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>>14071622
You must be 18 years of age to post here. Back to r*ddit

>>14071622
High IQ post

>>14071606
Aahhh the french champagne

>>14071636
jesus what a fucking absolute fucking faggot fuck you are jesus fuck you are so fucking proud to be 22 years old aren't you you fucking faggot suck dick

>>14071606

Out hur we drink Mogen David Electric Melons

>>14071606
If champagne were actually better or distinct enough to warrant its higher price, it would not require government intervention to protect the use of the name. Spend your money on other sparkling wine instead.

>>14071811
Go slurp some prosecco in your loft, faggot.

>>14071809
i can already imagine what this tastes like coming back up

>>14071811
what's to stop an unscrupulous vitner from carbonating bad chardonnay and labelling it champagne to sell it for 10 times the price?

>>14071790
why are you acting like this

>>14072106
this is a good thing. the name "champagne" will eventually be devalued/meaningless due to the business scumbags ripping people off, and then *eventually*, wine will be priced according to its genuine quality. people will vote with their dollars and the market will eventually regulate itself (more effeciently than with government intervention)

>>14071606
I don't know why you support the genuine champagne industry. It's more expensive but isn't better. Kind of like Parmesan. Method de waste money.

If that happens you only buy one bottle and you don't tell everyone it was great. People buy based upon taste and reputation.
And there's nothing stopping the French from producing shit wine in the champagne region and selling it for 10 times the price.
It's actually because of that that regions are meaningless. You can't just buy the same varietal and region as a bottle you've liked before and expect a good experience.

>>14072130
So just buy sparkling wine now and ignore champagne. Everyone else can buy the traditional quality controlled product.

>>14072339
>Method de waste money.
I chuckled.

>>14071606
Champagne is probably not worth it under $40. Sure, it will taste somewhat different from other sparkling wine regions, but the quality won't be there. At that price point you're mainly paying for the Champagne name, not grape quality or quality winemaking.

Buy sparkling wine from a less prestigious region instead. For example, sparkling wine from the Australian states of Victoria or Tasmania is probably better for the price.

>>14071811
Champagne probably produces the best sparkling wine in the world and some of it is very distinct.

>>14071811
lmao what a fucking idiot you are

>>14072106
The fact that it tastes different. Am*rican producers bank on the fact that the average wine consumer here buys wine as a one-off purchase to act like "rich people" during a special occasion meal, so most Am*ricans won't notice or care. Moreover, if you point out the fact that there are readily obvious taste differences they will get angry and defensive and start screeching about "innovation" which is Am*rican for stockholm syndrome.

>>14072130
Government regulation is only one of the reasons why the Champagne brand is so valuable. The Champenoise are active in suing people themselves, which holds up the value. Perhaps most importantly is the marketing as a status good.

I don't agree that allowing people to commit fraud is an acceptable way of making sure wines are price according to quality. Consumers often don't have the time to investigate wines properly to ascertain quality, nor can you completely until you actually drink the wine.

If we applied the same argument to regions like Burgundy that more consistently produce better wines, consumers would not be able to trust that buying Burgundy would get you a quality wine.

>>14072339
Depends on the wine. The best Champagnes probably aren't met in quality by anywhere else in the world.

>>14073879
Not everyone is wealthy enough to be able to buy multiple Champagnes to make sure that one of them isn't just bulk negociant wine trucked in from the Macon.

>>14071785
>french champagne
That's redundant.

>>14073945
tongue my anus

>>14073945
Well excuuuse me.

>>14073955
Not champagne. I can't believe this is even legal.

>>14073970
It says so on the label though.

>>14073970
You can do whatever you want in america, and consumers will zealously defend their right to be lied to

>>14073970
Glad that the chinese steal american jobs. Seems just fair.

>>14073955
>California
If it's not from the city of Champagne, France then it's not fucking champagne.

champagne snob here
probably J Lassalle

>>14071785
hasalwaysbeencelebratedforitsexcellence

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>>14074078
This. I don't make the rules. It's named after a city. If it's not from that city, it's not champagne.

11 bottles of Miller High life: the champagne of beers!™

Pol Roger

>>14074154
My grandfather gave me a bottle of that and I had it with a bunch of friends for my birthday. Was pretty good.

>>14072112
He’s probably Muslim or Mormon.

>>14073970
*Cries in baguette*

>>14074224
Meanwhile, in America...

>>14074078
People like you are what's wrong with the world.

>>14074310
It's the truth. Champagne has to be from champagne.

>>14074284
rent free

>>14074343
No, that's just for the French to call it champagne. The rest of the world calls anything made that way champagne because that's what champagne actually is. Things are not defined by where they are made, they are defined instead by what they are.

>>14071811
this
frogs SEETHING

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>>14074084

If you drink anything but beer youre a pussy and id fucking kill you in a single punch to the forehead

>>14074399
verpiss dich frog

>>14074375
fl*overs: LMOA you can't just have sexual attraction to other people with the same genitals as your own, I sexually identify as an attack helicopter!!~!

Also fl*overs: How can places be real if maps aren't real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

>>14074352
Not how that works, champ.
You implied protected appellations are a French thing only, I demonstrated otherwise.

>>14072106
his address?

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>>14074403
>He thinks Im kidding
I could fuck you up

the only good thing to come out of california is its wines. probably because there's a bunch of non-white people there just like france.

>>14073970
>oh no my precious brusselsprout juice is being frauded by the english language adopting brusselsprout juice as the term for bubbly brusselsprout juice because we politicised our brand "brusselsprout juice" too hard
Go whine about kleenex and frisby.

>>14074409
classic swarthy med manlet

>>14074426
It's grape juice not brussel sprout. Do you even know what wine is?

>>14074431
call it whatever you want.

>>14074443
You can't there's food standards.

>>14074454
mostly because you meme'd your meme too hard.
if you would have just made a great product that other people can't replicate (in a meaningful way, not by legal loopholes saying the wine wasn't brewed on a tuesday after being fermented in someone's idea hole for 34 minutes 4 seconds in the state of on the moon) then you wouldn't have the problem of cheap knockoffs cropping up or they would be identifiable as clearly not a gucci bag.