/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13698120
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>>13698120
The point of breakfast is for it to suck?

Get your retard ass outta here

>>13698120
I'm just going to assume that's ricotta because the alternative is too saddening to bear.

>eating an entire block of halva for breakfast
You fat fuck.

>>13698120

I am very depressed and stressed out and food is pleasurable so i eat 4000 calories a day minimum

>>13698152
What are you depressed and stressed out about?

desu all the fatass food has given me brain damage and causes images of fatass food to flash in my brain whenever I consume even a little bit of it
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/feb/19/researchers-find-a-western-style-diet-can-impair-brain-function

thankfully I found out that there are candies made with sugar alcohols these days. The first day I ate too much and it gave me the shits. But today I had just a couple pieces (a russell stover sugar free dark chocolate and a york peppermint patty) and I found them very satisfying without behaving like a fatass. I hope people take the sugar substitute pill like me.

>>13698120
>having breakfast

>>13698152
That's not an issue if you workout enough to counteract the calorie intake.

Most professional athletes will crush 6-8k calories a day during training. And there are some massive outliers that can do 10k+ every day. But those monsters spend like 70% of their day working out and training.

>>13698120
>Eating every 5 hours
You fat fuck.
Try eating a large and hearty breakfast that will keep you going for 10-12 hours, then have a small second meal and maybe a light snack in the evening. Drink plenty of tea throughout the day.

>>13698394
eat apple slices and the spices you put in Christmas pudding with plain (non-sweet) biscuits and butter. Like cinnamon, cloves and aniseed. Stuff like that cuts out sweet cravings. Sugar substitutes suck.

This is my second meal.

>>13698503
Yes, what about it, fattie?

>>13698120
I'm not fat and I eat whatever I please, just less of it. It's all about calories, eating "healthy" is just punishing yourself needlessly to conform to normie marketing.

>>13698120
what is that

>>13698515
I have no idea how people need a big breakfast to "keep them going." Breakfast puts my ass right back into sleep or complacency. I don't eat until 5 PM at the earliest, normally not until 6 or 7 PM. And I wake up for work at 7 AM.

Anyways OP, I think people are just addicted to the idea of "yummy" foods, and were forced by their parents as kids to eat three square meals a day, so they totally freak out if they're not constantly chowing down.

I like the taste of food, but once a day is good for me. I also don't understand the kind of people who can have "just a taste" of something, or eat just a very small amount. Seems like a way to never feel satisfied.

>>13698120
Is that a fucking block of raw tofu? Fuck you

Those beans made me hungrier so I whipped up a quick 150 calorie snack (whey protein shake)

>>13698120
some people would rather have good experiences than give in to vanity

>>13698910
tell us how satiating this liquid protein is bro

>>13698910
>splay footed
mutant

>>13698120
usually the issue is
>b-but I AM counting calories and eating healthy!
>drinks 2500 calories of soda/beer a day

>>13698913
It's not vanity to not be overweight. Being overweight causes a lot of health problems. That said, you can still eat whatever you want and lose weight if you practice portion control. Most people struggle to keep up a diet if they're not enjoying what they're eating, which is pretty normal.

>>13698913
nothing tastes as good as skinny feels

>>13698120
It's hard to convince anyone to do anything that they don't want to do and don't feel an immediate need to do.

Obese man here. I get very, very depressed when I go on a calorie deficit and eat healthy. Everything in my life will be fine but I'll just feel extreme sadness for no reason. Maybe I'm going on too big of a deficit, but I really hate being hungry. I don't just dislike it. It actually makes me want to die.

Other people just have different minds and thought processes. If you're not obese, and you never have been, you'd never understand it.

>>13699361
I've never been obese, but I've been overweight, and I think your problem is just that you need to tough it out through the first couple of weeks. Your body will adjust, as will your mood.

>>13698910
Why are you standing like that?

>>13698515
>Try eating a large and hearty breakfast that will keep you going for 10-12 hours
I've tried that, no matter how much I eat I am usually hungry in about 6 hours. you're an ass.

>>13699434
This. Eating one large meal and trying to coast the rest of the day is universally agreed upon to be something that retards only do. You have the big meal, if at all, either mid-day or later in the day and just fast for most of the morning

>>13698910
why are you standing like my adopted down syndrome uncle?

>>13698120
people who are not fat will never understand what it is to be fat or how difficult it is to lose weight once you gained it.

>>13699425
>>13699438
For attention

>>13698120
That's like 750 calories in cheese you fucking idiot.

>>13698513
and roiding, those are roid diet numbers.

>Why is it so hard for some people to diet? I'm perfectly happy with eating bland, colorless and unpalatable food!
Gee, I wonder.

>>13698913
>doesn't understand the meaning of vanity so accidentally admits to being vain

Third meal. It’s almost 5pm and I still have 1000 calories left after this LOL. How do fat people do it

>>13699295
Sounds like an anorexic tumblrina catchphrase.

>>13698120
if you want to lose weight, just eat less. no need to torture yourself with tofu

>>13698120
OP here, I let random dudes from Craigslist piss in my mouth.

>>13698120
I have that same bowl on the left from Target.

>>13699361
>>13699453
I understand it and I'm toughing through anyway.
105.5 pounds down so far, 29.5 to go. Then I try to maintain while gaining strength.
The hardest part for me is eating a varied diet since access to cheap fruit/veg is limited. Your mood suffers more if you're not getting that stuff. I'm stocking up on mangos tomorrow, they're ridiculously cheap right now. I don't even like them that much but you learn to like anything sweet when you cut out everything artificial. Just plain milk is delicious now.

>>13699361
It's all in your mind. Peaked at a obese BMI of 33.5~. Took several attempts, and years, to find what worked for me. Now I'm down to 21.5~ and very happy I started this journey. It is in no way impossible if you have the will to change. You might stumble, just get up and keep going.

>>13698271
Probably being fat.

>>13698120
> Why do fat people find it so difficult to diet?
They can’t tolerate hunger. The secret to weight loss is hunger. The hungrier you are, the more you lose. The longer you’re hungry, the more you lose. The less you satisfy yourself when you do eat, the more you lose. They can’t eat as much as they want, and if that was ok for them, they wouldn’t have gotten fat in the first place. That’s why they like keto. It’s a hunger cheat code at the cost of being dumb faggots.

