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14437371 No.14437371 [Reply] [Original]

Why do "authentic" pizzas always look shittier than a normal pie?

>> No.14437377

>>14437371
t. burgercuck

>> No.14437384

>>14437371
I'm gay btw, that's why i prefer (cream) pies.

>> No.14437605

>>14437371
that actually looks good lol

>> No.14437648

>>14437371
Becuase you are a fag that accepts everything in the shitter

>> No.14437654

Because you have shit taste.

>> No.14437664

Look, sure. But they taste infinitely better

>> No.14437757

All gay posts so far

>> No.14437823

>>14437371
Because you’re a fat fucking mutt

>> No.14437840
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>>14437371
The one in the op is indeed ugly

>> No.14438381

>>14437371
Pizzas aren't pies

>> No.14438390

>>14437371
Dagos are semi-retarded, ape-like creatures. They brought their peasant tomato flatbread to America, and like most imports to pre-21st century America, we took what we liked about it and refined and distilled it into the perfect food known as pizza.

Thanks to American hegemony, pizza was re-introduced into Italy, where the pathetic wops tried to larp as the originators of it. Thus was born the 'neapolitan pizza', a sad burnt disk of meager ingredients, adored by self-loathing white hipsters because of its 'authenticity' and 'freshness' as if a pizzeria like DiFara in Brooklyn isn't using the exact same caliber of ingredients to better result.

And yet it is the American form of pizza which persists most ubiquitously across the world. A timeless, perfect creation that will outlive the insincere fawning of psuedo-elitists.

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>>14438381
They are in America.

>> No.14438409

>>14437371
authentic pizzas use fresh mozzarella which has more moisture, so they can't use as much or else it'll be too wet. american pizza uses low moisture mozzarella which is better if you want to cover the entire thing with cheese, which might look better to you.

>> No.14438420

>>14437371
>>14437840
Those both look fantastic. OP b lyke: omg the crust is burnt!

>> No.14438516

>>14438409
This is the actual answer OP, which I know you weren't looking for. You wanted some fucking controversy in the thread

>> No.14438565

>>14437371
Authentic ones ARE normal. It's the disgusting yankshit versions that are awful.

>> No.14438735

>>14438390
It's not even bait at this point

>> No.14438751

>>14438409
This. Personally i'm not a fan of bufala(aka my standard of wet mozzarella), i prefer the more basic, drier one, but to each their own. On mine just a fucking truckload of mozzarella, capsicum peppers, pepperoni and green olives, the way God intended

>> No.14438847

>>14438390
shut the fuck up mutt

>> No.14438854

>>14438847
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

>> No.14438870

>>14437371
Italian food autism. They're not allowed to improve dishes because it "ruins the history" or some shit

>> No.14438875

>>14438565
lol at the idea that your tourist marketing bullshit is normal
Italian Americans invented the modern concept of pizza and popularized it around the world

>> No.14438881

>>14437371
What is wrong with spreading the toppings evenly?

>> No.14438884
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>>14438870
Exactly like this.

We like our history and traditions, you like more than two genders, globalism and multiculturalism.

To each their own.

>> No.14438890

>>14438884
D E L E T

>> No.14438901

>>14438847
Chill out, Giuseppe. If anyone here is a mutt, it's your Moorish rapebaby mudblood ass. Take your flat bread and shove it up your hairy Arab ass.

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>>14438901
Oh no the Arabs occupied one region (one region equals to the whole country and the whole 60 millions Italians according to Americans) for a short period of time so everyone is now a mutt.

Pic related is one of these Sicilian mutts.

COPE HARDER

>> No.14438976

Place the fucking cheese evenly you retarded pasta fucks

>> No.14438993

>>14438976
Tell this to the danish pizza man who makes these

https://www.sengeløsepizza.dk/levering.html

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>>14437371
>pie

>> No.14439004

>>14437377
t. seething shitskin

>> No.14439012

>>14438884
Don't even fucking care. We will take what you love and make it better because we are the world power and your are brown shit on the bottom of my shoe.

>> No.14439016

>>14438963
Italians are way the fuck darker than white Americans
And Italy is a mutt, manufactured country, northern Italians and southern italians are nothing alike genetically, northerners are germanic while southerners are greek/arab

>> No.14439024

>>14438963
lol, she doesn't look Italian at all, anyone can post outliers

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>>14439012
Top Kek the sheer cope here.

Look at how strong your superpower country is LMAO

>> No.14439037

>>14439025
>b-based daddy USA looked in my direction!!!!
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHS

>> No.14439043

>>14439016
Are you done with the propaganda Moshe or do you need some more time to vent?

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>>14438963
Great cherry picking, you stupid dago faggot.

