/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13526509
Remember when peoe used to tell stories about how Roman decadence was so excessive that people would eat until they vomited and then eat some more? Remember when it was proven that shit like that DIDN't actually happen even at the height of Roman excess? And now it's our reality. The collapse looms. Prepare yourself.

Source? I bet this is fake.

Based, cico fags destroyed

>>13526509
That's just bulimia with extra steps

>>13526528
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2093802-stomach-tap-to-let-obese-people-empty-their-gut-after-eating/

FDA link:

>https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-aspireassist-obesity-device
"To place the device, surgeons insert a tube in the stomach with an endoscope via a small incision in the abdomen. A disk-shaped port valve that lies outside the body, flush against the skin of the abdomen, is connected to the tube and remains in place. Approximately 20 to 30 minutes after meal consumption, the patient attaches the device’s external connector and tubing to the port valve, opens the valve and drains the contents. Once opened, it takes approximately five to 10 minutes to drain food matter through the tube and into the toilet. The device removes approximately 30 percent of the calories consumed."

>>13526537
absolutely disgusting
it's like body horror

>calories
>absorbed
proof the FDA and in that sense most dietary doctors has no fucking clue how digestion works

>>13526509
why dont they just release the gum thats a 3-course meal from the willy wonka movie? obviously they made one, and that was a long time ago, so why not more? or did they not fix the side effects? any updates on that?

>>13526548
Please explain digestion for us then, oh wise one.

>>13526537
>2016

>>13526570
Ever heard of calories in, calories out? Once the calories go in, they're in

>>13526575
Holy fuck, anon.

>>13526575
What the fuck man

>>13526575
Tell that to a bulimic, dingleberry.

>>13526509
not everyone can make themselves throw up, its one of those body quirks.

that said, I don't think that monstrosity is going to be doing anyone any favors, cutting 30% off an unhealthy diet doesn't change the fact that its an unhealthy diet.

>>13526575
anon, please go study 4th grade biology, food doesn't just magically disintegrate the moment it goes past the throat.

>>13526575
...

>>13526518
Blah blah blah people aren't going to in any significant numbers nor will the average doctors even approve this procedure for just anyone. Fucking doomers always finding the craziest fringe shit from literal who blogs and "sources" and acting like everyone is going to hop on it.

>>13526616
>not everyone can make themselves throw up
with a tongue scraper they can

>>13526575
Digestion is a process, and doesn't really "begin" until the chyme hits the intestines.

If you empty the stomach before it goes further, you gain no calories or nutrients.

>>13526518
If it's such a fatal cycle I guess it's no use worrying about that.

>>13526643
Small corretion, digestion as a process begins in the mouth. Nutrient absorption on the otherhand doesn't really start until the small intestine.

>>13526610
Why do that when I can make money off them by shoving a tube in their body?

>>13526509
so instead of having some SELF CONTROL its better to have a plastic tube sticking out of your stomach?

>>13526649
Is it really digestion if you're not absorbing anything yet, though?
I'd say that the breakdown of food begins in the mouth and stomach. The digestion happens next.

>>13526575
all the fags replying to this bait.

Very obese people have ruined metabolisms.
They are CONSTANTLY hungry and their body is always trying to get back to fatness. Their BMR plummets, and never really recovers.

https://mayooshin.com/biggest-loser-study-maintain-weight-loss/

Imagine weighing 250lbs and having a BMR of 1900 calories, when every BMR calculator says it should be like 2400.

Imagine cutting back to 2000 calories (the recommendation for most men) and GAINING 100lbs in weight slowly over 6 years after having lost 200 pounds in a crash diet before that.

And then your BMR drops AGAIN.

>>13526692
Imagine if they paid attention when they gained like 10 or 20 pounds and made an adjustment at that point rather than waiting to gain 100 pounds over 6 years.

isnt this like puking?

>>13526518
If it was so great everyone would already have lapbands or gastric bypasses. Having a permanent ostomy with a constant risk of infection would suck. It wouldn't be fun or a good time. This is for extreme 500lb lardass situations where the person cannot stop eating and if you take away their food they start assaulting people. if you faggots would just wake up and start treating it like a real addiction rather than let surgeons solve everything with expensive procedures (aka making hospitals money because you view making money as a moral imperative) then this kind of shit wouldn't have to exist.

>>13526692
I don't know, man. Maybe. All I know is my experience going from 430 to 180. My desire for water was insane. And still is. I go through like 4 liters of water a day. My body never stops being thirsty. I feel like my appetite and calorie 'processing' or whatever you want to call it is normal though.

But I realize every body is different, too.

>>13526692
nah this is bullshit pseudoscience that you don't understand.

don't ever post links to a pop news article about a study instead of a study. that means you don't understand the scientific concept and rely on someone interpreting it wrong for you.

