/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14280785
Chinese people invented your national dish.

>>14280785
Fuck off Guineas.

>>14280785
Pepperoni on Pizza, you know, the classic italian style.

>>14280789
fpbp
get fucked op

America invented Italian food. I realize that at one time Italian "people" had their own original cuisine, but that has went to the wayside and no one even remembers what those dishes were. Ever since America reinvented Italian food, the country of Italy has changed it's cuisine to copy it. It's easily observable. They don't even have a dish without tomatoes anymore, which is an ingredient invented in America. Also dominos is now the most popular pizza there.

i drink red wine out of a box

>>14280785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teQmpOtjCjY&t=24s
Spaghetti tacos uma delicia

>>14280785
pizza was invented in the sates

>>14280785
Mexicans took the best from you and made it better

>>14281294
This is correct. When the world thinks of pizza it thinks of superior American pizza. No one thinks of some burnt toast with some shitty tomato paste and a few leaves on it lmao

>>14280785
Ketchup on pizza and spaghetti with pineapple.

>>14281323
spaghetti with pineapple is pretty bad, but ketchup on pizza is hands down one of the worst things I've heard so far

>cracks spaghetti
>puts it in water
>turns stove on
>puts cream in carbonara

>>14280785
how is olive oil fine but olives themselves are trash?

>>14281386
Try eating real olives rather than imported chinese "olives"

>>14280785
Pizza with
>Chorizo
>Confit Tomatoes
>Pickled Red Onions
>Radishes
>Cilantro
>Served with a lime wedge

>>14280785
If you were really Italian you wouldn't need to make this thread. You guys get triggered by literally everything.

>>14280785
Blacks make better spaghetti than you.

>>14280785
Behold!

Peas and mint belong in carbonara

>>14281414
In a pig's eye.

Ranch on pizza mm

It's not a proper pizza without cheddar cheese.

Italians are pretty much the Mexicans of Europe, except without the humble realization they might as well be negroes.

>>14280785
marinara without dairy or sugar

>>14281434
Thats not blue cheez

Traditional Italian is boring. It's peasant food and almost all Italian restaurants in America modify shit to improve it.

>>14281442
Also forgot, Mexicans naturally work like 10 times harder than any italian nigger.

>>14281456
bullshit and u know it

>>14281459
No, it's not. Every Mexican I have ever worked with works as hard or harder than anyone else.

>>14281459
He's right. You guys built up Europe, stole from the greeks, made great innovations and then burned out and got lazy. It's time to bring back rome

>>14281472
Italians took sex from the Greeks and found out you could do it with women

>>14281472
>It's time to bring back rome
man couldnt agree more.

B A S E D

>>14280785
banana peppers, and of course... the "Italian sausage that has the fennel seeds in it", please.

>>14280785
Fra Diavolo, alfredo, grana padano, chicken francaise, lasagna, al dente. Should I continue?

>>14280785
okay how thin do you slice the gabagool?

Sicilians are arabs and also your best cooks

>>14281493
We are...roman's were all about homosexual pedophiles running things and we've made great progress

>>14280785
I made this for my gf the other night, tell me how much it pains you as an Italian on a scale of 1-10

>Sautee white button mushrooms in EVOO
>Add finely diced shallot, butter, sliced garlic
>Deglaze with glug of vermouth
>Add a splash of cream and about a quarter cup grated parmigiano reggiano
>boil pasta in salted water, take pasta out of water and place directly into sauce
>Add handful chopped parsley and plenty of fresh cracked black pepper

It was [spoiler]delicious

>>14281571
>vermouth

>>14281277
Based. Reminder that carbonara was originally made with SPAM from GI's rations

>>14281592
i dont drink so idk anything about wine. it was what we had

>>14280785
How many times a week does your mother have to shave off her mustache?

>>14280785

I cook better food than both your mother and grandmother combined.

>>14281365

I remember in school there was a kid that would put ketchup on Pizza, he claimed it was the same thing as pizza sauce.

>>14281488
>Italians
No, that would be the French. I've never heard of Italians liking anal sex. French women will let you turn their assholes into a WW1 trench though.

>>14280785
Cum to Brasil

>>14280785

>>14281467
And I've worked with some very lazy mexicans. Cool story man.

op's not coming back lads

>>14280785
Your entire cuisine is shit and consists entirely of pasta. The Mexicans beat you every time on every front, including diversity of flavor and ingredients.

