/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13608149
why does Michigan get two parts?

>>13608151
You're thinking of the Dakotas.

You go into Ohio and get Cincinnati chili.

Detroit style pizza, of course.

why are people so negative about places of residence? it's Michigan, not Sudan

literally nothing worthwhile here unless you like "muh breweries" or people larping as Hollanders

>>13608149
Pi’s thai cuisine
Buddy’s pizza
O.W.L
Lafayette Coney Island
China cafe
Menna’s Joint
CJ’s Brewery
Grey Ghost
One Eyed Betty’s
The Fly Trap
Vinsetta Garage
Selden Standard
Mabel Grey

That’s a good list covering different price points and levels of of formality.

Walleye cheek

>>13608151
Because ohio was literally being Michigan's asshole older brother over Toledo so the federal govt gave Michigan the upper peninsula

>>13608149
Pasties
Also
UP is rightful Wisconsin clay

Detroit style pizza
Coney Island restaurants
Greek food
Arab food

Of course, there is just about literally everything else too , but those are the specialties you won't find much of elsewhere.

MI chili dog is better than a OH chili dog.

>>13608149
Mom grew up in the U.P. so local diners and pasties and potato sausage is the best ever. If your lucky a Squach will join you for dinner too.

>>13608224
Isn't this just Sicilian pizza? Why is Detroit trying to claim they invented it?

Asparagus
Double-baked rye bread (best with garlic butter and grated horseradish spread)
Detroit-style pizza

And a couple of nice old-school Chinese restaurants in rural areas.

It needs more improvement, I should say

>>13609314
It's got crisper edges from cheese caramelizing on the edges of the pan

Look for a polish market if they haven’t already been taken over by sheep shaggers. A lot of good polish sausage, kishka, cabbage rolls and punchkeys come out of Michigan.

Aidrian here. Bunch of good Mexican food in my area

>>13608149
Nothing. The water in the entire state is riddled with PFCS and other bullshit now it's not worth the risk

>>13609314
Different pizzas bro.

>>13609553
Not really. >>13609369 seems to be the only difference and calling it an entirely different style is a stretch.

>>13609564
It's not a stretch. "Detroit style pizza" is not called such because of the square shape, that is incidental, and the only thing the two have in common.

Detroit style pizza is always square, but it's not the shape that makes it noteworthy. The crust, or lack thereof of a crust, is literally the point. The crust is crispy and crunchy and lined with cheese to the end that becomes basically a well done cheese cracker. That is the entire defining factor of "Detroit style", if your pizza doesn't have that kind of crunchy and well done cheese crust, it's not that.

>>13608149
Hit Lawry's pasty shop near Ishpeming. Dee-fucking-licious.

>>13608149
OLIVE BURGERS

>>13609564

Sicilian pizza needs to be served on a horse head, in bed.

dead negroids on the side of the road
here's a recipe
>1. locate dead negroids
>2. skin negroid
>3. gut negroid
>4. cut feet off and let drain
>5. cut legs at the joint and reserve
>6. cut ribs off and reserve
>7. cut head off and feed to other hungry negroids
>8. remove arms but also feed to hungry negroids
>9. smoke negroid legs for 8 to 10 hours with hickory wood and a spice rub of your choosing
>10. enjoy
Note: The smell of caramelized negroid legs will attract live negroids be ready to shoot them.

>>13609785
>I am 12
Pay attention in class, kid.

>>13609785
Now THIS is what a real 4channer looks like!

>>13609794
bro im 13 and 1/2 what the heck

Go to Sault Ste. Marie and hunt deer. Or fish.

>>13609837
The sniff your sister's panties age.. ahh the memories.

>>13608149
Depends on what part of Michigan you're in. Detroit and the area around it have a wide range of food from greasy spoon Coney Diners to upscale boujie nonsense like Chartreuse.

If you're from out of state, definitely check out the middle eastern restaurants since they're criminally underrated. Yemen Cafe in Hamtramck is great and stupid cheap for the quality of food you get. If you've got a big group and give them notice, you can get a whole roasted lamb for a pretty reasonable price.

>>13608149
You can go to a fish fry with Joe Perra and his nana.