>>13699696
Looks like microwaved eggs with spinach and semen?

For me, it's OMAD. I absolutely gorged on garbage for dinner while still staying under my caloric maintenance.

>>13699696
Because they enjoy eating tasty food. Better to have tasty food and shorter life to some.

>>13699864
what is your maintenance? i find it incredibly easy to overshoot.

I ran two miles out of boredom and now I have 1200 calories left instead of 1000. It’s almost 7pm LOL. I go to bed around 10

>>13699850
You'd be the expert on semen, fag

>>13698120
You're a total faggot.

However I did wonder how fat people can be so big. I expressed this to a fwb the other day because I saw a guy that looked 500 pounds at work that day and I really find it interesting. I didn't understand how much they could eat, because I was dumb and thought you'd need 6k calories to maintain 400 pounds stagnant. I thought this because I weigh 190 at 6' and consume about 3500 a day. Give or take 500.
She laughed and said I don't, so I Googled some easy to get information to prove it. If I get dominoes, I'm going to eat a large and a half, and drink about 15 to 20 beers at about 100 calories a piece (alcoholic).
If I do Wendy's, I do 4 double stacks and 2 large fries, plus that beer.
I forget the numbers it came to but it was between 3 and 4k.

>>13700423
Oh, obviously I'm omad. Not as a diet choice just the way I've always been. I deviate sometimes which is actually where Wendy's comes in. That's 2 meals of 2 double stacks 1 L fries.
Also she ended up just shutting me down by saying I'm really active. Haven't been to a gym since high-school but I guess I work hard.

>>13699850
Looks like steamed eggs(?)

>>13698513
The people eating that much don't do it regularly, and they can only exercise for so long because the roids speed up recovery time. The big bois eating that much regularly are on fucktons of roids and gain tons of fat as well during those cycles.

>>13698910
Always disappointed with this pic, the shake should be in the center of the frame or even below so that it isn't as obvious the pic was taken to show the feet

Do fatties seriously get depressed and eat food to cope? I thought being clinically depressed makes you not want to eat?

>>13699361
Losing weight sucks balls. I'm not overweight but have starved when I was out of work or in other shitty situations where I wasn't getting enough calories and it feels horrible like you're saying. I don't know what the right approach is if for people that have to lose weight cause I never did it intentionally but it's not just caue you're a fatass by nature or something, it doesn't feel good.

I'm fat because instead of regular vices that skinny people have like smoking and drinking, I instead turn to food.

>>13700447
Exs mom said she used to feed her (as in my Exs) dad 5k a day when he was a security guard at a powerplant near me just cause he was walking all day and though I don't know his actual height, I'm 6' barely (nurses might have lied for my ego idk) and he's shorter than me by at least 3 inches.
Granted, she was for sure not super accurate with those estimates, but I wouldn't be surprised if most athletes in football, basketball, or hockey are crusging that much while training and playing. Powerlifters are probably the 10k guys though

>>13700503
eating food seems like a "regular" vice like smoking and drinking though. even kids can do it.

>>13700470
Depression and addiction are different things although most addicts are also going to be depressed.

t. No a psychiatrist but alcoholic that's been very interested in my addiction for a long time. Most times I think it's cause I was "adhd" as a child so they pumped me full of speed and I never learned to cope or socialize on a sober mind

>>13700513
True. I should take up smoking and shed some weight tho

>>13699295
used to be auschwitz mode now bulkan and liftan, feels good eating a lot and not being so weak anymore. just trying to find a good medium

Got about 600 calories left after this.

More like why do people insist on eating constantly?

Like they get outraged and incredulous if someone doesn't stuff their face every few hours.

honestly can't find anything to eat to fill the rest of these calories. prob just gonna go to bed

>>13698120
And you're equally as retarded as them because you're one of those dumb faggots that thinks you have to force yourself to eat bland food to lose weight.

>>13698394
well, i'm spooked. time to change my diet

>>13698120
>Yeah, it sucks, but that’s the point.
What's the point? You can have low calorie food that doesn't taste like shit, flavour isn't the sole domain of high calorie food.

>>13698120
I have a suspicion that this thread was made by a spooky skeleton..

>>13698577
>eat apple slices and the spices you put in Christmas pudding with plain (non-sweet) biscuits and butter. Like cinnamon, cloves and aniseed.
I'n having trouble picturing this. Got any recipes?

>>13699822
>The secret to weight loss is hunger. The hungrier you are, the more you lose. The longer you’re hungry, the more you lose. The less you satisfy yourself when you do eat, the more you lose.
How do you fight this response?

>>13700972
I find drinking helps. Stuff without caloric content, ideally. So water, tea, etc.

>>13700974
Good idea, I've been trying to develop a tea habit. Something about those tannins keeps sugar cravings at bay.

>>13700980
/tea/ is a pretty chill place, step in some time.

>>13700983
Is it? I got the impression they were snobby, and I'm not really a guy that thinks twice about just sticking leaves in a thermos.

>>13700999
That's just grandpa style brewing, which is a well accepted and normal way to drink tea. You don't have to do a full on gong fu tea ceremony every time you drink tea, it's just a different way to appreciate it.

