/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I think you’re just pissed that the state I live in is larger than your entire country, you envious little hobbit.

>>14378744
Americans chlorinate chicken because they’re farmed at subpar standards and require chlorine to be edible; chicken are entraped in tiny cages, stacked one on top of each other, shitting down on each other, etc.
This is is illegal in Europe. If US were allowed to sell their shit (literally) meat in EU, we wouldn’t be able to compete with them, simply because our meat industry is held at higher, and thus more expensive, standards.
Tl;dr: american shit quality food for the masses of the goy slaves are not good enough for the european master race.

>>14378744
It is a big scandal whipped out of nothing by the remainer press. Loads of things we eat here in the UK are chlorine washed, for example most salads. It sounds much worse than it is.

>>14378758
Yeah your state is bigger than our country with just your homeless camps, ghettos and inhabitable desert alone, what a pity.

>>14378795
Chlorine-washed lettuce and remainer press? You're delusional m8

>>14378765
I doubt that too, there's no evidence that chickens in Europe are treated worse in the USA, both are industrially farmed and arguably inhumane.

>>14378851
Wrong state, Nigel. No deserts here, just wilderness and wide open spaces. Enjoy your row home and 10 sq ft yard.

>>14378744
>What's the deal with chlorinated chicken from the USA? Is it really that bad
anyone who lives in an urban area drinks chlorinated water.
Oh, the horror

>>14378744
Yanks chlorinate their chicken in order to wash all of the chicken shit and hormones off of the skin. They still get sick from it.

>>14378744
Bongs in Islamabadshire don’t put any additives in their city water, no chlorine or fluoride, the missing fluoride is quite obvious.

There's a well grounded anxiety with uk farmers about having to lower their standards to compete in post-EU markets.
Most of them voted brexit, so Fuck them.
I find it hilarious

>>14378744
The majority of middle America exists to simply cram sugar and fat into their face hole and simply count the days until they transition into diapers and mobility scooters. Thankfully COVID will take care of the fatties, it's the one thing I agree with Trump on.

>>14378744

We should have seen this coming when the EU banned activated almonds.

>>14378744
Felt the need to say "ordered two of everything" because Amerifat. Probably ordered a standard meal but because you mentioned merica gotta make it seem super fat. You're just memeing, ask your question and move on faggot.

>>14378930
>wash hormones off the skin
lolwut

>>14379000
they want us to eat dead food
they give us 90% food 10% poison, sometimes much more poison

>>14378795
The issue is ecoli and salmonella contamination because the meat is so fucked it needs a chlorine bath, not the cholrine bath itself. There are hundreds of ecoli cases in America every week.

When that happens in Europe, they close the slaughterhouse down. That's the difference.

>>14378851
European Chicken farms don't farm the same way as in America.

European chickens should be chlorinated too in order to reduce disease.
The ban on American chickens is mainly because all Americans do is chlorinated them.
But the whole issue got blown out of proportion and the public is completely blind to the actual concept and thinks every trade deal is trying to undermine food safety.

>>14378758
Every other country thinks yours is a laughing stock
>inb4 cope

>>14379277
I don’t mind some judgment from a gap-toothed bong. I too busy living in one of the most beautiful places in the world, hiking, camping, wildlife, fishing, it’s all here. England is just too cramped, people all smashed together. Picrel.

>>14378744
30 year old American here. I had never known that US chicken was chlorinated before reading about this Brexit trade deal stuff on /ck/ yesterday. I've certainly never seen any chicken that was openly advertised as such.

>>14379350
Goy slaves are bred to serve their jewish overlords, not to know.

>>14378765
only reason europe doesn't do this is because they have all of these bullshit old world families clutching to their old methods and ensuring that european hamburgers all come from the hamburg region and other nonsense bullshit. in the US we have modern food standards, we wash our chicken and we wash our eggs.

>>14379495
>we wash our eggs.
Is that true?

>>14379495
and you mistreat the poor eggs too

>>14379501
the US doesn't permit vaccination use nearly as much as the rest of the world to avoid breeding resistant strains. if you wash the eggs you don't have to worry about salmonella, you just have to refrigerate them

>>14379495
Yeah, this is bait

>>14379277
and 99% of americans don't give a single remote fuck about whatever shithole you live in

>>14379524
Wouldn't it make more sense to just wash them before using them?

>>14379617
they wash the eggs with chlorinated water at the chicken plants to remove any bacteria and it removes the chicken membrane or whatever making them exposed to air so they need to be refrigerated. it's also just safer to refrigerate them anyways, because they can still grow whatever even if they've been vaccinated for salmonella.

>>14378744

Doing shit like this means poor people can afford to eat meat. I can buy 10lbs of chicken thighs for $3 thanks to factory farming.

Not everyone is wealthy enough to give a shit about chickens crammed into cages and meat dipped in disinfectant that leaves no off flavor.

