/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Partisan pandering

>>13895604
Got a good cuban style rice and beans recipe???

It's because poor people are usually also lazy and stupid. They will buy McDonald's/spend all their EBT on chips and soda instead of getting things to cook

>>13895604
rice and beans make you fat, eat meat and veggies only you fat lard ass piece of shit

I guess you’ve never been truly poor. Making rice and beans at home means you have to:
Be able to buy rice and beans.
Have a home. With a kitchen.
Have the time to soak the beans and prepare the rice.
Have a fridge for left overs
Have running water
Have electricity

When you have no car, you’re working multiple part time jobs and your living situation is precarious, you don’t go shopping at the store for healthy food.

Poor people may have:
a lack of kitchen space and equipment
a physcially demending job which leaves them hungry for a quick fix
less education about nutrition and cooking
limited exposure to different foods depending on upbringing
high/stress low morale which makes it difficult to summon the will to cook
higher potential to be less concerned with the long term future and more concerned with getting through the day

I had a rough patch where I was poor enough to be worried about what I could eat that week (I had too much pride for government handouts), and Fast Food was for sure not the cheapest way to go. What people in America consider "poor" is generally not even poor. I have a hard time thinking someone with a roof, full kitchen, tv/cable, netflix, and even a damn car as poor. They are lazy and stupid.

>>13895695
the average "poor" person in America does have all those things.

Most poor people live in what is called a food desert, meaning the only food they have access to within a reasonable radius is McDonald's and corner store snacks.

>>13895695
>Be able to buy rice and beans.
20lbs of rice is like 9 bucks or something, I just bought that recently b/c of the apocalypse. 20lbs of beans is a bit more but not much.

>>13895712
Pretty sure most of them have access to Wal-Mart, which is really all you need for cheap, healthy food

>>13895721
It wouldn't be a food desert with a WalMart, you dumb puddle of shit.

>>13895604
Wouldn't it be that poverty and bad education go hand in hand and that the poorly educated wouldn't be as prone to know how to cook for themselves ?

>>13895712
what a crock of shit

>>13895721
The walmart near me doesn't even do groceries.

>>13895727
if you weren't a dumb bigot you'd realize that it's largely true in many poor urban areas.

>>13895695
I'm was a poor person in a third world country at our lowest we still had a simple stove and a few pans to cook. You are being a moron if you think eating out is in any away indication o f poverty. No matter what cock at hove is cheaper than eating out .

>>13895748
Thirdworld peasants aren't what we're talking about here.
We are specifically talking about the working poor in urban America where the market conditions provide them plenty of hot and ready McDonald's but very little in the way of, say, leafy green veg.

>>13895758
You guys have, like the other anon said, beans pasta and rice right? At that point you are just making excuses because you are too lazy too cook.
No matter what you can get canned or frozen veggies and eggs at a lot less than a macsandwich (tm) if you buy in large quantities, which is much more nutritive. For fucks sake recently we can even buy milk and bread at our gas stations. I refuse to believe america has less option than us.

>>13895604
I prepare my own food now, but when I lived with parents I didn't get along with, that wasn't a possibility most of the time. There also people with roommates and there are issues with sharing kitchen for food prep and food being stolen from fridge.

That said, I have also been in a homeless shelter briefly (never had to sleep on the street, thankfully), when I buy food I buy it from the grocery store because it's cheaper and more nutritious, I buy to eat right away things like bananas, discount hot meals, and I buy to store in case I don't want to leave my room (I was lucky that I got a single room too, due to anxiety and luck of the draw), I brought pitas and cucumbers.

But I have the benefit of a middleclass up bringing I think my mom has OCD and I got it from her, while that makes keeping employment difficult, I have problem getting along with people and being stress all the time makes me sick, OCD in some ways make me better at squirreling away food and preparing ahead. It's the short term day to day stuff I have problem with. Can't deal with a single tree when I'm spending too much time obsessing about the entire fucking forest.

>>13895778
Go look up what a food desert is and get back to me.
Also bear in mind you might be poor, but your cost of living is low.
American poors need more time and money than you to support themselves. Often they have three jobs and work 16-18 hour days just to pay rent.

>>13895796
The ironic thing is, if I had married almost straight out of highschool like one of my aunts who had similar mood disorder, I probably would have done as well as her. I would only have to get along with my husband and children would be as I raise them.

>>13895604
Because some people are fucking stupid, while others are trying to CREATE and maintain a dependent class for political purposes.

Give people "free" anything and they don't respect it exactly because it's "free".

>>13895800
I've seen and researched "food deserts" and you guys still have dollars store where they DO sell canned fish, frozen veggies, pastas, rice etc.
For fucks sake you guys sell fresh fruit and veggies on some gas stations.
There's no excuse for it. And your "poor" person live in a much higher quality of live than the average person here "cost of living is low" means nothing if you are not a foreigner and your salary is jack shit.

>>13895604
>Why do people explain a link between obesity and poverty by saying that fast food is "all they can afford"?
Because lifestyle changes are hard and it's easier to binge and watch Netflix than wash dishes and think :(

>>13895834
Aight well keep talking out of your ass about shit you know nothing about. It's this kinda shit why you're a poor peasant in the first place.

>>13895741
I'm a black guy that was born in Cabrini-Green and have been homeless before.

>>13895847
>t retard who tries to justify his and his people's laziness and fatness as something they have no agency in.

>>13895626
This is true, and I'm fat myself. I'm not too lazy to cook though, I just like eating too much

>>13895859
Boy those words really sting coming from some retard who'se never been here, doesn't know what a food desert is, and doesn't understand gas stations here mostly only sell Hostess cakes and candybars. Keep regurgitating shit you read on the internet, kiddo.

>>13895695
Shouldnt have bought that shitty Chinese lift kit for your twelve year old F-150 Bubba, maybe you could afford food then

>>13895604
Because fat people are shit and their fatness permeates every aspect of their being. They don't just eat fat, they think fat. The very idea of spending even an hour to prepare food to eat instead of just immediately stuffing their fat disgusting faces with everything they can reach is like a cross to a vampire to them.

>>13895614
yeah bro right here

>>13895871
You provided no counter arguments, if you can't get it fresh why not buy not frozen or canned?
Also I have been in the US for a couple of months, that is why i know you are full of shit. as you can tell by my ability to have internet i'm not in a poverty situation anymore.
>and doesn't understand gas stations here mostly only sell Hostess cakes and candybars.
Just because you are a fat fuck who is unable to look at anything else than the candy section does not mean they have nothing else. All gas station i went to at least had apples and msot of them had a lot more healthy shit including boiled peanuts (which is just weird). Also you have continence stores and you don't need to rely on gas stations.
Not only that all of those are excuses if you have a car or access to public transports of nay sort. I'ts not an uncommon sight to see grandmas with bags of grocery waiting near buss stops near the market to take it home since their family is usually too poor to afford a car over here.

>>13895913
>if you can't get it fresh why not buy not frozen
The same walmarts that don't have fresh food also don't have fridges for refridgerated food, retard. Also no one eats canned food because you third world shitters keep putting mercury in everything when you make it.
>All gas station i went to at least had apples
Oh, so you visited? Did you visit a food desert? Did you visit a food desert where the nearest walmart is a three hour drive away and the only gas station in down only has beer and cigarettes?
No? Then fuck off.

>>13895695
Don't forget:
Have the time to go shopping taking 3 bus transfers because you live in a food desert and the corner store only carries shit food
Have a way to reheat the food because you obviously can't afford a microwave

they treat junk food like its a drug

>>13895936
It is literally the only luxury item they can afford. Also it is a drug.

Practically all fat people are fat out of laziness.

They're too lazy to research food nutrition or good recipes and they're too lazy to buy the foods that require prepping/cooking beyond throwing it in the oven and they're sometimes even too lazy for that so they just go to the drive thru because they're too lazy to get out of their car and walk 15 feet to a counter to order.
https://nypost.com/2015/01/16/i-gained-43-pounds-to-prove-obese-people-are-lazy/

>>13895947
>new york post
Definitely an unbiased news source right there

>>13895913
I've seen a lot of beggars with "Need Money for Food" signs outside of supermarkets, especially in areas where the rich and poor are within walking distance or even the same neighbourhoods.

