/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13921870
Stop trying to stir up shit anon.
You and your reddit spacing can go back to the bullshit website you advertise.
pic related, the amount of times I'd like you to go fuck yourself.

>>13921870
Fertilizer

i think the idea is we grow human grade food instead of animal feed that occupies the same land.

>>13921896
When you grow corn for humans it has a stalk. When you produce soybean oil for humans it creates soymeal.

Where are the vegan recipes that make use of these waste products left over from production for human use?

>>13921929
you realize you dont have to EAT everything, the byproduct can be used in mulch. Why do meat eaters always need to argue against vegan lifestyle????

>>13921870
Honestly that's not too far off from some of the disgusting food vegans make.

>>13921954
is that a museli mix?

>>13921870
Did you know that you can be vegan without eating soy?
Are you going to think I'm a hypocrite if I don't eat the roots of my leek? Do you eat them?
Next time you eat meat, don't forget to chew the bones and cartilage.

>>13921937
You have to eat it unless you want to cut down more forests to grow more soy and corn. Vegans claim we could use less land by eating all these waste products ourselves instead of feeding it to animals.

I'm just wondering where are the vegan recipes that use these waste products? Vegans are constantly saying we should just eat it all ourselves instead of using animals to upcycle it to edible food. So are vegans pracicing what they preach?

Where are the vegan recipes using waste products and crop residues?

>>13921975
What vegan crop doesn't produce any waste?

>>13921977
>Vegans claim we could use less land by eating all these waste products ourselves instead of feeding it to animals
No, they claim we could use less land by just eating the crops. We grow 10x more crops than we need to feed animals

>>13921989
No, animals eat waste products left over from crops produced for human use.

>livestock rely primarily on forages, crop residues and by-products that are not edible to humans

>If not consumed by livestock, crop residues and by-products could quickly become an environmental burden
https://www.cgiar.org/news-events/news/fao-sets-the-record-straight-86-of-livestock-feed-is-inedible-by-humans/

>>13921997
And also the crops themselves. You seem to have the idea that we grow enough to feed humans and only the waste products are used for animal feed. No, we grow a lot more than humans would eat because it takes a lot of food to grow a cow, not just the byproducts of human-scale sustainability

>>13922023
Cattle produce more edible food than they are fed. MORE crops would be needed, not less, if they were removed from the food supply.

>For example, because they rely on grazing and forages, cattle need only 0.6 kg of protein from edible feed to produce 1 kg of protein in milk and meat, which is of higher nutritional quality. Cattle thus contribute directly to global food security.
https://www.cgiar.org/news-events/news/fao-sets-the-record-straight-86-of-livestock-feed-is-inedible-by-humans/

Again I'm just asking for some vegan recipes that can turn inedible waste into high quality food like animal agriculture does. Vegans are good people so they wouldn't be lying, right? They must be practicing what they preach.

I'm just having a hard time finding those vegan recipes that use crop residues and by-products.

>>13922023
What do you think happens to the edible parts of the crops grown “specifically” for animals? They go to human food production. So we have more food than we need while also having enough to feed livestock. Looks like we’re winning.

>>13922056
>Cattle produce more edible food than they are fed
70-85% of soy grown is used to feed livestock, so before you veer completely away from the point I made, just realize the ecological impact of having to farm that much more food, because they don't just eat the scraps of what we're already growing. You accept that much, right?

>>13922056
>>13921889

>>13922090
That's because only 20% of the plant is oil, anon.

>>13922090
Were you illiterate before veganism or did that happen after your brain degenerated due to lack of nutrition?

>cattle need only 0.6 kg of protein from edible feed to produce 1 kg of protein in milk and meat

We grow fewer crops thanks to animal agriculture. Not more.

>>13921937
shut the fuck up, faggot.

>>13922090
Why do people take shit info and run away with it because it makes them feel good?
Ignore the factual evidence that the VAST majority of cattle feed is useless for human consumption, let's say it WASN'T. What the FUCK would be the cost of meat? Absolutely not $4/lb after all the middle-manning the USDA has in place. This rhetoric is pure nonsense.

>>13921870
why are meat eaters so soi-tier?

Not to endorse veganism--I eat meat myself--but I can't help but notice that other meat eaters are tripping over themselves trying to deny reality because they're actually that soi.

I eat meat bcuz it good n shiet. Yeah it's wasteful also it tastes good

>>13923620
Why do left wing NPCs culturally appropriate right wing memes? You're not fooling anyone.

>>13921870
>Vegans btfo.

Thank God this is finally over.

>>13921870
You don't make it from waste, you repurpose the land to grow edible crops you dipshit

>>13922056
>Again I'm just asking for some vegan recipes that can turn inedible waste into high quality food like animal agriculture does. Vegans are good people so they wouldn't be lying, right? They must be practicing what they preach.

Bre asking a vegan to answer a question is like pounding your head into a brick wall. They still won't tell me if milk is vegan and I've asked about ten thousand times.

>>13923687
Marxism will win.

>>13924076
Actually you don't. Thank God.

>>13924083

>>13921975
But the bones and the cartilage are the best parts. How else would I make delicious bone broth

>>13924111
Exactly on a good farm the bones don't go to waste. Sold for the marrow, sold for bone broth. Sold to Alex Jones. Sold to pet owners for dogs to chew on, or dumped onto compost piles to fertilizer the soil which is what bones do in the wild.

>>13924083

>>13921870

Vegans BTFO.

