/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I <3 coffee

>>13564513
Anyone use a manual espresso machine?.

>>13564523
Yes.

Like coffee
HATE NIGGERS

>>13564427
I'm currently drinking a washed Guatemalan for espresso, and a Balinese light roast for filter.

>>13564523
I'm so fucking close to pulling the trigger on the new Flair - anyone got one, or one of the old ones?

Will the french press give me a better cup than a moka pot? Provided I use the same beans, that is.

>>13565739
Depends on what you like about your coffee. Moka pots give you something more akin to espresso while not being actual espresso; French press will give you something closer to filter though (depending on the particular one you buy) with a certain amount of sediment that changes the mouthfeel.

Are you looking for something with texture or something that emphasises clarity? Another easy and inexpensive option is a V60.

>>13565739
Not better, just different.

>>13565602
The NEW new ones have a slightly different portafilter and silicone grips and shit. you can get the one before that. I've got the original skinnier pf and its still fine. I'd go scratch and dent on one of the newer ones if you can afford to wait a little bit.

>>13564427
can any of you spergs recommend your favorite roaster in the US that ships to NY?

Yesterday I put ground up Cookie Crisp and cream in my coffee to try and make it taste like cookies and cream but it wasn't good

Bump

I've been Inspired by Balzac and trying his brew method of 2.5 Gramms to 1 ounce

>>13567970
Post body. Hoping for pic related (thirsty)

>>13564427
Why are coffeefags always up their own asses?

>>13564559
>>13569366
Cos coffee-makers like to play with toys

>>13569366
jealous?

>>13569453
Not really. I just wanna know what it is that fascinates you to the point that you've all felt the need to add so much pomp and circumstance to your bean water cult rituals.

>>13569453
yes, I am kind of jealous of your gayness.

>>13569568
I do it for the lulz

redpill me on cowboy coffee and why it's superior to all other methods

>>13569802
Its not.

>>13569568
It's like having Your Brand of cigarettes or something man. Once you build an addiction around a particular set of objects and methods there's no going back.

>>13564427
>no coffee shop nearby
>no coffee maker at home
I should buy one, but I have no idea which one to get. I do love me some Lungo and Cappuccino.

>>13564427
just store bought instant freeze dried coffee.
only it's not flashing it with boiling water as the instructions suggest,

i bloom the granules with a teaspoon of cold water before adding a half-shot of boiling water. 30 seconds later fill the rest of the cup.
Voila, tastes as good as it was first extracted at the factory and not burned like it would be without bloom.

>>13569802
>bring pot of water to rolling boil, on high heat
>add grounds and kill heat
>let grounds settle at the bottom
>ladle out coffee
Simple.

>>13569568
It's not pomp and circumstance so much as it is finding something you enjoy drinking and finding out how to refine it down to just the parts you enjoy while avoiding the bits that are less enjoyable. Are you saying that you don't try and get better at dishes you like to cook, or don't try and find new ways to use ingredients you like?

>>13569568
>bean water
Redditor aggot

Just finishing the Scandinavian edition Nespresso pods. The almond cake was my favourite. About to fire up my laptop and choose my next pods. Any NespresBros got any recommendations?

Why arent you making Vietnamese egg coffee on the regular, /ctg/?

Trying to take a break from coffee for like a week to reset my tolerance a bit but I fucking can't. I'm about to go brew another cup. Even though I know I will enjoy the cups way more if I take a break now, it's always the same. After a break the first few days drinking again is awesome, then I start to slowly feel nothing from the cups and have to up the dosage etc. Eventually I don't even really derive much pleasure from it anymore but have to keep drinking to fend off the cravings.

>>13570224
>Are you saying that you don't try and get better at dishes you like to cook, or don't try and find new ways to use ingredients you like?
My observation is that most people are lazy fucks so they don't.

>>13570211
>>add grounds and kill heat
are you sure? I thought it should remain boiling for x minutes
do you have a more specific instruction on how long to keep the pot on heat and so on?

>>13569568
Excellence is doing ordinary things extraordinarily good. I'm just better than you at pouring water. You should feel bad and want to improve. Nothing says you can't pour a few carafes full of water and learn.

My after lunch time coffee literally fills me with joy, arround 3/4 milk 1/4 coffee, with a lil bit more coffee than that, and enough sugar so it'll taste sweet. I litera live for this shit. I highly recommend it bros.

>>13570492
Had some from Cafe Giang. Nicest thing I ever tasted, but their recipe is secret and I never spent time experimenting. Got a good recipe?

>>13564427
>drinking?
Zavida Hazelnut Vanilla Whole Bean
>where from
Central/South America (I bought it at Costco cause I'm a broke college student just slowly starting to get into whole bean)
>getting anymore
It's a decently sized bag but I'm slowly getting over the 'coffee' taste that so I'm able to taste the vanilla more now. Will probably get more

Does anyone have any tips for getting over the 'coffee' taste that obscures all the other notes or is that just a thing I'll get past with more varied experience?

>>13571764
>flavoured beans
Get better coffee.

>>13571874
>Get better coffee.
Any recommendations? Again, I'm a broke college student and I'm using these beans black (sometimes a little milk) as a way to get off cream+sugar.

>>13570561
>not drinking coffee for the flavor

>>13572039
I do, but still. The cup altogether becomes better after a break. It's like if you drank coke every day vs once a month, you know? If you get used to it it doesn't taste as good.

>>13572346
So get different coffees to change things up a bit. You could also drink decaf as a "break" instead of stopping coffee altogether

>>13572039
AAAAAAAAAAH IF I DRINK COFFEE AFTER NOON I CAN'T SLEEP, BUT IT'S THE PERFECT WAY TO END A MEAL AAAAAAAHHH

>>13570072
Get a small hand-operated one like in >>13569400
Or get a french plunger or stovetop.
No one has to get the $$$ cafe-style version

>>13571716
If you dont already have a phin, get one. You need Thung Nguyen/cafe du monde coffee, sweet condensed milk, and 2 egg yolks.
For the condensed milk mixture you need 2 tablespoons and the egg yolks. Use either a whisk or a hand mixer. Beat them together til it reaches trace, where the mixture can draw lines over itself, or beat more til it becomes more like meringue. Experiment with how you like it. If you want more or less go with 1 tbsp to 1 yolk.

>>13572484
Drink a small shot?