>>13699793
45.1 reporting in

carb addiction
carbs taste good
carbs are cheap

>>13700604
lol nice one u stand like a weirdo look at those feet

>>13700470
big boy reporting in. got fat after i realized all my exes had lied to me about their sex history, and everyone i had trusted had set me up to be lied to. depression is a safer emotion than rage. if i eat a shitton of food, think 2 pints of good ice cream, or an entire box of cereal and half gal milk, or an entire box of chips ahoy and half gal milk, or 3 quarts of juice, i feel a warm and safe feeling of contentment, and then i pass the fuck out. it's not ideal but it feels good.

i used to be hot (wrestling team and cut weight to less than half my current weight, had natty shoulder striations) and the cool kids invited me to their parties. now nobody wants to be around me but coworkers and family generally put up with me.

thing is, i've been on the chans for 5+ years, i've read all the redpills (still looking for more redpills but you know what i mean) so i know that if i get /fit/ then i am making other people suffer. it's like a lion: successful male lions fight and ruin other male lions. maybe not physically, but domination and emasculation of other male lions is necessary for any and every male lion to reproduce. and the fucking normies i interact with wouldn't understand me if i referenced "the last psychiatrist"... looking good isn't about self-esteem. self-esteem is a polite code-word that means defeating enemies. i tried really hard in my life to be good to other people, i studied science instead of finance since i wasn't into enslaving other people...but i find that being fat is the worst.

when i think of all the things i enjoyed...sports, hiking, vacations... the fun part was not the destination or activity. the fun part was being fit and thin.

so fuck it, i'm going to rub everyone else's faces in my warm smelly success, and they're going to thank me and compliment me for it. the law is clear that being a selfish asshole is legal, and in the free market this means that being a selfish asshole is mandatory in fact.

>>13701161
Fuck.

>>13701158
Go to therapy dude, you have depression and binge eating disorder at the bare minimum. Probably some kinda narcissistic shit going on there though, honestly.

>>13698120
Dieting is autistic.

>>13698120
One meal a day is the way to go. Eating 3 small meals is way too much work, I eat one big meal after my workout and before bed, take one big shit in the morning after coffee. 6' 175lbs.

>>13701429
Do you enjoy your life?

Food is all tbe dopamine i get. Also, most fat prople grew up far so its hard for us to eat normally.

>>13702710
>Grew up eating like shit
>Never got fat until way after puberty

>>13699361
That's all of your gut bacteria dependent on simple sugars producing neurotransmitters to get you to continue with your shitty fatty diet. Just push through.

>>13701123
The only good thing about it is that the bigger you are the easier it is to lose weight. Seeing the numbers drop is motivating.

>>13700206
>you can't eat tasty food and be thin
Lel, is this what fatties actually believe?

>>13698120
Nice virtue signaling asshat.

>>13701471
Do you enjoy yours?

>>13698120
Addicts feel intensely depressed or anxious when they attempt to overcome their cravings. The drug of choice provides immediate relief at the expense of long term gain.

>>13698120
Because when you're used to constantly getting endorphin rushes from stuffing food in your mouth, it's like going into rehab to not eat food. You become very irritable and distracted, and the only way you know to fix it is to eat.

ITT: angry fatties getting sucked in by bait.

>>13698835
Reminds me of college
>can of black beans
Mashed with a fork
>ketchup
>Dijon mustard
Mixed in a bowl with garlic and onion powder and wasn’t the worst thing in the world

>>13701158
What the fuck

>>13702753
Yea, because you were growing and using the extra calories during puberty

>>13698120
Being fat is a mental health issue, they are addicted to food just like some people are addicted to cocaine and alcohol.

>>13698120

Whale blubber?

>>13699425

Ballet?

Op here. I’m on day 2. It’s 3pm and I’ve only had 600 calories so far.

>>13704271
what did you eat sexy

>>13701158
Get help man. The life you’re living is not normal and unhealthy

>>13698120
I've never been overweight but I'm pretty sure the obvious explanation is that it isn't the absence of eating that's hard; it's eating that's easy. As in a fat person could sit in a chair and not eat food just fine like anyone else, but the issue is more that at any given moment of any hour of any day of their lives it'll always be super-easy for them to simply grab some instance of the infinitely convenient and accessible modern food supply and eat it.

>>13701168
based

>>13701158
dont let the obesitards get you down, this is all true and extremely based.

>>13701158
A lot of this is true when you're dealing with retarded blue collar plebs but you don't have to be a land whale, dude.

>>13698120
You're not gonna make it, cause you wont be able to eat like this for the rest of your life.
The point is not that it must suck, but to make sustainable changes while preserving your life quality.
You can eat plentiful, healthy and delicious food and lose weight.
Just cut out the garbage.

>>13698120
I literally eat lots of garbage but just exercise a lot. If you run and lift weights good luck eating enough to get fat. Or if you do some sort of martial art like BJJ and weight lifting same thing.

I'm fat because of high inhibition and too much self awareness. I can't talk to people, can't go outside, can't make eye contact, and feel incredibly sad and lonely and food is my only comfort. I'm aware of how stupid and pathetic I am, that I'll never amount to anything and no one wants me to exist, so that also contributes to my desire to eat myself to death. I don't go outside anymore and have absolutely no confidence. I can't imagine someone being obese and flashing their pig teeth into a smile wherever they go. The only person I hate more than fellow swine is myself. You see it's a cycle. I've been fat since I was barely 4, obese actually, and there's no escape. Just one step forward, two steps back until I'm in the grave.

If I lost all that weight, I'd have no fucking clue what to do with that. I'd rather be dead at this point. The only thing that keeps me from free-falling into a rock bottom is the knowledge that I can still walk about a mile to the train tracks near my house, where I can lay down and end this fucking misery.

>>13704666
how did you let it get to that point and do nothing about it you pig human?
I has no self esteem or confidence either but you're fucking pathetic. Fix yourself you worthless waste.

>>13704712
I was raised this way by my mom and dad; I sitll live with my mom and she keeps enabling me. I was 4 and eating a whole large pizza by myself, plus cereal and chocolate milk. Funny thing is, they wouldn't let me have sugary soda, only diet. They're as retarded as I am.
>fix yourself you worthless waste
I am fixed, anon. I'm so fat my testosterone levels are the same as a 90 year old man. No one will ever love me, I'm effecitvely "fixed" or castrated. If you mean the other kind of fix, well, give it a few weeks or months, when the weather warms up, I'll be heading over to the train tracks. I hope my innards look cool splattered across the railroad.

>>13704741
literally dont eat moron

>>13704751
I'd rather be dead. Food is the only thing that makes me happy, nothing else works. I've been to therapy for years, taken pills, been in group homes, forced into dieting, hospitalized, etc. Don't worry, this pig human won't be shitting up these boards or breathing your air soon enough. My only wish is that every other fat person on earth met a similar fate. We're all useless, ugly, disgusting wastes of space.