>>13921896

Every year crops originaly intended for human consumption get so fucked up by bad weather and insects, fungus or disease that they are no longer human grade food.

>>13921954
WTF am I looking at? Saw dust?

>>13921870
We can turn it into compost, biochar, or biogas. Fuck off with your bad faith argument.
t. meat eating permaculture chad that isn't afraid to admit animals are bad for the environment.

>>13924323
>Cows
>On grasslands
>That God literally made for cows

>Is bad.

>>13921888

Sweet Jesus, how old is that image? Take me back

>>13924374
The shit you're buying in the grocery store isn't silvipastured beef you fucking retard. It's industrially farmed and fed a diet of soy, corn, and garbage. God intended for large herds of herbivores to roam freely, migrating through the year. Not sitting in one pasture compacting the soil and leeching literal shit into the water. We can't raise the amount of meat we do now sustainably.

>>13924662
The shit you're buying in the grocery store aren't polycultured crops you fucking retard. It's industrially farmed and grown with a combination of pesticides and artificial fertilizers. God intended for diverse seasonal local crops to be farmed throughout the year. Not monocropping the same three or four foreign crops degrading top soil and leeching literal shit into the water. We can't farm the amount of crops we do now sustainably.

All this time and not one vegan is eating corn stalks, or fermented silage. One sane vegan has emerged- Lianne Nelson. Fucker got a kidney stone and quit Veganism flat out.

>>13925608
Some vegans get kidney stones, some get a blown appendix. What a lovely cult.

>>13921870
Vegan cheese is mostly industrial grade agricultural cellulose, actually.

>>13925614
most lose some or all of their teeth, it's disturbing, and the rapid aging makes them like toothless geezers or crones, or meth heads

>>13925689
I've always wondered what these vegans see in the mirror.

>Vegans told me this is the healthiest diet known to wamen.
>My teeth are falling out and I look like a living corpse

>>13925713
>i-i didn't need those teeth anyway, that's for dirty carnivores, my blender marm goes down smooth and is heavily lubricated with soy

>>13925747
With these vegans I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

veganism is a literal cult.

>>13921888
>>13924395
that girl used to have some bodacious fucking titties.

they're at navel level now.

>>13925764

>>13924662
All cattle in the US are pastured.

>>13925658
Actually it's made from cashews produced with slave labor

>>13924296
Kitty litterbox

>>13924077
>They still won't tell me if milk is vegan and I've asked about ten thousand times.
I think you've pounded your head into the brick wall too many times

>>13921954
It's muesli anon. It's a decent breakfast that's been eaten for ages.

/fit/ can eat my ass with the anti-vegan threads. I've never done anything to offend non-vegans and yet this tired shit is incessantly drawn out over and over. I'm sorry you care so fucking much about my lifestyle, it really is tragic how you will continue to seemingly with no end.

>>13924076
Growing edible crops for humans results in inedible waste like crop residues (e.g. corn stalks) and byproducts (e.g. soymeal from soybean oil production).

If veganism is a healthy diet why are you so mentally deficient you don't understand simple concepts like that? It has been mentioned many times in this thread. There must be something terribly wrong with your diet since your reading comprehension is this poor.

>>13921870
the only vegans that make sense are those who produce their own food and/or buy from local farms.

>>13925987
I'm still alive unlike vegan infants.

>>13921954
that actually doesnt seem bad for prepping, i wonder how long it keeps

>>13921954
LOL imagine looking at a big of fucking bird seed in the gardening isle and thinking “wow I could feed my family this for a month”. So glad I married a woman who loves to eat meat.

>>13926890
>I'm still alive unlike vegan infants.
Yes, and with the consequence of having smashed your head against a brick wall too many times

>>13924083
win what?

>>13921975
>Next time you eat meat, don't forget to chew the bones and cartilage.

This but unironically; we all should be chewing on the bones a bit occasionally, it is an excellent source of calcium and other minerals. And we definitely should be eating more cartiledge, collagen is one of the most lacking things in the modern diet.

>>13921956
It’s bulk bird seed from the garden isle.

>>13921896
Animal feed is made from the byproducts of plants grown for humans. Vegans are wrong. They're trying to justify their odd lifestyle choices by declaring it's the best practice for all of us. But they're lying and motivated by a need for revenge, to put down the people who made fun of their odd lifestyle choices. Humility will find them when the vegetable crops dry up and they are forced to eat milk bones.

>>13922023
I think it's hilarious how vegans, despite being continuously proven wrong, retreat to old arguments that have already been debunked. In this very thread the vegans willfully ignore points made to them and reassert failed lines of reasoning disproven by points presented. Vegans are a phase of idiocy. There can only be one, final solution to the vegan problem...

>>13927474
It's bizarre, isn't it? They are truly brainless. Their behaviour is like poorly scripted bots.

I can't figure out if it is their deficient diet that made them brainless or being brainless is what made them choose a deficient diet.

>>13921870
This thread is shit. Stop arguing with this guy, he knows his science is junk. Post images that trigger retarded carnivore trolls.

>>13927485
Most vegan recipes are made by poor people, people hate veganism so much that they change history by making things up

>>13927485
>purposely lowering yourself in the food chain
kek

>>13927577
You're not lowering yourself unless you're letting something eat you, retard. An omnivore can still be an apex predator. If anything, you're just removing yourself from the food chain.

>>13927485
Outside of improper application in threads like this, that infograph probably has uses. Meanwhile, my fire triangle PROVES that humans should eat meat. Checkmate atheigans.