/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13521559
Buy once, cry once. I've had mine for 30 years. Use it once a week on average. If I used it more, I'd get the skookum commercial one.

>>13521559
Only if you make your own bread.

>takes up your counter space forever

They made better ones in the 90s. We had one that you could attach a meat grinder and blender too. Put leftover roast lamb through the grinder for Sheppard's pie.

>>13521559
If you can buy a pro for $200 you should

I have the cheaper artisan and don't regret buying it.

>>13521559
I bought one from the Harper brand for 60€ in sales in 2015, it works great, I often wonder what's the fuss about these expensive KitchenAid.

>>13521585
Genuine Kitchenaid mixers all, or almost all, have the same hub that you can attach accessories to, for grinding meat or, juicing lemons, or whatever.
You just have to purchase the accessories separately.
The hib has been the same since before Hobart sold the Kitchenaid brand to WorldKitchen or whatever the company is called.

>>13521580
Mine is in a cabinet until I want to use it. But, I get your point. The counter-top appliance siege is terrible.

>>13521627
Kitchenaid mixers have more or less use the same design since Hobart owned the brand and manufactured them.
The hub on the front of the motor arm has remained the same since the Hobart days, so any accessories you may have collected in the past or inherited can be used on newer machines, or vice versa.
Parts are pretty much available to repair older machines if necessary, so you can keep the machines running for deacades if you would prefer to keep using an older mchines that somehow broke.
I believe you can actually purchase stainless paddles and dough hooks even for the dmaller artisan machines if you prefer that to the cast aluminum accessories.
The gearing in the Kitchenaid mixers is mostly steel, with the exception of the plastic sacrificial gear, so the mixers should actually start operating smoother and more efficiently with long term use.(The gears will slowly wear against each other getting smoother with age, reducing friction and increasing efficiency)
This is unlike the British Kenwood mixers, which had gearing that might have been plastic or some sort of cast alloy that was either aliminum or zinc.
(To be fair though, the engineering of the gearing on the Jenwood mixers must have been fantastic given the crap material and the Kenwood reputation)

>>13521821
>British Kenwood mixers
James May puts one of these together on his "Reassembler" series. It's not a bad machine, and has a couple of examples of clever engineering.

>>13521917
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b087kbc8

Forgot the link.

>>13521559
Yes, if you bake. Bread, cheesecake, quick breads (soda risen), cakes, whipped cream, whippin whites (meringues), etc., all of that I have done to good effect. Never used it for cooking, but might make BBQ sauce in it this weekend. Get the Sam's Club model or a refurb. The refurbs are old shells (painted) with ALL NEW machine parts. It really is getting a brand new machine. I got the Professional, 6 qt 600W, bowl lift with spiral hook and all for liek 2 hunny$. I think the Sam's is 5.5 qt but it is essentially the same as the 6.

Look, they even have one in your color you fucking queerbait.

>>13521821
>any accessories you may have collected in the past or inherited can be used on newer machines
Not sure this is correct for non-hub stuff, as the larger bowls are lifts and the smaller bowls are tilts. You have to match the paddle accessories to the unit, but AFAIK there are only two (maybe 3) sizes of the accessories. The hub accessories (sausage, pasta) are probably universal.

>>13521559
I've moved several times and am glad I own a bowl lift model because most of the places I've lived there isn't proper clearance in the kitchen for one of the tilt head models

>>13521585
they weren't any better in the 90s. the only difference now is there is a sacrificial gear so if the thing gets jammed it doesn't self destruct and you're only out a $4 nylon gear instead of having to gut the entire thing.

>>13521580

My wife keeps ours on top of our fridge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKp-0h9P18

>>13521580
>>13521817
>>13521988
I felt detered from using mine as often as I wanted to because I had to relocate it each time for years, last week I decided to make some room for it, it's now readily available and it feels great, I won't stop using, mostly to make doughs. I swapped it with the mortar and pestle location.

Mixers will shred meat a lot quicker than those meme claws.

>>13522007
I'm going to try this next time. Whisk attachment, I presume.

I've been using the food processor. Like 3-4 pulses seems to be perfect. Easier to clean the mixer, I think.

Wait a minute, is it possible to have blades on a KitchenAid ?

>>13522083
They make a food processor/chopper/grindamathing attachment.

>>13522107
>food processor
Right, non native me forgot that key word, I looked it up and man it reminds me of when I put a suppressor on a M60 in some game.

I was wondering because I bought a small food processor recently, I'm realizing that maybe I should have just bought an attachment.

>>13522036
Use the paddle

>>13522151
THanks. Will try. Even easier to clean than the whisk.