>>13608149
Honestly just go to Culver’s and then leave. Lived in Grand Rapids for two years and it was shit. I also grew up in England and Michigan pasties are absolute shit. Great state if you’re an alcoholic tho, breweries everywhere

why in the fuck would anybody go to the lower peninsula? also, the pasty.

who sells pasties in grand rapids
always with the pasty meme
never seen/heard of such a thing in my life

Ypsilanti- the best pizza of my life.

>>13609111
Did you post About pi’s thAi in that pad Thai thread the other day? I responded but you didn’t reply.
Stop telling people about it it’s busy enough!!

sandwiched between Grand Rapids and the lake, as someone who didn't grow up here but might get stuck here I want to thank everyone in this thread, I've been up here for three years and haven't found any passable food yet, especially in this bumfuck college town lol

>>13608201
Stop inviting people to Ohio, not everyone wants to be killed and eaten, unless you tell them to go to Holmes county or something for the cheese.

>>13609746
Hell yeah. I didn't think I'd like them but a good olive Burger is fantastic

>>13610390
Maybe. Pi’s has come up a few times on this board in threads about Michigan restaurants.

>>13610612
>not everyone wants to be killed and eaten
I got a butcher shop to run, so keep out of it.

>>13608149
Pasties in the UP

White Horse Inn

>>13608149
Depends entirely on the general region of the state, unless you're willing to drive anywhere within a fucking 8 hour radius. Southeastern MI, where I live, has a ton of great Mediterranean and Asian places. Then you've got various well known restaurants: Lipuma's coney, Slow's Barbecue, Mercury Bar, Noble Fish, One Eyed Betty's, probably a bunch more but those are the ones I've been to. There's also a Fogo de Chao in Troy, it's not MI-exclusive but the food is good nonetheless. Up in Mackinaw City, there's Scallawag's Whitefish and Chips, which is probably the best place in MI to get fish and chips from. Went there once about 2 years ago, the fish was really fresh and they didn't fucking overcook the hell out of it like some places do.

>>13612581
>Slow's Barbecue
Slows is overrated as fuck. They definitely started phoning it in the second they got national acclaim

>>13613447
Agreed.

>>13612581
Ann Arbor area is the biggest food desert in Michigan prove me wrong. Tell me where to go down here

>>13609704
It's a pan pizza with more cheese, that's it.

>>13608149
The Humble Turkey Club.

>>13608149
Is pic supposed to look like pink wojak ?

>>13609224
>but those are the specialties you won't find much of elsewhere.

Do flyovers actually believe this? Anything you can find in the midwest you can find in any non-flyover state. I don't even live in the main city of my non-flyover state and I can find dozens of quality Greek/Arab restaurants in a 10 mile radius of my house. Detroit style pizza is just burnt pan pizza and "coney island restaurants" are just hotdog stands that put chili, onions and mustard on a hotdog and call it "original".

Not really known as a state for food. The UP has supper club culture, so think Friday night fish fries with Lake Superior whitefish or yellow lake perch, Saturday night prime rib with relish bar, etc. Pasties are a regional specialty, but it’s just like a meat pie. Some of the resort towns have nice farm to table restaurants. There’s decent brewery/gastropub type food around the state. Michigan is mostly a meat and potatoes kind of state. There’s decent food to be found in most places, but there’s not really a respected culinary tradition to speak of.

You can tell how the state culinary tradition is by this thread, a guy literally said there’s a Gogo de chao in Troy, as if that was actually a restaurant worth mentioning. It’s like saying theirs a Ruth’s Chris In Grand Rapids that’s good. Michigan has a lot of kitschy tourist places where the menu hasn’t changed in 50 years, but that doesn’t mean it’s interesting food at all.

I love Michigan, but the food leaves a little to be desired.

Alright people who clearly don't live in Michigan.

>smelt
>venison
>fresh salmon
>pike
>sturgeon
>duck
>bear
>beaver

All that said, if you are relying on grocery stores and diners, rest in peace. This is a flyover as fuck state.

>>13609224
There’s greek and arab food literally everywhere on the east coast you dumbass. Even my podunk town in nowhere north florida has a stellar greek place.