>>13704772
this is the one life you were given and this is the way you chose to spend it

>>13704772
>>13704741
Is this some kind of sexual humiliation fetish thing

>>13704780
I feel his pain though. I've had a lot taken a way in life and I only enjoy food, booze, and have trouble even liking video games anymore unless I'm playing with a friend. I don't like TV, movies, fishing, hunting, etc anymore.

Without pleasure, what is life? Dude needs a damned hobby though. I get OCD cleaning small trinkets whether or not they have value. Find something to do other than eat.

>>13704772
Stop eating plants you dumb faggot. Plants want to make you miserable and infertile so you die and stop eating them. Eat animals. They spent all their evolution points on running away and fighting back physically instead of chemically (aside from certain wild, non livestock animals). NEVER eat raw plants (aside from some fruit). They are ALIVE and will fight the hardest to stay that way while your stomach acid which has evolved to eat meat struggles to preserve the integrity of it's organs.

Just eat animals. They are delicious and that's all your body is really craving.

Like I have been losing weight making pizza crust out of pork rinds and cheese. And I'm not overweight (dropping my bmi from 23 to 20).

Just eat lots of animals.

>>13704790
No, I just agree with anon. I am an absolute waste of air. You must have never truly hated yourself, anon. I hear bodybuilders say they hate themselves, that's why they push so hard. No, they clearly love themselves, that's why they're working out, getting fit, and enjoying life. I just can't do it. My brain is fucking fried as the food I eat. No amount of mental health help has worked, medical is out of the question. I'd be one of those fatties who ends up gaining weight with a bypass.
>>13704780
Life is a wonderful thing isn't it? I'll never get to experience the best it has to offer. I already missed out on prime years, being in a group home. Fuck it, my life is over, and it was over when my dad first bought me garbage after school every day.
>>13704803
Alcohol makes me bored and sick, video games are boring, TV, movies, outdoors, social stuff, it's all the same. All I day is mindlessly lurk 4chan, post here and there, and eat. I should have been aborted... I'm glad you found something anon.
>>13704852
I tried that, anon. A year ago or so, my mom started cooking steaks and chicken breast and eggs, pure carnivore stuff, for about a week. It was excruciating. My mind was screaming at me to eat something else, anything. I would shovel in 3000 calories of meat a day and the fat would slide right out but I was still ravenous. Maybe this will actually work. But I'm too far along... my brain must be permanently fucked up.

And again, why? What do I get out of losing all this weight? Girls will never ever like me, I'm as putrid on the inside as I am on the outside. I don't give a shit about hiking or fitness or any of that. That's not a reason to live. My brain will be as miserable skinny as I am fat, except I can breathe a bit better and wipe myself easier. All that effort for nothing. I'd much, much, much rather lay down on some train tracks.

>>13704772
Get a couple puppies. Watching them play together is very enjoyable

>>13704852
So youre basically going to just ignore every single meta-analysis that shows the benefits of green vegetables, and how having a diet high in green, cruciferous veggies significantly reduces your risk of dying from most if not all diseases, huh?

>>13704883
>Girls will never ever like me, I'm as putrid on the inside as I am on the outside. I don't give a shit about hiking or fitness or any of that. That's not a reason to live. My brain will be as miserable skinny as I am fat, except I can breathe a bit better and wipe myself easier. All that effort for nothing. I'd much, much, much rather lay down on some train tracks.

I know this feel, bro. I used to be morbidly obese but ended up starving myself to the point that people that hadn't seen me in a year didn't even recognize me. Losing the weight doesn't help - if anything I became an even worse human being from a personality standpoint. I can't really offer you any advice because I think this way from time to time.

>>13704883

protip dude. No one here feels sorry for you. No one is going to convince you to lose weight if you dont actually want to or care.

I can tell you from personal experience that losing weight has literally turned my life around. Ive been browsing this site since like 2005 and i was once a smelly, obese, socially awkward loser. I ballooned to 380 pounds, i was pre-diabetic and still a virgin loser. Then after my parents passed away from being unhealthy and fat their whole lives, i changed my mindset and turned my life around.

Since then ive lost 160 pounds, i have a business and career in fitness, and ive found amazing people to network with to keep growing. This didnt all come just from losing weight and eating better, i gained a fuck ton of self confidence, i feel better, and im just focusing on being better for the rest of my time.

Literally if i can do it, anyone can. You just have to give a shit. If you dont, the last 20 years of your life will be extrememely draining and hard, and youll be dead by 60 like my mom and pops

>>13704901

Everyone dies someday. And desu I prefer how my body digests animal foods as opposed to plants. I actually love vegetables and salad, but eating raw veg always leaves me feeling incredibly sick. Even if it's organic. I'd be more comfortable eating whatever I grow.


btw, I do eat a small amount of green veg every day. Under 185g of it most days, it must be rinsed thoroughly and boiled in broth with animal fat, meat, and egg.

If I eat it any other way I get serious stomach issues.

>>13704883
You don't just eat meat. I eat a good amount of dairy, broth, offals, and animal fats. Just meat will be boring.

>>13698835
>cereal with no milk
cringe

>>13704939
I just was answering OP why some fat people find it diffcult to diet. I'm not fishing for sympathy.
>after my parents passed away
I would die without my mom's assistance, not just with food but nearly everything. I'm retarded. I can't tie my shoes or ride a bike even, let alone get a job or pay bills or figure out how washing machines work. I've been practicing all my life, looked at tutorials online, hell, I've been to a fucking group home for seriously mentally ill kids back in high school where they tried to teach me basic functioning and none of it worked. I fail over and over again and just give up. I'm not going to suffer until age 60, I'll be taking the last train to Clarksville before that.
All I ask for is euthanasia on demand. It would be a lot cheaper to set up government suicide clinics to kill weak useless inferior beings like me than pay for them when they get old and need diabetes medication. In fact, I've already cost the US government at least $400,000 from my group home I went to, alone, not to mention tax payer antidepressants and antipsychotics that did nothing, and all the doctor and psychiatrist and therapist visits. Combined with the cost of my education, at least $1,000,000 in taxes have spent on me. Imagine if the government rounded up all the fat or retarded or mentally ill kids and painlessly euthanized them. The world would be better, I'd die happy, and pretty people wouldn't have to smell or look at me.