>>13526743
I view letting fat fucks die as a moral imperative. If they want to throw away some of their money to fund medical research or pay a surgeon's salary or whatever in the meantime, that seems good to me.

>>13526762
So cite your study and prove him wrong or shut the fuck up, faggot.

>>13526509
Yes let's try to get staph infection so we can eat more pies!

this is getting ridiculous
if you want to lose weight, do not eat any fat.
fat is extremely calorie dense.

Imagine if every health resource in the world told you that 2000 calories were standard for a 160-180lb male, so you do that, and you never lose weight.

also, gaining 100lb over 6 years is a SLOW increase.
You'd be gaining about 22oz of weight every month. You wouldn't notice it on a bathroom scale for a while.

Do you seriously notices 1-2 pound weight shifts every month?

>>13526755
You might have diabetes.
When was your last fasting glucose?

>>13526755
My experience of going 400 to 220 was that I ended up needing to consume less than 1500 calories a day to maintain my weight at 220.

My dietician called me a liar until I documented it.
Now he thinks I have an undocumented endocrine disease and takes my blood monthly.

>>13526518
fpbp

>>13526509
just get crohn's the weight just melts away

>>13526518
>vomitorium
people got confued because there was something called a vomitorum, but turns out that was just a hallway because in ancient times vomit just meant to leave

>>13526692
thats why you have to fast literally until you're a normal weight. the reducing calories and eating 6 meals a day bullshit may very well make it worse

>>13526823
About 4 weeks ago. My doctor said the same thing. He since everything was fine, and it's just water, there's no problem.

>>13526509
That sounds like wasting money

>>13526557
They still haven't gotten the dessert course figured out, iirc. Far too many blueberry daughters have had to be squeezed and juiced over the years. The future is toilet tubes.

>>13526575
You got me.

>keep hearing about "losing water weight" when starting to diet/exercise

Does this mean that every fat fuck is a huge sack of water or is every fit/normal person dehydrated?

>>13526509
that's revolting

>>13526692
Imagine thinking that the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to fat fucks.
Imagine your body has a BMR of 2000kcal. You get fat and that rises to 3000.
If you were to get to the point you were before, that doesn't go down below 2000. You don't break the first fucking rule of thermo-fucking-dynamics by getting slim again.

>>13526537
>internet news
how retarded are you?

>>13526726
Wouldn't have the negative side effects of bulimia

>>13527019
fat people keep eating and thinking "It doesn't count, it's only a snack" and they actually eat while hiding if you try to help them lose weight by counting calories.
Them they blame their genetics and metabolism . I'ts fucking disgusting!

>>13526766
This
Lardasses typically have no value in society, at least if they throw their money away as they do, they can actually serve a purpose other than sweating, eating and breaking lawn chairs.

>>13526575
calories can't go out unless they come in first

>>13526518
>The collapse looms. Prepare yourself.
By doing what lmao

>>13527059
just eat a lot of chalk with your meals

>>13526509
does it work the other way around? I wonder what would happen if you stuck the other end of the tube up your butt

>>13527152
Have you never heard of a feeding tube? All this is is a peg tube but inverse

>>13526509
Pointless in most cases because people (or would I rather say fat fucks) who have eating problem won't suddenly get thinner by using it.
Reason is simple, their stomach gets bigger over time. They always have to fill it or else they will feel horrible hunger.
Emptying stomach after eating will just bring that hunger back making them want to eat and devour shit again.
This might work as some fun torture device tho

>>13527154
Not him but I've worked with both nasal tubes and PEG a lot and I'd expect something like this to clog fucking constantly.
The one in the OP does look thicker than a PEG, but still.
Unless you're on a liquid diet this will be a major hassle to work with. And if you have the willpower to limit yourself to liquids you don't need surgery to lose weight anyway.

>don't eat less
>get this expensive and unnecessary surgery that'll probably have tons of complications because only complete retards will get it
american health care at its finest

Old news

https://youtu.be/R-o7YG3x0DI

>You have to be willing to chew your food!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Znr_a2V2d1c

>>13526509
How fucking hard can it be to stick your fingers in your throat? Or has decades of sucking black dick desensitized the white american puke reflex?

Here's how you solve the obesity epidemic make it illegal to be obese and these people get rounded up and sent to fat camp where it's all starvation diet and cardio then they get released when they're at a normal bmi

>>13527676
That ruins your throat all that constant acid. Hence why this is being referred to as bulimia without the negatives.

>>13526509

>>13526518
this is some facebook-mom shit right here

>>13527725
>bro, just violate everyone's basic human rights, bro

>>13526887
This. It turned out to be pure bullshit.

>>13527725
Damn have you heard of the country called "China"?