Sometimes they get some money from the odd duck, most walk on by on the some time correct assumption that they will spend it on drugs, booze, and smokes.

I bet those who really need food would get more respond if they directly list on their signs for things like: "Please give me some food I'm hungry, canned fish, fruits and grains I can carry home in my backpack, thank you very much!"

>>13895957
Yeah, it's shit, but the article isn't their normal type of shit.

>>13895925
>The same walmarts that don't have fresh food also don't have fridges for refridgerated food, retard. Also no one eats canned food because you third world shitters keep putting mercury in everything when you make it.
Oh if you have access to an Walmart than you are just a retard, they have fucking refrigerators in order to give you fat fuck you "one dollar frozen meals oh boy!!!!". I have no idea what you are thinking but walmarts have fresh veggies no matter where because IT"S A FUCKING WALMART! whchihc is why the studies are talking about about "a mile's distance from a supermarket without a car" because of course you fat fucks can handle walking a mile.
>"Also no one eats canned food because you third world shitters keep putting mercury in everything when you make it."
....you ar ejsut retarded mate, you buy american brands or Italian brands or some shit. You do know Italy is know to use under-payed African labor in order to make extremely cheap canned tomatoes right? It's so cheap in fact they dominate the African market so much nobody buys the African grown ones.You have those in america even if you suddenly claim you don't have canned veggies and beans.

>Oh, so you visited? Did you visit a food desert? Did you visit a food desert where the nearest walmart is a three hour drive away and the only gas station in down only has beer and cigarettes?
No? Then fuck off.
You know where you are talking about? you are not talking urban areas, you are talking about rural areas. And you know WHAT rural areas have that makes than rural? that is right farms... Now if you can't feed yourself "natural" ingredients" you know where you can get some food? that is right in farm. They have even better prices than supermarkets. Just something to think about.

>>13895983
WHat we do to help people over here is buy groceries and deliver to them just to make sure they are getting what they need. And some of those people sell those groceries at pennies at the dollar just to get booze and cigarettes while their children are fucking thin and hungry. It's one of the most disheartening things you can see while working on charity.

>>13895990
Yeah, it's the most pandering bullshit I've read in awhile. She's a journalist who has the time, money, and ability to gain weight on her own terms and then lose the weight by dieting and exercising to a degree that no poor person would ever be able to. Even the headline is condescending dreck, "to prove obese people are lazy", are you kidding me. This writer makes Gwyneth Paltrow look like an everyman, may god.

>>13895936
>they treat junk food like its a drug
>>13895939
>It is literally the only luxury item they can afford. Also it is a drug.

Our brain rewards us when we eat fats and salt, because these things are rare in nature.

Stayed in a homeless shelter once where people blow welfare when they get it at McDonalds, it's how the generational poor grew up. The ones who suffered a recent set back save up to get out and/or buy fruits at the nearby supermarket.

I ate the odd McDonald, but even with junk food I brought things that was a combo of shelf-stable and filling like cookies and individually wrapped cake.

Now that I have my own fridge, when ever I crave cake, I buy bananas, if I really really want ice cream, I buy avocados, cheaper when you buy a bundled bag, set on table, cut in half, scoop out seed with spoon, scoop out fresh with spoon, divide into smaller chunk with spoon, freeze - look ma no avocado hand!

>>13896012
You talk as if losing weight is just not eating less.
Which it is.

>>13895604
it's all bullshit. they want to make excuses because everyone has to be a fucking victim. fatties are only fat because some rich white guy in the cayman islands is oppressing them from his yacht.
>>13895695
shut the fuck up nigger. i lived in a god damned CAR for a year and i never got fat. if anything i lost weight. mainly i ate shit from the grocery store. used imitation crablegs a lot, good macros, cheap, no cooking necessary, tastes okay.

you know what i didn't eat? $20 buckets of KFC.

>>13896024
You've missed the larger conversation and are focusing on a small aspect of it all.

>>13895712
the american definition of "food desert" is 1/4 mile. a five minute walk in other words. i used to walk 1.5 miles each way to the grocery store and I didn't die. more excuses and victim complex whining.

>>13896031
>article is bullshit because girl has more resources to lose weight
>losing weight does not require more resources it actually requires less.
don't think i did.

>>13896036
Cool. How many people did you have to feed?

>>13895604
because not everybody is a complete hikikomori living by themselves like you are. some people have families to feed and quite honestly there isn't any way you can subsist off of rice and beans alone (even with dietary supplements).

>>13896012
>and then lose the weight by dieting and exercising to a degree that no poor person would ever be able t
You can literally lose weight by fasting you fat fuck. If you're really so helpless that you have to stuff your gullet, drink water and exercise before you eat in the mornings. It's really not hard, you just have excuses. lardass

>>13896042
The entire thread I meant, about poverty and privilege.

>>13896049
The projection, it's blinding!

>>13896008
and if those hungry children make it to adulthood or teenhood, they'll repeat the cycle, sire their own children for more welfare, spend it to spoil themselves because their parents didn't give a fuck about them why care for their children?

It is so depressing. I used to be a Left Plastic, I didn't want to judge, I remember defending a woman who got pregnant at the shelter and was rather careless about the future, I said, somebody have to produce future citizens, I didn't think back then then if she had successfully given birth (she ended up miscarrying), she's not going to raise a productive citizen, and the baby would probably have been born diseased or defective from alcohol so even adoption won't save it.

I've become more cynical since my stint in the shelter even though many people have been kind to me. I won't say I'm anti-charity, it helped me and it did help many who appreciated it, the majority of shelter users are in and out, but there are long term people who doesn't have any plan to leave at all beyond welfare baby or hook a man, and that's the WOMAN's Shelter, more well funded with more resources then what homeless men gets.

Having some social safety net exist is better than nothing, but where there is resource scarcity I'll just be more careful about where it goes.

Earthquake in Mainland China happened when I was young and got my first steady paycheque, I donated towards it, later I find out a majority of aid was snatched up by corrupted officials, even when a reputable charity accepted my money , the officials probably took it from the poor afterwards. Do-over I would have donated to a local rent bank or veteran charity.

>>13895712
>Most poor people live in what is called a food desert, meaning the only food they have access to within a reasonable radius is McDonald's and corner store snacks.

Is that because of evil corporations, or is it because the local clientele has a long established behavior of only buying junk food, so companies respond to the demand and try to meet the demand, as a business survival strategy?

>>13896086
Well we don't need to get into the entire history of redlining and white flight but there's a long history there.

>>13896058
>cry that you can't lose weight because poorfag
>noooo you're projecting reeee

>>13895931
I don't think any actual poor person has ever used the term "food desert"

>>13896110
The light, it's even brighter!
>>13896117
What's your point exactly?

>>13895849

>>13896049
>You can literally lose weight by fasting you fat fuck

You can also damaged your organs by losing weight too quickly, I think it happened to Margaret Cho. You can become malnourish long before you lose enough weight if you don't get enough nutrients (yeah, a lot of fat people are actually malnourish).

I haven't gone grocery shopping since the end of February, excepting some avocados and rubbing alcohol I brought right after a medical appointment at the beginning of March. I don't want to become a bigger societal burden I am now with my poor immune system, so I'm just staying inside and rationing.

I got dark circles under my eyes within the first week of staying in. I decided to eat twice a day, a big meal in the morning to give me energy, keep drinking tea in between to suppress my appetite, and a big meal at the end of the day so I wouldn't be too hungry to go to bed. I know it takes a while for the full signal to go to the brain, but I was hungry for hours after dinner - I was experiencing iron defiency.

Now I know to eat my iron fortified noodles without anything that has calcium in the morning, wait at least an hour before tea, and to eat calcium things for last meal. Still feeling a bit fuck up, but better.

>>13895847
White progressivism: the post

>>13896103
>white flight
wypipo are necessary for areas to have grocery stores? is this not essentially an admission that they are incapable of feeding themselves properly without intervention?

