/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14264988
You are 100% correct.

t. work at bottling plant

You need to dilute alcohol with water if you want to combine it with cream or dairy.

you sure the yeast isnt just crawling back to life and if left alone for quite some time it will form into pilsbury?

Will it curdle half and half or cream though?

>>14265021
Yes, that too. Not a ton, but it's noticeable and not pleasant. I don't get why so many soiboi types online keep claiming that this reality does not happen.

Why are you using milk as chaser?

>>14265058
Is this the context? Is this thread abotu white russians?

>>14265075
Yes I first noticed this when drinking white russians when my stupid friends decided it was the greatest after watching the big lebowski. The curdles bothered me but I kept my mouth shut because my friends all thought it was godly.
Years later (I'm old) I randomly added vodka to milk and it curdled again and reminded me of this. I tried a more expensive brand and the same thing happens. But again, reddit type people online keep saying this does not happen. Shit like this can make you feel crazy like you are the only one who notices it, so that's why I posted this. It does happen and you can try it yourself and confirm. Maybe other people just can't notice it, but man the texture is not nice in your mouth.

>>14265058
I used to drink taaka vodka and use milk as a chaser. The milk helped calm my stomach

>>14264988
I make a brandy cream sauce at the place I work and have tried every possible combination of adding things in different orders/amounts, different heats, different mixing techniques, and yet sometimes the cream curdles or the sauce breaks and other times it comes out perfect, and I've yet to figure out any pattern. It's such a simple thing, but nothing has ever frustrated me more, or made me feel so inadequate as a professional cook.

>>14265127
That's the other thing that bothers me. People keep answering that you should add things in this or that order, yet it doesn't seem to make a difference, not for me anyway. The curdling keeps happening.

>>14265092
>>14265144
Milk curdles when the pH gets too high. Alcohol is acidic, while the amount of fat in dairy will inhibit curdling. So the answer is that you're probably using too much alcohol with too low-fat a milk. A White Russian made to IBA guidelines will have ~24% ABV, assuming one uses Kahlua and 80 proof vodka, at a 5/2/3 ratio of vodka, coffee liqueur, and dairy.

>>14265234
>the answer is that you're probably using too much alcohol with too low-fat a milk.
I'm probably not using your ratio, but it seems like the higher the fat content, the more curdling occurs. I've made white russians with half and half and tye curdling seemed worse than with whole milk. I'm sure this can be avoided with less alcohol (they make premade white russian stuff after all), but I don't want to sprinkle some vodka in kahlua and milk and call it a drink.
I only care about this because of the weird gaslighting aspect. I normally drink liquor mixed with some water.

>>14265234
ethanol is not acidic

>>14264988
Does it really take a Chemist to explain this?
Proteins are finicky pieces of shit. you can "boil" a raw egg in pure alcohol, much like you can in vinegar. The correct term is you denature the proteins because you destroy the coiling of the amino acids (largely tertiary and quaternary structure). At which point any given protein breaks is basically random, as the things are structures like a pajeet programmed it.

>>14265127
your best bet is Titration at that point, bro. You need a controlled volume, temperature, and known concentrations (make sure that the Vol%age is accuracte or just use denatured high%age alcohol)

>>14264988
does this effect the batter in, say, beer-battered onion rings? i like to add milk, but i never added beer as well

>>14266077
you can check that easily by pouring a bit of beer in milk (not the other way around), the samples can be small as long as the relavtive amounts check out. Milk is rather resilient, so I doubt anything happens.

>>14265364
For starters, this isn't gaslighting. Second, using those ratios will get you a White Russian that is half vodka by volume.

>>14264988
That's not what gas lighting means numb nuts.

>>14264988
anything sour like your sad moms neglected pussy would make milk curdle

>>14267109
Yeah isn't gas lighting when you're mean to your girlfriend?

>>14267180
It's manipulating someone into questioning their own sanity, usually in order to get them to agree with you when you're wrong.

>>14264995
But vodka is already diluted alcohol. How thin do you have to make it?

If you add an acid to milk, like vinegar or lemon juice, and boil it, it'll eventually curdle and you can squish it together and drain the liquid out and have home made cheese! Delicious!

>>14264988
When I make creme de lemoncello I always reduce the cream to about 1/3 of the starting volume. Then I rest the milk in the fridge until it is cool and slowly whip the everclear into the cream syrup.

>>14265098
Milk does absolutely nothing to "calm muh stomach" you fat fuck you just imagined it so you could fatten yourself with more milk.

yogurt

trust me

>>14267109
>>14267076
It is, though probably accidental. Do a google search for this and you'll get a bunch of "upvoted" idiots telling you this doesn't happen. Incorrect crowd-think is a form of gaslighting and it should be called out.

>>14266068
Thank you for a real explanation on this matter.

>>14267076
Also, I've more or less used that ratio and still get curdling. I've never used cream before, but I've tried half and half and it doesn't stop this effect. I love how you idiots can fuel the dumbest shit as "consensus answers" when it's actually wrong. That's the point of this post.

>>14265234
>Alcohol is acidic

>>14267773
Ethanol behaves as if it was somewhat acidic, although it is neither acidic nor basic in the strictest sense.

>>14267784
>Ethanol behaves as if it was somewhat acidic
It donates hydrogen ions to its surroundings?

>>14267193
Gaslighting is specifically when a group of people do that, not a single person. So OP's use of the term is actually correct.

>>14267875
Yes, iirc.

>>14265234

>alcohol is acidic
>a high pH means acidic

bruh I hate to break it to ya