/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13247180
Having a cup of organic Kenyan speciality coffee from Drop Coffee right now. It's good but I'm not sure if Kenyan coffee is for me. I'd recommend anons to try it however.

Is coffee good for you?

>>13247403
It's good for getting pussy.

>>13247403
If you don't load it with cream and sugar, Yes*
unless you have a heart arrhythmia or anxiety. I have pretty serious anxiety 95% I can drink it fine no problems but 5% of the time it will induce panic like symptoms.
its terrible for your teeth's enamel and will stain them.
Caffeine is highly addictive, most used psychoactive drug on the planet.

>>13247971
>caffeine
>addictive
How?
Also, stains are easy to avoid with proper dental care.

What happened to all the anons?

>>13248073
Caffeine has withdrawal symptoms. It's a mind stimulant. What do you expect.
The good news is there's really no point not being mildly caffeinated.

just brewed the worst v60 of my life. apparently some soap stayed on the cone even after i rinsed it this morning, wound up wasting expensive beans on coffee that tasted like soap. my bloom phase bubbles literally had a soapy sheen to them. fuck my life

>>13249213
end yourself

>>13249213
>soap
I just rinse mine with water, how dirty was yours to require soap?
>>13249182
I've never noticed withdrawal symptoms, even when I've gone without coffee for weeks.

>>13249245
i use water 90% of the time, but i used soap because i notice a bit of coffee buildup where the ridges meet the main body of the cone

>>13247385
what method did you use? I've noticed that coffee high in acidity (Kenya, Burundi) often upset my stomach (even when brewed correctly) and they tend to have little to no body.

French press vs pourover coffee

Someone redpill me on the pros and cons of both. Which method is the coffee brewing meta.

I've been drinking tea my whole life and coffee is something I don't know much about.

>>13249296
french press is the meta for normies who buy grocery store blends, but their meta should be the clever dripper.
v60 is the meta for people who buy high quality single origin and want to taste different varietals of coffee
espresso is the meta for eurofags and americans who think they're better than everyone else

>>13249296
FP - floral/fruity flavors not so complex as in pourover but the nutty/chocolate do shine; it's easier to brew correctly, forgives more, easy to brew lots of coffee (up to 900 ml with no problem), no need for a gooseneck kettle

pourover - better for floral/fruity coffees (Ethiopia, Kenya, Rwanda), harder to master

It's hard to say which one is "meta". In speciality coffee - pourover. But in commodity coffee - I don't know, probably FP

There's always grounds in my cup after french press even after waiting 1-2 minutes after I press, what do?

>>13249440
deal with it. that's french press for you

>>13249326
But I know I'm better than everyone else

>>13249445

O-okay...

>>13249440
You can pour it through a pre-wetted paper filter but otherwise silt just comes with the territory

>>13249440
Sounds kind of retarded but what I used to do is put a coffee filter over the screen itself and then use the thing normally. Sometimes the screen/mesh that comes with the french press gets torn or stretched in ways that allow grounds to come through the top.

>>13249326
The v60 just looks like an overrated pourover coffee appliance.

Tell me what the v60 does that a pourover wont.

>>13249904
Appliance? It's a piece of fucking ceramic. Are you retarded or something? The wording on your question doesn't even make sense. "Tell me what this pourover mug does that a pourover won't".

>>13249904
It's a fucking cone with a hole at the bottom to decant percolated liquid from a filter. A v60, just like a chemex, IS a pourover.

Could someone redpill me on the clever drip? I got the small one and size 2 filters, but the extraction stops near the end. I used 9g coffee and 130g water.
>>13249286
Scott Rao's method for the V60. I use 8g grounds for 130g water. Grind was medium.
>>13249904
>being this retarded

>>13250389
>I use 8g grounds for 130g water
do you like how your coffee comes out that way?
everything i've researched suggests that's just not enough coffee to get a good extraction from v60.

French pressed a cup of HEB Hawaiian blend this morning. 'twas nice and fruity. About to have some free work coffee with a spoonful of HEB french vanilla creamer.

>>13250499
I really like my coffee that I'm getting, but I generally brew at least two cups every time. For example; for 390g of coffee I use 24g grounds and 450g water.

>>13249296
French Press makes amazing dark coffee. Gets more oils out of the beans.

>>13250108
>>13250166
>>13250389

Not all appliances have to be electric. An appliance is just a tool or item used to complete a specific job.

So far none of you brainlets have answered my question. What does the v60 achieve that other pourover coffee appliances can't offer.