>>13572484
drink more coffee

>>13572484
F

Got my first ever local and freshly roasted coffee beans last week. First coffee I've brewed that's not bitter and I can happily drink black. It does actually taste fruity like it says which I'm not a huge fan of, gonna look for some different tasting notes on the next ones I buy. Thanks for reading.

>>13571117
Boil it as hard and at as high of a temperature as you can, and then turn the heat off the second you add the coffee grounds, but keep the pot on the stove. You can cover if you like but I don't bother. It doesn't matter since "cowboy coffee" is meant to be as simple as hot water + coffee grounds anyways.

>>13569802
nearly impossible to mess up, makes pretty good coffee

Why are all the cold brew recipes I see for making concentrate? They then say to dilute it with water at the time of drinking. Why should I do this instead of making a standard 15:1 ratio and brew immersion for 12 hours?

Picked up some ammo for when that tc4 board gets here. Roasting saga continues. Working on a new top for the popper since mine has started to melt.

>>13577384
I tried roasting with a whirly pop, I just use it for popcorn now. Then I used a heat gun and a mesh setup, but it killed itself pretty fast. It was the most effective though. I just roast coffee in the oven now. What have you tried? What do you have the most success with? How consistently can you roast?

>>13577699
https://www.sweetmarias.com/nostalgia-electric-popcorn-popper.html

85gram batches, don't stop shaking until the bean mass is fluidized.

I've got everything to wire it up to artisan but the arduino hat, which is otw soon.

https://www.tindie.com/products/artisanaltech/tc4-coffee-roaster-shield-tc4-plus/

>>13577788
Pretty neat, tell me how it goes. The next thing I build is going to be set up to last a while. I don't think I'm going to end up switching less than 3kw so I'll probably just DIY it. Once I finish it I'll be sure to post here.

Even the bearings and stuff in the hot air poppers can't deal with duty cycle you need for coffee, and I want to be able to roast batches back to back. I figured it'd be cheaper just to start from scratch, but post updates here, if you end up liking your setup I might give it a shot.

>>13577843
Well I plan on doing exactly what you're talking about, but with artisan integration. I'm going to run the popper into the ground, get a few roast profiles saved, then take the arduino+tc4 and build something nice. Popcorn popper is just an intermediary step, but honestly should last pretty long with the pid controlling fan and heater independently instead of both full bore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuUCXhGAC4

>>13564427
Is aeropress actually worth it, bros?

>>13578399
>worth it
They're like $20. Are you poor or something? I don't like it as much as a V60 or even a French press but it's not like it's a huge loss if you buy one and then don't like it.

>>13578568
I'm not poor, just lazy and I hear all sorts of conflicting here, like a french press just makes tea-coffee and aeropress sucks, etc. Obviously, I base all my opinions on the elite members of a macaroni-based Hungarian hoverboard rather than formulating my own.

how to make iced coffee?

>>13578580
Well in that case Aeropress is a dumb meme and just use a pourover since they make the best tasting coffee and have the easiest cleanup. What style of pourover you pick is up to you because any differences between them are imperceptible unless you are extremely high power level and even then technique has a much larger impact on flavor than the physical shape of the pourover mug.

>>13578399
They don't even make an 8 oz cup of coffee. I guess you could make strong coffee and cut it with water, but that doesn't sit right with me

>>13578580
>a french press just makes tea-coffee
lol who the fuck said that?

That's not at all true unless you use way too little coffee and/or an especially tea-like bean. Even then it's not true because the metal filter of a french press means it doesn't filter the brew like a paper filter and lets through a lot of super fine particles which give french press a lot of body and even siltiness. (Unless you do the patrician James Hoffman method.)

The drawbacks of the french press are cleaning it, and less flavor clarity/definition than a pour over.

Anyway the aeropress doesn't suck exactly, it just generally doesn't make coffee as good as a v60. It's not as sweet and well-defined.
There's also far too many different recipes for it, so it's hard to decide on what the fuck you should be doing with it.
It also only makes a small amount of coffee at a time. (About 200ml.)

But it's fast (1 min brew time) and easier to clean than a french press.

Get a plastic Hario v60 size 02. It makes great coffee. It's simple. It's cheap. It's easy to clean. Get a timemore slim hand grinder on aliexpress for $80 to go with it and maybe an electric gooseneck kettle, and you're set. That's a super solid setup that will serve you very well, basically forever.

GRINDER RANT:

DO NOT get anything cheaper than a Timemore Slim. Cheaper grinders like a hario, porlex, javapresse, etc. are absolute dogshit and a COMPLETE waste of money.

If you still decide to buy one now that you know better, you deserve the frustrating shitfest of disappointment that'll ensue.

And you probably shouldn't get anything more expensive than a timemore slim, unless you're willing to shell out at least $120 or so on a Xeoleo ghost tooth burr grinder, or $200+ for a Kinu hand grinder.

>>13578399
They're cheap and they make a good product but also consider v60 which is also cheap but is more scalable.

>>13578587
Make your filter coffee a little stronger than you would ordinarily, then add ice.

Alternatively, make your filter twice as strong as usual, stir in the water you didn't use in the form of ice until melted - then serve over big blocks of ice that don't melt fast.

>>13578718
>>13578580
Forgot to add you should get a scale. This one's really good:
https://www.amazon.com/Jennings-CJ-4000-Compact-Digital-Adapter/dp/B004C3CAB8
And as for a kettle, I've got a fancy pants Stagg EKG cuz I got it on sale, and while it's amazing, it's probably overkill. You don't really need temperature control, temperature hold, or a timer.

I've only got a stagg, so I can't personally recommend anything else, but this looks good:
https://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-Electric-Featuring-Gooseneck-BV3825B/dp/B005YR0GDA?th=1

Bonavita is a known entity in the coffee world, especially for their kettles, so it should be good.

So
>v60
>Timemore Slim
>Kettle
>Scale

And you're set for life.

for me, it's cafe bustelo with a tsp of mct oil and a packet of truvia(Splenda + erythritol)

>>13578950
forgot pic

>>13578958
and I also use an espresso pot to make the coffee because it's based and electric coffee machines are sóy-tier

>>13578950
>truvia
That shit's gross. Swerve is hugely better than truvia (or anything containing stevia, really.) Lakanto is a bit better than swerve.

>>13578950
>>13578958
>>13578973
Holy freakin' cringe!

>>13567333
Temple coffee
It's a local CA roaster that consistently does top scoring coffees.
You probably can't go wrong with other roasters, but they make what I like.
All of the ones I know of that compete nationally seem to ship CONUS too, so that might be a way to look into it yourself.