>>13704666
>If I lost all that weight, I'd have no fucking clue what to do with that. I'd rather be dead at this point. The only thing that keeps me from free-falling into a rock bottom is the knowledge that I can still walk about a mile to the train tracks near my house, where I can lay down and end this fucking misery.

The train would see your fatass from a mile away at midnight with no moon. It would have plenty of time to stop.

Also nice trips

>>13703741
Yes, I go out to eat with my friends and cook for my family :) I couldn't do these things if I ate one meal a day.

>>13705009
I've already done a test run to see how to position myself and everything. There's an intersection right there with a crosswalk and light. Easy to just stand around waiting like any other pedestrian who crosses there. Timing shouldn't be hard, as soon as it's about 100ft away, that's plenty of time to throw myself down without it slowing in any meaningful measure. I'm a bit worried about a bystander stopping me but thing is, if they tried, the narrow time margin could endager a good samaritan, so no one would likely try. And I don't really care. 60% of Americans are overweight or obese, so chances are they deserve to die too.

>>13705005
you could try losing the weight and start hating other people instead of focusing all of that hate on yourself. I mean, you'll still be a hateful, bitter, and garbage human being but at least you won't be suicidal. Gotta have priorities in life, man.

>>13698120
Why do people care so much if other people are fat? All of us are going to die, if some people get some pleasure in this hellscape from gorging themselves on food and looking gross and dying a little sooner, let them.

Honestly we should master genetic engineering soon so people can all have god metabolisms and just eat all day and still be underweight, it's fucking cash.

>>13704939
Based

>>13705053
>Why do people care so much if other people are fat?
Even in a country like the US where healthcare isn't socialized you still end up paying for fat people because they drive up costs for everyone else's medical insurance.

>>13705053
>Honestly we should master genetic engineering soon so people can all have god metabolisms and just eat all day and still be underweight
That would be trash metabolisms. I hate how the obesity epidemic has warped perception so badly that people actually think NOT being good at extracting energy from food is somehow a positive.

>>13704852
>>13704986
>>13704986
>If I eat it any other way I get serious stomach issues
What the fuck is this pussy ass shit?

>>13705722
it's the new numale tactic

>>13698513
>stupid fucking exercise fights depression meme
I have tried many times to work out and it doesn't make me feel better. If anything, it takes up my time and makes me feel tired and even more depressed because I had to spend a bunch of fucking time doing something I hate doing.

>>13705815
You don't get those rush of endorphins after the shit bit?
Maybe it's genetic; what's the rest of your family like?

>>13699361
I peaked at 31.0 BMI and you have to take it slow at first. I wasnt able to make big cuts until i was down to about 27-28 BMI

Im down to about 23.5 now. Trust me anon, we're all gonna make it

>>13699470
Yup. This is worse than the fat guy posting his bullshit food hauls.

>>13699696
Everything you eat looks fucking disgusting. Learn how to fucking plate if you're going to brag about your meals you fucking attention whore.

>>13705828
Nope, I tried working out and dieting for a good six months and I lost about 15 lbs but I still hated it every fucking time. I just want to be doing anything but that.

It could be genetic but my family is pretty all over the place. Some are or were really obese, and other ones are really fucking skinny.

Now, what I'm pretty sure it is - both my mom and paternal grandmother had severe eating disorders.
My mom was an over eater and my grandma was anorexic. Both consistently tried to push their eating disorders on me when I was child and into my teens until I finally got away from them. But unfortunately, they did a lot of damage because this meant when I was growing up, I was starving myself and then being over fed. So that continued as a bad eating habit and I'm always yo-yo-ing which makes it hard to lose weight in the long run.

>>13702782
Cultured man right here ;)

>>13698120
>those wooden chopsticks soaking in dirty water

>>13705897
What kind of dieting?
What are you eating now?

Because I like food and traditional cooking too much.
Trying to cut calories, eat chicken breast, etc was too difficult so I do OMAD now and eat 1k+ calories in a single meal or sometimes if i'm feeling sick/frail i'll eat oats at lunch.
At 24 bmi rn so i'm still a fat fuck though.

>>13699361
I am obese too, I blame work. The two years I was jobless I had the time to run every day and take my time exercising. When I have to work all I think about is how much I hate working, and if I add a diet to this I always end up getting pissed off and eventually fired. I wish there was a job where I could just be angry without getting fired.”

>>13706094
Look into becoming a repo man.

>>13700470

Not a fatty but I depression-eat sometimes, it’s a real thing.

>>13704939

Oh wow this is so inspiring, where can I buy your book? Fuck off

>>13705815

It really helps if you enjoy what you’re doing beyond just the exertion of it. Like a fun outdoor sport. I can’t stick with gym shit either, but exercise in general is incredibly important to mood

>>13698120
>eating soap

>>13699361
>all the replies to this and not one mention of nutrition

The fuck is this board?
Nutrition. You're not giving your body or brain nutrition which is why you feel like shit and depressed, you retarded fat cunt.

>>13698138
Nothing wrong with cummies for breakfast

>>13700206
cheetos and soda arent tasty fatass your taste buds are just ruined

>>13698835
at least add some fucking tomato sauce jesus

>>13706890
No.
It has to be disgusting or it wont work.

>>13698120
>>13698835
>>13698910
>>13699696
>>13700604
>Imagine having such depressing "meals"

being on a diet doesn't correlate with eating dog food you know, you can still have pleasure eating, it's not forbidden.

>>13707321
No, if you don't suffer, it doesn't count and you wont lose weight.

OP here on day 3. Went on a 4 mile jog this morning and now I’m -600 calories for the day lol.

>>13704666
How do you even afford this? Seriously. Eating so much to stay fat is expensive. How do you do it if you are so ashamed? Or just food stamps?

This thread was intended to bash fat people but has become a critique of OP's frankly depression inducing life.

I mean what fucking cold hearted automaton can eat just a block of tofu AND unseasoned chickpeas as meals.

>>13708115
Someone who is looking to break free from the dopaminergic vices of salt and sugar. Someone who is looking to transcend this plane of mortality and regain the ability to concentrate in a world plagued by modernity.

