/ck/ - Food & Cooking

shit thread, op
what are you, twelve years old?

>>14410092
>everything is organic

>>14411090
Tell me friend, what foods do you eat that don't come from living organisms, and are therefore inorganic?

>>14411238
>what foods do you eat that don't come from living organisms, and are therefore inorganic?
None, I don't eat stuff like BHT or BHA or etc., do you plebbit?

Holy shit you're retarded. Can you even read?

>>14410092
>I never understood this "organic" thing. ALL food is organic
We say organic out of convenience but the full phrase would be "organically grown" meaning that the soil is amended with organic materials rather than synthetic, and pest control is through natural substances and environmental symbiosis

>what's wrong with chemicals
>your body is MADE of chemicals

>>14411263
Then it should be called "natural" or "traditional" or a neologism should have been developed

Yeah, the crop duster spraying the adjacent non-organic field only flies on days with zero wind. You dipshits are being ripped off.

>>14411279
Unfortunately 'organic' is the term that advertisers have all agreed upon. Despite that word really meaning 'has carbon in its molecular structure', and the fact that there is no federal regulation on what can/cannot be labeled as 'organic' (at least in the US).

>>14411277

>>14411301
Codyslab told me that mercury is only dangerous when in an organic form and that there is no process in your body that can convert elemental mercury to an organic form.

>>14411296
>no federal regulation on what can and can’t be labeled
Wrong
https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/organic-standards

>>14411327
>Codyslab
That's some e-shit isn't it?

>>14411343
Yes and google shoad his video of him taking a swig of dental mercury.

>>14411367
>dentists use it so it's safe

>>14411369
show me a study that proves chronic exposure to trace levels of roundup pose a significant health risk

>>14410092
>I never understood this "organic" thing. ALL food is organic, it comes from ORGANISMS.
Yes, the term is used in an illogical and incorrect fashion.

ORGANIC, however comes from the fact that it had has or once had life in it, "carbon" in it, and not organisms. There is inorganic creatures and organic creatures, plants and animals both, and they both have carbon. LOL. I'm not going to draw a Venn Diagram or anything graphical about the overall taxonomy of the plant and animal kingdom, though. Your heart is in a great place, just false. Next, I think you should bitch about how people say and use CHEMICAL like an dirty word.

Try making a website so you can reeducate people with lots of hits about how vegans are mostly dumb. You need to turn this tide around.

>>14411379
You don't give over $10 billion in out-of-court settlements for something that's harmless. It's been all over the news lately, you really haven't noticed any of it?

While I think this thread is stupid in general, it's only rich people that have the luxury of this organic push. The rest of the world as a whole benefitted greatly from the green revolution. Sure, Monsanto's business practices are shitty, but if we went 100% organic, people would starve or be priced out of food.

>>14411292
>Yeah, the crop duster spraying the adjacent non-organic field only flies on days with zero wind. You dipshits are being ripped off.
I've literally seen bunches of bananas in the same exact fields in Costa Rica wearing a plastic bag to keep it "organic" tagged. Yea, the crop dusters and more likely spraying employees are hitting the tree with chemicals, throughout, just not right on the fruit itself. Only some of the stalk is covered, some isn't. In other words, it's a fallacy. It's not organically grown whatsoever.

>>14411410
They can use human waste as fertilizer and it still be labeled organic in some countries.

>>14411406
Because some nigger with a great team a lawyers convinced a California court that he got lymphoma from using roundup. Now anyone with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma that has /ever/ used roundup now has a potential case. They're minimizing damages. Also acute and chronic exposures are not the same thing.

>>14410092
>organic
is an ancient algonquin indian word that translates as "morons who shop at whole foods"

>>14411451
>t. bayer shill
Bayer once knowingly sold pills in Europe which were tainted with HIV or AIDS because they couldn't sell them in the states. The guy who came up with it was promoted. Stop trying to save face on a Vietnamese rice farmer bulletin board, it's pathetic.