>>13578973
Do you cut it with water, or drink it stronk as fuck?

>>13569568
I like quality things, and when you like quality things you don't want to immediately 'waste' them by processing them in an inferior way
>Imagine chucking an 98 point espresso coffee into a keurig.
You can do that if you want, it's just a waste of money.

All this 'pomp' is really just respect for the ingredients, plus it makes cheaper stuff taste better.

>>13569802
It's coffee, but made like a tea, then ladled like an animal.

>>13570561
Switch off with a tea, it helps because fits the same void.

>>13578996
>>13579040

>>13579058
I just drink it as is. are you supposed to add water?

>>13579745
S-sorry anon. I didn't mean to offend. I just wanted to talk about zero-carb sweeteners.
>>13579750
No. I mean, I don't, but I like strong-ass coffee. Some people do.

>>13579812
lol I'm just kidding. btw I realized that I said that the truvia was Splenda + erythritol, but I meant to say stevia and not Splenda. anyway, I heard that alcohol sugars can cause digestive issues. I don't ever experience that, but maybe it's because I only have a packet with my coffee per day. possibly too much though can cause that effect. do you ever experience it?

Friendly reminder for coffee drinkers to take care of their teeth. An oral b 8000 will change your life for years to come and you can replace the battery fairly easily.

>>13579864
Nope. I almost always drink my coffee black nowadays, but when I do use swerve or lakanto I never have gut issues. My dad drinks his coffee with a spoonful of swerve or lakanto and he doesn't have any problems.

I've heard that if you eat too much of some sugar alcohols in one go, it can (temporarily) give you diarrhea. I think it was whatever kind they use in Haribo sugar free gummie bears. But I don't remember if erythritol can cause that. I don't think it's something you need to worry about though.

Stevia is nasty to me. It's bitter, and the sweetness is unnatural. It's not like fructose or sucrose. It has a lingering, cloying aftertaste, and imo it overpowers everything you put it in.

Swerve tastes much more natural, almost exactly like sugar. And straight Lakanto tastes very nearly identical to sugar, and when it's mixed into something, it's perfect.

I made a bunch of pot de creme using swerve and they were delicious, and never gave me (or anyone else) any trouble gut-wise.

I just put a little bit of cream or milk to cut the acidity. I drink it black a lot of the time too. Simple.

>>13578906
>0.5g increment scale
Do you also time your brew using a sundial, you shameless Luddite?

Bump

>>13579892
what do you mean

>>13581143
Coffee is quite acidic so it can weaken your tooth enamel and increase the likelihood of developing cavities. It is therefore imperative for coffee drinkers to maintain good dental hygiene.

>>13581154
Also a good idea regardless. I recommend the 8000 since it has the same motor and mode as the 9600 and genius x. Don't skimp on your oral health. My buddy is about to drop 15k in mexico for dental work.

>>13570072
Just get a aeropress. Also get a grinder, a good grinder is the most important part of the process.

>>13578587
You can make cold brew in a French press.
Brew it as usual, then put the press in the fridge. Just don't push the press down when you place it in.

>>13579970
ive gotten used to the stevia taste and bc i dont use it often it didnt really bother me. but if what you're saying about what you use is true then i'm going to have to give this swerve stuff a try. since there's no use in being complacent with a shittier tasting sweeter if I don't have to be.
I also read that swerve is more ideal for baking since it's said to crystalize just as sugar does, which is definitely a nice bonus ( ๑ ڡ ๑ )

>>13565739
No, French press isn't as strong as moka. I like both though, I'll have the press in the morning and the moka in the afternoon on ice with a splash of coconut milk

>>13564427
>What are you drinking
Cold brew since my college doesn't allow hotplates and there are no stoves. My parents got me this little kit for Christmas that has a drinking lid, a 24 oz Mason jar, and an infuser basket that makes it super easy to clean. The stuff is so strong too so I can easily water it down to 48 oz.
>Where is it from
Some st*rbucks holiday blend that I ground up and vacuum sealed to take with me. Not my first choice but I was free
>Getting anymore
Possibly either one of the 2 local coffee shops or at Dunkin, whichever is cheaper. I know it's poorfag stuff but >tfw college in rural area

got $500 to spend on an espresso machine, what would you guys suggest?

>>13582705
If you've got a grinder, get a cafelat robot + pressure gauge. If you don't have a grinder get a flair+pressure gauge and a kinu m47 variant.

>>13582726
i think i'd prefer something with a frother as I enjoy lattes but thanks for the recommendations

>>13582909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IBfxQ4d8g

>>13580562
It's sufficient for pourovers. The main thing I care about is that it's fast and accurate. I'd never use it for espresso though. I've considered getting a hario scale but at this point I just don't see the need.
>>13582909
So get a separate milk frother. What grinder do you have? Cuz if you don't have a good espresso grinder, you're fucked no matter what you do.

>>13583121
Yeah I've heard that- I have an oxo burr grinder which I'm starting to think isn't going to cut it

>>13583158
100% will not. Flair + kinu + that breville frother.

>>13583158
>an oxo burr grinder
Ah... Yeah, that's not remotely adequate for espresso.

You're looking at a $200 Kinu M47 Phoenix on the low end for a grinder. But with that, you'll never need another grinder for anything unless you want something electric instead of manual.

So at bare minimum $200 of your budget is going to a Phoenix.

>>13583175
This anon is correct.

>>13583175
>>13583198
I appreciate the info. And I think I don’t even have to ask but a hario skerton ain’t gonna cut it either right

>>13583272
>a hario skerton
>for espresso
>for anything

>start drinking almost exclusively single-variety ,black coffee because fortunately a coffee chain fairly close to me sells it freshly-cut
>every other type of coffee from cafes and such tastes like absolute shit now,and I hate adding sweeteners

what do?I've heard that dark brown sugar makes it tolerable without it being sickly sweet

>>13583282
I don't get it, from the shit I read online either people swear by them or fucking hate them. It's like the dark souls 2 of grinders

>>13583299
The people that like them only like them because it's LITERALLY THE ONLY GRINDER THEY'VE EVER OWNED. They don't have any idea what they're talking about. They just don't.

It's like that episode of Family Guy where Quagmire was all excited about the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue because he didn't know about internet porn.

Those grinders and their ilk are absolutely terrible, in every possible respect. Build quality, burr quality, grind quality, grind time — everything.