>>13895604
>Making rice and beans at home is cheaper and healthier.
Let me tell you as someone who was a super poorfag during the recession.
Poor people are working mentally and physically exhausting jobs. A lot of them working multiple.
You're working 8+ hours a day, and when you get home, the last thing you want is to spend the time to cook food then deal with the dishes after.
What you want is instant, cheap food that doesn't make you want to throw up afterwards. The time you spent not cooking food and cleaning up afterwards is precious time you can spend to try to unwind from your poverty induced anxiety.

>>13896132
>You can also damaged your organs by losing weight too quickly,
No you retard just eat vitamin supplements what the fuck?

>>13896125
My point being that urban poverty as a lived reality for brown people versus urban poverty as a mental construction of the well to do blue-voting white person are two distinct and largely non-overlapping things

>>13896150
How old are you, be honest. Either way you're much too old to be this racist.

>>13895604
>Making rice and beans at home is cheaper and healthier
yeah buts its kind of shit which is why hardly anyone actually does it on a regular basis

>>13896154
Again, you've lost me.

>>13896160
>no way man just eat rice, beans, and potatoes to pull yourself out of poverty.
>I could easily eat that way for a month, but I don't have to, so I won't try to see if it's feasible.

>>13896156
> white people move in
GENTRIFICATION BAD FUCK OFF WHITE PEOPLE BAD
> white people move out
WHITE FLIGHT WHAT THE FUCK FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!!!!
> white people stay
WHITE PEOPLE DEFENDING THE STATUS QUO WITHE PEOPLE BAD
how about YOU fuck off? white people, just like anyone else. cam move or stay as they please you disgusting piece of racist shit!

>>13896086
why dont' the people living in food deserts get a small business loan and open a grocery store?
hmmmm

>>13896160
>yeah buts its kind of shit which is why hardly anyone actually does it on a regular basis
You do know that that is the basis for Mexican cuisine right?

>>13896175
What a bizarre way you've chosen to spend your time.

>>13896132
>You can also damaged your organs by losing weight too quickly,
Oh gee ,you better stay a fat fuck forever then.

>>13896183
if they did that the fact fuck who only want to eat burger and fries would still not eat healthily and they would fail or change to suit their clientele.

>>13896187
I could say the same to you, except you are also a racist so you are worse.

>>13896103
>>13896156
>>13896187
Maybe if you knew anything you wouldn't be a racist yourself, searching for it where there is none so you don't have to reflect on yourself. You're the worst kind of person.

>>13896171
they could and maybe they did but its still shit by comparison. and I don't think doing it for a month is somehow going to 'pull them out poverty'

>>13896185
in third world mexico. when people in the west say they fancy mexican food they're not talking about a pissy little bowl of rice and beans

but whatever I've got to get to sleep. might respond tomorrow if either of you reply. or might not. we'll see

>>13896214
The greentext implied sarcasm my man

>>13896214
>in third world mexico
you mean real mexico?
I find it funny "poor" people think themselves as to good for traditional Mexican cuisine and ratter just be fat.

>>13895800
>Often they have three jobs and work 16-18 hour days just to pay rent
Sure is reddit in here.

At the end of the day there aren't really poor people in America compared to the rest of the world. Those in poverty are considerably wealthy in proportion to others and are able to afford masses of junk food.
There are of course genuine poor people that are struggling but if you're fat, fuck off you aren't poor.

>>13896160
>yeah buts its kind of shit
In what way? They're both good for you.

honestly nothing makes you fatter than red meat. Only time I was ever outside my average 160~ lb range was when I was eating steaks or sausages or hotdogs daily in the semester of college when I lived off campus.
Or it might have been all the alcohol.

>>13896160
>yeah buts its kind of shit
No it isn't you're a moron. There are literally thousands of ways to make rice and beans and many are fantastic.

>ITT: Boomers doing free shilling for the fast food & meat industries
You can literally get a month's worth of rice, lentils, and potatoes for $10.

That stuff is cheap but it isn't THAT cheap

>>13895702
This in a nutshell.

>>13895695
Listen, I’m not a “pick yourself up by your bootstraps” conservative. Poverty isn’t a choice and is self-perpetuating, but let’s not paint such a exaggerated picture of the poor. In America, unless you’re homeless (an obesity is the least of your worries), you probably have a fridge, and a stove. Cooking is possible and in fact the better cst-effective choice. In third world countries, where the poor are actually destitute and have much less of a social safety net than America, they still cook and obesity rates are much lower. Mexico is different because their diet is just abysmal.

>>13895712
This is such bullshit, I've lived in two different poor ass black neighborhoods in different parts of the country and in both areas there were plenty of places to buy real food and vegetables for cheaper than fast food and yet all my black neighbors were fat as shit. Ask me how I know you grew up affluent

>>13895604
>rice and beans
literally an overload of carbs for most modern Murricans. At one time it would have been healthy, but with all the other sugars/carbs people have been ingesting over the years this meal aint helping. Not saying portion control, healthy diet, and exercise are not the answer tho.

>>13895702
Poor people seem whiny and stupid as fuck.
Let's exploit them.

>>13895748
I know it's a weird concept to you, but in the US you can work all day at multiple jobs and still be too poor to afford to eat.

>>13896036
>the american definition of "food desert" is 1/4 mile. a five minute walk in other words

wtf really?

My nearest grocery store is 1.6 miles and I regularly walk 15 minutes there, who needs gym? I do buy things like bag of milk at the closer convienece store, it's like 6 bucks stead of 4 bucks something so I don't have to lug 4L for longer. I wish they would sell big bag of rice, wonder if I can talk the into it, they are asians so they can just eat what they don't sell anyways.

>>13897617
I seriously doubt that. Unless you are spending all your money on booze and crack or have 10+kids without being able to provide for them you should manage with the minimal wage on a normal city.

>>13895604
Well, anyone as big as the person in the OP is suffering some sort of trauma and using food as a coping mechanism. That being said, rice and beans are super carby and doesn't help OP's argument, at all.

Vegetables and meat are really expensive. You can only really afford those if you are not poor.

All posters in this thread should timestamp their stomachs. I guarentee I would not be surprised at the results.

>>13897638
Cost of living has been steadily rising while the last time minimum waged increased nationally was in 2008 to $7.25/hr (only reason I even remember this was my first job being $7/hr which was around that time). The types of people working those jobs likely aren't getting a full 40 hours.

>>13897638
The federal minimum wage is only $7.25 p/hour. That is chump change in the US. Even if you can get 40 hours you would be lucky enough if you can afford to pay your rent and bills with just that.

So when you have a less than $5 left with your paycheck your best option is the $1 menu from a fast food spot.

Have you ever been a grocers in a poor area?
Poor people are usually too dumb to tell what shit is good or bad, and because they miss essential things from they diet, they end up chowing down on carbs like that fatso tards they are

>>13897836
>So when you have a less than $5 left with your paycheck your best option is the $1 menu from a fast food spot
that is absolutely retarded you can buy a bag of beans a bag of rice a few eggs and frozen veggie with that. And that is assuming you only have gas station or convenience stores near you. You can feed yourself for days with that instead of getting a few burgers.
Fast food is not cheap, it's just easy.

>>13895604

>>13895604
I hate fat people too but eating just rice and beans will make you be obese and it's dumb that retards like OP here keep bringing up these points. If rice and beans were completely healthy, countries like Mexico and Brazil would not be struggling with high obesity rates.

>>13895626
its literally just this. people make it all too complicated

>>13895712
lmao nah nigga, niggas just be lazy and only eat tasty unhealthy shit

t. nigger

>>13898102
Obesity in Brasil has been proven to be linked with a deviation form the national diet . Several studies made by Brazilian nutritionists show that eating rice bean and a source of protein and a salad is ,essentially, the perfect diet.

>>13895931
>Live in a food desert because the whole area is full of poor people who don't buy real food to cook because they are too lazy and stupid, so the grocery stores all move away.