I grew up raising a dozen chickens and always washed my eggs. Chickens are legit dirty as fuck and shit everywhere. We even had a big pen for them and everything. The worse was having to clean their pen on a weekly basis the fucking smell my god.

>>14378918
The problem is less the chlorine and more the poor quality it's covering for.
I mean, do you want to eat off a plate that someone just shit on just because they assure you it was rinsed with chlorine afterwards?

>>14378744
do brits really do this?

>>14379275
But don't they have better food safety than America generally?

>>14379350
Lol duh they don't advertise it. They also don't advertise that they've lobbied to change rules so that inspectors "inspect" more carcasses per minute than is possible to actually inspect.

>>14379495
>we wash our eggs
That's why we have to refrigerate them. Normally you can keep them at room temperature and they last longer than they do for us but our production conditions are so unsanitary that we HAVE to chemically clean the eggs which removes a natural protective coating and makes them more perishable.

>>14380972
we would have to vaccinate all of the chickens if we did not wash them. that is the point

>>14378765
>Euros need their meat to be raised in a 5 star resort or it makes their tummies hurt

"Master race" indeed

>>14379617
No, because if there's salmonella on the surface of the eggs while they're at the store, in your fridge, and being handled by you then it's just giving the bacteria tons of opportunities to spread to other surfaces and food items. Washing the eggs at the factory before distribution nips the whole thing in the bud.

>>14378744
It's pathetic nationalist posturing from jumped up shopkeepers

>>14380982
>>14380994
Imagine taking pride in eating meat grown in literal squalor. Then again Americans take pride in their retard military, the worlds number 1 polluter and cause of disgrace, so I'd expect nothing less. Truly the most cowed and obedient little piggies on the planet; whenever they snap, they can't even do it right and shoot one of the billionaires or corrupt politicians that actively worsen their lives, they just shoot a bunch of their fellow poors instead and top themselves.

>>14378744
Far be it from me to defend American chicken practices, but the tapwater in London reeks of chlorine so I don't think they belong up on that high horse.

>>14378765
That's pretty inaccurate. No one is stacking chickens in cages. We do keep them in a barn with less that a cubic foot of space per chicken, and no way to clean their waste. This results in pock marks (acid burns) on their feet from the uric acid in their feces. That's what the chlorination is mostly for.

Factory farming is horrible, but it's not like your own supermarkets aren't stocked with similar affair.

>>14379275
>Reduce disease
Americans Chlorinate their chickens because they don't vaccinate them or keep them properly.
That's why they bleach their eggs white and have to store them in the fridge.

The real reason for this ban is because chlorinating the meat doesn't actually kill most pathogens, instead brings false results in testing.
It's a pathetic attempt to fix the problem they make by using battery farms and not bothering to vaccinate the chickens.

>>14380943
american chicken is the best in the world. if you don't want the best, cheapest chicken, it's your loss.

>>14382258
"Does chlorine washing work?
Research from Southampton University found that disease-causing bacteria like listeria and salmonella ‘remain active’ after chlorine washing. Chlorine washing just makes it impossible to detect the bacteria in the lab, giving the false impression that the bacteria have been killed when they haven’t."

yurocancer needs a range ban. they're so fucking annoying

>>14382349
How does that work? They can't detect the bacteria but they somehow still know they're there and active?
I think this is another fine case of the actual facts being dumbed down for the layman until they no longer make sense.

>>14382254
>chlorinating the meat doesn't actually kill most pathogens, instead brings false results in testing
This is a completely baseless claim. Define "false results in testing." Detecting common pathogens like e. coli and salmonella is fairly simple and both are susceptible to chlorine. You're saying chlorine somehow masks the bacterial load? You're full of shit just like our chicken!
>https://www.cdc.gov/safewater/effectiveness-on-pathogens.html

>>14382373
>just eat shit and chlorine dude lmao
USA! USA! Non white in one generation and PROUD of it!

>>14382385
They find the bacteria when they do a more extensive examination.

>>14382395
>cdc
Hahaha

Viable-but-Nonculturable Listeria monocytogenes and Salmonella enterica Serovar Thompson Induced by Chlorine Stress Remain Infectious

https://mbio.asm.org/content/9/2/e00540-18.full

>>14378851
And states with the best universities in the world.

>>14378744
Why the fuck would you buy chicken from USA when there's perfectly good chicken in the UK?

Some of the yuro schizos on this board are positively rabid. This thread is perfect example of it.

>>14382349
>>14382423
Ok, I have actually found some studies regarding this, and the entire notion of "viable-but-nonculturable" is still controversial, and I can't find any information stating these strains remain pathogenic.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2014.00258/full

>>14382495
>/thread

>>14378765
Meat birds are raised in sheds. The cages you're talking avout are called battery cages and are used for egg production.

