
They already do. Try getting raw milk cheese under 60 days aged from France. But it's irrelevant. Science and governance won't move toward prohibition for exactly the reasons you describe. It'll be gradual discouragement into the erosion of the meat-producing sector coupled with new technologies like lab grown meat. Balk now, the future is already here.

>>14501421
Blame the USA for everything and riot of reperations.

>>14501281
>Slave animal
Dogs probably benefit most comfortably from all the advancements of human civilization
>No longer need to scavenge for food
>Exercise and play are more prominent
>Can sleep as long as necessary, no more threat to security as they are in homes
>Advancements in animal science/healthcare lead to longer lives. We've also studied what works for their diets now.
>Dogs typically sleep in soft dog beds, or in beds of owners which helps a lot with joint health in aging.
>Access to purified water, removing risk of disease from bacteria and parasites that would be found in untreated natural water
>All while never needing to do the work humans had to to accomplish all this, they reap the fruits of our labor
>but they offer companionship.

>>14500395
>red inions linked to salmonella

Hmmmmm, killing New Yorkers, dare I say indian food is based?

>>14500483
I'm a shallots guy

Vegan douche still wont respond about abortion. Hypochrite fag that cant see past his 2 inch dick

>>14501475
Comfortably numb?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrOQC-zEog
Pink Floyd - Comfortably numb

>>14501486
Protip: he's an entp fucking with you

>>14501475
That guy is an idiot. My dog and most dogs are living the dream. Dogs also wouldnt exist without human intervention

>>14501504
Pro? So you got paid for that?
Paid by whom and why should I belive you? Just dump the "protip" bullshit please.

>>14501495
Will the mods ever ban the youtube spambot?

>>14501526
Where's the bot? Spot it.

>>14501526
I was wondering why my post was responded to with a Pink Floyd song.

>>14501532
It randomly posts links to youtube songs, usually completely unrelated to the discussion.

>>14501504
Entp?

>>14501550
Ent penis

Shine

>>14501539
A discussion about eating onions, well I told you that you can eat vidalias, what discussion is there you fucking hoity toit faggots?

>>14500395
>Salmonella can be spread when the hands, surfaces and tools of food handlers are not clean, and when people eat raw or undercooked food, health officials said. It can also be spread to people from animals.

>>14501389
What are your news sources?

>>14501603
Anything but the NY times. I learned that as a little kid, everything from the NY times is editorial kids like me were trained to see that within a sentance or two of any story and the NY times hits it everytime.

Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here Half Speed Mastered CBS Mastersound vinyl Side 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5GEnPjVxSA

>>14500395
oh thats why they asked me if i wanted white onion instead of red at A&W yesterday

>>14501603
ny times, pbs, npr, bbc, they've all gone 100% agenda, so the best thing is multiple sources, that's also the best way to see these "offical" sources are full of shit and just pushing shit agenda.

>>14501634
If you were in the SE/USA maybe they meant a Vidalia?

>>14501610
You sound like bullshit you think they are.

>>14501637
Yeah, not like the ones you aren't mentioning. lol

>>14501465
>All political activism is equivalent to Nazism
No, not all, but yours sure is.

>>14501465
>Science and governance won't move toward prohibition for exactly the reasons you describe. It'll be gradual discouragement into the erosion of the meat-producing sector coupled with new technologies like lab grown meat. Balk now, the future is already here.
Oh, I get who you are now, you are that FUCKING FAGGOT that has been shilling for lab grown meat...

Either make it a viable reality or fuck off into non-existance!

>>14500496
If you live above Kentucy you contribute more to ecological disaster than eating meat.

>>14501650
canada b.c

>>14500395
vegans BTFO

>>14501903
>he fell for the mainstream jew media horse shit

>>14501928
Why are vegans so anti-Semitic? Reminder that Adolf Hitler was the world's first vegan.

>>14501765
Defending bullshit are you? You wont go too far, I've been in publishing and have been trained to detect bullshit. ny times, pbs, npr, bbc are are agenda pushing bullshit artists.
The only ones that don't admit to that are ones that have some financial interest in it, directly or indirectly.

>>14501765
Don't be naive you little girl.

>>14500395
That's what you get for eating raw onions.

>>14501962
Like if garlic if with your girl, then nobody will notice and it will stave off vampires.

>>14501930
Not who you're replying to, but Hitler was actually an opportunistic vegetarian. He would never intentionally order a dish with meat, but he would also never turn away or refuse a dish with meat when served. Wasting food or denying hospitality were both against his ethics.

>>14500771
>>14500824
not him but I think he's referring to the fact that people keep villifying veganism as if it's some sort of super powerful ideology, when in reality <1% of the population is vegan.

>>14501986
The groups that make the most noise get complained about more. Basic internet whining.

>>14501983
>He would never intentionally order a dish with meat, but he would also never turn away or refuse a dish with meat when served. Wasting food or denying hospitality were both against his ethics.
That's exactly what the world's first vegan would do. Go chug your soy milk until you drown you Nazi sympathizing piece of shit.

>>14501930
I seen a lot more anons on 4chans who are anti-semitic, and I'm pretty sure the vast majority aren't vegan, even assuming we include the troll/bait vegans. Also Hitler was vegetarian. Inb4 semantics. And he wasn't even the first by a long shot. You're a lost cause anon.

>>14502040
>world's first vegan
That's not Pythagoras.

>>14502040
Huh?

>>14502040
>comment riddled with horse shit and misinformation
rent free

>>14500610
>>14500611
God vegans make me eat more meat just to think about their malnourished DYEL little bodies with weird green colorations screeching in anger

>>14502129
>hah! i'll eat three animals for every one you don't eat. take that fucking vegans

>>14502147
you sound a little salty

>>14502129
>their malnourished DYEL little bodies

>>14502129
lets play guess the vegan

>>14502080

>>14500395
this is why we vaccinate our onions in the UK

>>14501946
>>14501949
Post where you think are the "true" sources of information are. Go on, give us a laugh.