Because there is a link between poverty and laziness and laziness and fast food

>>13898214
What do you know about blacks? only the white man can tell you how things work! Now shut up and cry about how nothing under your control an everything happens to you like a good little ni.... i mean a good oppressed colored minority.

Friendly reminder that all this "woe is me, i'm so poor & tired gotta eat McDick's" shit is all whites/blacks. Literally the laziest groups of people. Every poor Mexican/Asian I know still seems to always find a way to make it fucking happen in the kitchen, some with large families.

>>13895695
Who's life are you describing? It's not yours.

>>13897836
Federal minimum wage is a pretty shitty example man. State minimum wage takes priority and if you live in the middle of fucking nowhere where your wage is legitimately 7.25, yeah, I don't think you're gonna be worried about eating or not when you live in your shack in the country that costs jack shit to live in.

I'm poor but also want to learn to make hella good food that will knock people's socks off, any tips?

>>13898357
learn how to make ramen with the basic packets. throw that salt packet away and use real stocks. Go from there

>>13898364
Hmm... I'll try...

Do you think I should invest in some nice cast iron cookware or is it a meme?

>>13895604
When you're poor, you are typically born and raised poor, with this "live fast, die young" attitude. Your parents are never around. You're not taught to cook. You're not well-educated. Drug addiction is very likely. You're always hungry as fuck. You get hooked on fast food young because a burger now means no hunger now. Being born in poverty is like having the ultimate tunnel vision. You can't even think about 30 minutes to an hour into the future because it's all about the now. If you've never had money, the concept of saving it is ridiculous and foreign. You need that money now because in a week you might get shot or your car breaks and then that money you saved is wasted. This type of thinking, plus general exhaustion from the labor you put in, means you live off garbage food.

The best way to combat poverty is education. When public schools are shut down in the area or struggling, you trap people in the poverty loop. Learning there's more to life than your shitty farm town or ghetto is how you get out and escape the poverty lifestyle and mindset.

>>13898384
DO you have ANY backing to those claims?

>>13895604
It's partly true and partly bullshit. The true part is that rice and beans takes time and effort. People exhausted from long hours or difficult work, or difficult life circumstances are going to have less time and energy to make food. And most people don't like plain food like rice and beans, so making food people would enjoy takes even more effort.

The bullshit part is that it's also about life skills and choices, but leftards don't want to admit poor people would ever make bad decisions or lack important skills because they just want to blame the system. When I recall growing up, I was really bored with my mums cooking but it was healthy food with lots of vegetables, no deep fried or ultra processed foods. This is the skill that middle class people pass onto their kids.

>>13895695
>Have a home.
If you're a hobo and not eating beans then you're doing it wrong. That's basic camp food.

>>13895604
but it's harder. They're not fat because they are poor, they are fat because they are lazy.

>>13898469
Rice and beans can be trivialized and produced in mass quantities before using. A cheap pressure cooker can even skip the soaking step for the beans.

If you store a bunch of single serve portions, you can just mix them together, add a sauce, another protein like a bit of steak or chicken, something on the side, and it's a full meal in minutes.

>>13896833
I loathe this perspective. We're not talking about what foods to avoid on top of a radically unhealthy diet, were talking about cheap, sustaining meals. Beans and rice is king. Sneak in some veggies and protein where you can, if you can, and you can be exceptionally healthy eating just that.
Carb overload, please.

>>13898484
almost every hobo is mentally ill

>>13898574
Everything is easy when you are good at it. I work with very smart people (at a tech company) and many of them know pretty much zero about cooking. If poor people were really good at picking up skills that even rich people find difficult, they wouldn't be poor in the first place.

>>13898583
OR you can buy 2 mcdoubles for 3 bucks at 1100 calories.

>>13898574
I keep hearing this about pressure cookers like instapots and dried beans. Can they fucking seriously skip the 24 hour soak?

>>13898602
It's better not to, I think, but they turn out at least acceptably good doing that. The difference it almost unnoticeable for really small pulses like lentils.

This entire board is fat cope.

God damn, this board has potential but it's just fat fucks not knowing anything about fucking anything related to food.

>>13898595
t. hobo joe

people are poor in part because they're fat
unhealthy eating habits are expensive

>>13898606
What's the process then? 24 hour soak then instapot? Is that still superior to just boiling?

>>13898745
Usually 12 is fine. Depends on the beans, though. Sort, rinse, and soak. Skip sort if you know they don't have grit or crud in them. You can also pre-boil them to speed it up and then cool them down and let them soak for 4+ hours.

It's a matter of taste and the kind of bean.

Pressure cookers force liquid into the bean and so you can skip the step but a lot of people also just soak for 4 hours instead of a full overnight soak.

Or, again, pre-boil them, bring them to boiling, remove from heat, let sit for just an hour. Then pressure cook. Small red and black beans cope with this just fine.

>>13898574
>A cheap pressure cooker

>>13895604
Rationalization.

>>13898819
Whoever had that happen is almost certainly a fucking retard. Even cheap ass pressure cookers have blowout valves that will prevent that. Unless you fucked with them somehow they just don't do this.

>>13898574
Please soak your beans.
You risk massive farts otherwise.

>>13895604
poverty is a covariant. the cause is edumacation.

>inb4 no it's bcuz theyre such fat, lazy, slovenly niggers

>>13895604
As it was probably said, extreme obesity goes hand in hand with other bad shit. But in short, either obese people are really bad at making any decisions, or they just don't care because of depression and general laziness.

>>13895808
what stopped you? intelligence?

>>13898918
Farting is good for you though

>>13898449
Its a well know fact that poverty is a mentality

>>13898574
Just buy canned beans, just as healthy and they allow you to skip that terrible soak time. In my country canned is the default. I would pronably have to go to a special shop to buy dry

>>13895604
the argument is that poor people often have to spend time at 2 jobs in addition to supporting children and they don't have time or energy to cook.

the reality is that this is total bullshit and fucking poorfags love making excuses. What, do I somehow have more time in a day than you? Every person on earth has the same 24 hours to spend and I'm just as busy as you but I can still eat healthy on a budget because I'm not lazy and retarded, fucking dumb fat peasant

>>13895702
>less education about nutrition and cooking
>high/stress low morale which makes it difficult to summon the will to cook
>higher potential to be less concerned with the long term future and more concerned with getting through the day

This x1000. I come from a low income household and although I'm ok via a combination of good parenting, good looks, and being a little stupid, my whole family is made of broken people. Poverty is crushing and learning to cook means navigating a whole lot. For example, my grandma is an autist but makes enough to afford fast food due to being a boomer, while my mom and aunt have scant incomes and need to keep her happy to have a roof over their heads in a HCOL area. So all three of them are fat.

One other thing is pretentiousness. When I do make my own food while visiting, they think it's cute but gross. For example using coconut oil to fry an egg when out of butter, they'll pass because that's not supposed to go together. Having their food sold to them as happy meals means they have zero education on what goes into it and need to buy 50 ingredients for every new dish they make just to burn it.

>>13895604
Because most ppl don't have the capacity to cook a meal for an entire family multiple times a day every week while working a full time laborous job

>>13895748
Why be you homeless, bwana? Just build a house for you and your wife.

American man is so stupid sometimes.

>>13895849
>poor in dense urban area
>food deserts don't exist

Simmer down nigger, the grownups are talking.

>>13896454
Beans and grains have benefits, but they also contain phytic acid which cancel absorbtion of other minerals. They should be eaten in moderation, or at different points of the day from nutrient dense meals. A lot of food cancels absorbtion, while food in general becomes less nutrionionally bioavailable. It's still easy to be malnourished even if you eat reasonable meals.

>>13899076
It isn't bullshit and you wouldn't know. If you time to save that image and post on 4chan you definitely don't know what's it like to have 2 jobs and no time.

>>13895886
Yes. There are many skinny people with this mindset too, who will be fat as soon as the slightest career or metabolism change tips the scales.

>>13898590
/thread

Fat people are lazy fucks who want excuses.

>>13899147
He specifically said food deserts in urban areas. I grew up in urban areas and there are no food deserts. Also that's very rude calling me a nigger.