>>14280785
Your mama's recipe for a nationally treasured dish is slightly different from your nonna's. Both of those differ from most other recipes. If Italian men were made aware, and Italian women cared in the slightest about what was cooked outside of their own kitchens, Italy could fall so quickly and so completely even the French could take it.

Carbonara with udon noodles and roe

I made caccio e pepe but accidentally threw out all the noodle water, so I quickly boiled up a few packs of instant noodles and used that water.

>>14281716
You know when you've got the point lined up in the crosshairs, but you still manage to miss, and instead of taking another shot, you just bask in how close you were?

Take another crack at it. I'm sure you'll get the punch line dead on this time.

>>14282283
>le epic pasta water meme
Literally does nothing

Al dente is for faggots

>>14282299
The added starch makes it thicken better when the cheese is put in.

>>14282317
There is no added starch, you retard. It's water. I bet you think salting your pasta water does something too don't you faggot

>>14282364
It makes the pasta saltier.

>>14282367
It doesn't. That's what sauce is for

>>14282299
I know you're trolling but for any curious onlookers I got curious one weekend and tested this with some aglio e olio side by side and it absolutely makes a huge difference.

>>14282383
Again, trolling, but this is stupid, salting your water absolutely makes your pasta salty. Don't believe anything this anon says now he's 2 for 2

>>14282383
>putting salt on your pasta does not make it saltier
um

>>14280785
Luca Brasi Sleeps With The Fishes

>>14282284
Just do the head shot, don't hit the diapers on their heads.

>>14282395
It's not putting salt in it. You're salting the water. It's sad you don't know the difference
>>14282387
>>14282385
Oh look another seething italian. Your meme cooking steps do nothing

>>14282383
You have to put a full tablespoon of salt in the pasta water you know. A pinch is not enough

>>14282437
bu... bu... mommy tells me to put peas and tuna in my macacroni and cheese.

>>14282383

cooking it in salted water absolutely does season the noodles themselves, it's not up for debate; the pasta absorbs some of the water, the water contains salt.

>>14282437
yes, and the water surrounds the pasta. The salt water.

I never, ever use fresh garlic. Just that stuff in a jar. I think it's just as good.

>>14282284
www.reddit.com

Carbonara is better with garlic.

>>14281365
how about ranch on 'za

>>14280785
Pizza is a sicilian dish.

>>14282437
And the pasta absorbs the salt water, retard

>>14280785
I’m a white liberal bitch who eats fried cum

>>14280785
I made carbonara yesterday and added a clove of garlic

>>14280785
Pizza is an american invention and all the best varieties originated outside of Italy

>>14280785

>>14281242
Pizza "alla diavola" or "al salame piccante" is one of the most popular in Italy.
that's basically pepperoni

>>14282640
It absorbs water. Not salt
>>14282489
You are not a smart man
>>14282459
Pasta doesn't absorb salt you fucking idiot

>>14282734

yes, it does, 3% of the salt in the water is absorbed

>>14282734
Shut up faggot bitch NIGGER

>>14282734
haha look mom I’m trolling on 4channel dot org!

>>14281287
Am French. Am fucking triggered.

>>14282734
bait

>>14282646
What edge, step aside!

>>14280785
How about hot dogs and french fries on pizza? Funny thing is that I got this in a little town in Sicily.

>>14280785
Use Comte Salami and Fererro Nutella for peak performance.

>>14280785
Cream in my Carbonara

>>14283989
Some places do it, it's mostly a zoomer thing for little kids

>>14280785
there is nothing wrong with cream in carbonara

>>14280785
Spaniard here. Here I come. 50% of worldwide olive oil is produced in Spain. Spain exports a lot to Italy each year. Italy cannot produce enough for the italians demand so they mix spanish olive oil with italian and pretend it's national olive oil. If you buy "italian" olive oil in the states most likely it's spanish olive oil they are reselling.

Checkmate.

>>14284123
This just sounds silly

>>14284137
Yet its the truth

>>14284137
It's completely true. Spain sells olive oil it to Italy because the companies don't wanna deal with the logistics of exporting it to the states. It's a win win for both parties.

>>14284224
>>14284149
Any source?

>>14280785
that real fucking guinea shit, GIVE IT TO ME

>>14284226
No anon. There is no source for a international fraud easily covered by both parties. Spain stays silent for a reason.

Believe what you want but Italy doesn't produce enough olive oil to feed its population and export at the same time.

>>14284267
Ok

>>14282591
buffalo chicken pizza with ranch drizzled on top is like crack to me holy fuck it's so good

Spanish olive oil is way better.