>>13708115
OP is clearly just some fatass, who has become obnoxiously self congratulatory after dieting for 2 weeks.
He wont stick with it, cause it's dreary and retarded and he clearly just does it for the novelty and to feel superior.
He'll stay fat until his mindset seriously changes.

>>13708133
>Transcend this plane of mortality
>Regain the ability to concentrate
Yknow castration has a very similar effect. You plan to do THAT too?

>>13699434
Same happens to me, and I'm not obese or a sugar addict.
Even if I have a high protein 1200 calories meal I will feel stuffed for 1-2 hour, and hungry again in 4-6 hours (my maintenance is 1400 cals).

What works for me is to only eat when I'm physically hungry, 3-4 times a day, with high quality protein (fish, eggs, meat), fat (nuts, cheese) and a small amount of carbs (vegetables and legumes).

>>13707321
And that's why you're never gonna drops weight.

>>13700503
Skinny person here

No, you don't have to be an alcoholic or a smoker to be thin.
I just eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm not hungry anymore. Rinse and repeat. You can have junk food, just keep it reasonable

Why do fat people find it so difficult to die?
seriously, you won't be missed

>>13708566
Shut up dude that’s fucked up. Being fat is just a symptom of certain dopaminergic pathways being too strong; their appetite has a primitive urgency akin to breathing or sex or water. Perhaps even better if tempered by certain negative life circumstances.

>>13698120
>Pic related is my breakfast.
Why are you eating polystyrene?

Why do fat people trigger you so hard, OP? Ever stop and reflect on your own problems that you project onto other people?

>>13698120
>blogposting about being a functioning human being

>>13704852
This is idiotic advice and nothing more than you announcing you're following a trend and are incapable of understanding nutrition and metabolism. Seriously, you're an idiot, think for yourself more. The fact that you're not eating plants has literally nothing to do with your weight loss, the fact that you're eating less is all that matters. Misrepresenting the actual mechanism through which you lost the weight with some fucking marketing strategy and then sharing it as "advice" is a disservice to people who actually need help. Stop trying to advise people on concepts you don't grasp at an elementary level.

>>13706059
>What kind of dieting?
I've been on so many diets but most recently I was doing low carb because a lot of people I know lost like 50 - 60 lbs doing that. And then keto which I know a lot of really small girls that do keto from time to time when they feel like they start getting too big.

>What are you eating now?
Not good. But I also lost my job and ended a really hard relationship which caused me a ton of stress and made me just "not give a fuck anymore" only, it was not giving a fuck about my diet instead of my emotions. But that's why I'm in therapy now, so I can work on those emotions and get back to eating low carb someday.

>>13703693
I mean you can but good luck feeling satisfied taking one bite of a burger since thats all you're allowed.

>>13710312
>And then keto which I know a lot of really small girls that do keto from time to time when they feel like they start getting too big.
If your diet isn't something you can sustain for the majority of your life, it's a shit diet. Weight comes back when you stop dieting. These girls are the worst rolemodels you could use.

>>13705897
>six months to lose 15 lbs dieting and working out
you weren't doing it right obviously

>>13710494
>These girls are the worst rolemodels you could use
they're smaller than me so it obviously works for them.

Broccoli is good for you, but you don't have to eat it raw stem-first

>>13710524
Yeah, they're smaller than you overall, but they're clearly yo-yo dieting if they need to change their diet entirely (to the point of changing how their entire fucking body metabolises energy) when they "start getting too big".

If their diet was working ideally, they wouldn't start getting big, they'd stay at a stable size.

>>13710524
Yo-yo dieting fucks up your health something awful dude, going from fat to skinny on a regular basis is not good for you. Also very bad for your brain. Don't give yourself an eating disorder.

>>13700683
As someone who routinely "skips" meals this always throws me off. The way people have to organise their lives just to make sure they eat food every 3-5 hours is wild.

>>13710635
It's not just that, it's like that idea never even crosses their mind. Like it's always "What should I eat to lose weight"? What the fuck? Just eat less, or even better, don't eat at all.

>>13710638
>or even better, don't eat at all.
That's how eating disorders form.

>>13710638
T. anorexic

>>13710643
>>13710644
Are you people really this retarded?

>>13710648
Your body needs food to function.

>>13710672
That's why your body also stores excess food in a form of fat, so it can survive if it doesn't get any food at that moment.

because food was pleasure before sustenance. i spent my entire teenage years binging on junk (and hiding it, in fact i dont even remember my binges like it almost was like it didint happen because i repressed it so hard while it was happening and even now). i believe it began because of trying to fill a void because of some bad parenting childhood shit. food tasted good, really good. i had a monkey brain, if something was in sight i had to eat it. the concept of 'for later' did not exist. goes without saying but mental health issues too.

i came to college and started smoking pot and starving myself. i felt like shit but also felt amazing, that high of being empty and floating. again, monkey brain, all or nothing. starve yourself or eat everything. im thin now but my relationship with food is forever fucked up. starving gave me results, so what's to stop me from binging 4000 cals on the weekend and then fasting/sub 500 cals rest of the week? also as someone small who will gain weight by eating more than 1600 cals. yeah shit is hard. i dont know what comfortably full means. i only know stuffed and starving and awkwardly content. in fact after a point binging isnt even about how the food tastes i just need to eat.

one thing that helps is when i stop smoking pot for a bit my appetite decreases so i feel safe eating foods that i could end up binging on because i genuinely dont feel like eating more.

i think skinny people do it by just not thinking about food. for me food is always on my mind. oh except when i have a deadline and im working or basically where my mind is engaged in some other activity. but as a procrastinator im fucked that way too. ill figure it out i guess. meditation or a life crisis or something.

I've known people to eat because they "feel like they have low blood sugar" or "need to keep their blood sugar up," as if their bodies can't be trusted to utilize fat stores for that purpose. Not even diabetics, just morons. These people are lower than animals.

>>13705897
what were the workouts?

>>13710728
>im thin now but my relationship with food is forever fucked up
Nothing is forever, go to therapy.

>>13710728
It sounds like you have ADHD dude.