>>14411379
>show me a study that proves chronic exposure to trace levels of roundup pose a significant health risk
Hrm, official peer-reviewed studies don't work so easily just like that. When it comes to cancer causality much of the time, really, there's so many other factors to be considered, that it becomes unclear. And, no liability lawsuits are proof, just a jury of persuaded people that made a stance.

The dangers of Roundup are not disputed. There is a link to the people who were exposed to it most. Your balls stopped working if you did lawns, or you dusted tomatoes in a field or handled dusted produce fields. But you could have been drinking well water that stil had DDT in it, anyone's guess. Or it was from your smoking or polluted air. Or, it's so many people and a cancer of a rare or spefically repeating type that what you see in people starts to match what you see in rats, and it's guessed there is a link to a carcinogistic affect.
Is that a defacto good study? Doesn't need to be proven, just suspected. I'm not even going to google a study. Understanding how this product works chemically is all I'd need to believe I don't want in my yard, around my pool. I had a lawnman use it around my avocado tree once (asshole) on some weeds...and my avocado tree stopped fruiting, and it's been 10 years now without any more than a couple fruit each season. Imagine the people who weed their pavers and then swim in their pool or walk around barefoot in their driveway.

>>14411337
>you can’t use pesticides until you say “fuck it” then you can
>no ionizing radiation
wow, they’ve set the bar so high it’s amazing anyone can make a profit on organic food at all!

>>14411419
You don't need any fertilizer for Bananas. The trees replenish the land. You hack them down and they regrow all the time. Life cycle of this crop is to send out a dwarf every so often and you chop out the spent one. I think the main concern with bananas is fungus, and other types of rotting blight. Moisture levels, things in the air. The Cavendish is apparently reaching end of line for hardiness, kind of like how citrus blight isn't going away. Time for some evolution and a new cultivar.

Anyway, human fertilizer is creepy, I agree. Too many pharmaceuticals in the average person's diet.

>>14411495
>wow, they’ve set the bar so high it’s amazing anyone can make a profit on organic food at all!
If more people exclusively bought organic, and shopped with their dollar, then the demand goes up. Or it stays where it is, if prices or quality suffers. Quality can suffer because of longer travel distances or longer turnarounds in the stores, however. Other than the "dirty dozen" list of produce I use in more minimal quantities, I think, I shop for quality over price myself. Others shop by price first. And,, yet others will shop for reasons of health concerns and/or environmental concerns. I think all the people I see like at a Whole Foods are pregnant, feeding kids, have an immune disorder or cancer, or just a lot of money. It's not that the produce is that swelll there, like ever.

>>14411474
The worst part is I don't think he's even getting paid. He's licking the balls of a multinational corporation because it's fun to him

>>14411090
only sand eater are unorganic

most organic food is also brought to market ripe, better varieties, grown for flavor, less processed, sometimes also ethically grown/harvested. so you get all aspects of your being pleased, not just palate or need for calories. and the "Organic" label, please, are you a fifth grader? thats so not interesting. yess all food aside from salt is made up of carbon compounds. its a different meaning of the word organic. just like pussy can mean a cat and you

>>14410092
I believe the idea is that artificial flavors and chemicals made by scientists using sources that are not considered food are considered inorganic.

Vanilla is the classic example. Vanilla beans can only be obtained from hand-pollinated flowering orchids in a handful of tropical areas. Natural vanilla extract is made by steeping vanilla beans in alcohol.
Artificial vanilla extract is made from wood pulp.
Alternatively, organic (yet fake) vanilla extract can be made from the anal secretions of a beaver.

I'm not sure what the difference is when it comes to fresh tomatoes. But for tinned tomatoes it means they haven't added additional citric acid (usually at all, not even by isolating citric acid from other tomatoes). This means you can reliably omit the step of adding compensatory sugar if the extra acidity usually bothers you.

In orange juice they add citric acid and artificial orange flavoring because the pasteurization and long term storage before bottling destroy its flavor. That and the dehydration / reconstitution process, though I suspect that may be more about companies putting more water back in then they ever took out, thereby lying about the orange juice content.

>>14411500
Are banana trees not grafted like apples?

>>14411327
Retard

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