>>14284267

Source: trust me bro

>>14280785
best milanesas and pizzas are made in Argentina, this is a fact

>>14280785
Carbonara but with chedder.

You owe everything you are and hold dear to America. And yet you are still a joke.

>>14284123
I buy superior American olive oil. Spain and Italy are Gaylords

childhood summer staple - pasta with strawberries

>>14285017
Holy shit, does /pol/and actually do this?

>>14280785
banana on pizza

>>14285017
k wtf

>>14285017

id be willing to bet those backwards ass swedes are behind this

>>14282154
The only lazy people I have worked with are entitled white americans and hispanic women

>>14281378
>pours olive oil in pasta water

>>14285942
>Pours pasta water in olive oil

>>14284287
True but the true og ranch pizza to me was putting ranch packets on elementary school cafeteria cheese pizza

>>14285838
filename looks polish

>>14280785
Spaghetti with canned ragu sauce, ground beef, green bell pepper, tomato, onion, garlic, bay leaf and 1 pound of shredded monetary jack on top.

My version of Spaghetti and its better than any authentic shit I tried :^)

>>14281472
Il Duce

>>14280785
carbonara with ham, peas, and velveeta
also, are italians really such gatekeepers about their food or is it played up for videos?
cause too often it seems like they go out of their way to act offended if someone does something that isn't exactly like their grandmother's recipe from some tiny ass village

Ramen spaghetti.
>>14281386
Certain people have a genetic disposition that makes olives not taste like the heavenly king of fruits that they are. Olive oil is unaffected. Suicide is the only option.

>>14280785
French, Greek, german and British food are all better than Italian
When you think about it you have nothing going for you other than pasta that you didn't invent with tomato sauce that you also didn't invent. Your cheese is inferior, your desserts are inferior. Italy gets a massive free pass just because it's surrounded by other countries who do better, your language fucking sucks and you should just start speaking English instead
You do have some pretty landscapes and cities so I give you that

>>14281277
>Also dominos is now the most popular pizza there.
kek, I remember that thread

>>14280785
I put mayo on pizza.

>>14280785
You momma? She a makea terrible meatballs. My brotha Antonio makea better meatballs. I say this to your face! Pthoo! I woulda not feeda my dog your mommas meatballas!

Carbonara with bacon and garlic
oil in the pasta water
grater cheddar instead of parmesan
Mozzarella from cow's milk

I put a bit of asian fish sauce in

>>14280785
>Pineapple on pizza
I’ll still never get why this is the ultimate agreed upon bad thing. It’s pretty dang tasty and goes good with the tomato sauce. I used to bitch and moan like everyone else until I actually tried some Hawaiian pizza

>>14287492
I am over 40 years old. It's a dumb meme that comes up every so often. Pineapple on pizza is fine, people just like to have a harmless stupid thing to argue about.

>>14284903
nobody cares that you have no taste
its a given, this is /ck/

>>14280785
Succhiatelo un cazzo per una buona volta OP

>>14287255
show pics of his tits or it didn't happen

>>14280785
lo sai che qui in svezia hanno la pizza con la banana?

>>14280785
A friend told me his secret ingredient for a really delicious bolognese sauce: chopped up fishsticks. Not even lying

Chicken in pasta

Italians eat so much pasta that they call everything else antipasta.

>>14287703
Antipasti
"Pasto" means meal. It's something you have "before" (anti) a meal (pasto)

>>14281287
Classy

>>14283989
Where's the gravy?

>>14280785
>tomato
>mozzarella
>pasta
There, I've mastered Italian cuisine.

>>14286406
>French, Greek, german
Sure
>British
You dropped your Grouch Marx glasses, bong.

>>14286406
> When you think about it you have nothing going for you other than pasta that you didn't invent with tomato sauce that you also didn't invent.
I know you are trolling but at least put some effort to it
> pesto, all the risottos, truffles just to name a few

> your desserts are inferior
> what is cassata, cannoli, tiramisu, gelato

if you want to do it right, meat is the real shit you want to talk to triggers italians

>>14280785
>Italian here
>Trigger me
your national FC is for shite
>haven't won the World Cup since 2006
>haven't won the Euro Champs since 1968
>haven't won Confederations in EVER

>>14288310
>if you want to do it right, meat is the real shit you want to talk to triggers italians
branzino, battered and deep fried. no tartar or remoulade please, just ketchup.