>>13250903
Why don't you go to >>13242658 that place seems more your speed, retard

>>13250978
I literally posted this >>13249296

I have already stated that I don't know much about coffee. It isn't particularly popular where I live.
I asked a few questions and you inbred sacks of dog shit have yet the cognitive capacity to answer a simple question.

>>13251002
>I asked a few questions and you inbred sacks of dog shit have yet the cognitive capacity to answer a simple question.
No, that's not what you did. What you did is bring your retarded ass into a coffee thread and then spout bullshit about the V60 being an "overrated appliance" and then call us all brainlets when we refused to spoonfeed your retarded ass and put up with your bullshit spouting. I say again, fuck off to the troll thread whence you came, you stupid fucking nigger.

>>13251174
You are quite pissed off dear niglet. The v60 is fucking overrated its the same thing as literally any other pourover coffee maker. So, answer my question retard. What can the v60 do that other pourover coffee makers can't/

>>13247403
Yes, unlike masturbation which wastes time and provides transitory enslaving pleasure.

>>13251609
Nobody is going to answer your retarded "question" because it doesn't make any sense. You don't even know what a fucking V60 is, so why does it matter to you anyways?

>>13247180
What are ya Bois drinking?

>>13251719
It's some chink made pourover coffee maker. I know how to do a google search shit-for-brains.

>>13249245
I get really bad headaches if I go without it past 1pm. I used to drink 6 or 7 cups a day until I started falling asleep at the wheel on my commute home if I didn't drink any before driving. I stick to three or less nowadays. It's the one thing other than breathing that I've done every day of my life for the last 5 years.

>>13251924
>6 or 7 cups
How big were the cups?

>>13247403
lmao, I remember that

Anybody got some knowlage on these things, any quality brand to look for when buying?

>>13249440
wait for 2 minutes, stir the grounds at the top of the coffee, let rest for another 4 minutes, then put the lid on. This might sound weird but dont actually press down, just use the filter; pressing down disturbs the grounds that have rested at the bottome of the FP. straight up always gets me the cleanest cup of coffee every time

Managed to make coffee correctly with the clever drip today. The coffee feels fuller, but the taste is less clear than made with the V60. I'll try with a slightly finer grind next time, and add two grams more of grounds.
Any anons here that want to tell about their own experience with clever drip?

>>13253006
Get a baletti if you know you like moka brew. Italian imports ate slightly better and aren't much more on amazon. Two Italian versions are Fiametta which comes in various colors and Dama which is there classic version but more arty. Al though any moka pot from them will be good. Biggest thing is to make sure the Amazon seller isnt trying to pass off fakes.

Most pots are going to be around $30 but as someone who has used the cheap ones from the Spanish isle and a baletti there is a huge difference in quality.
Cheap:
- thinner material
- pour spout spills
- can't take the filter and gasket fully apart

Baletti:
- thicker metal
- no spill spout
- can be fully taken apart
Bonus- pressure valve ca wiggle to help remove hard water build up.

Also its easy to by replacement filter and gasket with a baletti. Betty b.f able to fully take it apart is import so you can fully wipe it down and remove old coffee oils that would go rancid.

Here's a video.
https://youtu.be/rpyBYuu-wJI

I followed this no plunge French Press method and it tastes good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

>roommate got bag of starbucks blond roast
>instructions say 2 tablespoons of coffee per 6oz of water

>I picked up a bag of Laughing Man coffee, medium roast
>instructions say 1 tablespoon of coffee per 6oz of water

>other bags of coffee I’ve had in the past said 2 tablespoons per 8oz of water

I’m so confused. Which is correct? Or is there a preferred method for each individual brand?

>>13253418
I had picked this 1-cup moka pot up from my local Home Goods. Was only $8. I personally think it makes pretty good coffee but since its the only moka pot I’ve used, idk if I’m actually getting shittier quality than using a bialetti

>>13253849
Whoops forgot pic

>>13253837
None of that is right because no coffee uses ratios in tablespoons to whatever the fuck an "oz" is. And you use different ratios depending on what brewing method you're using so nobody can provide you with one definitive ratio.

Why do people recommend beginners to not go with the V60? A damn chimp could learn to brew excellent coffee after a few attempts.

>>13254767
>people
Who is doing this? Most people do recommend either a V60 or a generic metal carafe French press to new coffee people.

>>13254767
because most beginners aren't going to give enough of a shit to invest in a grinder or research the proper technique, or want to learn what they're doing wrong. the current cooking meta is boiling your meat in a plastic bag because people are lazy cunts

>>13249276
I periodically spray a little 90%+ iso on my portafilters to knock out oil buildup before it gets too far. Probably overkill, but whatever. You could also go super overkill and use alconox. We use that for stripping off buildup to mail real high end glass art "safely".

