/ck/ - Food & Cooking

“So doing the two for $10, we made 52 more sandwiches for $58 less. Simple math says this is a bad idea,” a Florida franchisee recently wrote on the Subway franchisee blog.

Subway’s withdrawal is a black eye for CEO John Chidsey, who went all out to push the promotion as the coronavirus crushed sales, including by tapping Puth to participate in the company’s new ad campaign.

“It’s back, it’s back .. the good old days are back,” Puth sings in the ad, which Subway reps touted as the company’s biggest campaign since the popularity of Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, who was arrested for kiddie porn in 2015.

>>14330119
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Starting July 2, the $10-for-2 deal will only be available for customers who order through Subway’s app, the memo said.
so it's still a thing

>>14330117
eh i havent gone since they got rid of the 5$ foot long to begin with.

they are worthless without it and this deal wasnt going to get me off my fat ass anyway

>mom and pop subway shops
What the fuck is with people using this buzzword? Are normies incentivized to consume because of the idea that small businesses need money? How the fuck is a chain restaurant mom and pop?

>>14330470
I went once in like 2014 or so, realized they didn't offer it any more, and never went back

>>14330491
Because since they are franchised by locals they try to operate under they guise that they're "mom and pop." What they don't tell you is the amount of money you need to even open one store, let alone the 20+ that most franchisees have within a 15 mile radius.

>>14330491
It's newspeak to get you to sympathize with big business. Just like Subway calls it's workers "sandwich artists" to get them to feel like they're not fast food worker.

Subway's not bad when I'm AT WORK and thinking about which of the dozen places around me I want to drive to for lunch, but if I'm doing Uber Eats while working from home there's so many better options

subway started collapsing the moment a woman became the CEO
the $5 footlong was the worst thing to ever happen to the company because it completely devalued their product

now nobody is willing to pay more than that even though they can't afford to sell things for that low

>>14330617
This tbqh. Michael Kors has people come in and literally smash individual watches so the company can label them as “defective” and write off the item, instead of selling them on sale.

>>14330617

It's not worth any more than that. They give you a single layer of low quality meat, stale cheese, and two inches of off tasting lettuce.

They can't even compete in most of the South against publix. Half the subways closed down around here when publix took over. They give you a ton of meat and cheese for $8 with chips and a drink and it doesn't taste like plastic.

Subway is mediocre at best. I wish pic related were still around. A bit pricier than Subway, but the sandwiches tasted so much better (at least at my local franchise, whose manager ran it well). I also got coupons almost every week in the mail and there was a loyalty card.

Reading up on how they fucked over their franchisees still makes me seethe. My local Quiznos joint closed up despite being hella popular and now the nearby Subway has no competition whatsoever.

>>14330547
McDonald's is the same, you're not a cashier, you're not a grill cook, you're a crew member.

>>14330789
This is the best. Their bread was way better than anyone's, any cold cut sandwich from there was just super addicting.

Just a simple lettuce/tomato/onion with turkey or ham, mayo and redwine/oil was amazing, addicting, and refreshing

Quizno's was pretty good too for heartier fare. Subway is trash.

>>14330855
That you Lutz?

>>14330491
"mom and pop" shops have less:
-trannies
-pajeets
-niggers
-safe spaces

They also have more:
-kikes
-chinks
-japs
-whiteys

>>14330117
>subway is america's biggest restaurant chain
I'm more concerned about that than I am about 10 for 2.

>>14330491
>what is a franchise?

>>14330117
That's one of the gay things about subway, they don't compensate owners for promotional deals for some reason. Quiznos was the same iirc and it helped kill them

>>14330117
Subway deserves to die. You can get a better sandwich literally anywhere. $5 are a good deal, but they're just not using quality ingredients. The sandwiches from my local grocery stores or delis are so much better. Check out your local grocery store deli counter for more info.

***The more you know!***

>>14331700
Quit whining and do what I do

The "fast food bubble" is going to burst soon, as food and labor goes up.
Particularly in regards to places like Subway which is just getting shittier while prices go up.
Other chains can't raise prices too much more since everyone expects cheap for what they get.
They will need to go "premium" like fast casual chains to justify the price needed to stay in business, or else more and more franchisees will close up.