>>14286406
>, your language fucking sucks
Honestly is objectively on of the best natural language currently spoken.
Wh

>you should just start speaking English instead
ile there some poor decisions, like almost irregular verbs conjugations and some redundant tense most of the language is pretty solid.
Please, no. English is one of the most cacophonic and nasal language ever. It sounds like you constantly have dicks in your nostrils

>>14288405
That's good, the thought of battered branzino really is something perverse.

I put bacon in my carbonara because it tastes better and Giovanni Amato was the only italian worth a shit.

>>14288477
Kill yourself

>>14280785
Literally every single aspect of your food was perfected by Americans
You faggots invented wine and frog eaters and pot smokers make WAY better wine than you ever have or will
Fuck Italy and fuck Italians you're all fucking stuck-up retards get raped by a German chad, retard.
Did that do it?

>>14280785
Your national cuisine is just knockoff Chinese food with cheese.

>>14288514
> the traditional bat soup with pecorino
I really want to understand where this meme originated from, i guess from salty americans

>>14288581
Or from unseasoned Italians putting cheese rinds and parsley in their bat soup. Always salt the water, Giovanni. Always.

>>14280789
gottm

>>14288642
Get a noose

>>14288401
What's pretty funny during these "troubling times" are the empty stadiums yet there are stadium fan noises piped in. It's like "where's this fucking noise coming from?"

>>14288637
> Always salt the water, Giovanni. Always.
I always do, John. I like my food to have taste

>>14288666
The brine should cure the bats, Gio. Learn from the mistakes your slightly paler cousins have made.

must... eat... bats

>>14288684
Salt the bathwater. Clean yourself while you clean the bats. If you're not a seasoned legionnaire by the time you're clean, you didn't put enough salt in, and you'll die of bat-borne Legionnaire's Disease. You've got two choices - be a centurian, or be a casualty. Always salt the god damned water Gio!

>>14288673
> The brine should cure the bats,
You sound like you really know your bat soup

>>14288702
Born and raised in the back alleys between Chinatown and Little Italy... sometimes the bats were the easiest to steal - the chickens fought back too hard, and the cats kept stealing my goldfish. Nothing - and I mean nothing - was easier prey than the lonely Nonna though, if you take my meaning. Do you get what I'm saying Gio?

A pizza with kebab, fries and cold thick bearnaise on it is the perfect drunk food.

Furthermore, I put Edamer, egg yolk, and bacon in my carbonara, but I don't know if that's bad or not.

>>14288746
Both of these sound good. Very subtle. Well done - my ancestors weep for the loss of your soul.

>>14288710
> Born and raised in the back alleys between Chinatown and Little Italy
So eating bat is an italian american tradition then, I got it.
This must be what americans mean when they say they perfected italian cuisine.
Now it all makes sense. Do you add hamster meat in your diet too ?

>>14288773
Hamster's a great substitute for rabbit or cui. They breed like - well hamsters, and they're reasonably lean. Equally fantastic with sunday gravy, or tuesday hoisin.

>>14288760
I am germanic, I never had a soul.

>>14280785
>*shakes vigorously at you*

>>14288746
> A pizza with kebab, fries and cold thick bearnaise on it is the perfect drunk food.
It's actually consumed a lot in italy and well accepted as a junk food

>>14288746
fries and bearnaise is based as fuck. adding that onto a pizza with kebab meat and now you're making me want to day-drink and make that exact thing. no-can-do though. no drinky on pain meds.

>>14280785
>There are many theories for the origin of the name carbonara, which is likely more recent than the dish itself.[4] Since the name is derived from carbonaro (the Italian word for 'charcoal burner')
>charcoal burner
>coal burner
lmao

>>14281456
>>14281442
die, nigger.

>>14286229
Yeah, literally name of this"dish"

>>14280785
easy.
manicottis
raviolis

>>14281761
Are there jelly beans on the chocolate cookie in the middle?

Im thinking based

t. American

>>14280785
Italy may have been a great country at one point, but they have stalled as a nation and have become a burden upon the EU. Rather than to innovate and create new buildings and architecture they spend their whole day trying to recreate a past that has been long gone. It's what they base their entire economy on and without it they are good as broke. While other nations are out there being innovative and bringing new ideas Italy is too busy digging up some ancient floor that has long been abandoned.

The same can be said for Italian food. Recipes that have not changed for years nor any new innovation. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? More like, they have their heads shoved up so far up their ass they can't recognize how boring, bland, and flavorless their food is. Disgusting deserts. Boring chocolate. Flavorless meats. They consider pepper to be the most flavorful/spiciest seasoning. If you had one pizza or pasta dish, you've, literally, had them all. The only thing Italians are good at are bread and cheese, and that's it.