>>13710877
i have thought about it, but dismissed it/pegged it to other mental health issues. i was a legit smart high iq type teenager but im pretty much after gifted now (dealing with that too), riding on the coattails of what i used to be, in a creative field. what makes you say adhd?

>>13710875
hmm

>>13698835
At least season them you weirdo

>>13707332
Oh yeah I totally ate some decent fruit salad and go directly to my cock and ball torture session. So far I've lost 6 kg in just a month. It works guys, go commit terrorism and turn yourself in so you end up in gitmo. Best fuckin' diet plan I've ever had.

posters like >>13707332 annoy me because they're too tasteless to understand food as an aesthetic outlet and only comprehend it as an energy source. any sane person would balk at the prospect of eating flavourless trash day-in-day-out, and for them it's not a maintainable goal to eat Variations on Gruel #3 every day for a month to shed pounds. totally useless advice

ITT: fat people SEETHING

>>13698835
clean your stove

>>13698515
You are going to make your blood sugar levels resemble a rollercoaster and you may develop the diabetus
This “eat one meal a day” is a meme stupider than keto

>>13711553
sugar industry kike strikes again

>eating healthy and losing weight means I need to give up delicious food

When will this assumption stop? You can eat good food that’s healthy and help you lose weight.

Pic related. Certain foods like avocado are full of nutrients and have a good amount of fat that’s satiating. Salmon is healthy and satiating. Peanut butter is high in fat, but after a couple of scoops, you’re good for hours.

A lot of people have this mindset that to lose weight they need to avoid fatty foods. Fat is what satiates you and controls hunger. I always drink whole milk over 2% or skim milk, and I have peanut butter on whole grain toast or in my oatmeal for breakfast. It holds me over for hours.

I’ve seen people who try to lose weight buy everything low fat or low-calorie and I see them eating snacks every couple of hours, and it’s full of sugar. My mom included.

The problem isn’t fat in foods, the problem is sugar. Eating shit high in sugar can cause a blood sugar crash and trigger hunger.

Do your research as to what goods are satiating and don’t fuck up your blood sugar.

Food, like every other human activity, is about much more than its main function; it can hold a narrative, tell you about the culture or chef who created the dish, et cetera. Eating as just a means for an end and not in some part for the experience does not make you above the rest, it makes you a sad simpleton who thinks hating fun is a way to express self-control.
Gourmands, people who love food, are usually pretty slim, they take their time to appreciate what they are eating and eat until satisfied, they know to wait and only consume what seems promising. Fat disgusting fucks who enjoy eating could not care less about what the dish has to say, they only want to shove food into their mouth-holes so the fats and carbohydrates alone give them superficial pleasure, and eat until they feel too disgusted to eat. They would be able to tell the difference between the finest cheese and a piece of rubber, just like how a dog may eat a prime cut with the same enthusiasm as their own feces.
Truly enjoying food and being a piece of lard are almost always mutually exclusive; there is never excuse to eat bad food.

>>13698910
I hate these people on /aco/, but
>those feet

>>13711593
I should also mention, I don’t exercise but still maintain a BMI of 23. Exercise is still important for your health but not the most important factor in losing weight. I haven’t been able to because I’ve been taking 18-22 units the past few college semesters, but to compensate, I just try to eat right.

Ultimately, losing and maintaining weight relies on your diet, not exercise. Exercise can assist with the weight loss, but if you eat like shit, no amount of exercise can fix a bad diet.

>>13698910
A dumbass zoomer, i expected it desu. NGMI btw

>>13711593
If you don't suffer and the food tastes good, you are doing it wrong and wont lose weight.

>>13712152
nigga i lost fucking 10 kgs by just counting calories and eating the fucking same

which translated to just eating less and hitting the gym

>>13698120
>Why do fat people find it so difficult to diet?
fat and fructose is addictive.
Mass media is filling their heads with dis info about fat and dieting.
To diet successfully, fat intake must be cut to a bare minimum. Eat large amounts of starch instead - potatoes, oatmeal, beans, some breads, squash. starch is very filling, is a clean energy source, and is easy for the body to digest. fat is not.

>>13698846
>Poster eats no brekkies
>Calls him fat
Anon, are you retarded?

>>13712170
Doing it wrong and will always hit a point of diminishing returns.
The food has to be bland. Even using salt makes you weak.
Boiled chicken breast and broccoli.
If you have a day of being weak willed, you can add a splash of soy sauce to get through it, but you will lose all my respect.

>>13712217
sprinkle aspartame on stuff. healthier than salt.

>>13701158
i have no idea if you're saying you'll get thin again, or you are staying fat

>>13703720
t.lardass

>>13712392
who pays you to make these posts?

>>13708115
>>13708133

I know I'm on /ck/ but eating is just a bodily process like shitting, breathing, and fucking. It doesnt have to be pleasurable every fucking time.

>>13712392
Does that taste good?

>>13710728
>1600 cals
dude how small ARE you? Wont judge im a manlet

>>13710352
>you can't eat a whole burger and be thin
Again, is this what fat people actually believe? Did you never see a thin person eating a burger? Do you believe thin people cut a burger like a cake and eat it in small portions throughout a week or something?
Oh, I get it, fatties are notoriously unreliable when it comes to assessing how much you eat so when they say they had "a bite of a burger" they may have had three burgers.

>>13698152
Eating your sadness wont make you feel better in the long run, buddy. Eat healthy and go to sleep with that satisfaction, it’ll be a little better.

>>13698120
I'm a fat fuck and I've always struggled with moderation no matter my diet. It's in my head, I'm a sad and anxious dude and eat/drink my emotions away. I've finally been able to kick booze, but still struggled with food. I've had success (40 lbs down) with fasting/skipping meals. I just have coffee (cream, no sugar) and nicotine throughout the day and at 5pm-8pm I'll eat a normal meal. My stomach must shrink because I'm full and satisfied after smaller portions than I used to eat.
I don't do moderation well. A mid day snack would turn into a bit all person's meal. I can just shut down the urge if I don't start, which is what I learned with alcohol and applied to food.

>>13712487
Big Mac isnt a good burger. A REAL burger is 1500+. Big Macs are practically salads.

>>13712826
Can we just nuke America from orbit already? You guys are too far gone.

