/ck/ - Food & Cooking

that picture is fake, the chocolate would never melt like that

>>14294795
its real

>>14294795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3AI1eQ50iE

its hard to believe but this high magic is real

They're alright, except you can never use non magnetic cookware or cook when the power is out.

>>14294783
that picture looks fate, no way the chocolate on the side wouldnt melt a littlr just from the heat of the melted chocolate next to it

>>14294873
Retard

>>14294907
you can see in the video wxactly what i m talking about

>>14294870
If you look at that video, the chocolate outside the pan but in contact with the pan is melting already. They try to draw your attention away from it immediately. The OP picture is a staged exaggeration of how it works.

>>14294926
holy shit you guys are autistic.

>>14294870
When the ring touched the element I got scared.

>>14294783
How much of your aversion to them is just not being used to cooking with them? Some people would like how quickly it gets hot.

>>14294823
>>14294870
I know induction cooktops will only heat up conductive metals
I'm saying the OP picture is staged to derail a stupid bait/advertisement thread

>>14295120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RajIEjHOCsM

>>14295181
I don't know how this relates to what I said? OP claimed they were faster?

>>14295139
it not bait thread -_-;
am honestly wondering if there any hidden downside to induction!

have even bought consumer reports subscription and looked everywhere for ratings! Mostly everywhere Induction blows gas and coils out of the water. Just looking for any descending opinions!!!

>>14295218
No copper, glass, or aluminum cookware. Unless you use a big steel plate under them.

No power, no cooking.

>>14295231
theses arent downsides though. Only poors use alumnomnomnom and copper is bad for you anyways. the tf cooks with glass and when the powers out?

give me real downsides like inductions causes cancers or fries my babies in their womb

>>14295218
One problem is you can't use a wok because no flame

>>14295270
I cook with glass nigger

>>14295088
>touhou reaction image
Pot vs kettle.

>>14295281
Woks should really have their own hob.

I installed a Miele induction stovetop. Its fucking perfect for everything except the wok. I'm putting a gas restaurant hob in my outdoor kitchen, for the wok

>>14295288
Then no induction for you

>>14295590
>miele
shit those look really fucking nice.

>>14295288
>glass nigger
is that like some sort of fried chicken?

>>14294783
I pity you people who can't get natural gas.

>>14295663
i have both
induction is almost always better

>>14295721
How so? It's less efficient and takes longer to come to temp. I suppose fine adjustment is better.

>>14294783
>are there any hidden downsides to induction stove tops?
you have to be selective with your pans and if you're not careful you can crack the glass top.

>>14294783
>power goes out
>can't cook

>>14295663
>I pity you people who c

>>14295880
>power goes out
>can't c

>>14295872
>if you're not careful you can crack the glass top
I guess if you're retarded and routinely slam pans on your stove then yeah? Induction is great, it seems to heat up faster than gas honestly, but it's probably not a noticeable difference. Definitely easier to clean though, just a nice flat surface as opposed to burnt shit stuck to a million irregular edges. Also no worries about a gas leak killing me in my sleep. I have a gas grill outside for fire when I need it, and I never use a wok, so it suits me fine.

>>14295864
It can boil a pot of water in 90 seconds, and can hold temp extremely well. Most residential gas hobs are utter shit grade, barely better than the stupid coil electric you see

Why wouldn't a wok work? Does an induction stove only heat the area in contact with the stove top? I vaguely remember Ja/ck/ trying one out and complaining it wasn't heating correctly, but that was just because he was a retard and only had it set to use the inner ring and not the full ring to fit the pan he was using.

Does this mean the sides of your pot don't heat up?

are we meant to get those little meme tablet cooking things you see on the buzzfeed videos all the time?

>>14294783
does shit bake on/stick to the pan easily?

>>14295973
The wok would get hot, but you couldn't get fire into the wok itself. You couldn't deglase and flambe

>>14295408
Is that an anime show

>>14294783
Blood sometimes leaks from between the stovetop and counter. If you try and fix that by sticking it in an island in the middle of the kitchen it'll scream a few nights out of every month.

>>14296029
Depends what your pan is made of and how you prepare it

>>14295930
That's not my experience at all. Even shitty third world gas stoves come to temp quick while my brief 3-4 months with an induction stove were frustrating. I was stuck with a coil for like 3 years after that, and I agree those are terrible. I would guess that because induction is newer, they're overall in better condition.

Holding temp doesn't seem particularly useful for a stovetop. All you need is a simmer and otherwise wouldn't you use the oven for longer cooks?

>>14296201
Few years ago I was in a somewhat upscale rental property in the bay area. It had a kenmore "elite" brand stove. That thing only had one good burner.

I like gas, dont get me wrong, but I prefer induction. Luckily with modern smaller hobs, you can put both in

>>14296061
What's stopping you from just lighting it up with a butane torch?

>>14296229
>What's stopping you from just lighting it up with a butane torch?

>>14296229
Very little I suppose. I'll have to try my wok later

Only down side is the cookware is pretty expensive. Other than that it’s all good.