>>14331764
wtf

>>14330617
Their product is devalued by being total garbage not even suitable for dogs.

>>14332729
>not even suitable for dogs
That is complete and utter hyperbole. I've been in the situation where my family had to eat dogfood every so often, and there isn't even a remote comparison there.

>>14331786
Nah wagies will be replaced by robots.

There's a 24h subway that offers a managers special 2 subs 2 drinks and 2 chips for $17.

Is that a steal or no

>>14332947
Not a steal, but not a bad price for what you are getting either.

>>14332959
I should mention it's $17 after taxes.

>>14331764
There's no way this is real.

>>14331700
Surely in number of locations and not gross profit, since all I hear about Subway is how they keep losing money.

>sell food that is incredibly cheap and doesn't make them money
>"WOOOOW WE SURE ARE SELLING A LOT OF FOOD BUT AREN'T MAKING ANY MONEY"

Are they retarded? Why would anyone buy anything else aside from the cheap ass deal on the main reason why people go to Subway. You can't be a loss leader with your main product.

How the fuck is a deal controversial? Are people showing up to buy a sandwich dressed in klan garb or something?

>>14330491
when you buy from a store whose owners are locals you know the money isnt leaving your stae/city/neigborhood and making other people rich while leaving you in the dust
when the store is locally owned you know the owners will spend the money in other locall owned stores, you know there will be an interest in keeping he streets clean and safe, the overall quality improves in every single way
thats why i still visit my butcher instead of the meas section of the supermarket

>>14330617
>subway gives you a free sandwich each year on their biorthday no strings attached
>this will be great for our business, we lose a days profit but so many people get exposed o out products
>line of 30 people waiting outside subway all day
>3 teenagers desperately sruggling to keep up with demand
>average costumer will wait 40 minutes in line to get the shittiest sandwich he ever had for free
>his person is expected o urn into a return costumer

>>14333068
Controversial for the franchisees that are bleeding money because nobody goes to Subway anymore

>>14330491
Corporate dick sucking, new rags are desperate for adverts.

>>14331729
>>14331736
Can't wait for Subway to go into the dustbin of history. Such a useless overrated place. Jimmy Johns is the only sub place that does it right.
>no gimmicks or ad pitches besides telling people how fast you will get your food
>always reasonably priced
>uses their own delivery drivers so you don't get ripped off and always know who is handling your food

>>14333190
Is Firehouse subs any good? I saw a few of them last time I visited Florida but I never went in

>>14332899
>tfw your fridge is filled with disgusting cold cut trios and all you want is a one delicious can

>>14333220
Pretty decent and a step up in price. About equal to Jersey Mike's. Both offer fresher cuts of meat. FH has a crate of meme hot sauces to mess around with.

JJ isn't really cost effective, but it's quick food.

>>14332947
Trash

>Subway
>mom and pop
Did Subway themselves write this article?

>>14331786
I'm curious how much longer the dollar menu concept will last. I know it's already gone in some areas, but my city still has it at McDonalds. It's a real relic of a bygone age, and there's barely anything left on it.

>>14330645
>>14330617
I'd like to see some data behind this marketing strategy. This era in industry is really sickening with wasted product, outsourced slave labor, and nonrepairable items. These are easily some of the failures of advanced capitalism.

imo everyone already knows fast food items are inexpensive. McD's sold most of their stuff on the dollar menu for years. I think the worst thing about the $5 ft long is that they doubled back on it. It's already a low quality product, but $5 was acceptable when you needed the convenience. Now it's close to twice the price, Jared is a pedo, and they added drive through lanes where you can answer 50 questions through an intercom. Subway is a dumpster fire.

>>14333254
Mcdonalds only has soft drinks and mcchickens for a dollar. Everywhere has gone the "2 for $5" or "4 for $4" route.
Only place that has a real dollar menu left is taco bell.