>>13521960
>Not sure this is correct for non-hub stuff, as the larger bowls are lifts and the smaller bowls are tilts. You have to match the paddle accessories to the unit, but AFAIK there are only two (maybe 3) sizes of the accessories. The hub accessories (sausage, pasta) are probably universal.
There are two major bowl types,
The twist lock bowls made for the Artisan Tilt head mixers,
And the bowls with the holed flanges on the sides that hook into the yoke system on the bowl raising and lowering mixers.
The Tilt head mixers come in a few bowl sizes, but my understanding is the bowls are interchangeable, with the 5quart, 4.5quart, and 3quart bowls all basically having the same geometry, and lower dimensions, just different heights.
The paddles are therefore also interchangeable.
I’m not sure whether the bowl raising mixers are the same or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the larger and smaller bowls just varied in height.
I don’t own one though so I can’t confirm.

>>13522006

I had to pull it down for her the other day. Shit's heavy as hell, but when I saw it stirring by itself I was like wow. That shit could kill someone if it falls on their head.

>>13522083
>>13522107
The food processor attachment for the Kitchenaid mixer costs the same as the classic Cuisinart Pro Custom 11, which has been the standard for quality for a food processor since it was first introduced.
If you need a food processor, just buy the Cuisinart, unless you’re really tall or something. I doubt you’ll save any space with the attachment.

>>13521821
Imagine giving this much critical thought to a mixer lmao. I'm impressed anon, unironically. Makes me want to go buy one.

>>13522217

Not him, but is this really how it works? you give zero shits about your equipment and you fit in, you spend too much time thinking about it and you're overqualified for the board?

>>13522208
I'm >>13522107. I was just answering the other poster's question. But you're right. A proper food processor is the way to go. My Mom had the attachment for her Kitchenaid, and I hated using it. She always insisted I'd use it when I'd go over to cook for her. Miserable to clean.

The pasta thing is the same way. It's generally inferior to a run-of-the-mill hand pasta machine, and a pain in the ass to clean.

The only attachment I have is the meat grinder/sausage stuffer. I bought mine after using a friends several times. For the 3-4 times a year I make 2 pounds of sausage, it's fine.

>>13521559
If it has at least 500 watts, yes.

>>13521585
All the pro series mixers are built solid as a rock.
The artisan and cheaper ones are pieces of shit.

>>13521960
This sounds like a good idea about the refurb pro's, only thing you gotta watch out for is the height. The artisan fits under my cabinets, the pro would be too tall.

>>13522236
Agree with the dedicated food processor. The attachment doesn't even look like a proper processor with blades and shit for making a shit ton of pesto or hummus or whatever.

>>13522314
>The attachment doesn't even look like a proper processor with blades and shit for making a shit ton of pesto or hummus or whatever.
It's great for smearing vegetable guts around the blade cylinder.

>>13521559
fyi, if you decide to get one..
Run it on high for about 5 minutes before mixing any food.
It's going to have a shitload of grease in it that's not settled and it could leak into the mixing bowl as it's going.
Let it run with a paper towel under it then give all the moving parts there a wipe down.
It's not the end of the world if some grease gets into your food, because it is food safe, but I'd rather not.
Also it'll smell like it's burning, that's just the grease again.
After an hour or two of use, it'll stop with the burning smell.

>>13522314
The main issue with the Kitchenaid Mixer food processor attachment may be the speeds.
Dedicated food processors like a Cuisinart, basically have a direct drive motor, with the blades attaching directly to the motor arbor.
Since the arbir is directly attached to the motor, no power gets lost by gearing or belts between the motor and the arbor to which the blades attach, and the only thing that can really go wrong it a bad bearing or worn out brushes.
Also, a Cuisinart has a 625 Watt motor.
The Kitchenaid Artisan mixer just has a 325 Watt motor, and the motor has to go thru a gear set, and then posdibly another set of gears in the food processor attachment.
Given all the gearing, a bunch of power will get lost in the transmission system.
The only possible advantage to this is a spill over in the food processor is less likely to leak into the motor with the moxer attachment, although Zi’m not sure if this is really an issue with a Cuisinart.

>>13522314
>The artisan fits under my cabinets, the pro would be too tall
That's the entire point. You keep it out on the counter to impress your "friends."

>>13521559
The right stand mixer will last 10 (ten) years at least, so well worth the price

>>13522377
>That's the entire point. You keep it out on the counter to impress your "friends."
I thought the whole point of keeping the mixer on the counter, was because mixers are heavy and annoying to move.
As the other anon mentioned, a mixer is heavy enough to kill someone if it dalls on their head, and nobody likes having to move one constantly just to make some whipped cream.