>>13527675
>2015
Funny how this completely inconsequential piece of plastic managed to trigger this retard so much >>13526518

>>13526509
do it faggot
post pics
you absolute madman

>>13526692
>2000 calories
They’re lying about their calorie intake. Cheating on diets is a way of life for fat people

>>13526692

>>13527021
>fda.gov

How stupid are you? It's called aspireassist and it's real

>>13526668
You might want to look up the definition of digestion

>>13526575
Based retard

>>13526637
as if doctors haven't happily fueled the opioid crisis for profit
modern medicine stopped caring about helping people decades ago

>>13529982
Based doctors insanely brutally murdering thousands of degenerates with oxycodones and gastric bypass

>>13527019
>Imagine thinking that the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to fat fucks.
Metabolism is a thing, retard.

>>13526509
>fatties aren't subhuman

Jesus chirst, how horrifying. This is some straight up science fiction shit. Fat retards getting a colonoscopy bag installed in their stomach to lose weight.

>>13527598
>cinco products are real now
i'll take a cinco phone please, i'm tired of scammers calling me

>>13526818
If that happened I would suggest you stop eating 1500 extra calories on the side

Leaving an open wound directly into a the gut of a slovenly individual seems like a bad news.

>>13526766
Unfortunately they don't die fast enough and spend 20-30 in the hospital on the tax payer dime.

>>13530265
Nigger metabolism might be a thing but the brain requires a certain amount of calories to work and so does your body. fat make is that caloric need increase in order to maintain the weight.
Unless you are saying fat people are able to break both the laws of biology and physics they are lazy fuck who refuse to move and eat too much. That's it.

>>13526509
Source, motherfucker. That looks like a PEG tube, which people use to get sustenance when they can't eat by mouth.

>>13530568
>fat make is that caloric need increase in order to maintain the weight.
Are you illiterate?

>>13530599
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/woman-empties-stomach-out-through-9043021
I don’t usually spoofed lazy newfags but here you go.

>>13526575
and they said the university of /fit/ was a joke

>>13530599
Google aspire assist

>>13530040
what do you think abortion is?

>>13527068
if you're ugly on the outside, your insides rarely surprise. Skin deep is the biggest lie ever told.

>>13530844
The woman’s choice

>>13529800
>bro, just violate everyone's basic human rights, bro
Yes. Here's a mostly up-to-date map of obesity per county, notice how the slimmest countries are also the shitholest ones, while the countries where people care about rights are the fattest.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Obesity Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Fridge Like Nigga Close Your Mouth Haha

>>13526537
I read it as
>A dick shaped port valve

>>13526509
do americans really?

>>13526977
Jesus I want to fuck a consenting >18yo who has been inflated with blueberry juice. Imagine the smell, so round, we would roll around together while I would be inside her

ostomy bags are not fun or cool to have

Let's go back into past and not discover america this time

>>13531011
jej

>>13526518
My inital thoughts were similar

>>13526575
FUCK

>>13526977
>violet you're turning violet!

:)

>>13526575
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this website. Congraturation.

just another way these parasitic fat fucks on medicaid and welfare can bleed us dry, throwing away perfectly good food just because they don't want to digest it fully

>>13526509
Having a hole in your abdomen like that is a path for infection to enter the body. Honestly it would be safer to stay fat.

>>13526509
so... bulimia but with surgery involved?

>>13531909
Absolute uneducated bullshit.
PEGs have been mentioned several times in the thread already and they have a very low risk of infection after the initial procedure.

>>13526575
Based

>>13526692
Remember that Scottish fat guy like 45 years ago that fasted for 1 year while only consuming vitamins and water under medical supervision? He lost all the weight and ended up keeping it off because he had to totally reform a relationship with food after not eating for a year. Maybe other fat people should take a page out of his book and look into fasting if they can't count their calories right.

>>13532180
That sounds like a big fat lie.
What was his name? I want to read more about this.

>>13532208
Angus Barbery

He then died at like 50-something from heart problems

>>13526509
>>13526537
They originally developed this for cows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7TY9t0VBxU

>>13532232
You'll pardon me for not taking this as a very credible source
https://unbelievable-facts.com/2018/02/angus-barbieri.html

And it's definitely pure bullshit.

>>13532733
>And it's definitely pure bullshit.
Not him, but ok.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

One search.

>>13526509
wtf do americans really do this!?

>>13526509
does it come with coloured hair, nose piercing and a "I'm with HER" sticker?

>>13526790
and watch as your skin dries and your hair falls out.

You need a lil fat, c'mon.

>>13526575
This right here is so fucking stupid that this retard can't possibly be baiting.

>>13527172
Its called natural selection and it fucking works.

>>13526639
>Tongue scraper
What a weird name for cock

>>13532720
thought the same when i read that
hard to believe it wasnt posted sooner

>>13526547
This.

>>13526575
ebic post