>>13608149
That's a nice picture of Michigan :D

>>13613872
You're a complete larper. Smelt isn't nearly what it used to be 30 years ago because they simply aren't there in the numbers they used to be. Smelting used to be a night time tradition, but unfortunately is rare to find nowadays. Venison is plentiful and often eaten. Salmon isn't even native to the state (not that there's anything wrong with it). Pike isn't that widely eaten because it has such bony flesh. Sturgeon fishing is highly restricted because of overfishing, so good luck getting any. Bear is highly restricted as well, only a limited number of tags and few bear hunters. I've never heard of anyone eating beaver, most people trap it for the fur.

Just how much of a dumbfuck larper are you?

I miss Small Plates in Detroit :(

>>13609916
Based

>>13609136
>UP is rightful Wisconsin clay
go fuck yourself nobody here wants to be associated with wisconsin

>>13609111
Lived in Michigan my whole life. Never heard of any of these except coney island.

>>13609298
Where abouts?
I'm from Newberry area.

>>13609922
That's your fault for living in a hippy city.
>my microbrews are the best
Glad you left.

>>13608149
In Lansing there's meat bbq, good truckin diner, and Charlie kang's. Those are the three places I enjoyed most while I was at MSU

>>13615324
Ironwood

>>13615317
Did you live u dear a culinary rock? I also forgot Las Palapas. Just got back from having dinner there. 40 minute wait for a table on a Tuesday night.

>>13615317 #
Did you live under a culinary rock? I also forgot Las Palapas. Just got back from having dinner there. 40 minute wait for a table on a Tuesday night.

>>13610390

No, that was me.

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>>13616279

>"Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspic."


I seek a pleasant peninsula.
Look but you!

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>>13616293
Overrated imo. O.W.L is my favorite. I like the food, I like the atmosphere, I like the style of the place. You go there at night and run into people you know or meet new people out on the town for the night after a few drinks. Everything is jammed together so you have to acknowledge the people sitting beside you because you’re literally going to be rubbing shoulders. It’s not quite communal table style eating but it definitly encourages patrons to interact with each other. Lots of good stuff on the menu. I will take one of their jalapeño bacon cheeseburgers with some chihuahua cheese and a old fashioned glass bottle coke over a red coat tavern burger any day.

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>>13616304
Was there two weeks ago.

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>>13616333
>not posting Dearborn

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>>13616276
Kuhnhenn has REALLY gone downhill the past few years. Basically right after they opened up their Clinton Township location they stopped doing as many cool festivals as they used to and are now just trying to pump out as much DRIPA for cans as they can.

>>13616396

I don't go to festivals so that's not an issue for me and Kuhnhenns still makes great beer.

Seems like this is the last post for me, Captcha is fucking me with multiple unsolvable pics....

Dunno why I should be punished for posting on-topic pic?

>>13616395
Damn it’s been a minute since I had city chicken.

>>13616424

There used to be a great little hole-in-wall Polish restaurant on Van Dyke just north of 11 Mile run by these two young q.t. Polish immigrant girls (I think they were sisters?) and everything they made was great and they also hado really good zurek (sour rye soup) and city chicken. Then one day I pulled in to get some food and there was a piece of loose-leaf paper taped in the door saying “out of business” written in Sharpie marker and that was that.

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>>13615317
A lot of those places such as Grey Ghost, Mabel Grey, and Selden Standard only opened in the past ten years.

>>13616466
Running a restaurant is a tough business. You can cook great food and still find yourself closing your doors just from poor management.

>>13616482

its only bad because of the niggers and other various forms of dark shade trash

t.saginaw

>>13616507

I guess, though they were constantly busy, especially as they were just down the road from the GM Tech Center.

>>13616508

Dunno if this old guy is still in business?

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>>13616530

Why does it seem like there are a disproportionately massive amount of Michiganders on /ck/? Every other thread someone says that they're from Michigan, the only other states I see get anywhere near as much representation here are New York, California, and Florida

I'm even from Michigan myself

>>13613739
literally delusional. you can get whatever the hell you want around here. the only shit i miss from traveling is geographically rare shit like it's hard to find good seafood

ypsi is better than ann arbor proper though. way better

>>13616526
What does Raccoon taste like?

>>13616549

Dunno, never had it? But that guy was on the news and he had possum also.