>>14333254
Taco Bell is the only place with a true dollar menu anymore. Every other place maybe has like 2 or 3 items you can get for a dollar.

>>14333254
Weird. McDs around here offer higher priced items compared to BK and Wendy's. It's like 9-12 bucks for a quarter pounder combo. The chicken tenders and nugs even are better but more expensive than the competing chains.

>>14333281
I can still get a "hamburger" for a dollar. It's a super thin patty. Taco Bell can sell their shit for a dollar because it's barely food.

fast food joints need to cut their square footage, product offerings, and labor. Instead they keep ordering expensive remodeling for homeless people, raising prices, and adding dumb shit like salads to clog up logistic and storage costs

though i guess franchisers have different business models, just milk franchises as much as possible after you hit peak expansion

>>14330117

My local mom&pop neighborhood deli makes huge foot-long sandwiches for $6. Each is stuffed to bursting with at least a 1.5 centimeter layering of meat & cheese, and made with freshly baked hero loaves too. These franchisees are fucking with us when they say Subway can't make a profit on selling paper-thin cheese and sawdust mache for $5

subway smells and tastes like vomit

>>14333068
The $5 footlong deal was controversial for a genuine reason - franchises had to sell them at a loss. So while that deal brought in many customers, it ultimately was a net loss for many stores to support it.

>>14333324
Do people buy that sandwich almost exclusively in the store?
If they draw people in, and people also buy other products in the deli, it is probably much more worthwhile. For many Subway franchises, people would solely come for that one deal, and therefore it came out as an increasing net loss due to inflation.

>Subway can't make a profit on selling paper-thin cheese and sawdust mache for $5
Unless they greatly restrict the non-frozen meats and vegetables they offer, I can totally see it. Compare the price of a footlong to a cheeseburger from mcdonalds, which is a much simpler and less varied offering.

>>14333456
Maybe you should take a shower every once and awhile...

>>14330117
they're crashing and burning. their sandwiches suck. order any sandwich with any toppings and they pretty much taste the same. i recently got a footlong cold cut combo. the 'meat' had a gelatinous texture to it. never going back

>>14330491
Bunch of bullshit. Every subway + tim hortons in my town is owned by the same bald rich jackass. Every single one of them is packed with philipino employees because he's able to treat them like slaves, white people either stick around getting abused or they just don't work there.

Mom & Pop my ass. It's just Pop without any kids and he's a fucking asshole 1%er.

>>14330797
target calls their workers crew members and customers are guests. my buddy recently got promoted and he has to stock and zone a whole department by himself. his title was changed to "dedicated business owner" which gives me serious amway vibes

>>14330797
target calls their workers crew members and customers are guests. my buddy recently got promoted and he has to stock and zone a whole department by himself. his title was changed to "dedicated business owner" which gives me serious amway vibes. he's not even full time.

>>14330117
>bring back the $5 footlong
but it never went away.
also it's a $6 footlong, not $5.

>>14330617
how the hell can little caesars sell a large pizza for $5 but cold cuts costs more?

>>14333254
where I live they mostly call it the "value menu" and at mcdicks the menu has $1 $2 $3 sections and there isn't much left in the $1 section.

>>14334596
bread is basically free, it's like a cup of coffee where the markup is hundreds of percents

like for example you go to a pizzeria here and it'll be $20+ for a regular pizza, but if you order just raw dough you get the same portion for $3.50

toppings are the real killer. this is why subway has had to remove grilled chicken and beef from the menu all together. They can't sell those toppings at their $5 price point

Why is everyone such a penny pincher when it comest to food? I even see it on this very board all the time. It's your FOOD. It goes INSIDE you. It goes in your INNARDS. It NOURISHES you from inside out. So if it's of higher quality, your whole life will be of higher quality. You should spend MORE on it, relative to other things, in order to keep yourself HEALTHY and WELL. You blubbering IDIOT.

>>14330117
$5 footlong was always a money loser for the franchisees. But it's still kind of amazing that so many people go for such a shitty deal in the first place. It goes to show that almost everyone is fucking poor.

