/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13831597

>>13831638
Too salty.

>>13831638
pretty good reasons for that one bro

>>13831597
>ITT post american food and no one is allowed to judge my fatass

Gotcha

>>13832443
>Butter
>American food

Have you heard of the French

>>13831669
Get the low sodium one
>>13832417
Dude, its fine. Actually a costly meat. The reason why its got the reputation started in World War 2 when all meat rations were going to the troops and there was only spam, people developed a very negative image not based on taste. And of course the internet related meaning of shitty emails and spouting shit, again unrelated to the canned meat.

>>13832456
all that shit doesn't change the fact that its a shitty canned meat
you don't see any other canned meats having a good reputation

>>13831597
pineapple on pizza

Burgers are literally bread, meat, veg and cheese but people lose their shit when you order one. Even in a fancy restaurant with high quality ingredients they act like you just ordered a Big Mac.

>>13832949
I actually do want to eat haggis someday.

I might cook it myself :( wont have anything to compare it to.

>>13832473
Spam is really good when thin sliced and pan fried. Pretty crap just about any other way, though.

>>13831597
>causes heart disease
>nothing personell, kid

>>13833035
burgers are sandwiches
you don't order sandwiches at restaurants

>>13833766
>animal fat causes heart disease

>>13833787
yeah i'll discard all the cardiologists research in favor of some retard on 4chinz

Butter doesn't have a bad rap.

>>13833810
Boomers demonized butter when the food industry fear mongered that fat causes heart disease (it doesn't). It's why "I can't Believe it's Not Butter!" and other horrible abominations came into existence.

>>13833897
yeah the extensive research by cardiologists should all be discarded because the dairy industry disputes all claims. Imagine being such a lobby nigger

>>13833915
Okay, Vegan.

>>13833922
i'm not even a vegan you retard, are you this indoctrinated by your corporate overlords?

>>13833931
Have fun getting heart disease then, retard.

>>13833939
read some studies, brainlet

>>13833931
Sugar causes heart disease, and high fat diets do not. These are just the facts my guy.

>>13833915
Your research is outdated by atleast 20-30 years and cherry picked from agrar-lobbying cardiologists by the likes of Dr. Greger to promote veganism. There is no consensus that animal fats give you heart disease but there is a strong consensus that highly processed plant oils are bad for you.

>>13833967
It's pretty hard to find mainstream doctors or organizations that claim saturated fat isn't harmful. You have to seek out fringe characters or keto/pale types, most of whom also want to sell you a book and probably have their own personal website.

>>13833967
jesus, imagine being such a sheep

>>13833981
Science has long moved away from cholesterol being generally bad so i don't know which argument they would even use to claim saturated fat is harmful. The only reason why it's still not being touted as healthy is most likely because of the influence of the agrar industry.

>>13834001
>"jesus, imagine being such a sheep," screeched the sheep.

>>13833967
A cow that produces butter eats way more agrar products than a man ever could so the agrar lobby would profit from butter much more, you retard.

>>13833981
https://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1846638/association-dietary-circulating-supplement-fatty-acids-coronary-risk-systematic-review?resultClick=3

How about a fucking Cambridge University meta-analysis

>>13833981
It's because saturated fat can still be more harmful in certain cases, like if you're obese. An obese person will actually be healthier if they limit their saturated fat intake, but that doesn't mean saturated fat is inherently bad for everyone. But since most people are overweight, it ends up being bad for most. If you aren't overweight, and you're not an alcoholic/heavy smoker, saturated fat doesn't really seem to cause any problems though.

>>13833035
It's because they got associated with unhealthy fast food so people think they're just always bad too. But a burger itself can actually be pretty healthy.

>>13835149
Cows don't get fed Captain Crunch, vegan idiot.

All the profit is in brand name processed foods.

>>13835220
Saturated fat cures obesity. I didn't even read your whole post because it's so incredibly moronic.

Stop spreading lies.

>>13835149
what's agrar?

>>13835251
No food "cures" obesity if you're going to continue overeating. If you would've read the whole post you would see that I'm not saying saturated fat is bad. Just that being obese is bad and causes a lot of problems.

>>13835277
Unsaturated fats cause obesity. Saturated fat cures obesity.

Stop posting.

>The mice fed this diet [high saturated fat] became very lean, but in particular they had very little abdominal fat and more lean mass compared to mice fed a high starch diet or mice fed a diet high in oleic acid, a monounsaturated fat found in olive oil.
https://fireinabottle.net/introducing-the-croissant-diet/

if u had good tofu u know it

>>13835149
Cows ideally eat grass only you vegan clown. Go inject some b12 to fix your brain because you are clearly the one who is retarded.

>>13831597
>butter
>bad rep
i put that shit in my coffee man. love me some butter.

>>13835805
Sure. All cows are grazing and are not fed with corn pellets and shit like that.

>>13835290
>Stearic acid fed db/db mice had high fecal fat content and caloric intake calculations indicated low absorption of this fat.
>The beneficial effect of stearic acid appears to be associated with a decreased absorption of dietary fat.
It seems a little more complicated than that. The mice didn't absorb that type of saturated fat very well, so they were shitting out more calories compared to the other mice. Don't know if the same thing happens with humans. But you can still literally eat nothing but unsaturated fat, white sugar, white flour, and anything else and not become obese if you focus on calorie count.

also
>using a blog from an obese guy to talk about what's healthy or not

>>13831597
Oh you think YOU got it bad?

>>13835290
>>13836827
>Stearic acid/Melting point
>156.7°F
This is the saturated fat they were feeding the mice, too. It has a way higher melting point than oleic acid that was also used in the study, and it's way higher than butter or anything else. So it basically sounds like feeding mice a type of fat that is like wax that is poorly digested made them lose weight. Not really a revelation, and most people aren't eating pure stearic acid either.

>>13831638
Has a weird mouth feel desu. The flavor is fine but after a while it feels like I'm eating a dish sponge.

>>13833915
>cardiologists
They have a financial interest in making sure you get heart disease. Consider that when they tell you what to eat and not eat.

>>13831597
broccoli

>>13836937
What are you a female? You can't eat a sponge? GTFO!

>>13834001
ironic, i was going to post something like this. but you made me curious, how mindlessly accepting the status quo is not "sheepish" according to you? i really want to hear you actually make that argument lol

>>13835678
that does look good

>>13837017
Cooklets boil their broccoli and it's the worst shit you've ever tasted

>>13833770
sure but you can order a skirt steak, salad and bread on the side, and they are all the same ingredients

>>13839444
Throw that shit into the oven with potatoes, bunch of cheese and cream and you got a good ass meal on your hands though

>>13839444
>>13839530
try almost blackening it in a hot pan, then adding butter and water and finish it in the resulting emulsion. works for all cabbages.