Messing with pourover on the Decent

A brew I made at around lunch time today.

22g:418g with 368g beverage weight. 1.29% tds for an extraction yield of 21.6%.

And a brew I made tonight.

22g:418g with 368g beverage weight. 1.29% tds for an extraction yield of 21.6%.

The repeatability of the Decent's pourover mode is great. Incredibly easy to get the exact same brew again and again. Which makes it incredibly easy to get the exact same brew but with a slight tweak applied to one part of it.

anything other than black Maxwell House brewed as strongly as possible is faggot shit

>>13254767
Probably because beginners are going to search for a V60 brewing tutorial and end up on Hario's official youtube channel which has this moron on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCW8xSWGZY

Pourover as a brewing method is still recovering from the damage that dumb jap inflicted on it.

>>13257629
What's wrong with his method? Just curious.

>>13257666
He leaves out the two most important steps in a good pourover brew: blooming and leveling the grounds. Blooming is a necessity because you need to degas the grounds before you can properly extract flavor from them. Leveling is important because you want all of your grounds to be as equally extracted as possible.

If that isn't bad enough, his stop/start brewing method is just excessively complicated and achieves nothing, making pourover seem pretentious and inaccessible to beginners. The only important variables during the pour stage are how much you disturb the grounds and how quickly you get your liquid in the dripper. Both of those variables can be adjusted just fine in a single pour.

>>13257743
Thanks for the informative post, I just skimmed through the video and thought it was a theory video due to the lack of steps.

>>13249445
basically this. maybe your grind is a bit on the small side, but having a bit of "dust" or I guess mud at the bottom of the cup is just what happens. You could probably get rid of at least most of it by cutting a paper filter and putting it onto the mesh part, if you were so inclined.

>>13253418

desu this. Not sure if a knockoff would make a worse cup of joe, but I've found that the basic bitch Bialetti models are generally not all that expensive in the first place.

>>13253837
most people advocate using mass to get correct grinds to water ratios, typically measured in miligrams.

If you don't want to do that I'd just stick with volumetric ounces or mililitres. From there it's literally just however much you find is best.

When did you start drinking coffee?

I fucking love wawa cortaditos. Or I guess since I get them sans sugar they are a cortado.
>>13259633
About a year ago as an ADHD cope. Now trying to get into nootropics.

Any recommendations on reasonably priced coffee? Been using trash tier beans for a long time. Can afford a bit better now, but not sure what to get.

>>13254918
Recommendations on an entry grinder?
Also, what would the proper technique be?

What is the real diffrence between a Flair manual espresso and cheaper manuals, i.e. Staresso and Wacaco on Amazon? They all seem to pretty much do the same thing, especially as far as manuals go since there arent any electronics to worry about.

>>13261205
I’d honestly recommend just getting the cheapest Kinu. I bought other grinders at a lower price point before and until I got the Kinu, I always had sour and bitter coffee at the same time. The Kinu saved pourover and french press for me.

>>13261196
Speciality beans, single origin and organic are good labels to look for.

>>13247180
I just made 2 gallons of cold brew concentrate
drinking it with condensed milk and ice cubes desu
very comfy

Bros, pls post coffee frogs for my collection

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>>13260023
You tried modafandil?

It's OTC here in Mexico.

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>>13249904
but it is literally just a cheap pour-over appliance anon that's the point

>>13257082
how is the temp stability pushing that much water through the decent? It doesn't have an actual boiler right?

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>>13263658
Anyone got the one with the refillable backpack

>>13247180
Ahhh yes, nothing like a fresh cup in the morning. Who drinks it black here?

What's a good ratio for an aeropress "espresso"?

what's the next step above a Silvia (or similar machine comparable to it)? Is it worth considering anything with only a 1000USD budget?

>>13262796
I think you mean Modafinil. Its rx in merica. You can take the early prodrug version of it Adrafinil which converts into modafinil partial in the liver. Problem is everyone keeps saying Adrafinil had shitty side effects sometimes and can mess up your liver if taken daily. I wish OTC DRIs where a thing, but I get why they aren't.

>>13262632

>>13264267

Reee

>>13247180
For the past week straight every evening I drink a large mug (I'm guessing about 500ml?) of 1:1 strong coffee mixed with bailey's.

rate out of 10 pls

picture related, the coffee i use

poorfag here
just ordered pic related six 11 oz. bags for $38 including shipping
Any other recommendations for cheap coffee you can buy in bulk? Taste doesnt matter since i drown that shit in m&s

>>13268625
fag/10
>>13268677
>dark roast
Anon...