EVERYTHING.

They're a waste of money. You're literally better off with nothing than you are with a hario/porlex/javapresse/etc. because they'll fool you into thinking you have a coffee grinder when you ACTUALLY DON'T. They're more like a coffee toy or a prop.

The problem is that plebbit tells every coffee newfag to waste their money on a hario grinder and an aeropress for $70-$90, when what they should be getting is an $80 timemore slim grinder and $8 v60.

The cheapest worthwhile grinder for pourover is $80, and the cheapest worthwhile grinder for espresso (it's also great for pourover) is the $200 Kinu M47 Phoenix.

My gf drinks chock full of nuts but I usually abstain from caffeine.
Though if I'm at a breakfast spot with a big group I'll drink about 4 or 5 cups of black coffee.
It's more about showing off at that point though.

>>13583400
>It's more about showing off at that point though.
I don't understand. What are you showing off?

>>13583411
his inability to handle caffeine once he starts quivering

>>13583411
What, you don't impress your peers with excessive consumption? Normally I have 4 cups of coffee and 5 bloody Mary drinks so everyone knows what's what

>>13583411
>What are you showing off?
That I don't need no stinking cream
And I don't need no stinking sugar

>>13583422
>>13583426
>>13583428
I see

Had a great series of emails with the guy who runs http://greencoffee.coop/.. If any of you(americans) are remotely interested in home roasting, I'd highly recommend supporting that guy, he's doing a thankless job. I uploaded this a few threads ago, but no reason I can't do it again. Here's Rao's book on roasting. Should be required reading desu.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/9o13t5i95f1ipud/The_Coffee_Roaster%u2019s_Companion_-_Scott_Rao_%28Scott_Rao%2C_2014%29.epub/file

>>13583446
Error 400, you got a pastebin?

>>13583460
Weird, lets try zippyshare.

https://www48.zippyshare.com/v/ai4a75Kj/file.html

>>13583379
I got this for my first grinder. It's slightly inconsistent, I use it for my aeropress too...
I noticed it almost immediately too. The grind is passable at best.
I got the aeropress as a gift and just bought the grinder.
Is it sad an pathetic that I got it without the help of reddit?
I'll probably just use it as a travel grinder and invest in another in a while.

>>13583499
>Is it sad an pathetic that I got it without the help of reddit?
Not really. The people writing amazon reviews don't know any better either. It's basically an internet-wide case of the blind leading the blind.

>>13583482
thanks anon

>>13583482
Hey I'm a complete fuckup. Don't try to be helpful while you're stoned off your ass. Thats the wrong copy, like 75% of it is blank. I've got another copy downloading right now, but redacted is slow as hell for some reason. I'll drop a link asap.

>>13583542
>Thats the wrong copy, like 75% of it is blank.
huh, so it is.

>>13583567
I'm 99% sure I've got another copy saved but my harddrive is on the fritz. Keeps disappearing. Lemme reboot and see if I can snag it.

>>13583446
>>13583460
>>13583482
>>13583535
>>13583542
>>13583567
>>13583577

https://www67.zippyshare.com/v/GND2XSd1/file.html

Fixed. Sorry for the fuckup brews.

>>13583640

Bump

new to coffee brewing. got a rinky dink single-serve french press and i seem to have gotten it down pretty good, but it still comes out kinda bitter. how to improve?

ive never had coffee and you cant make me
im 27

>>13584964
The obvious answer is to run your grinder a little coarser. If you've already dialled in and going any coarser results in too sour, you can try the following:

- Try varying the temperature of your water - start waiting in 15 second increments after the water has boiled before pouring
- Try a different variety of bean
- If your grinder is producing inconsistent fines and boulders in among the good grounds, and you can't or don't wish to upgrade, you can sift the boulders and if you're turbo-autistic, run the grounds over paper towel to soak up some of the fines

Bump

>>13578612
Wut? I make a 250ml cup of coffee in mine every day

>>13584964
Try using this technique for French Press:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

This anon's >>13585114 advice is good. Here's a video explaining how to sift grounds like he's talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7d-5KWHCU

>>13571764
ADD some salt to ur coffee grounds to take out the bitterness

>was about to jump on the kinu phoenix since anons here keep talking about it
>found a lido e-t in pretty good condition for $130 somewhat local
I know about the plastic parts and how unnecessarily large it is, but I don't think the convenience and appearance factors are worth the extra $80 + tax since I'll only ever be brewing at home for myself.

>>13587119
Two words:
>Burr alignment
Do some research on lidos and aligning the burrs. You won't want one any more.

Also, apparently the adjustment mechanism can completely sieze up on you. Also the ergonomics are pretty shit.

I STRONGLY recommend the Kinu.

>>13587183
Will look into the burr alignment right now. I already figured the ergonomics would be shit given how large it is and the handle being at the very top anyway.

>>13587284
still want a lido?
The Kinus come perfectly aligned from the factory, and you can't put them out of alignement unless you literally hit them with a hammer. Actually even with a hammer you kind of have to work at it to fuck up the alignment.

>>13587519
Yeah, I was looking at it and alignment seemed like the process is a bit of a pain given it's supposedly a $200 grinder. Not extremely hard, but very inconvenient. I'll ask the current owner a bit more about it.
Thanks for the advice though. I'll see what I go through with once I get there to check it out.

>>13587183
My lido 2 somehow completely stripped its shaft out of the top burr. The original italmill burrs. When they replaced it, I got back etzinger burrs. Fuckem.

>>13587802
>My lido 2 somehow completely stripped its shaft out of the top burr.
what in the fuck

>>13587822

Thats what I get for supporting an american company. Fuckers tried to give me the reacharound over email saying it wasn't their fault. I'm not sure how the fuck I could have done it. Not like I seized it up and attached it to a power drill or something.

>>13587891
>Fuckers tried to give me the reacharound
>the reacharound
>reacharound

ITT: Low Energy Neets

>>13587891
seriously though that's fucked up

>>13588007
Got a new unit back, sold it for a $10 loss on reddot. Not a bad price to pay for a ~5 month demo. I'm a kinuboy now, and if I decide to go ghosttooth for filter, you know I'm getting that xeoleo over the apex.

>>13588101
>If I decide to go ghosttooth for filter, you know I'm getting that xeoleo over the apex.
Yeah I took a peek at the homebarista threads on the apex and it's a fucking shitshow.