>>14294873
Exactly the induction top heats up the metal which then heats up the surface through convection heating.

>>14296261
>cast iron
>expensive
???

>>14295270
Have a multi day power outage because of a hurricane. Then come back to me.

>>14295864
Induction is about 40% more efficient than Gas.

you're losing 50% of your heat energy and fuel when using gas.

Gas has couple advantages
You can move the pans around more freely, throw them around, no fear of breaking a glass surface.
You can use the gas flame to cook paprikas or flat breads.
Induction may have issues with the buttons being in the surface next to the pans and be vulnerable to liquids faking a press and causing beeps and turning the thing on accidentally.

>>14295088
No, that would be you.

>>14294783
Glass top is absolute trash. Enjoy when a can or measuring cup or something falls out of your cabinet and cracks your glass. And also enjoy not being able to shake and oscillate your pan without the fear of scratching or breaking your glass. Glass tops are probably the dumbest thing to hit the kitchen in the past 40 years.

>>14295651
Kek

>>14295899
Are you having a stroke?

Can you do this with induction?

>>14294783
its fucking simple.
every single cook will tell you exactly the same thing so by asking the question i already know what category you fit in.

GAS = FIRE = COOKS CHOICE
INDECTION = MEME = REDDIT

anyone that says anything contrary to this is a faggot meme reddit bitch jordanlicker joggerfucker

>>14297386
Pic

>>14297391
the answer is a standalone gas cooker for those novel things you see on youtube cooking channels

>>14297391
induction is reddit meme faggotry
can you roast a fucking chili on your faggot magnet stove? eat shit assholes

Kill yourself

>>14295231
No gas, no cooking xD

>>14297396
>>14297391
I'm not poor and own a grill.
>>14296389
Stop living in a shitty area. It's like retards who live in tornado alley and then complain about their house being ripped apart every few years.

Also if you're actually getting hit by a hurricane odds are you aren't getting gas for safety reasons.

>>14297396
Neat

>>14294783
cooking with induction is fucking cancer. If you really want those black glass tops go electric else go gass.

>>14294783
I really love induction. It’s so extremely fast and most of all, it doesn’t make the kitchen hot like hell. There are downsides, like not being able to use wok, but the pros outweight the cons by several magnitudes. I cooked with gas and coil and induction, and induction is far superior and it’s not even close.

>>14297501
Was just asking a question, you didn't have to be a dick. And yes, you are poor. Dumb fuck.

>>14295108
How many people you know wearing ferrous jewellery?

>>14297333
And electricity is 3 times the price per unit of energy.

>>14295088

>>14294783
that picture is fake you can't do that in real ity. the photographer likely melted the chocolate and then put the other bar down and took the photo within seconds. just look at that gap it's clearly two different things. I wouldn't be surprised if they just photoshopped it

My experiences with induction have not been good. It's very difficult to get a feel for the temperature. Also, I don't know if this is a case of the stove top being cheap, but I have experienced induction tops when keeping something at a medium temperature, it just keeps turning itself off and on instead of actually keeping a temperature. Because of this, I have been unable to steadily cook something that needs to be at a low boil, because instead of a steady boil it will be at a reasonable boil for 30 seconds, then off for 30 seconds, then boil again.

>>14294783
InWHATion?

Basically no downsides if you use thick cookware.
If you use cheap shit with a thin bottom you get hotspots.
Some people find the buzzing annoying.

>>14296274
Cast iron is very expensive when you're buying new.

>>14295895
>>14295899
whats with these anti-gas stove shills?

>>14298901
Yeah, gas stoves are totally s-

Even some restaurants have switched to induction only. Get with the times grandpa.

>>14298992
No no no stupid zoomer! Gas is the best and nothing could go w-

>>14298901
Electrician here. I posted those mostly as a joke. Gas is still as popular as ever, but it's always a pain in the ass to work around gas lines. We had an excavator snag on a rogue nipple while trenching, and our apprentice who was in the trench must have been deaf for at least a couple days. He was fucking bawling while we were waiting for the gas crew to patch the line, thinking his career was over.
Probably has chronic EEEEEE now, though...

>>14294783
If you're a clutz or like to cook drunk, I'd rather not

>>14298619
It's the cheapest cost per use wise

you will get hotspots with most thin pans
can't use carbon steel (it'll warp because of the hotspots), cast iron will probably take a while to properly heat up
can't properly regulate (since it's either full on or full off)

regular ceramic electric stove is better overall imo (I like that it retains heat and doesn't need direct contact)

but gas can do everything better

it might not matter at all in your case, depending on what and how you cook
at the end of the day, if you really want to, you can make anything work just fine

>>14299145
>but gas can do everything b

>>14294823
it's a fake

>>14294783
Cannot wok stir fry. An open flame also heats up sides of wok constant slamming on induction surface from wok will cause damage

I dont want to replace my whole stovetop but whats a good induction hotplate?

>>14299365
I use the polyscience CMC850.