>> No.14439127

>>14439107
Nice forum as source lmaooooo

This kike is desperate

https://youtu.be/sRZ7omgNvaI

https://youtu.be/d7bK6Jpjz5k

>> No.14439141

>>14438565
I google image searched “pizza“ and didn’t see a neopolitan abomination until page 3

>> No.14439148

>>14439043
i don't know what this means

>> No.14439150

>>14439141
Because google shows the results based on your location...
What’s with this board? Is everyone retarded here?

>> No.14439174

>>14439150
I’m in Naples, though

>> No.14439185

>>14439174
ever had a 'go style 'za?

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>>14439185
It’s funny, the pizza that isn’t even really pizza still looks more like a pizza than “””authentic””” shitalian slop

>> No.14439208

>>14439204
where's da gabbagool?

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>>14437371
Italians are super autistic about food sot he fact that Americans made an objectively superior version of one of their meals makes them endlessly seethe

>> No.14439329

>>14439127
>not fair!!!! y-you found your pic from a different place on the internet than mine!
>cherry picks a literal professional model as the average italian
Is this actually a passable debate tactic in the 3rd world? Yeesh

>> No.14439360

>>14439329
The video shows random Sicilians in their cities, how is this cherrypicking Schlomo?

>> No.14439391

>>14439227

This. Every Italian household has a pantry stocked to the ceiling with Spaghettios and pepperoni Hot Pockets, but they'll never acknowledge it to an outsider. It's their secret shame. Truth be told, most restaurants in Italy these days simply reheat frozen meals drop-shipped from the Olive Garden central office in New Jersey.

>> No.14439396

>>14439360
>these people appearing on a paid national program are totes random selections
Jesus christ 3rd world, are you even trying anymore?

>> No.14439404

>>14439391
>Truth be told, most restaurants in Italy these days simply reheat frozen meals drop-shipped from the Olive Garden central office in New Jersey.
Why wouldn't they, it's the exact same quality as coming fresh from an Italian kitchen.

>> No.14439421

>>14437371
>Why do "authentic" pizzas always look shittier than a normal pie?
Assuming you're implying that authentic pizzas look shitter than normal pizzas, it's probably because pizza has been changed from its original design which is the basics like pizza sauce, selection of meats and basic vegetables like onion, garlic, capsicum etc and some mozzarella cheese.
Growing up "authentic pizzas were very uncommon and most pizza shops really sold all the usual flavours like pepperoni, meat lovers or supreme.
Ever since hipster culture went mainstream there was an influx of these restaurants selling these pizzas and other smashed avocado and odd uncommon dishes that don't really satisfy the taste buds.

>> No.14439428

>>14437371
yo, where's the fucking basil?
there's like two fuckin leaves

>> No.14439431

>>14437371

The american pizza is better than that poor people napolean pizza trash.

>> No.14439442

>>14439421
>it's probably because pizza has been changed from its original design
there was no "original design". Italians literally couldn't afford good ingredients or meat when they started coming to america so they got there and started making good as fuck pizza with the sudden availability of top legit ingredients. SO now to be "authentic" to arbitrarily chosen 1900 Italy you have to barely put any cheese and no meat on because most Italians were poor as fuck, thats literally why so many left for America. The American version has always been the higher quality version

Also remember, tomatoes themselves didn't exist in Italy traditionally, they didn't come until America was discovered

>> No.14439535

>>14437371
because "normal" pizzas were literal poverty famine food.its basically using watered down tomato sauce, watered down cheese, and terrible stale bread

>> No.14439576

>>14439404

The really sad thing is when you see the aboriginal Italians attempting to mimic the authentic diaspora innovations. An Italian housewife once spent four days trying to make a pirated version of a Stuffed Crust pizza, before the entire thing blew up and burned down half her village. There's a reason why America has never licensed Stuffed Crust technology for export.

>> No.14439585

>>14438854
Dude its 2020

>> No.14440414

>>14439428
Mangia

>> No.14440424

>>14437371
You must be 18 to post on 4channel

>> No.14440453
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>there was no "original design". Italians literally couldn't afford good ingredients or meat when they started coming to america so they got there and started making good as fuck pizza with the sudden availability of top legit ingredients. SO now to be "authentic" to arbitrarily chosen 1900 Italy you have to barely put any cheese and no meat on because most Italians were poor as fuck, thats literally why so many left for America. The American version has always been the higher quality version

>Also remember, tomatoes themselves didn't exist in Italy traditionally, they didn't come until America was discovered

>> No.14440477

>>14439421
>Ever since hipster culture went mainstream there was an influx of these restaurants selling these pizzas and other smashed avocado and odd uncommon dishes that don't really satisfy the taste buds.
I fucking hate this so much. I live in LA and everything is either this hipster bullshit or just plain garbage. There was one decent place near me and they decided to switch to hipster bullshit pizza too.