>browsing coffee beans in supermarket to see what kind of shit they've got
>they all have numbers on them denoting how dark they're roasted
>upon closer inspection it actually says "strength"
>mfw people actually think darker roasts means stronger coffee
>mfw they think darker roasts means more caffeine

Vast majority of people are drinking bitter as fuck coffee because they're stupid and think it wakes them up more.

>>13589829
Yep. And then Charbucks goes and makes it worse.

>>13589829
The strength is cause most people tend to put a fair amount of sugar and creamer in their coffee. If you use a lighter roast it gets drowned out. I've read conflicting sources on light roast or dark roast having more caffeine, though the dark roast was done in a scientific sense than regular brewing. What people need to do is take the robusta pill if they want strength.

>>13590939
I feel like people probably only use so much sugar or milk because of the bitterness though, at least that's the only reason I ever used it. Or if they actually don't even like any coffee but just want the caffeine.

>>13590721
Starbucks tastes like my grandma's ashes. Weird notes of cigarette ash. Imagine creating a worldwide chain whose whole business model is based on covering up the taste of their (supposedly) core product with increasingly wacky flavour combinations

Beans have touched down. Need to locate a vacuum sealer before I bust into them

>>13564427
>what are you drinking
folgers
>where is it from
the bunn machine in the break room at work
>getting anymore
probably

https://youtu.be/PA7c15gIjGI

>>13593874
>that coffee's been sitting on his counter for weeks
>light roasts have less flavor and aroma
>thousands of people are going to be introduced to javapresse grinders
>literally everything about this video

Red pill me on making cappuccino. Can I prepare the milk by frothing in my french press, or should I really buy a steamer for it to be any good? If I need a steamer, is there any advantage to buying a stovetop steamer or should I get an electric one for half the price and effort? Do people buy stovetop steamers just because they look nice?

I'm planning on combining it with moka pot coffee, I don't have an espresso machine.

>>13593921
nobody watches jack seriously

Hello coffee general, tea enthusiast looking to branch into the other half of the hot drink world.

I'm trying to get a simple espresso setup and was wondering if I got my homework done correct from more experienced Anons.

>A machine is ideal due to pressure when brewing.
>Don't have enough space in the kitchen for a machine so was looking at manual means (plus don't also want to drop a ton of money for a drink I'll have only a few times a week)
>French press is NOT a good choice for espresso because sediment tends to get in the drink?

Would an Aeropress, a handheld frother, a manual grinder with a CERAMIC burr, and my electric kettle be all that I need for cappuccinos, lattes, and now and then americano?

Thanks for any and all help, for exchange I work with drinking water for my trade so I can offer some pointers on water quality or tea recommendations if anyone is interested.

Currently hooked on pic related. I do 3 scoops of this mixed with 2 scoops of Brazilian Breakfast for my 22oz travel mug. It comes out so rich and dark, I love it. People give me shit for drinking coffee that is "too dark" but anything else to me tastes like water.

I attribute my taste for extremely dark coffee to my working in an office for 2 years. It was IT-related so it was just a bunch of sweaty autistic and Asians doing shirty grunt work, but fuck did these guys brew their coffee dark. We are talking like 1.5 cups of ground coffee for a standard 12 cup pot. This shit would make your eyes glaze over and make you sweat a little. I've done a lot of drugs and theres nothing like that dopamine dump for a huge caffeine dose like that.

>>13593960
The cappuccino is an absolutely gutter tier drink so you can get away with gutter tier equipment like a French press for frothing because you only need macrofoam which serves no purpose at all aside from making the drinker feel "continental".

For slightly better but still pleb tier drinks like the cortado, the piccolo, or the flat white you will need better equipment (a steamer of some kind) to produce microfoam which improves mouth feel.

The irony in coffee drinking and making is that the patrician tier drink, the long black, requires less equipment. You only need the espresso machine itself.

>>13594343
Get a decent steel burr grinder and don't bother with the aeropress if you're thinking about it only due to the "pressure" you can generate using it.
If you want to generate any decent amount of pressure you'll build retarded contraptions for the sole purpose of weighing down the plunger that defeats the whole ease-of-use factor.

>>13594343
>Would an Aeropress, a handheld frother, a manual grinder with a CERAMIC burr, and my electric kettle be all that I need for cappuccinos, lattes, and now and then americano?
>Thanks for any and all help, for exchange I work with drinking water for my trade so I can offer some pointers on water quality or tea recommendations if anyone is interested.

Sounds like a huge pain in the ass. Ceramic burrs if you need them to last until your grandchildren are dead. That shit setup cost me 375 bucks. Do whatever though. It pulls good shots after buying real filters, the grinder is perfect even though it isn't a poncy italian piece of shit. Whatever, you fucking people are all talk and no knowledge.

>>13594685
That's the grind you get off a 'shitty' stainless burr.

>>13573185
>cafe du monde coffee
Only if that's your only option, that's the compromise that viet-americans used when they immigrated to the USA.

>>13594685
>>13594689
That looks like the consistency I always seen it at, but I grew up around what is probably the most mainstream of methods.
It is a pain, but the bottleneck on this is literally that if I got a machine or countertop machine I would have to keep unplugging it and putting it in the cabinet, which is an even bigger pain considering it would just be 1 or 2 cups at most I would be making in a day. Coffee is a drink to a lot of crowds all around the world, so I'm doing my best to develop discernment to what my "good enough" is and walk by these poncy Italians you speak of.

>Whatever, you fucking people are all talk and no knowledge.
I hope your day gets better, Anonymous.

>>13594505
Right, I'm playing around with what space on the countertop I have to see if I can make something work. The aeropress really seems like it's meant to shine where portability is the concern. I think I'm going to do more homework to convince myself to get a machine and sit around to try and find a used one off Craigslist or Ebay. I'm not too far from the city, so one shouldn't take too long to pop up.

>>13594343
Unless I'm missing something, I think you're confusing espresso for regular black coffee. French presses and Aeropresses don't really make espresso, they're basically both filter coffee. For manual espresso at home you might want to try something like the Robot which gets good reviews. Or for pseudo-espresso a moka pot which makes something that's sort of like espresso but not quite due to the lower pressures involved. Or maybe just try filter coffee with a V60 because it's a lot easier to make at home and is still great.

>>13594918
I know you're trying to simplify things for the newfag but the misinformation in this post is more damaging than helpful.

French press and Aeropress aren't basically filter coffee. They are a completely different class of brewing method. Filter coffee relies on percolation; French/Aeropress rely on immersion. The final brew characteristics are not at all comparable.