>>14333237
Mom and Pop probablybisntbthe best term, but they are referring to the franchisee. Some Subway franchises are owned by a single person. Most are owned by partnerships that own dozens or even hundreds of stores. There are some that own 1000+.

>>14335298
Ah yes CAPITALIZING word in a SENTENCE. YOUve made such A strong point. I SEE where YOUre goING with THIS

>2020
>still eating Subway

why

>>14335264
they've always had $5 subs and then more expensive ones. I wonder why they couldn't just keep them on the menu at the higher price point. I haven't been to a subway in a few years now so I don't really follow their menu

>>14335298
You're not wrong.

Some of us penny pinch everything because money is our TIME.

Nutrition doesn't always equal higher costs. Convenience and more pleasurable foods create demand value.

>>14335382
I like to CAPITALIZE MY WORDS OKAY

>>14330470
They fucked up by making it $10 for 2 sandwiches instead of an actual $5 for 1 foot long. Few people are willing to buy more fast food than they really want to eat in one sitting, and even fewer will spend $10 for that. Could've done $6 foot long and get a second one for $4, leaves the option open for people that want it while making it more appealing at first glance.

>>14331786
the problem is idiots keep buying fast food even though it's more expensive than most food options now

these promos are a drain on their workers. whenever some place offers something cheap, retards flock to it in drones. when i worked at subgay after high school over 10 years ago they brought back the $5 bullshit and the sales noticably went up. i'd just gotten my first min wage job and within a first couple of months i was working twice as hard for the same amount. doesn't make any fucking sense especially when it was not enjoyable work.

>>14337611
Chains will get rid of their register jockeys entirely. I would not be surprised to see more automation added and just someone to do trivial machine maintenance on staff.

>>14334569
this filename is perfect

>>14330117
imagine thinking a subway sandwich is even worth $5

>>14330117
>the deal wasn’t increasing profits for mom-and-pop owners, who revolted against it from the start.

Then "mom & pop" owners are welcome to start their own restaurants, without the benefit of Subway's global marketing and business development network. You're talking about a brand strong enough to survive the discovery that a portion of every sandwich sale was subsizing pedophilia. So, let "mom & pop" start their own sandwich shop instead, and try doing more than babysitting teenagers and collecting receipts for corporate. Maybe they'll eventually learn about the concept of a "loss leader". Or not. Surely mom & pop know better than the accountants and MBAs. It's just a restaurant, right? How hard could it be?

>>14332962
>after taxes
huh? I have always known here in Ohio where I am that food doesn't have tax, is it a city tax or some kinda junk food tax?

>>14330117
I've never gotten the appeal of deli sandwich shops. If im eating something so simple I'll make it at home

>>14342370

In Ohio, apparently take-away food is not taxed:

>Most food items, for example, are not subject to sales tax unless they are consumed on the premises where they are purchased. You'll notice this when you purchase food from a drive-thru. After purchasing your meal, look at your receipt. Food items will not be taxed. However, if you go into the restaurant and eat your meal, your food items will be taxed.
https://tax.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/tax/help-center/resources/tax-education/everyday-purchases

But in some other states (including mine), all restaurant orders are taxed.

>>14342395
well I guess its another reason why Ohio is the most powerful state.

>>14342391

It's about saving time/effort if you don't have all of the ingredients for a certain sandwich at hand. And it's not just laziness, especially for workday lunches. Sandwiches that are hot or wet (or both) could be prepared at home in the morning but would not fare well come lunchtime.

Moreover, some shops really do have certain combinations of ingredients, or methods of preparation, that hit a "sweet spot" and would be difficult to exactly replicate elsewhere. My favorite old deli was in the back of a beer/wine store in a strip mall. Nothing they did was fancy or exotic, but I have never made or found another turkey sub that could match.

(Now I'm hungry.)

>>14342399

>>14342425
I didn't like being in Ohio but seeing other states I am glad we are crazy but not insane, also I like our winding roads, going through Indiana was mind numbing since it was just fields on both sides of the road broken up by some "towns" that are 2 houses and an old church, also I find memes about Ohio funny.