>>14298619
bullshit, i can go to the grocery store and get a good cast iron pan for like $20
or are you a retard who bought into the finex meme

>>14299145
>cast iron will probably take a while to properly heat up
induction can melt an ingot of iron in a matter of seconds

>>14299365
Polyscience or Breville if you can afford it, if not, MAX is pretty good

>>14299931
>>14299439
thanks anons

>>14299938
thermador

>>14294783
I’ve had an induction stove for years and can confirm it’s pretty good. works amazingly well for somethings.

The pros:
>Boiling is crazy fast. Mine has a booster function that boils in like 90 seconds. >Also great for simmering/braising because the temp is very well controlled. >The actual burner doesn’t get hot the metal itself does so it cools quickly. It just catches the heat radiating from the pot.

But there are lots of down side too:
>doesn’t work with non-magnetic pots. Not really an issue if you have decent pots but some specialty pots might not work.
>burners are finicky. If a pots too small the burner might not recognise it’s there and not turn on
>cooks things so fast that you’ll burn everything when you first get one. You get used to it but you basically have to relearn all you cook times.
>pot needs to be in contact to work so no pulling it of to bring it farther from the heat

Overall, I would take an induction stove over everything except a gas range. Ideally I’d have a few induction burners on a gas range to boil or simmer on.

>>14295231
>No power, no cooking.
What third world shithole do you live in where the power goes out so often that this is a real consideration when conducting a stove purchase?

Do you still cook in an open fire pit?

>>14300390
One more con I forgot is that the centre of the pan heats faster than the edges and that means the cook is uneven. A real pain when frying eggs actually.

>>14295139
Then why do you say fake? How is this picture staged? Are you a schizo?

>>14301004
Lmao you're the fucking schizo if you watched the video >>14294870 and still think the OP pic isn't staged or shopped or misleading in some way. Glowing

>>14294783
Real men use gas, so you'll look like a effeminate faggot. But that's probably the only drawback.

>>14294783
I own one and I'm loving it. Only disadvantage so far is that woks are basically not working to an acceptable degree with them even if they are specially made for induction. So if you're big on asian cuisine I'd say go gas but for the basic western stuff induction is superiour.

>>14300432
Higher end ranges will actually pump more power into the edges and less into the center
My miele does this, for example

>>14301974
Yeah, electric stoves are for faggots and w-

>>14299145
>can't properly regulate (since it's either full on or full off)
that is not true at all, I use induction professionnally , the one I use has 20 levels of power
for my work its immensely better than gas, no comparison

>at the end of the day, if you really want to, you can make anything work just fine
mostly this yeah

>>14302102
*Happens less than 300 times per year in America, leaving you with less than a one in a million chance to occur in your path*
Less than a .0001% oh no no no how will induction shill ever recover

>>14302102
>>14302102
>Yeah, electric stoves are for faggots and w
Yes

>not having a single gas burner, an induction hotplate, and an electric stove

Is the metal safe?

>>14302289
>actually having all that shit

>>14302319
Not really, I once dropped my induction pan on my dog and had to take her to the vet.

>>14299924
yeah that's exactly the problem, hot spot + high power will fuck your pan up

one thing you can do is pour some hot water into the pan (just enough to coat the bottom}, it'll help with evenly pre heating

>>14298513
I love induction but yes, this is probably the biggest downside. Although I must say that I only have have experience with cheap portable induction hobs, with a nice built in stove it might be different. I hear the newer/nicer models have actual power regulation, not the pulsed power shitty shortcut.

>>14302358
How convenient

>>14295218
I used a cheap hotplate style one and it made a bad sound but I think that's because it was so cheap

>>14302289
It seems to me that it's not really worth having electric. Induction just seems to do electric better and anything electric inches out over induction is beat out by gas.

>>14302654
cheap ones will get crazy coil hum, but they work fine

>>14294783
>are there any hidden downsides to induction stove tops?
Less intuitive heat manipulation, you must trrust an indicator instead of the actual flame which pisses me off
No open flame so some preparations are out-of-reach
Only works for some stoves so you are even more limited

I wold only recommend Induction if you cook very little / simple things or you are a pastry chef

Never get induction for old people.
They can't handle it.

>>14295218
I bought a two-burner Duxtop induction because my apartment has the awful off-kilter electric coils that never sit flat
it was ~200 and totally worth it. Heats up to temp way faster, and I never use more than two burners anyway.

If I were to buy a proper full-sized, I'd make sure it had adjustable power levels rather than one that turns on and off to maintain temperature.

>>14295895
>>14295899
Kek

>>14297501
>you aren't getting gas
Beans are a common staple of emergency rations so that might not be true.

>>14294926
Fuck off conspiracy ff****

>>14294926
F4gg0+

>>14303783
>>14303790
What's the matter, can't get around the swear word filter your mom put on your computer?

>>14294783
The only con with induction is any aluminum pans you have are going to be useless.

>>14303790
you can type fa**** on 4chan anon, its not a banned word

does induction turn itself on and off to regulate the heat like with ceramic? because that's ass

>>14299365
ikea

>can't use copper, ceramic, or aluminum
so it basically does nothing exceptional but limits you?