>> No.14440508

>>14439535
explain how freshly baked dough is "stale bread"?

>> No.14440513

I like both American pizza and Italian pizza, why does /ck/ have to be so tribalistic about food. Both are good.

>> No.14440548

>>14440453
mad af

>> No.14440568

>>14439004
aka american

>> No.14440586

>>14440477
seethe more cletus. go to pizza hut if you prefer amerimutt pizza

>> No.14440655

>>14437371
Because they count on quality ingredients instead of piling shit up til you are not sure what you are eating.

>> No.14440730

>>14440513
/ck/ is a flag-less /pol/int/ hybrid masquerading as a food board with the occasional actual food related thread

>> No.14440738

>>14437371
Why would you even compare pizzas to pies?

>> No.14440791
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14440791

Here's your authentic Italiano pizza bro

>> No.14440813

>>14437371
They don't look shittier, also when people talk about authentic, they always post the traditional Neapolitan pizza, if you want to see pizza with various toppings you need to look for Roman pizza.

>> No.14441045

>>14437371
Because your ape mutt brain and corporate cucking cannot recognize anymore what good food should look like

If it doesn't look like a factory product made out of plastic you think it looks worse
Amerimutts couldn't afford good and taste food, so they started make patties and hotdog and calling it "cuisine"

>> No.14441212

>>14440813
Roman pizza is shitty, the crust is worse than what you get from a pizza flour mix. Its really really bad.

>> No.14441216

>>14437371
Taste>looks

>> No.14441230

>>14437371
different styles

>> No.14441249

>>14437371
white cheese on a pizza?

>> No.14441376

>>14440791
Looks fucking bomb tho

>> No.14441382

>>14441249
It’s salad cream.

https://youtu.be/a0v7yQqSES4

>> No.14441386

>>14441382
I had to look that one up. So "salad cream" is basically Miracle Whip, right? Do Britbongs really? That is so fucking disgusting, and I'm fairly pro mayo.

>> No.14441407

>>14437371

What are you talking about, looks really nice

>> No.14441409

>>14441407
You look nice faggot

>> No.14441439

>>14438875
what

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>>14439204

>> No.14441971

>>14437371
Maybe because you are a piece of shit?

>> No.14442053

>>14439012

>"we"

>> No.14442328

>>14437371
Speak for yourself

>> No.14442381

>>14440508
its not stale per say, but in "real" pizza they don't allow the bread to rise properly and beat the shit out of the dough it so its full of air bubbles.

>> No.14442439

>>14438401
No, in America Pizza is a vegetable

>> No.14443033

>>14442381
> they don't allow the bread to rise properly
You mean that 12h are nor enough to "rise" properly?

>> No.14443078

>>14443033
"Real" pizza dough is only given 30-45 mins to rise

>> No.14443110

>>14439043
Can you refute what he just said? Because that's really dning and if I were a white Italian I'd be pissed

>> No.14443123

>>14443078
Neapolitan pizza rise from a min of 8 h to a max of 24h.
In a average pizza place they make it rise 12h
I don't know where you get that

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14443133

>>14437371
pizza gate was real btw

>> No.14443165

>>14443123
Almost ALL of the authentic recipes I've seen have the dough rise for a short time. Usually 45 mins. The longest I could find was https://www.ciaoitalia.com/my_weblog/2010/06/making-and-eating-authentic-neapolitan-pizza

at 2 hours. Letting it rise for along time ISNT a traditional thing.

>> No.14443179

>>14443133
it's also a necessary part of continuing humanity's existence
stop poking a bees nest anon

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14443205

>>14443165
Are you retarded or what?
You linked some blog post and thought it is a traditional recipe?

Traditional neapolitan pizza is made in wood oven, nobody has it at home you dingus.

Pizzerias make it rise 8h on average, that's why the dough is almost empty on the side

It's even in the deposited recipe, I seriously can't understand why people talk about subject they don't know it

>> No.14443215

>>14437371
They are completely different food items

Might as well whine your chicken tenders aren't like mozzarella sticks

>> No.14443222

>>14443205
anon, you are the retard. you are taking seriously the dude who talked about
>don't allow the bread to rise properly and beat the shit out of the dough it so its full of air bubbles

>> No.14443237

>>14443205
the fuck ? I'm telling you traditional neapolitans DONT allow their bread to rise for 8 hours. Do better pizza research. They purposefully stop the rising process early. Fuck

>> No.14443241

>>14443179
>>14443133
take your meds schizo

>> No.14443256

>>14443237
>Do better pizza research
I don't need to, you mongoloid, i worked in several pizzerias in italy