>>13712563
Go to therapy. Stop thinking you have to power through this shit on your willpower alone.

>>13711593
reddit: the post

>>13710559
You must have missed the post before from me where I talked about my grandma and mother both imposing anorexia and over eating on me, causing me to yo-yo diet since I was 8 years old.

>>13710559
Yes, I'm aware. Also the girls I"m talking about aren't even getting that big. Both of them have also had kids in the past and I haven't. So that's a huge difference in what happened to their bodies and what happened to mine.
But everyone I know who lost 50 - 60lbs, did it through low carb and they didn't yo-yo diet like I have been doing since I was child.

>>13710783
Stretches that were recommended directly from my doctor, running and walking, crunches, bridges and something else that I can't remember the name of. Involved being on my knees and rolling forward.

I did minimal work outs cause it was too time consuming. It's easier to diet except not just this moment.

A lot of people I know just lost weight from dieting and no work out so I want to do that.

>Tfw former fatty that lost 80 pounds
CiCo is the only thing that matters for losing weight and anything else is either a scam, or the wishful thinking of some retard.

>>13698120
If you wanted to lost weight you could literally drink water instead of eating cum cubes fatty

>>13698120
dieting is for bitches. just fast regularly and keep sugars out then eat as much as you want without cucking yourself to calorie counting like a homo

>>13714975
>Keep sugars out
Sounds like some self-cucking right there.

Stop looking for fast methods to lose weight through massive lifestyle changes. You will burn out and fail, even if the methodology is sound (which is almost definitely is not).

Sustained weight loss comes from making small changes every day, and learning to *sustain* those changes through habit development, Your brain is utterly shit at changing habits if you try to go all in, you will crash and burn, and even if you get some good weight loss you'll end up yo-yo dieting.

Cutting out foods you enjoy eating is a sure-fire way to make yourself miserable, and when you're miserable, you want to eat. See the conundrum? Just eat less of the unhealthy shit, don't eliminate it entirely. Maybe have a cheat day, some people find that helpful, some don't.

I've lost 55 kilos and kept it off for four years through calorie counting, eliminating calorie dense stuff I know I won't miss (soda, fruit juice), maintaining a balanced, light exercise routine, and making sure the healthy food I eat is nice stuff that I actually *want* to eat, not flavourless self-torture food.

Keto works. Intermittent fasting works. Eliminating all junk food works. For a while. Unless you have an iron will (you don't, you're depressed and post on 4chan, your willpower is below average), you will burn out on these restrictive eating practices because they just amplify your misery. A diet that works for six months is a shit diet, you need something you can sustain for your *whole life*, or at least until you're 50, happily settled into your life and don't give a shit about your waistline anymore.

>>13715172
As a quick addendum, learning to cook and developing it into a genuine hobby you're passionate about helps tremendously with weight loss. If you're invested in the healthy foods you're making and actually enjoy the process of exploring new home made meals, it'll make skipping out on the chicken nuggets and the fast food burgers that much easier.

Hopefully goes without saying on /ck/ of all places but a lot of you seem dedicated to making the process of making and eating food into some kind of elaborate act of self-flagellation.

Also if you think you have genuine disordered eating issues, go to fucking therapy you dork, you're not gonna will yourself out of neurological problems.

Calories out > Calories in *is* true, but the part they don't tell you is that a basic height/weight equation is never going to give you an accurate TDEE unless you're the most statistically average motherfucker in the world.

>>13700506
walking all day does not consume 2k calories unless you're doing it up Everest

>>13712217
> salt makes you weak
Not eating salt makes you dead.

>>13699697
t. Embarrasing zoomer

>>13715591
It's okay, you can admit you have a problem.

>>13713586
Lmao, who could even do that besides America.

>>13701161
kek based

>>13701158
looks like these mental gymnastics are the only gymnastics you'll ever do in your life, tubs

>>13713586
We are unstoppable.

>>13698394
Work on phasing out sweets in general like sweet beverages and candy. I'll be making some roasted acorn squash today with some apples, raisins, and brown sugar, so it's not like I've sworn off sugar, but I find it best to never have sweetened drinks, simple candies, and to think of "dessert" or "sweets" as a "treat" meaning not a daily occurrence. Fake sugar counts, tastes disgusting, and does nothing to improve your habits and reliance on sweet things.

>>13699697
Waste NOT waist!

>>13700431
I would have thought you'd need a lot more daily calories too, but this is still abominable. When someone is this weight, having been steadily gaining this weight over a decade or two, it means they always, ALWAYS, eat about at least this much daily without EVER physically exerting themselves enough to negate the calorie intake. You can burn a surprising amount of calories from doing regular house and yard chores, errands, standing for a lot of the day (jobs that require standing or choosing a standing desk), taking stairs over elevators, and generally not being a lazy fat fuck. And typically people have plenty of days where they don't consume massive amounts of calories that help balance out days that they eat more.

Literally just don't eat breakfast at all, it's totally fine to not eat until the afternoon. I skip breakfast basically every day just so I don't have to bother with it.

I only eat once a day and sometimes I even skip that one meal because I'm too lazy to cook. So I'll regularly go 36 hours between meals just because. 120LBs/55KG. My one meal is usually between 1500-2500 calories or something (estimated, i don't actually count)

>>13698120
>Why do fat people find it so difficult to diet
>pic related
Why do you find it so difficult to diet! I've been getting ready for summer by limiting to 1500kcal a day and I eat a shit ton better than that. A piece of toast topped with a scrambled egg and a side of coffee is a filling breakfast and is only like 350kcals. Plus its quick to make.

>>13699425
Having a 9' BBC rammed in your ass will make you walk like that.

As a skinny dude, I've only just realized that a lot of fat people have food on their mind constantly. What their next meal is going to be, how good it's going to taste, etc. I only think about food when I feel hungry and then after I eat I don't think about food at all until I'm hungry again.

>>13698120
I am genuinely never hungry. Sometimes the thought of eating makes me gag, no matter what it is. I have to force myself to eat every day. I have no idea why. I'm usually running around like mad at my job but it is kind of stressful so I think it's that.

>>13700974
I drink a lot of black coffee throughout the day