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13847433 No.13847433 [Reply] [Original]

Just because it's pasta doesn't mean it's proper "Italian" cooking. It's Americanized, and rarely do they get it right to call it Italian. Americans have some very weird methods to cook pasta and it's disingenuous to say "oh, we're having Italian tonight." No. You're having American pasta. Italian cooking has specific methods of cooking that is considered correct if you want to call it Italian.

>> No.13847439

>>13847433
Fuck off, loser.

>> No.13847441
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YOU DON'T USE GARLIC IN PASTA DISHES YOU DON'T USE BUTTER YOU CAN'T USE LEMON JUICE YOU CAN ONLY USE OLIVE OIL AND FUCKSAUCE I'M ITALIAN MY GRANDMOTHER DIDN'T MAKE IT THIS WAY REEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.13847448

>>13847441
I can't tell if you're parodying Italishits or if you actually are one since they're so deranged.

>> No.13847449

Even worse is the americans who think they are real Italians doing real italian cooking because they call mozzarella “motserelle” and call tomato sauce gravy for some reason

>> No.13847450

>>13847449

Nobody calls tomato sauce gravy you fuckwit

>> No.13847459

>>13847433
If you were sitting in france and made frito pie would you call it french because you’re in france?

>> No.13847460

>>13847450
They do in philadelphia.

>> No.13847471

>>13847450
My Sicilian grandmother who lives in Mt. Vernon does this. Tomato sauce is gravy, and gravy is "brown gravy"

>> No.13847478

>>13847433
Americanized is the better version though.
Italy can whine all they want to UNESCO, but idgaf.

>> No.13847481

>>13847433
Why does America live rent free in the mind of /ck/? How can they with a straight face say we are not the cultural center of the world when even on a cooking forum on a Mongolian cavepainting board is dominated by the US at all times?

>> No.13847495

>>13847481
Modern Italy feels inferior, because the US absorbed all the non defective "Italians" before Italy even unified.

>> No.13847496

>>13847433
Memes

>> No.13847539
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13847539

American "Italian" food > authentic Italian cuisine

>> No.13847544

>>13847459
Yes

>> No.13847547

>>13847433
This board's quality increases a thousandfold when you filter threads containing the word "Americans" and "American." Rent free, cope, cucked, seethe.

>> No.13847592

>>13847433
Why do they serve food at italian weddings?...

To keep the flies of the bride.

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>>13847433
rate my Italian pasta

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>>13847448
Italians seething because food is the only thing their country has left

>> No.13848101

>>13848095
Authentic Italian as fuck.

>> No.13848108

>>13848095
Caesar himself would weep in the presence of the dish looks great

>> No.13848119

>>13847449
>motserelle
Nobody says this.
It's pronounced
>moozarel

>> No.13848140

>>13848095
10/10 molto benis

>> No.13848148

>>13847433
nah, its italian

>> No.13848275

>>13848095

based

>> No.13848412

>>13847450
They do in Sopranos. I hope it makes greaseballs seethe.

>> No.13848431

Might not be “proper” but Italian-American food is its own category. Kinda like how Italian Americans in general are a bastardized version of Italians in the first place

.....Making pasta & a salad and claiming you’re “having Italian” though. Woof.

>> No.13849021

>>13847433
Americans only say "we are having italian tonight" if they are going to an italian joint.
Otherwise they say something like "we are having spaghetti" or "fettucini alfredo".
In short OP is dumb and this is forced

>> No.13849209

>>13847449
I always call it mott zer ell uh

>> No.13849219

>>13848095
I’ve been to Italy 14 times and I can honestly say I’ve never seen a shitalian cook up a plate of pasta that looked so beautiful. OP absolutely, objectively, undisputedly BTFO. He will NEVER recover.

>> No.13849235

>>13849021
this, /thread

>> No.13849795

Fun fact: Russian style pasta dishes are often straight macaroni noodles and cooked with beef tallow or butter. Best for winter and early spring.

>> No.13849867

>>13847433
We really are in your Eurocuck head all day, aren't we.

>> No.13849910

Noodles are Chinese food, changing the name to pasta isn't fooling anyone

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>>13847433

this is the acid test for whether it's real "Italian" or not

also Tripcode assholes are the worst assholes

>> No.13849954
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>>13847433
because pasta is italian you dumb greaseball
although I'm avoiding italian food now forever.

>> No.13849959

>>13848099
>Italians seething because food is the only thing their country has left
Ever heard of art, architecture, poetry and the mightiest military in human history?

>> No.13849964

>>13849954
you shouldn't make fun of this. the whole country is suffering.

>> No.13850027

>>13847441
I thought your family coughed to death last weekend lmao

>> No.13850043

>>13847433
Why are Italians so quick to sperg about food? Does their country have nothing else noteworthy?

>> No.13850071

>>13848431
>Italian Americans in general are a bastardized version of Italians in the first place
you mean better versions?

the italian americans of today came from the italians that fled or were kicked out during the fall of the monarchy and the rise of fascism
remember how that turned out? yeah no italy is completely overrun with africans, bankrupt, and dying in the streets from a plague they don't have the infrastructure to solve

also EU

>> No.13850112

>>13848119
joey is that you?