>>13616537
There is definitly a disproportionately large amount of Michiganders on /ck/. I attribute it to Detroit’s rise as a growing culinary hotspot.

>>13609314
completely different crust, you're getting autistically hung up on them both being square shaped

>>13616615
That’s all they have to argue on. Detroit pizza will take its rightful place among the regional pizza styles eventually.

>>13613739
Get yourself a barrel full of ramen from Tomokun for $8, you fucking fag.

>>13609922
>visit midwest
>get told to try Culvers by literally anyone
>fucking milkshakes are made with custard and are trash
>fries are forgettable
>burgers are fine but that's about it

Probably safe for anyone going to Michigan to just skip Culvers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mknP9XvHhuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCCcxlKzDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1HSZ-c7yPE

>>13616647
Is there really Culver’s hype out there? I mean it’s ok but I wouldn’t be telling anyone to go out of there way to eat there.

>>13616650
Apparently the guy that makes those lives just a few streets over from me. He even uses my family's church as a backdrop in one of his videos making fun of Feiger

>>13616661
It's the midwest equivilent to Whataburger - better than McDonalds, but not by a lot and revered due to mostly regional pride

>>13616650
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCCcxlKzDU
Downriver truly feels like the trashy southern area of Detroit.

>>13608149
Dearborn

>>13616242
I grew up. In Newberry in the UP then moved to Portland. Both are in my mind very basic places to live.

>>13616777
Dearborn is a Muslim shit hole and every sand nigger there should be wiped off the map.

>>13609517
nah, detroit water system feeding oakland county is golden, as usual.

>>13612581
>slows
very meh

>noble fish
on point fren. noble fish is the tits.

>One Eyed Betty's
it's literally just a random bar that serves a halfway decent selection of craft beer. clubhouse BFD a little ways north has a much better rotating selection (although it's where all the old people live, you can catch a qt from oakland u. there sometimes).

for me it's
xochimilco
roma cafe
livernois tap (when it was still open)
redcoat (woodward, not the other one)
crow's nest (if I'm in the zoo)
food dance (if I'm in the zoo and i've had crows already 5 times that week and somehow my wallet is feeling too heavy)

>>13613852
>fogo de chao in Troy
lol I've lived in Troy 19 years and have never heard it mentioned more than twice. Been to the Alibi more, although they're nothing special, just consistently decent pizza.

>>13616351
>chic hipster place
>built inside the hollowed corpse of the onion roll
>russian dude named Alex was there every day, making the best lean corned beef anyone's ever had
>my dad ate there every friday for decades
>beer cooler where the slicer used to be.
I need to stop, I'm getting emotional. Imagine the backlash if they closed lafayette coney island and opened a second owl location there, it's basically the same tier of loss.

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>>13618194
I'll let you guys in on a secret though: if you want some real solid southern-style fried pickles/okra, check out the jolly old timer's club. It seems sketchy as fuck at first, but they're nice people if you're not a cunt.

>>13618194
>livernois tap (when it was still open)

I like that Eastern Market Brewing bought it out and managed to make it even more fucking pretentious.

>>13618214
I was always confused why they didn't use more of the sign. Like it looks incredibly halfassed to the point that I just sorta assumed that it was under construction for a year or so whenever I passed by on woodward

>>13608149
Turkey sandwich from a Meijer deli

>>13608149
The food at Batch Brewing is great if you can get over their weird "WE'RE DETROIT TOUGH NOW SIP SOME ARTISINAL ALES" image

Around Detroit, literally any Jewish delicatessen. Get yourself a reuben with brisket, pastrami or corned beef. Shit is soooo good.

>>13616293
Royal oak brewery sucks but I haven’t been there in like 7 years desu
Just go to rock on 3rd instead

>>13616647
Lived in Michigan my whole life and I’ve never been to Culver’s

>>13618214
Fuck your deli. I’ll take O.W.L.’s chicken fried chicken any day of the week.

>>13616737

funny
the Trade Center has been closed for a while though

Crispelli’s is great.

>>13619179
It's ok. The problem isn't the quality of the food, it's the price they charge for it. I would go to the Woodward location more often if it wasn't $9 for a ceaser salad with no chicken. Pizza is hard to get there when buddy's is literally another mile down the road for the same price.