>>13896046
not my fault someone else chose to have moutbs to feed
this outbreak was always a possibility

>>13898376
It is a meme unless you're cooking stuff like steak or chicken.
Like the other anon said, start out small. Learn how to make easy stuff like carbonara.

>>13899351
This.

Looking at all the threads on this board there seems to be an extremely large percentage of fat fucks. Too bad, I think a Cooking board on 4chan would have been cool.

>>13899255
Is this what fat fucks tell themselves to cope with what they are? No, skinny people don't just suddenly blimp out.

The truth is that poor people use junk food as a coping mechanism for their poverty, same thing with cigarettes and alcohol. Even if they know it’s bad for them they prefer it to living in poverty sober.

>>13895681
eating too much makes you fat retard
eat too much meat and veggies and you'll get fucking fat

>>13895695
>>13895702
imagine being this gay

>>13902277
I think some foods are easier to overeat than others though. Like yeah in theory you COULD eat too much steamed broccoli and gain a ton of weight but in practice it'd be pretty hard to consume that much food.

How many people actually live rice and beans only?

>>13895695
I can get a hamburger and a coke for $2 at the mcdonald's on the way home from work. OR, I can walk a mile out of the way to walmart after working on my feet all day. Maybe I take the bus instead and pay the $2 in fare that would have covered dinner anyway. It's cheap, it's fast, it tastes good. I don't need a bunch of pots and pans and tupperware and knives and shit adding hundreds of dollars in gear. Sure rice and beans would be a tiny bit cheaper, it also taste like shit and takes an hour to cook on top of going to the store. I can spend a bunch of money on a kitchen set, transportation, take a bunch of time, to make much shittier slightly cheaper food OR I can just get a burger, enjoy my food and have more time to relax at home after.

Cooking at home is cheaper when you have money. When you have a car and a full kitchen with kit and seasonings ready to go. When the food you're used to getting out is expensive as fuck to begin with. Yeah, it's cheaper to cook a $12 steak at home compared to a $32 plate at the steakhouse. That's not what we're talking about here.

Because they want an answer that them feel better about themselves, either because they're obese too or because they're a authoritarian subhuman that hates personal responsibility.
Cooking doesn't take that long unless you make it so, plus there's plenty of ways to do bulk prep and have leftovers. There's lots of cheap shit that you can prepare quickly that isn't high in calories either, though it may not be healthy in any other sense.

This misses the real point though, which is that fast food doesn't make you obese. It's unhealthy, but you can easily make low calorie choices and still consume it regularly without becoming overweight.
No matter who you are or where you live, obesity is caused by a total lack of self control, and nothing else. And people like that deserve absolutely zero sympathy and financial assistance from others.

>>13902848
>>13895626

How do I make lentils and split peas taste good? I heard lentils were healthy but they don't taste like anything

>>13904854
They just do if you have functioning tastebuds. But as you don't, try boiling them until soft then pan frying them with a shitload of spices.

>>13899121
desu I stuggle to find easy dishes recipes. As in <20 mins total cooking+prep time, all ingredients must last at least 2 weeks before going bad and no more then 4-6 ingredients per meal including seasonings. Also cleaning pots and utensils shouldnt take more then 5 mins and of course have it nutritionally interesting + below 2 bucks per serving.

>>13905112
Go to the library and read Jamie Oliver books.

I read a story were a dude was living off ramen noodles and peanut butter for 2 months
and my first thought was that baked potatoes would be cheaper

>>13905112
youre gonna have to lower at least one of your standards

>>13905122
true, but that are the limitations when you want to compare to fast food to a regular fast food person.

There are some recipes that fit these descriptions. Mostly one-pot stews, spreads and salads.

>>13895695
This doesn't mean you're poor, it means you're homeless haha.

>>13896623
rational argument... not extremist... non-confrontational... you sure you're on the right website?

i dont believe there isnt a single convenience store or gas station in the poorest communities and worst food deserts that doesn't sell cans of beans. 60 cents for 350-400 calories. add some butter for a few extra cents and its still less than 75 cents for 400-500 cals of beans. add 20 cents of rice and for under a dollar and 15 fucking minutes you can make 1000 Calories of filling food that's better for you than McDonalds or some other shit food.
Food desserts cant possibly be so bad that there isnt anywhere to buy rice and beans

>>13905112
puttanesca
daal
pasta with tomato sauce and red lentils
refried beans with chips and salsa
egg salad
chili sin carne
chili con carne if you don't decide to wait two weeks between buying and cooking your meat
tomato soup
onion soup
potato leek soup
chicken noodle soup
cornbread
endless variety of stew
countless dishes cooked in any asian or african country

don't americans have access to getting all this stuff delivered to them through amazon? is there something I don't know about that makes it impossible to just order a bunch of mostly non-perishable food every two weeks?

>>13905112
Why don't you just kys already. You'll be doing us a favor by cleaning up the gene pool.

>>13895925
show me just 1 place in the US where you don't have any stores that sell groceries within 3 hours, this map only goes to 2006 and walmarts are fucking everywhere.

>>13896572
>lentils
gross.
just today I got 40lbs of chicken drumsticks at $0.40 per pound, potatos were 50lbs for $17, people who can't afford to eat need to get on welfare or food stamps and then use that money to get out of the hole they are in, but instead they just get lazy and dig deeper, friend of mine owned apartments which the government would pay the rent for and the people were 90% white trash meth heads, the other 10% were oil riggers who aren't much better but at least they paid rent.

>>13900539
at least I have the reasoning of actually being unable to work out, most I get is working my dough for arm strength.

>>13895993
>a mile's distance from a supermarket without a car
>equal 1,6km
That's just 20 minutes of strolling. Jesus Christ.

>>13895604
They're poor because they spend all their fucking money on 5 fucking big macs a day to satiate their lack of discipline.
Statistics can easily be exploited.

>>13895993
The Walmart nearest me doesn't sell fresh groceries, but there's a shop rite next to it that does, so while unlikely it's still possible

>>13895712
Some parts of my city are considered a "food desert" because apparently people cant walk fifteen minutes down the street (It would still take ten in a car due to ineffecient traffic signaling).
>But how are they going to get it home!?
With a fucking 15$ walmart cart
>but what if they cant afford it
they can smoke weed and drink every day why cant they afford good quality food?

>>13895695
go to a soup kitchen or food cabinet then you whiner
>I literally NEED to buy fast food

>13902848
<kitchen set

Yeah okay dude we get it there’s 10,0000 obstacles between you and being a reasonable adult that cooks his own food.

>>13906811
Yea. Delivery windows being full. Because of hoarders.

>>13895604
true poverty is in the mind anon. not in the money.

>>13905112
Lentil curry
Vegetable stir fry
Vegetables + meat + spices or herbs
Serve it all with rice
My dad used to do fried potatoes with bacon and onions with salad or buttermilk as a quick meal
Any kind of soup. Throw some vegetables, a carb (potato, beans, noodles) some meat.
Pasta with sauce. Tomato + meat or mushrooms + bacon
Lentil stew. You can throw a sausage in there
Udon noodle soup or Japanese curry, if you have the ingredients
Pan fried fish with spices. Fish gets cooked very fast
When it's hot a tuna salad. Tuna, tomatoes, greens, nuts, oil + vinegar dressing
If you have a slow cooker you can used it to make some food that will be ready, once you are home

>>13895604
It's just ignorance. Poor people think going to grocery store means buying grapes and vegatables they don't eat rice and beans.

>>13907426
so everyone in the us was skinny until three weeks ago?

>>13895604
Poverty is literally just laziness, no desire to improve ones standing and shit money managment.

That's why they do fast food for every meal

I am 500lbs ask me anything

>>13907595
no

>>13907595
how tall are you?