>> No.13850136

>>13847433
because Americans didn't eat much pasta until Italian immigrants arrived in the late 1800s and early 1900s. They liked to cook pasta, and the locals would refer to them as "italians" and when they refered to their food they called it "italian food". It stuck.

Same reason why Americans call salsiccia "Italian Sausage". It was the sausage at the Italian immigrants ate

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13850145

Nobody in America says "we're having Italian tonight" unless they're going to an actual Italian restaurant. It's "we're having spaghetti or lasagne or whatever". Italy isn't really relevant enough for us to reference it frequently.

>> No.13850150

>>13849964
How does that make something not funny

>> No.13850151

>>13847433
Don’t worry about it.

>> No.13850154

>>13847449
No one calls tomato sauce gravy.

>> No.13850155

Nobody cares what you think, we're all just laughing as your countrymen drop like flies to COVID. Also, rent free.

>> No.13850181

>>13849954
>because pasta is italian you dumb greaseball

No it isn't Marco "I'll fuck anything with a hole" Polo brought it back from China.

>> No.13850429

>>13847441
>what is aglio olio

>> No.13850457

>>13847433
Is America the first thing that comes into your mind every time you wake up?

>> No.13850464

>>13849959
>Ever heard of art, architecture, poetry and the mightiest military in human history?
Yeah, but what does any of that have to do with Shitaly?

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>>13847433
>Why do Americans....

>> No.13850969

>>13847433
I have never heard any American once call their spaghetti italian. Not once. I think italians should be more worried about those corona death tolls.

>> No.13850977

>>13847441
Not using garlic is a legitimate advice for pasta dishes that don't primarily focus on garlic. When I stopped using that shit in every pasta sauce I made I realized how overpowering it was.

>> No.13850978

>>13850457
Isn't it what it seems like? What if everyday there were threads specifically about brazil? After a while you'd think even they would get weirded out by themselves.

>> No.13851007

>>13847433
while i agree, dont be a prick about it.

>> No.13851016

>>13847433
TONIGHT WE'RE HAVIN' ITALIAN DEEP DISH PEETZER

>> No.13851165

>>13850457
He lives in and was born in America and sees America every time he wakes up, so it's not unlikely.

>> No.13851374

>>13850969
American here. I call my pet Italian Spaghetti.

>> No.13851404

>>13850898
OP is American.

>> No.13851664

>>13847433
And those methods differ from family to family. I married an Italian and can confirm her family rigidly conforms to tradition. But their traditions generally change based on area and even family.

Italians could barley put together a comprehensible language and still have stupid fucking dialects everywhere. What makes you think they would agree on cooking methods? You n on k no ow way less about Italian food than you think you do.

>> No.13851718

>>13849959
>imports massive amounts of slaves for centuries whose children could become full blooded romans
>get invaded by germans for like 500 years

Ok luigi you wuz romulus

>> No.13852048

>>13849959
that is what Italy HAD

>> No.13852052

>>13847460
fuck philly

>> No.13852061

>>13850181
That's a myth. Pasta dates back to ancient Rome.

>> No.13852069

>>13847441
i make marinara out of anything red, usually paprika and beets and fresh red bell pepper and red wine vinigger

bout to order big bag of beet powder just for this

tomatoes are garbage now and forever, disgusting snot-filled ORNAMENTS that were ONLY EATEN IN TIMES OF FAMINE BECAUSE THEY'RE BALLS OF TRASH SLIME

>> No.13852074

>>13847433
im 1/32 italian and so it is my right as an italian-american

>> No.13853142

>>13850071
“Remember now that turned out” bruh I’m Italian American, I just wanted to make a damn joke. Agreeing with you that we’re great, but anything with “American” tacked onto it is a caricature. Maybe with a little extra cheese.

...But, I’d definitely rather get laughed at for talking with my hands than whatever the hell Actual Italy is up to right about now.

>> No.13853345

>>13852061
The myth is that pasta dates back to ancient Rome. There's no evidence of it, and there weren't anything close.
>inb4 ancient spaghetti recipe that dates after Marco Polos travels

>> No.13853388

>>13853345
A cursory look at wikipedia proves you wrong
>There is a legend of Marco Polo importing pasta from China[17] which originated with the Macaroni Journal, published by an association of food industries with the goal of promoting pasta in the United States.[18] Rustichello da Pisa writes in his Travels that Marco Polo described a food similar to "lagana". Jeffrey Steingarten asserts that Arabs introduced pasta in the Emirate of Sicily in the ninth century, mentioning also that traces of pasta have been found in ancient Greece and that Jane Grigson believed the Marco Polo story to have originated in the 1920s or 30s in an advertisement for a Canadian spaghetti company.[19]
The Marco Polo story was a fucking marketing ploy.

>> No.13853616

>>13847592
i don't get it.

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>>13850071
>italy is completely overrun with africans, bankrupt, and dying in the streets

Sounds like America to me. But who does it better? I'll bet Americans would jump to bet their niggers are the world's best.

>> No.13854231

>>13850071
> yeah no italy is completely overrun with africans
Where did you get that from?
Immigration in italy is 8.7 of the population with the majority being from Romania.
African population is more or less the 0.7% of the population


While in burgerland 12% of population is a negro.
Stop browsing /pol/ you mongoiliod