Moka pot is not a pseudo-espresso. The pressure in a Moka pot barely rises above atmospheric pressure (1.5 bar at most). A proper espresso requires 9 bar. In fact, I'd argue that if you want to put any two methods of the ones listed in your post (French/Aeropress, filter, Moka and espresso) into the same category, it would be filter and Moka because they are both low pressure percolation extractions.

>>13594951
Yeah you're right obviously. I actually forgot about the differences between immersion/percolation so thanks for reminding me of that

Soon...

>>>13594343
No. Not at all. It’s literally impossible for what you’re describing to make espresso. If you want to know what we recommend for espresso you need to read this entire comment chain: >>13582705

tl;dr: Kinu M47 Phoenix for the grinder and a flair or cafelat robot with pressure gauge for the espresso machine. If you want milk drinks, add a stand-alone steam wand to froth milk.

If you’re just getting into coffee, though, I don’t think espresso is the way to go honestly. It’s much higher learning curve than a pour over, and a much more... polarizing flavor.

A v60 and timemore slim grinder will serve you quite nicely if you just want a good coffee experience, and not specifically espresso.

>>13569568
>t. KHV who can't into coffee culture

>>13564427
Today I made myself an iced coffee with hazelnut creamer and vanilla protein powder

>>13594437
>these guys brew their coffee dark. We are talking like 1.5 cups of ground coffee for a standard 12 cup pot.
Statements like this make it sound like you're conflating roast level (dark coffee) with brew strength (strong coffee). They're two different things. Dark roasts are beans that have been "cooked" more than light or medium roasts. This changes the flavor profile, but not the strength of the drink.

Brew strength is determined by your coffee/water ratio: 50g coffee per liter of water will be weaker than 75g coffee per liter, regardless of how light or dark the roast is.

Also, lighter roasts tend to have slightly higher caffeine content than really dark roasts.

It sounds like you enjoy coffee that is both dark and strong, which is fine.

The best way to predictably hit your desired brew strength is using a digital scale to weigh your water and your coffee beans in grams, since it's more accurate and repeatable than volumetric measurements. (Also 1 gram of water equals 1 mililiter of water. So 1kg water = 1 liter water, which makes brew strength recipes really fucking easy.)

That makes it easy to find out what your favorite brew ratio is (say 1:15 coffee:water) and really easy to brew coffee at that strength. So if you want a liter of coffee at a 1:15 ratio, you divide 1000 by 15 which gives you the amount of coffee to use. (~67g.) Or if you only want half a liter, you divide 500 by 15. This way your coffee will always be the same strength no matter how much you brew at a time, and no matter which coffee you use — since different grind settings, beans, and roasts can all have different weights at the same volume. So one "scoop" can be anywhere from say 15 to 20 grams, which will lead to unpredictable coffee strength.

Also, no matter what, you'll get more flavor by buying fresh roasted coffee, and then grinding your coffee just before brewing.

Anyway I'm glad you like your coffee anon. Don't let people give you shit for drinking what you like.

been drinking new england coffee, they're easily my favorite of the supermarket coffee blends. made a mistake by getting the hazelnut creme, chocolate was a lot better. might try blueberry cobbler next time, has anyone tried it before? do I stick with chocolate?

Had the pink velvet macchiato from Dunkin, it was yummy and I got it with a heart shaped donut.

>>13598353
flavored coffee is shit only retards and moms buy

>>13598353
>has anyone tried it before?
Are you actually retarded

Bomp

>>13598361
I'll bite, what is a pink latte macchiato?

>>13599508
Not him but this gave me an idea. Red velvet is a chocolate cream cheese cake, right? What if you top an espresso with the cream cheese foam they use in Chinese cheese tea? Sounds strange but there is precedent for the coffee and cheese combo. It's big in Scandinavia.

Has this been done?

>>13600189
I just googled pink velvet latte. That's exactly what this is. I'll have to try it.

>>13564427
Drinking happy mug Honduran decaf capucas that I pan roasted yesterday.

First batch of coffee I’ve roasted and I don’t know what I’m doing but it’s not bad. Sort of boring and uninteresting coffee for my tastes, but it’s a pleasant classic cup flavor, and surprisingly sweet.

It looks like I’ll need something that can roast half a pound or more at a time. But I think I’m too retarded for the DIY roaster route.

>>13600236
Dude. Peruvian don rigoberto. In a $20 popcorn popper. Buy it from sweet Maria's now and quit selling yourself short. 12:30 until I heard 2 beans hit second crack, then immediately cooled. With it without wiring it up to a roaster scope. You've got this. Lemme know if I need to reupload Rao's book.

>>13596830
Nice post

Weeb coffee ? Japs have coffee skills?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIbbJV-grHg

>>13602158
It's just coffee. And literally anyone can have coffee skills if they put a little effort into it.

>>13600815
>Lemme know if I need to reupload Rao's book.
Nah I downloaded it — thanks again for that. Alright, looks like I’ll be getting a popper from sweet Maria’s then.

What's the best coffee scale I can get that won't be all over the place if I pick something up then place it back down. Preferably less then 100 burgers.

>>13602759
Just go to the weed store and get a weed scale

>>13602158
>Japs have coffee skills?
Yeah. Hario, Kalita (I think), and Fuji Royal are all Japanese. So is the Kasuya v60 method (which I think is retarded but that’s neither here nor there.)

There’s even jap-invented coffee brewing methods: Japanese style iced coffee (brewing concentrated hot coffee directly onto ice), and Kyoto style cold brew (ultra slow, drop-by-drop percolation brew with ice cold water.)

Japs get just as autistic about coffee as they do everything else.

>>13602759
Hario coffee scale if you need 0.1g resolution or do espresso, or a Jennings cj4000 if you’re fine with 0.5g resolution or wanna weigh stuff up to 4kg. Or get an Acaia if you wanna show everyone you’re better than them. (Or if you just want a stupidly good scale.)

Any of those will work. I’ve got the Jennings and it’s breddy gud XDD. Sometimes I feel like I want the Hario scale’s resolution, but not enough to buy one.

>>13601214
Thanks anon. I appreciate your appreciation

>>13602195
I guess....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNe5kg9aqm0

Anyone used a Breville or Sage Precision Brewer?

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>>13605143
bloom

>>13600189
That would work actually. It needs the right coffee to pair with it though.