>>14342434

I have no beef with Ohio. I have only been twice, very briefly, both times to the Cleveland suburbs. Coming from the Northeast, it felt pretty much the same (both good and bad).

Keeping it /ck/ related, I do regret not getting some Cincinnati chili. That's on the list for next time (if there is one).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_chili

My vague memories of Indiana are similar to yours. Overall, driving west, with the exception of Chicago, the view from the highway did not seem really "different" until Kansas.

Stay safe Ohiobro.

Subway is boomer slop

>>14342456
>Cincinnati chili
never had it and it looks and sounds awful to me, I enjoy chili dogs but no beans? get out of my face and that massive pile of cheese and "chili" I expect you would end up with a soggy bun, and I can't stand soggy bread, one of the only food items that makes me gag, I don't like mushrooms or avocado but if I do end up eating I just spit it out or eat it anyway, and you stay safe too whateverstateyouliveinbro.

5
5 year
5 year jail sentence

>>14342590

>>14330789
My only complaint is there too expensive.

$25 for two 12 inch subs is pretty over priced.

Jimmy John's is straight garbage.

>>14342434

Sell me on Ohio, what would I visit there. And seeing as this is /ck/ what's some shit to try and go eat there?

>>14342679
Come and see Touchdown Jesus at the totally not a drug money laundering front church

>>14342665
Yeah, I had one once.
It makes Subway look like Quzinos.

>>14342705
forgot pic, silly me

Also as far as food goes, there's the classic cheese coneys, but if you wanna get really wild then find a place that sells spanish dogs, usually at root beer stands.

>>14342679
>>14342711

>Read up about touchdown jesus
>It got struck by lightning

If that doesn't say something I don't know what the fuck does.

Now then, down to business. Tell me more of these spanish dogs.

>>14342679
>what would I visit
the last thing I went to was the cuyahoga county scenic railway, nice train ride about 2 hours in all and once you reach the end they have a small museum about the history of Ohio's waterways and a old water elevator they had, as well as a room that was just general 19th century living stuff, I haven't been in about 6 years but COSI in columbus was something I enjoyed a lot and they swapped out some things outside like having a farming theme or construction, but thats more of a childrens thing, you could go hiking, we have a lot of that or cave exploring, we have tons of caves
>And seeing as this is /ck/ what's some shit to try and go eat there?
I have no idea, I rarely go out to eat and when I do its just fast food to hold me over until I get back home, also I live in a village (its not big enough to be classed as a town) of 500< people and am a 10 minute drive from town, most summers I would go to Seneca lake since its close, what I enjoy about Ohio is that I find the nature to be really nice looking and depending on where you are its mostly smaller towns, also I am Mennonite and I like the Amish around here.
>>14342705
I forgot about that statue, its gone now right? last I heard it got struck by lightning and burned up because it was poorly made.

>>14342717
This is a spanish dog
It's basically a chili dog, but the sauce is sweet and tangy. They're like crack.

>>14342751

Okay, you're starting to convince me. Is it just a regional/state thing or are there places that specifically sell it?

>>14342751
it looks like your brown buttcrack

>>14342800
They're traditionally found at Root Beer Stands, and it seems to be a Ohio and Indiana thing, but they're not exactly a common menu item for the majority of restaurants.
The one my dad always took me to was B-K Root Beer Stand in Troy OH and we'd get like 8 spanish dogs and two fuckhuge mugs of rootbeer. It was a drive-in too, so they'd bring the tray to your car and hang it on the window old fashioned style.

>>14336978
People that eat fast food will be buying two fucking subs anyway. "HURRR IT IS HEALTHIER SO I CAN EAT DOUBLE" mentality.
No it isn't just the USA like some idiots claim.

>>14333068
They way fast food franchising works is usually an independent investor buys in to set up the restaurant. This seems counter intuitive since they're paying the corporation to open one of their restaurants but they're licensing an established brand. They also agree to conform to whatever standards corporate decides for them and in the case of Subway the corporation makes decisions which are horribly unprofitable for the franchisees.

>>14332899
How do you make it more palatable?