>>13895604
>Why do people explain a link between obesity and poverty by saying that fast food is "all they can afford"?
Telling people something is their own fault fell out of fashion in the last two decades

>>13895604
i never understood this meme either.
A basic meal from your typical McDonalds or whatever is about $10 and hardly fills you. A fatguy needs to spend $20 or $30 at McDonalds usually to get their fix.
A frozen meal is $6 or 7.
Buying a piece of meat and 2-3 veggies for roasting costs like $4.
A packet of instant pasta, canned spaghetti or bean is under $1.

Poor people are skinny.
Fat people are just lazy cunts. They'd rather drive 20min to the drive thru to spend $30 on dinner than spend $4 or 5 to spend 20min cooking something at home.

>>13907769
6.5 feet

>>13895604
They don't want to take responsibility for their life choices + some being too stupid to do simple math to calculate it + some people were told that their whole lives and have never thought to investigate so they just eat what they were raised on

>>13902848
>>13904313
I can get 2500 calories of whole foods for about $2 dollars and spend 3 minutes a day cooking due to instant pot

Honestly, all fat people should be executed

A lot of people like to shit on McDonalds but honestly it's not any different in quality from any of the other fast food joints out there. You're not any better for going to in & out or whatever.

>>13899121
So basically they’re retarded?

>>13895626
Why the FUCK did this thread even continue past this post? This is the answer there's no debate to be had

>>13897638
>I seriously doubt that.
hahhaa you aint got a fucking clue

>>13896008
Which is why anyone on welfare more more than three years needs to be sterilized as well as anyone who has a child or gets a woman pregnant while on welfare.

>>13896059
Sterilizing people on public assistance and anyone who has a child while on public assistance would solve a lot of these problems, anon.

>>13896059
The American social safety net is designed by liberals and Democrats to keep people trapped in poverty in order to keep them on the Democratic plantation in order to benefit white liberals and their sick perverted deviant friends.

>>13895614
Go buy Chipotle

>>13896153
>>You can also damaged your organs by losing weight too quickly,
>No you retard just eat vitamin supplements what the fuck?

Most of them are fucking sugar pills.

>>13896160
Tasteless carbs without meat, anon.

>>13898384
Experience.

>>13908192
>>Why do people explain a link between obesity and poverty by saying that fast food is "all they can afford"?
>Telling people something is their own fault fell out of fashion in the last two decades

So is truth and sanity.

>>13906845
do americans really drive 3 hours just to go to the grocery store?

>>13895614
Yeah I do. Boil a hamstake with your dry beans and baking soda until soft (1 hour+) Now saute some extra cellery carrot and onion in a separate pot before adding cumin and coriander and chicken stock. Remove the hamstake and pour the whole lot in. Simmer for 20 minutes and puree a cup worth of soup with some cornstarch. Reintroduce before adding lime cilantro and those Goya jamon sazon packets. 2 for good measure.

>>13895695
Indians living barefoot on dirt floors can make rice and beans. Fuck off.

>>13896044
If you stop eating for four it should lighten the load

>>13896152
>>13895604
>>13895725
>>13895843
>>13895913
>>13896053
>>13896154
>>13896171
>>13896214
>>13896345
>>13896623
>>13898261
>>13898384
>>13898934
>>13899017
>>13899121
>>13900997
>>13907456
>>13907586
>>13908192
>>13909391
>>13909459
America, greatest country in the world but 99% of it's citizens can barely make ends meet.
Where did everything go wrong?

>>13895695
Get the fuck outta here with your shitty bait

>>13896103
>White people move in
>It's gentrification
>White people move out
>It's white flight

>>13895604
I had an epiphany about this. I am English and at the beginning of the lockdown we were limited to 2 items per person in Sainsbury's (the supermarket i usually use), to get around this I started going to Iceland as well. For those of you that don't know Iceland is a super market that mostly sells frozen processed food that just requires to be placed in the oven to cook and mostly caters to those less well off. I noticed that all people were buying was frozen oven chips and some form of protein (i.e. frozen sausages, frozen beef burgers, chicken tenders, breaded fish, etc...). All of this food was heavily processes, required no skill to cook and was very cheap. Also, everyone bought soft drinks of some kind, which was a rarity at Sainsbury's. These individuals were also incredibly fat. It was from seeing this that it dawned on me that the poor people are fat stereotype is because they have limited knowledge of cooking, a limited palette (very few frozen vegetables were bought let alone fresh) and had large families to feed. Therefore, the best way for them to feed their families is to buy cheap food that everyone will eat that can be cooked just from chucking in the oven.

>>13895604
Well fast food is cheap, you can eat healthy food cheap but it requires quite a lot of work learning how to cook and what ingredients to use.

Also the human body was made to walk and run and do some physical work, if you do not you will get fat and obese.

So eat fastfood at most a few times a month, try to push your body every day at least 5km walks or a few km's running and/or some daily physical labour like the gym and you will feel and do fine.

>>13895695
Fo you think being poor is what happens when you are stranded on an island in the middle of the ocean or something? I knew people who hopped railway cars and even they had a pan to cook rice and beans (usually just the canned heat and serve type).

I'd often wondered about this same thing, so this thread is a cool insight into both sides of that argument
thanks, anons

>>13895702
>Poor people may have:
>a lack of kitchen space and equipment
So bad financial planning to buy necessities?
>a physcially demending job which leaves them hungry for a quick fix
A lack of patience and something to blame that on
>less education about nutrition and cooking
No argument there smart people don't stay poor for very long, the dumb live there
>limited exposure to different foods depending on upbringing
Stubbornness
>high/stress low morale which makes it difficult to summon the will to cook
So in other words they just don't wanna
>higher potential to be less concerned with the long term future and more concerned with getting through the day
Mentally 4 years old

Either you think being poor is a choice or that poverty is a personality type , I can agree with the former.

>>13895695
>>13895702
I know a lot of people that have or are living out of their car but they can still afford a small portable stove, a small matress to replace the back seats with, a jug of water, and a small pan, Anons. And you can pick up a shit car for way less than monthly rent is in most places these days. And they're working full time. Their monthly bills costs are a 10$ gym membership for a shower and a few bucks for, rice, beans, oats. Ice coolers are a thing too if you have space for it and want to drop a few more bucks on ice, Gas isn't too bad beause you're near where you want to be.

>>13910758
A lot of times itis a personality type. Since moving to America, most peope I've met that lives paycheck to paycheck wastes money on at least 2-3 things they don't need. Be it fast food, some kind of monthly subscription, or worst of all a pet dog or cat. American poorfags are retarded niggers.

>>13909395
If generic multivitamins didn't work I'd know by now. I bet you stocked on some bottles in the last few months as basic prep for Corona dysfunction.

>>13896044
>feeding more than one person makes the walk to Walmart more tiwing
Holy shit the cope is getting intense.

>>13895604
desu I don't think obese people are often the most destitute. Or they haven't been severely impoverished for very long. Someone who truly has nothing has no food.

I'm not saying they are rich or middle class, but being able to get fat is a privilege. not a very good privilege but still none the less.

That being said poverty is not a black and white thing. There are thousands, if not millions of layers of expression between each level of income or lack there of.

>this whole thread

The povertymind is pregnant with bad decisions, entrapping it in poverty. Every long-term opportunity to improve their situation is shunned in favor of instant gratification. Save money to buy a new kitchen? Nah let's blow it on holidays, eating out and the latest iFone, not paid upfront but rented of course with horrid contracts extracting 80+ bux a month from them so they can shoot selfies for instagram and facebook.

>mfw I've been taking advantage of the Quarintine to try and change my food habits
So far I've cut out soda, and have gotten to the point that I only eat when my stomach hits the pain button twice(first one in-case its just a digestion issue with the last meal), and I've been eating pretty minimally sans this morning when I made scrambled eggs with 4 eggs instead of two because I skipped breakfast yesterday. Am I doing okay?

How do I make rice and beans?

They're poor because they usually lack impulse control and are of lower stock than the rest of us. Read up on intelligence, inheritance, and income.

It's a cultural problem. I try not to cast too much judgement on fatfucks because the unfortunate reality is that most of them were just raised by idiots who fed them like pigs without requiring them to exercise. They just grew up to be fat because of their dumb parents and although it is "easy" to lose weight, it is admittedly difficult to change your habits and lifestyle.