Hi everyone.
I'm one of those babies that can't stand bitter.
However, I recently heard that you can reduce the bitterness in coffee a lot by using higher quality ingredients. How much is that really a thing? If I get the right cuppa at a fancy coffehouse, will it be bitter still?

for reference, I can force myself to drink weak lagers or weak coffee, but it's not pleasant anywhere.

>>13605552
I don't think variety or quality will reduce bitterness much. Try some cold brew; I find it's less bitter than traditional, and of course drinking it cold mutes the taste a bit. Also don't be afraid to add milk or cream, or get espresso/milk drinks like lattes.

But in the end, coffee is an acquired taste that's definitely bitter. If you don't like it, well, try tea or caffeine pills.

guys i drink like 6 shots of espresso everyday but from outside (cafe nero, costa etc) and i spent around 12 euro per day. Money is not a problem as coffee is the only thing i spent shit but im thinking i should invest in something so i can drink some espresso also and the costs will be reduced. What should i get? I drink mostly freddo espressos.

>>13605858
Flair + kinu m47p.

>>13606200
Stop shilling the stupid meme lever you fucking faggot

>>13606964
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

>>13606981
Huh?

>>13607039
I don't understand your issue with it. At $200 there's just not a better ROI. Comes with a sick case too. Present your arguments faggot. Have you used one?

>>13607133
Not him, but I tested one a college friend bought and it pulled perfectly good tasting shots. The only problem is if you want to make a large number of drinks at the same time or if you drink milk drinks more often than just the espresso. It's a tiny bit more effort than just using an espresso machine.

>>13607209
$20 for an extra portafilter and a bellman steamer will do way better than a $100 upcharge on a worse espresso machine. You've got variable, repeatable pressure and preinfusion without having to pidmod and tune something like a gaggia.

>>13607242
There's no doubt in my mind that the Flair + accessories will always net a better RoI and espresso with experience. What I'm trying to say is that in the end you are paying for the convenience factor.
Anon said money is not a problem, so he could actually invest a bit more in a decent espresso machine or a more convenient lever machine if they wanted.

>>13607277
Admittedly I don't know what the used market for old levers is over in europe so he may very well be able to pick up an old la pavoni, give it a citric acid flush, repair all the seals, rewire the boiler element etc etc and have fantastic espresso. Or just spend his money on beans.

Sweet Marias Liquid amber espresso blend. I roasted it darker than I usually do as per their suggestion and its pretty fucking good. Caramel, very smooth creamy finish. Little hits of fruit at times. 200 degrees with a 47 second pull at 9-6 bar. I'll go slightly coarser and see how it plays, probably run it through the refractometer for lulz.

>>13607277
>>13607451
Picked up a vac sealer btw. $30 on craigslist.

Easiest comparison I can make is to cigar guys. 15 years ago everyone wanted the nicest custom humidor, 3/4in spanish cedar, fit and finish through the roof. Now we buy tupperware and igloo coolers on sale and fill them with kitty litter to stabilize the humidity.

>>13607737
do we? i'm still using a cedar humidor with those crystals for humidity

Well?

>>13607756
Most people on botl do. I've got a 50ct for my active smoking stash and an overflow cooler for boxes/long term aging. Noone recommends cheap leaky quality importers humidors anymore,you can pick up ziplock weathershield and a tray, have a perfect seal, and spend the rest of your cash on sticks.

>>13607787
is a perfect seal the best thing for ageing though? i would have thought some oxygen exchange would be necessary as long as the humidity can be kept constant. because aging is just oxidizing so once all your oxygen is used up in the reaction the aging would slow drastically?

it's the same reason why corks are preferable to screw caps for long term aging of wine, the cork lets some air in over time

>>13607809
With any humidor, rotating your sticks periodically is best. You want as close to a perfect seal as you can get. Even in a complete vaccuum the tobacco is going to slowly expel oils and mingle together. Most people do use 9volt oust fans in the bottom of their large coolers though.

>>13604525
No but I just ordered one so if this is still up I'll let you know

>>13570492
I do, every weekend. Shit's based.

Who here does Turkish coffee?

>>13605858
Either >>13606200 or a cafelat robot barista plus a kinu. I think the robot’s a better choice for a manual machine.

Or if as you say money is really not a problem, then get a Breville double boiler espresso machine and either a Kinu m47 or niche zero grinder.

Or if money is REALLY no object, get a Decent Espresso machine, and a kafatec monolith (I’d get a flat), or EG1 grinder. Mahlkonigs are basically memes unless you own a cafe.

>>13606964
It’s either a flair or a robot if you want an actually good entry level espresso set up. Entry level single boiler electrics are all frustratingly sucky.

>>13564523
Had a la pavoni for a month. Major mistake and ended up returning it.

>>13608672
Turkish tea >>>> Turkish coffee.

>>13595478
I've come to the conclusion that majority of brick coffee is made thinking people are just going to dose it in cream, sugar or just make cubanos. This brand is alright through the filter, but its like the harsh robusta bit from pilon mixed with that shitty earthy dirt flavor from la Rica, but more tolerable. I think folgers might be better.

>>13609530
Espressoforge is the meme, ROK is the trash manual. I'll admit I did skim over his 12euros comment so I don't know EU prices vs us of the flair/robot. I do know that I lost one of the feet to my flair and they overnighted some. CS response was under 30 minutes.

>>13609932
Lavazza Rosa bruck coffee has a nutty taste that I enjoy black but 4chinz always tells me it's trash so maybe it
s just me.

>>13608672
i do

>>13609993
Nah, I've had some Italian bricks from Lavazza like the forte, but those where good. Brick coffee is like tea bags. Will never compare to full leaf, but can still be enjoyable. I always keep a box of bag tea for when I just need something quick.

Out of the American bricks the only one that wasn't ass was Cafe Llave. Bustelo is charcoal; La Rica is dirt; Pilon is ok, but really harsh; Premium Pilon is eh in that its not charcoal like Bustelo, but doesn't really have flavor; and this El Aquila is like pilon and la Rica combined. I'm hoping this one columbian one down the Spanish isle is good. I have some decent Ethiopian beans from luckys I need to grind, but it's too depressing to go to the store.

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>>13594472
>flat white
It's essentially what my local coffee place makes for a cappuccino. That microfoam is great.

I have been drinking the same coffee from my french press for five hours now
so good

Bump

>>13564427
any tips on making latte art at home?
I use instant coffee and froth milk using a cheap electric hand help milk frother. I feel like I am close to a heart (easiest design I think) but my froth just end spilling randomly in a weird circle.