Until Italy decides to stop clinging on to the past and move forward their food nor their nation will ever achieve anything remotely akin to true greatness.

>>14280785
I make a great vegan carbonara

>>14280785
I went to a pizzeria once that had fabulous pizza, but someone I was with wanted Chicken Parmesan, had a hankering for it for like weeks.

So the chicken Parmesan comes, and it's literally a frozen Tyson's chicken patty with pizza sauce and mozzarella on it.

Oh man, he was so pissed. I think it's the only time he ever sent something back

>>14283989
Why do Yuros serve fries with fucking everything?

>>14280785

>>14281365
When I was in kindergarten I would always add ketchup at the center of my pizza and fold it in half

>>14280785
Shrimp scampi

>>14282642
White liberals deserve to be dismembered by an angry mob of niggers

>>14290749
> The same can be said for Italian food.
While you were correct in the first part of the post you lost it all when you wrote about food, really some uneducated post.

> Recipes that have not changed for years nor any new innovation
Recipes did change. dishes like carbonara and so are less than 50 yo which are not that old gastronomically speaking.
Also the whole italian cuisine change and adapt but in a sensible way while maintaing the identity of a dish.
What kind of evolution other country had, aside from usa which didn't really have a cuisine in the first place?
The whole evolution I see in other country is more "whatthefuckareyoudoing", like candy bacon and such, or just importing dish from other countries.

> they have their he> ads shoved up so far up their ass they can't recognize how boring, bland, and flavorless their food is
Yes, so boring it is the most exported cuisine in the world.
Also I can't even imagine what you could mean by "boring". If you can't enjoy a simple spaghetti with tomatoes there's something wrong with your palate. it's cool, but don't try to blame the cuisine for your childish palate.

> Disgusting deserts
Like tiramisu, cannoli, sfogliatella, cassata?

> Boring chocolate
Italy doesn't make chocolate. To be completely correct, siicily has a very traditional chocolate product (modica chocolate) which is a really old way to prepare chocolate (skip the conching phase). I prefer my chocolate to be sandy instead of melting

> Flavorless meats
The only almost on point part. But this only applies to muscles because on the other category Italy btfo every other country
> cured meat: Prosciutto crudo, prosciutto cotto, salame, capocollo, coppa, culatello, bologna, pancetta, guancial bresaola just to name the most known
Being a old poor country, Italy has a very strong and deliciuos traditions of offals preparations (cow stomach, spleen sandwich and so on)

>>14290749
> They consider pepper to be the most flavorful/spiciest seasoning.
No, the spiciest seasoning is red pepper, Calabria has a strong fetish on red peppers, and generally they are spicier to me than other famous red peppers I tried.
Pepper isnt' considere flavorful, i don't know where did you get that.
Common spice used in Italy are: saffron, sage, oregano, pepper, red pepper, mint, parsley, wild fennel, thyme.
It's on par with every other country if not more, unless we are talking about india

> If you had one pizza or pasta dish, you've, had them all
pizza is a regional dish and pasta is a center/south thing. All the other region have whole cuisine without pasta and pizza. And even south italy the dishes that have pasta are less thatn the one that has it.

> The only thing Italians are good at are bread and cheese
Italy is top 3 in almost every category of food.

> Until Italy decides to stop clinging on to the past and move forward their food nor their nation will ever achieve anything remotely akin to true greatnes
You are wrong about the food, italy did and it is doing great. aside from food, history, education and healtcare, you're right tho

Carbonara is better with garlic

Italians and Sicilians are black. You only became white because of the civil rights movement.

>>14280789
Chinese people invented pizza? That’s weird since they didn’t have cheese.

I go for onion rings pizza

>>14290988
Or tomato sauce, since tomatos are from the Americas.

>>14290988
Forgot pic

>>14290999
>pizza is a sandwich
the horror

>>14290972
fuck whites. You'll be extinct soon.

>>14282734
Ik this is bait but just for future use against morons, consider that for their view to work theyd need to say with a straight face that if you cooked pasta in seawater in one pot and tapwater in another that theyd taste identical afterwards

>>14280785
Pizza originated from Africa, which in a way makes sense that Italians claim credit since they're also black.

Ann Margret is hotter than Sophia Loren

>>14284123
Doesn't make that much of a difference, since Italy is Rightful Spanish clay.