NOOOOOOO

YOU CANT JUST ATTEMPT TO DISINFECT THE CHICKERINOS WITH THE SAME CHEMICALRINO THAT WE INGEST FROM THE WATER AND SWIM IN

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>14382562
>>14382668
>just eat shit and chlorine and die for your jewish masters you stupid goy

>>14382385
So imagine if you detect bacteria with a simple test involving a swab and then putting that swab into a chemical agent that changes color. Then imagine that the presence of chlorine overpowers the bacteria and makes that chemical agent turn a different color even though the bacteria are still present and alive. There you go, now you have a false negative.
They don't do a full examination of the chicken meat complete with microscopes when they come off the factory line, they most likely do some simple swab or have some kind of color-changing test strip. It would be very easy for one chemical (chlorine) to hide another (bacteria) in that scenario.

>>14382495
The lower standards allow it to be produced more cheaply, people were worried that they'd undercut prices so much that it would price our farmers out of the market and force us to accept goods of questionable quality. No doubt some will still try this and it'll be available to buy in some places but the media shitstorm over it pretty much guarantees that most people will still buy British chicken even if it's not the cheapest option.

>>14382676
Exhibit A

>>14378758
Canadian here. Germany is only 55% the size of my province and there’s bigger provinces than my own in Canada. Europe is a joke. Get some land ya fuckin snaggletooth commies

>>14382704
wtf USA isn't China.

>>14379275
>European chickens should be chlorinated too in order to reduce disease
there’s no need

>>14382870
>his masters don’t even allow him to keep his dick intact
>I...I just love chlorine on my food!

>>14382882
90 percent of Canada is a desolate frozen wasteland so size isn't really relevant in this case.

>>14378765
also our slaughter houses, my bad, poultry processors are geared towards sub90IQ imported labour to prevent the formation of unions and to keep food costs low so as to hide inflation. its easier to just wash all the chicken in a chlorine solution to get rid of all the shit and other contaminates then it is to have higher standards or invest in better tech.

>>14382241
they still use longhouses in the uk dumbass

>>14382955
>our Jew masters are nicer than yours!
Here are the countries where you get thrown in prison for questioning the six gorillion

>>14378765
The EU has lower standards of food regulations than the US.

https://techround.co.uk/business/american-food-standards/

>>14382676
EU nations commonly grow vegetables in questionable manure and clean them using chlorine, that's why Spanish vegetable produce always has a ton of issues and food scares repeatedly, year in, year out.

>>14383314
>"These totally out of context claims appear to have been derived, totally out of context from readings of the FDA’s Food Defect Levels Handbook."
>Literally links the handbook and it says exactly what was claimed

>>14379275
>Ameriashit unironically attempting to force their shitty food standards on the rest of the world
>Meanwhile his Jewish puppetmasters rub with their hands with glee

Stay on your containment continent please.

>>14378851

Almost all bagged salad is chlorine washed in the EU.

>>14378744
>out of nowhere article mentions Trump

Lmao journalists are subhumans

gettin sick of all this euro hate on us, we should stop playing nice and just start conquesting again and actually be the bad guys because then we at least benefit
lord knows taking europe over isn't all that hard considering they rely on us for defense already
fuck europoors you should be our slaves

>>14378851
there's chlorine in your tapwater

>>14379685
they wash eggs white because it's visually reassuring that you're getting good eggs. white bread exists to demonstrate that you're not selling bread doped with sawdust or other shit. this once was an issue before the pure food and drug law which is why manufacturers still do it

>>14384130
it is a legal requirement if you do not vaccinate the chickens. quit trying to make shit up you dumb pos

>>14379616
Because Americans bathe in ignorance, we know.

>>14379495
based old world traditions of actual quality

>>14378744
This is why Yanks drown their chicken in so much spice. It's to cover up the taste of chlorine.

>>14384130
>white bread exists to demonstrate that you're not selling bread doped with sawdust or other shit.
lol no
white bread exists because use of a flour mill was taxed, so the finer/whiter you milled your wheat the more expensive and therefore prestigious it was.

>>14379685
Why doesn't Europeand the rest of the world have constant outbreaks then?

Show your math lad

>>14384697
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2020/02/250-new-cases-in-salmonella-egg-outbreak-affecting-18-countries/

>>14379685
>In the United States between 1985 and 2002 contamination of eggs was identified as the source of 53% of all cases of Salmonella reported to the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
good job lad

>>14384974
>everyone eats store bought eggs
lol no. did you forget how big America is? A handful of chickens can provide a family with more eggs than they can eat.

so if they got clorine in chicken do i need to wash in sink with vinegar still? chicken seem dirty to me

>>14384697
they do?

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2019/11/uk-bears-brunt-of-multi-country-salmonella-outbreak/

>>14385193

It breaks down chemically so you wouldn't even know its there if you did a side by side comparison.