I've been practicing since 2 weeks now.

>>13564427
>what are you drinking
nescafe gold instant coffee
>where is it from
nearest store (cover says 52% authentic arabica though)
>getting anymore
want to get past drinking instant coffee but I am a poorfag

>>13575864
try to get a washed process, those are usually more delicate and not super in your face

So I do enjoy v60 coffee and make my coffee with it most of the time, mostly because I can make 300ml cups. However, whenever I brew a small aeropress cup I feel like it's waaay more flavorful and complex. Even the smell is different, it feels like the complexities of the coffee come through very noticeably. In the v60 the smell/taste is more muted and flat in comparison.
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. I use the Hoffmann method usually. The v60 cup is not unpleasantly bitter or acidic, so I'm not sure in what way I should tweak it. I guess I should try to go for higher extraction/finer grind for more flavor? But I'm already at 3-3:30 brew time so I dunno if that's a good idea. I also already use boiling water.

>>13592419
What do you think about the salvadorean coffee?

>>13613793
Haven't roasted it up yet. Just got it vacd down so I'm not manhandling 5lbs. Shits $36 an lb.

Bump

I pulled the trigger and got a Timemore last week. However, Im curious as to if itll be delivered late, or at all, with the coronavirus shit going around since its from China. Am i gonna be down with the virus if it comes at all?

Are there any advantages to using a moka pot over a v60 and or french press? What are the texture and flavour differences?

>>13592439
Enjoy the fluoride tainted coffee.

Bump

>>13577091
Because you can use trash beans or just the stuff you gotta 'get rid of' but isn't completely dead yet
Toss it in, forget about it, then add whatever to it if you don't actually like the taste of ass in the morning.
Don't waste good beans on cold brew
If it's quality stuff you ought to at least give the beans a reach around by flash brewing instead

Cold brew is the most minimal effort for batch gains that you can get, plain and simple.

>>13613265
Gotta do it fast

Ok, so, started cold brewing a couple months ago, everything going good, today I wake up and the jar has this shit in it... Did I accidentally drop something in there, like some sort of dairy? Is this some kinda coffee rot? I made this jar this past Friday sooo, that would be weird, all the other jar have been fine. Not sure what I’m lookin at.

>>13617683
thanks anon, I realized the same recently, here's my journal entry:


# 03/02/2020
## Update
- None
## Art
- Bubbles in espresso ~ creama. It isn't wrong.
- Closest to a heart (design) today, best attempt of all time.
- Trick: Pour faster. I've been pouring very slow
- Tilt the milk pourer more to pour more volume
## Taste
- The best yet.
- Temprature was great (same as yesterday)
- Coffee tasted more like "coffee" today. Aroma was wonderful.
- Reason: I left the cold coffee to brew for more time(this trick does wonders!)
- Sugar was even less than yesterday, it was better.
- I think I am developing a taste for coffee's "bitterness"


>>13615382
its thiccer, v60 is more like tea in comparison

>>13617812
I have to say that I respect the hell out of your dedication to developing coffee autism. Having said that, what the fuck is this?
>I left the cold coffee to brew for more time
You're not supposed to cold brew espresso, anon.

>>13617758
Looks like it has started to ferment a bit. It should be fine to drink. Coffee is too acidic and too low in sugars for it to ferment much. Just remove the solids.

My guess is either you used sweeter/less acidic beans than in previous batches or your kitchen is a bit warmer now than when you started.

>>13586026
>>13584964
Same boat. Going to do the Hoffmann method. My question is just what size do you grind? I'm from the moka world so I'm use to finner grounds. If anyone french press anons could post pics of there grind size or what setting they would choose on these machines.

>>13618441
There's a fucking picture of a french press on there. Pick that. Go slightly finer next week...

>>13618450
In the video Hoffman acts like that should be too course though.

>>13617836
pardon my wrong choice of words, it wasn't an espresso from machine. It was filter coffee. I am experimenting with cold brew, older cold brew tastes surprisingly better. I am trying to find out how old is the best.

>>13618461
Yeah, it will be. You can spend a week with a coarser grind if at the end of that week you understand why you want to go finer. All of those junk chinese french presses will have varying micron screens. Learn the grind for your press. Your starting point is "coarse".


This shit is fantastic boys. On the shortlist for rebuy.

>>13618703
Alright, I'll just have to start in the middle and experiment. Nice beans btw. Sounds like classic comfy nutty coffee.

Bought a programmable brewer that lets me wake up to coffee ready to drink because while I don't like the idea of grinding six hours before I drink it, I'm not awake enough to tell that for my first two cups at 5am. Set it to start at 4:55 before I went to bed, thinking "well this will be interesting." Woke up at 3:30 in the morning smelling coffee and had to actually tramp out to the kitchen to determine that no, it hadn't started early... I'd actually dreamed of waking up to the smell of coffee and sleep inertia was powerful enough to keep that illusion after I woke.

>>13619668
Could go full sperg and buy 1/5 of an lb of 5 different grinds of the same beans or something.

Roasting this up in the morning.

>Country: Ethiopia
>Region: Yirgacheffe
>Variety: Heirloom
>Elevation: 1800m
>Tasting notes:
>Once again the Honey Process has added another level of complexity to this coffee. It has a silky mouth feel and as it cools a sweet coconut flavor that I am loving!

>Jasmine, Stone Fruit, Blueberry and Coconut

>>13609530
i was looking at the lelit pl41tem. any opinion on that one?

bought a SR 540 roaster
any tips?

Had anyone here tried white coffee before?

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I'm drinking french roast Gevalia single keurig compatible cups. After the first cup I jam in some instant coffee clumps and reuse. Then for the third cup I dump out half the contents and spoon in more instant coffee. Gradually throughout the day my coffee transitions from grounds to instant.

>>13564427
God fuckin damn all I wanted was a quick cup so I busted out some old Folgers instant and it tastes like I liquefied a Dixie cup. How do I do instant?

>>13613466
Update: Ok I tried making coffee the Kasuya 4:6 way and it's A LOT better. Though there's one thing I don't get, even though my grind looks really damn coarse it takes about 4:10 for the brew to finish (20g coffee, 300ml water). Am I doing something wrong?

Also I'm not sure if it's the actual method of Kasuya that makes a better cup than Hoffmann, or it's the fact that I grind way coarser. Maybe Hoffmanns method with this grind would be better too.