>>13616647
Unbased and soypilled

Men eat custard milkshakes. Also culvers has amazing cheese curds. Why are you pretending like it isn't the best fast food chain out there when it objectively is

>>13619241
Not him but i rarely eat fast food. Metro Detroit has a ton of great locally owned eateries. I find it hard to spend $10 at taco Bell when I can sit down at little brothers burgers and have three cheeburgers, fries, a drink and a conversation with the other people in the place.

>>13615317
go outside, loser
lmao

>>13619205
Considering it’s in Royal Oak, I’d say it’s among the less expensive options.

How many posters in this thread are actually from Michigan? It’s bizarre to me that there’d be so many /ck/ posters living in a food desert.

https://www.strawpoll.me/19351878

>>13619387
>100 replies in under a minute
Is strawpoll fucked or something?

>>13619299
>a conversation with the other people in the place
And I'm sure it's a witty, riveting conversation, full of original thought, lol!
>hey Cletus. Cold 'nough for you today?
>sho' is a snippy one out there.
>yep
>hmmm, yeah
>welp, yuh see the [insert latest sports event obsession]?
>yup, how about 'dat [insert exciting play/player antics]
>etc.
An ephemeral epiphany, to be sure!

>>13619417
Not everyone is a neet

don't know their secret, but they always taste better made

>>13619932
Sorry but bettermade sucks.

>>13609111
Hell yeah dude I’ve had most of these and they are a good representation.

>>13608149

https://www.cherryhut.com

>>13618194
Guess I should mention I only went to One Eyed Betty's once and it was for breakfast. The breakfast was pretty fucking good.

>>13619387
>food desert
There has been over a hundred suggestions, all for great fucking food, in this thread. Quit being such a raging, false-flagging coastie or open your fucking eyes.

>>13619932
BBQ is my favorite

>>13619932
Used to love these as a kid, but honestly they suck. Especially compared to Cape Cod chips which you can get at any Meijer all over the state. Downey's salt & vinegar are also god tier but I only ever see those in select Kroger locations.

>>13616508
Ayy is this the Chesterfield location? I think that’s the taekwondo place in the background.

>>13616537
I am also from Michigan and browse here semi-frequently. I have also noticed this, but it seems like Michigan threads on most boards that have anything like them are pretty popular

>>13616647
I feel like Culver’s just came out of nowhere in the past ten years and now they’re all over the place here in MI. It’s decent food but it makes me feel kinda sick afterwards almost without fail so I avoid it most of the time and certainly wouldn’t recommend any fast food place to anyone.

>>13616537
MI is a hot bed of degeneracy. I mean actual degeneracy, not like the kind where people call faggots degenerates. Plus, despite the naysaying faggots, there is a lot of decent food culture here.

>>13609111
menna's closed in East Lansing last year and we haven't recovered

>>13619417
>rednecks

nowhere to be found for ~10 miles in any direction. Royal oak is liberal or diverse (the arabs and chaldeans are low-key very conservative I think. They just neeeever talk about it).

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>>13608149
It's the best god damn state in the Union, anyone who says otherwise is a faggot from Ohio

>>13619179
Their bakery is pretty good but everything else is okay

>>13620445
Absolutely based.

>>13617873
I actually liked Dearborn. The Hookah lounges were comfy and the Muslims there seemed pretty chill. Leagues nicer than a lot of the white cities in that part of the state.

Anything in the Lansing area itself that's decent?

>>13620742
Satanists

I don’t get the hype around Buddy’s. I’ve had it before and it was pretty underwhelming.

>>13622281
t. tastelet

Why are there so many Michigan anons?

>>13622457
leaving the house is so boring I just shitpost on 4chan for a decade
boomers climb up in trees to wait for deer to walk by for excitement

>>13620742
I really really miss Wings Over East Lansing
also Conrad's Grill. they put tator tots in a chicken wrap, very based
and they have a cheddar's I think....RIP other cheddar's locations...

>>13610211
where in ypsi

>>13608149
Dia Mia pizza
Blue Moon ice cream
Duck eggs
Pickled eggs
Pickled duck eggs
Any of the restaurants in Crystal Falls

>>13609122
You mean they threatened to block statehood after we stopped pussy footing around and shot after they started a dick measuring contest by bringing a militia.