>>13910561
You drank too much of the Kool-Aid is what happened
Google the phrase if you don't get what I'm saying

>>13895714>>13895604
Fat people typically have low iqs

Every down syndrome, hyper retard is disgustingly fat. They are not intelligent enough to plan for health.

>>13909395
>most
*All, FTFY

>>13908517
>implying you can spend less than 10 dollars at Whole Paycheck and get more than a kick in the dick

>>13895626
This, literal subhumans

>>13898590
You don't have to be rich to learn how to prepare edible food, lmao. Any fucking homeless person can go to a library. Picking up a basic fucking survival skill, especially these days, has nothing to do with being rich or poor. Even a fucking child can figure out fried eggs on toast and here you are defending the fact you don't know shit like a badge of honor. Congradulations, retard.

where did the "a meal is only 1 dollar at fast food" meme even come came from
it's at least 5-6 which is way more than a homecooked meal

>>13910600
Probably cause whites do it all at once. Once they move out they take everything with them and once they move in they kick everything out. This affects how much the property is worth and the amount of support it gets since the tax dollars get redirected.

>>13910758
Being poor does come with more decision fatigue. It also makes it hard to see and plan for the future. Everything is about NOW. Basically, it's how the USA works as a whole.

The fact that you can't understand that just goes to show how lucky you have you have had a strong financial support for all fo you life.

Also:
>So bad financial planning to buy necessities?

I am confused how you got that out of that. When you renting the place either comes with a kitchen or it doesn't. If have enough money to buy a place you will most likely have a kitchen since residential places are built with one. It's such a weird conclusion to come to.

>>13911090
>but being able to get fat is a privilege

Privileged people are able to buy better foods and have access to better stores. It's way cheaper to buy 2 packs of oreos which are always on sale for $5 as opposed to buying 4 stalks of broccoli for almost the same price and don't last as long.

>>13908517
>I can get 2500 calories of whole foods for about $2 dollars

This is bullshit and you know it. Even if you stick to the produce and their brand of food you will spend, at least, $10 or more. Whole Foods is not cheap and where I live all the locations are really far away and nowhere near any poor people.

Also, what >>13902848 said is true. It's just too much effort. Since poor people lack money the only valuable thing that they have is time. So you are working multiple jobs, taking an hour long commute to get back home, or even have kids/family to take care of no one is going to want to cook. No one is going to want to do anything. So even if you end up spending more money on fast food you will save on time.

This is why there has been a fight to raise the US minimum wage. These minimum wage jobs are still essential during a pandemic and these people still have to go to work while putting their lives in danger. If they fall ill they probably won't even be able to afford the hospital bill.

>>13912802
I guess people think they can live off the dollar menu.

>>13912932
He might be full of shit but. It literally takes like 2-4 minutes to prepare eggs though and they're an average of 3$ for a dozen. You can a get a tin of oats that's 30 servings in one container for 4$ and microwave it for 5 minutes. That's an average of 63 cents a meal and 5 minutes of your time if you multitask.

Beans and rice about 47$ total for 2-3 weeks worth take a bit longer to prep, but you'll have leftovers for days, and a big bag of rice will keep for literal years. Which is 2 minutes of microwaving ontop of the 15 minute initial cooking time if you've soaked the beans the night before. That's 77 cents for a meal. Uncooked these can keep for literal years making it one good trip for a while to actually get the stuff.

Even if you got one thing off the dollar menu for every meal, you're losing time and money by going back to order every fucking time, and if you're getting it all at the same time in one trip I seriously doubt it tastes better.

>>13895702
>less education
Have you EVER met a person who was without access to the internet?

>>13895695
>>13895702
Hey retard. $10 rice cooker for the rice. $15 crockpot for the beans. It's that easy. Now do me a favor and take a long walk into the ocean and suck it all in. It's a great view.

>>13902848
Or you could buy a knife, a spatula, a pan, and a plate, a family pack of ground beef and a case of coke and spend less in the long run.

I'm poor but always have money for anything I need because I'm a saver by nature. Most people would probably consider my life boring though, but hey at least I'm never stressed about bills or debt.

>>13913825
The internet has bred the dumbest fucks on the planet because they're exposed to simple information streams without any help to understand them or purge propaganda. You're clearly one of them.

>>13914033
The internet is just a pool of information. They were incomprehensible retards when they sat down to it.

Fucking Karens in this thread I tell you, always making excuses for lazy people

>>13912388
I never said I don't know how to cook, I said my co-workers didn't, learn to read.

>>13895626
>>13895604
Admitting the primary cause of poverty is the dumb shit poor people do destroys 90% of calls for gibs and implies people have to take personal responsibility for their situation. They don't like that.

>>13895695
>>13895702
Jesus, you really can't help people that don't want to help themselves. I can't believe you can get asspats by saying things like this on facebook/twitter/tumblr

>>13915075
This is why sending aid to shitholes should be banned and nations that are too corrupt and poor to turn themselves around must face the wrath of starvation and genocide. The world would be a better place without them. Don't feed the bears. Don't feed the stupid.

>>13895604
I want to fuck really big fat women
Big titty fatty women
I want to fuck a woman so big she can no longer stand up or sit straight
>I want her so far she doesn't have human shape before
>I want her pussy hurried deep enough in her flesh that I can't reach it but that is great because I do not want her to feel any pleasure from this
>I want to just pick a side, any side and burry myself in it, I do not want to fuck her, I want to fuck her fat
>I want to see how deep I can get, not just my penis but my head and whole torso and arms that I'm spreading open to hugh the fat aswell
I do not care what race this woman is
I do not care her age

>>13914842
The internet has been specifically tailored to feed you propaganda. One person's search of "Egypt" might result in images of Pyramids while yours finds ISIS beheadings. The internet exists to create partisanship and radicalization--which is working very well on this website.

>>13915218
No, thats just retarded underage redditors flooding /pol/ these last few years. No one I know that used to browse /pol/ has gone there for years becase of how bad it's gotten. You know it's bad if the last time it was enjoyable was when /mlp/ was flooding /mlpol/ with horse porn and bringing it's most veteran shitposters.

>>13912874
I was thinking equipment like pots and pans not like the oven and sink. You can move into an apartment tomorrow with a kitchen but it would be difficult to cook much with empty drawers and cabinets that's what I assumed the poster was refering to as it wouldn't make sense otherwise. All residentials have kitchen space in some capacity ao I focused on the equipment argument which is trash as thrift stores exist.
And I haven't had strong financial supping all my life I grew up working poor, my mother just knew enough to focus on the right things in life so me and my siblings grew up educated. If what you are implying is true then poverty is in fact a choice as the poor are choosing NOW over something of value, poor impulse control is a choice.

>>13915662
You don't need a stove in an apartment. I got something like this https://www.amazon.com/GS-1000-Portable-Automatic-Ignition-Carrying/dp/B01MYGMO6M/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=portable+stove&qid=1586689688&sr=8-3 and rigged a bigger tank to it with a tube and I maybe went through 3 of these in 14 years before I got a place that came a stovetop. This plus the tank will cost you 60$ initially but it will pay for itself fast. You're better off chilling in some camping ground or living off your car if you're really poor anyways. I know 2 people doing the former and 3 doing the latter. People working full time wagecuck jobs too.

It's not an ideal living situation but at least you're saving good money and aren't spending 5 dollars on a meal that's going to make you feel more lazy and lethargic.

>>13895604
The US gibs system is designed to unsustainably keep poor people addicted to sustinence high in food additives.

>>13896183
In food deserts you have to charge high prices because your rent, "shrinkage," and labour costs are high. Your customers are relatively poor. They only buy the absolute minimum, cherry pick what's on sale and get the rest at the Walmart. Tiny margins with poor customers is not a business to be in.

>>13911638
You are doing good. Making hunger your bitch will serve you well.

>>13895604
Yeah I think you're right, cost isn't a major factor here.

I suspect it is more that with sugary drinks (ie soda) it is very easy to consume loads of calories without realising, plus it fucks with your hormones which affects appetite.