>>13623357
Does anyone really give a shit. The only difference between us and Ohio is that Ohio is slightly more of an overurbanized hellscape than we are.

>>13623420
Don’t you fucking dare compare Ohio to us.

>>13623432
At least it’s not Indiana.

>>13623464
Hoosier here. This state sucks ass but I've been to Ohio several times and it's basically the same thing. There really is no difference outside of the fact that Ohio has a few more large cities.

>>13610211
Dom's donuts

>>13623484
What do Ohioans taste like? Is their meat more or less salty than Indianans?

>>13623505
They taste more or less the same. However, the marbling on the average Hoosier tends to be slightly better due to a more steady diet of fast food, pepsi, and pork grinds.

>>13623529
>grinds
lol I meant rinds but I'm drunk fuck you assholes

>>13623532
So what you’re telling us is that you come pre-marinated?

>179 replies
>no mention of Zingerman's
God damn they're a bunch of commie fucks and I swore off going there for good when my food was served to me by a tranny last time, but their sandwiches are almost delicious enough for me to regret that and go back, and that's saying something.

Do the two Michigan halves hate each other and think they're the better Michigan?

>>13620181
Culver's is a WI based chain, of course it came out of nowhere for you, Michigan folk are indoor dwelling degens.

>>13623584

There’s a friendly rivalry and teasing back and forth but Yoopers are still traitors for supporting the Packers over the Lions.

>>13610422
Shit dude I know where you live because I live there lmao. But go to Salvatore’s on the Westside of GR. Amazing Italian

>>13615324
Not that guy, but Manistique here

>>13623584
No, the UP is pretty sparsely populated and seen as an innawoods type vacation spot for people in the LP, and people living in the UP are pretty happy to keep to themselves, if they didn't enjoy the quiet lifestyle they'd move

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>>13625387
The UP is also populated by shut-in engineering students at Michigan Tech who are all basically autists

>>13623581
I only go on Tuesdays

>>13623988
Can't thank you enough, I need a place to actually go out to that isn't the Freddy's on the way to Meijer

>>13608149
Take a tip from Flint, and try lead, I guess? Fuck living in Michigan.

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>>13620445

Nigger Pizza.

>>13625743
The lead pill is the best solution for that state up north.

>>13625757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVBATYWFKp8

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>>13612581
cannot believe you didnt post Imperial, that place is cash even if they just upped their prices a bit.
>>13616537
its really quite bizarre, especially ferndale people seem to be here a lot

>>13626206
Well it’s where the young people are moving too. It’s already become unaffordable except for the run down places close to 8 mile. Ferndale housing is pretty much at royal oak prices.

>>13625591
What happens on Tuesdays? I'm only ever passing through Ann Arbor on weekends.

>>13626878
No tranny Tuesday’s.

>>13625637
If you like slop-of-shit Mexican food that tastes great but doesn't look the part, try the Adobe In-and-Out. Their chicken dip is hit-or-miss, but their deluxe wet burrito is great. Apparently the Beltline Bar has a good one as well, though I've never been.
Also special mention to the Interurban Depot Cafe in Marne, not as much for the quality (it's okay) as for the sheer size of their Buster Burger and their Jumbo Jimbo dog. It's an experience.

>>13608149
Semen

Little Caesars hot and ready pizzas and Subway, when it was still 5 dollars for a foot long.

There are lots of good lakeside fried fish places run by homely, racist milfs in west Michigan that I like to visit now and then. Also the wet burrito in Kalamazoo is a dirty, disgusting den of inequity and I love it. Never been so turgid and disgusted at the same time.

>>13609746
Based.

The sandwich “sketches of winkle” at Short’s in Bellaire is so delicious

>>13625457
No surprise. All their ancestors are Finnish.

>>13612581
>lipumas coney
Best Chicago dog I’ve ever consumed in my ENTIRE LIFE
god bless tony lipuma

Cross into Windsor and eat in the country that handles food better

>>13627067
Windsor stinks bro

>>13627067
Canadians fucking suck m8

>>13627067
downtown detroit is mostly white and actually pretty nice nowadays. windsor is a shithole