I live in Baltimore in a so called good desert will time stamp if you need

Walmart is a ten minute walk and you can buy fresh bread and milk at Dollar general which is literally the number one store on all good deserts

The candy section of every corner store on America is where blacks get 99 percent of their nutrition and meals by choice

They don't count these places because it is a made up narrative

>>13917153
Food desert fuck cells phones

>>13916999
Trips of truth. The low nutrition high fat and sugar food only makes you more hungry, fucks your hormones, makes you lethargic, and makes your mood shit. They're caught in this loop that only gets worse the longer they do it.

>>13895604
it is partisan first world garbage. in the third world people eat the samey rice and beans religiously and that didn't stop the obesity rates from rising. and if you can afford a mc donalds meal everyday you can surely call yourself middle class because when you're miserable you eat outside for convenience or your own enjoyment, not for necessity

>>13912890
>broccoli
didn't knew oreos were considered a meal in muttrica and didnt knew people needed to eat vegan pseudo foods to get fit

>>13895695
>Meanwhile in a 3rd world shithole

>>13918282
yummy yummy! how can you eat crap without sugar!? it tastes so yummy yummy! i dont care if im poor forever, i will keep eating yummy yummy sugar yummy!!! yayyy!! its for everyone.

>>13895695
I'm sorry you have to go through this anon.

>>13911623
That's mostly boomer behavior. Since forever the older generation has saved some wealth and taught the younger ones what to do with it and how to use it. Most boomers fell for the. "Your kids should build everything from the ground up, come spend money on cruise ships, instant food, and the latest gadgets before you die goy." Meme hard. They've also been trying to normalize this "teen/ young adult angst" thing for the last few decades in media, when in all of history, it only ever was big in their generation. That's why "okay boomer" is such a funny meme, because they only ever lashed out at the generation before them, and have to do it to the ones after too. Faties have been mimicing their behavior.

People learning to cook more has been fucking these big fast food industries recently, at least in first world countries where they sell themselves as being quick and fast, which is obvious bullshit. They're doing better in third world shitholes where there business model is a nice place you can go with friends or a date, since the fact that it's more expensive than the average meal is more obvious. It's not just fast food either, big companies like Disney make fuckall on their movies and shit anymore, they buy out shit that exploits boomers and will have a big dent in income when they die out.

>>13911913
>>13912932
Whole foods as in unprocessed foods, not Whole Foods -the store-
I thought about wording my post to be more clear but didn't bother assuming one would have to be pretty illiterate to not understand what I said
But here we are

>>13913573
>>13919604

>>13895604
It's a psychological dependency. You work for nothing, have no property of your own to work on, and have no future prospects so you just eat to keep comfortable while time passes by.

You are fat because you are lazy, That is it.
Not your thyrod, not your genes, not because you are poor. but because you are lazy and likely stupid.

>>13910758
lol this broke bitch trying to gang up against more broke bitches.

Certainly has nothing to do with MSG addiction or anything...

>>13909486
Americans would drive to the bathroom from their bedroom had it only been an option

>>13895604
If you say the reason poor fat people are the way they are is because of lower IQ, you are a racist because a higher percentage of minorities are fat and poor. So you kind of have to just make shit up.

>>13895604
Fuck off, Dave Ramsey.

>>13896132
You are fucked in the brain mate.

>>13919990
dangerously truthpilled

>>13895604
>Why do people explain a link between obesity and poverty by saying that fast food is "all they can afford"?
Who does that? Never heard of that before.

Was actually thinking on it. What fast food can you get cheap would come close to a proper diet. I was thinking maybe pizza depending on what you got and from where.

>>13920254
Soup

>>13902848
>hundreds of dollars of gear
I can go to ikea and get the following (in AUD)
5$ saucepan/frypan
5$ pot with lid
2$ knife set
2$ kitchen utensils set
3$ chopping board
2$ plastic cutlery set
70c dinner plate and bowl
2$ food container
Total of 22.40. Even on minimum wage living paycheck to paycheck you can afford this shit, and you'd be able to cook most anything. I hope you realize your logic is stems to your laziness.

When i lived below the poverty line i spent a lot of time fishing. Free diving and wading shallow beaches with a floundering set up yields $100-$300 AUD worth of fish every trip. A standard pier hopping day with -$30 in gear in the right spots is a guaranteed meal for 1-3 days.

My centrelink payments were $240 a fortnight and my usual meals were crayfish, flathead, flounder or gummy sharks with potatoes at $1 per kg and frozen green veg.

Seriously learn to fish and you will eat food of quality the rich will never experience in a city. Not only will you eat like a king but exercise like this is great for the depression that being poor brings.

>>13902848
But you don't go to the shops every day you fucking retard. You go probably once a week to buy shit in bulk and PLAN OUT YOUR FUCKING MEALS.

>>13895626
/thread

>>13905112
Buy 1 kg of chicken breast.
Put half of it in the freezer, slice remaining half into small-medium pieces. Put them a bowl, pour soy sauce over it, add some starch, mix 'em, fry 'em. Can keep it in the fridge covered with plastic wrap for at least a week. Try with different side dishes not to get bored.

>>13895695
>multiple
>part time
>"jobs"

Food prices are extremely low in the US compared to the EU, Americans earn significantly more than western Europeans on average, yet somehow normal food is "too expensive"?
Fatties doth protest too much, methinks.

>>13920931
Don't even need half those things. Only things I had when I moved out was a wok, a wooden spoon, 4 tupperware, and a good knife. I'd just eat directly from the tupperware or wok itself with my hands, or the woodenspoon. Saved time on washing dishes which was nice. I had a 20-30 dollar portable stove I'd propt up on a wooden table I got for free. I was also given a minifridge by someone for cheap since they got something better. Those things are fantastic.

>>13921142
This. Chicken is fucking great. When I started cooking I just threw on salt and pepper and I still do sometimes. I'd also simmer some apples that were on sale and about to go bad and mash it up to make applesauce and top with cinnamon. Learning a bunch of ways to prepare eggs was also fun. If I was lazy I'd just cook oatmeal (pretty much 17 cents a serving) and throw on some cheap preground cinnamon on that too, or put some of that appleauce ontop.

Once a week I'd soak some lentils beforehand and fry up some of that chicken, onions, tomatoes, garlic, and throw the lentil in for some bomb ass soup. If there was spinach or any other vegetable on sale I'd throw that in too. salt and pepper to taste. Once a blue moon I'd make a beef, carrot, mushroom and potato stew.

I did have to walk a ways for groceries too, but a good backpack was great for that so the plastic from the bags didn't dig into my fingers after a while and it was only once or twice a week. I'd always do it on my day off.

Fat people are retards and they should be euthanized.

>>13898574
Mate you're talking about deferred gratification here. Work now for a payoff later. Poor people don't think that way... that's why they're poor.

>>13921518
Chicken really is great. Personal preference for lazy chicken: pack of chicken breasts, olive oil, oregano, sea salt, garlic, lemon juice. Mix up toss in slow cooker on low, go to work / go to bed / whatever. If no slow cooker can just roast normally.

Easy delicious chicken for next to zero effort. Goes well with potatoes, rice, horiatiki, whatever. T b h it's one of the main things I eat.

>>13910561
Look up the 2008 financial crisis and ghetto history.
Basically everything went to shit during the crisis and people who should have been put in a gilitine got private islands and ghettos have always been fucked since slavery was abolished.
Poor got poorer and then got fucked at every step.

>>13921790
I might try that next week. Sounds good, Anon.

>>13921588

>>13921790
>>13922813
Forgot, but ground pepper as well.

>>13923593
How well does cooking the chicken breasts go in a slow cooker without any liquid?

>>13924061
Depending on the amount of olive oil you can add water. I use a lot of olive oil and I generally keep the excess (after the chicken is done) either for making roasted potatoes or to mix in with rice. But adding water is fine too, if you didn't use a lot of oil. General rule of thumb of slow cooking is if you're worried about dryness in a recipe you can always just add some amount of water to account for drying.