>>13268741
>fag
Is this based on the bailey's or me disrespecting coffee?

>>13268745
You're drinking shitty meme coffee, can't day that I care about the baileys. You essentially posted about eating $1 hot dogs in a meat general. Stay away from pods and dark roasts, also consider organic coffee since the pesticides ruin the taste (besides destroying soil nutrition and giving everyone cancer).

Coffee is a luxury goods and should cost money, otherwise you're participating in slavery and helping Shekelstein enslave the planet. If you want I can give some links about coffee later, cheers anon.

>>13268825
I have and use better coffee too, I just don't want to waste that when I'm only looking for the bitterness to balance out the bailey's lmao

>>13268831
Oh well.

>>13268825
I’d like the links later

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>>13263458
Quite good, actually! There's no boiler, but water is kept warm, and the group is actively heated, so it can be pushed right at boiling for a pretty good while. Can see on the graphs (you can juuuust barely make out the red temperature line in that picture, actually) that it stays quite stable. Especially when you're using a pulse based brew.

Should be able to increase the flowrate or do more continuous pour style once the firmware to preheat the tank is out. Neither is particularly desirable to do for automated pourover, but nice to have the option.

>>13247180
Instead of sugar or cream I put some Oreos in my coffee today

Question about pourover brewing.
Are the grounds supposed to rise up and be floating around in the cone with no layer at the bottom? Or am I supposed to pour slowly enough that the grounds stay at the bottom the whole time?

up until now ive always just drank instant coffee. but i want to actually learn how to make good coffee and experiment with different forms of making coffee like french press etc. where should i start?

>>13271323
Proper amount of grounds to use is the most important. It doesn't matter how expensive your coffee or kit is, too much/too little grounds will kill a cup.

>>13271582
alright but, whats should i buy to practice with?

>>13271227
you want maximum immersion of the grounds

fill that bitch up to the top and let it drain back down. we want the entire filter covered in an equally thin layer of ground coffee.

I recently travelled internationally with my Kinu and now I have to set it quite a bit “coarser” to get the equivalent grinds before. I noticed when I set it to 0 the burrs even almost lock together now. Wtf happened? Did the spring settle in transit, or should I take it apart and put it back together again?

>>13271674
Very useful tip if you find yourself on a planet where gravity pulls water fucking sideways.

>>13271782
Because water only pulls through the bottom, not down at all points of the cone...

You're fucking retarded.

>>13271788
Just how deep do you think those channels are on the side of the V60, anon?

>>13271782
i want you to try it out yourself, neil degrasse tyson

and explain to me how the grounds stick all the way up the filter when you fill it to the top. a pour over has channels running all the way up the sides. there is space between the filter and sides at all points. yes, it will eventually run down to the funnel. but we want to make sure the water touches everything on its journey, not just a small well in the center of the compacted grounds

>>13271808
You are literally retarded. Please leave the thread immediately.

>>13271788
That's actually correct. The paper filter holds it in and guides it to the bottom. You can even brew in a dripper with no walls at all thanks to this effect. Water leaves through the bottom almost exclusively.

>>13271808
Explain how a St. Anthony Industries P70 works, then. Water only leaves through the tip.

>>13271883
>design product of a certain size, shape, and texture with filters to match

>white piggu asserts that you should only use <1/3 of the total surface area because he knows about 'gravity' (he doesn't mention surface tension, fluid dynamics, etc)

>>13266489
Perfect, thank you

>>13271907
>St. Anthony Industries
SoyfaceWojack.jpg
Also if you look at the video for the c70 you can clearly see grounds stuck to the sides of the filter like annons pic
>>13271674

I want to get a v60, should I get glass, plastic or copper. No ceramic, I don't feel like making my wife care about preheating the cone.

>>13272000
P70, dipshit, not C. The open one. It's retarded because it sucks for heat, but it proves your theory is bullshit or water would flow out the sides.

>>13272017
Plastic, holds heat best

>>13272032
You are a fucking idiot, just stop fucking posting. Water goes right through the filter paper on the sides and surface tension keeps it running down the outside of the paper. Where did you even get the idea in the first place that a filter holder like that would prove that water only exits the bottom of the cone?

>>13272066
Because I own one I got for testing. You can tell no significant amount of water is coming out the sides when it's right there in front of you.

>>13271615
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>>13272289
Oh so now it's a significant amount of water and not none at all? Hmm

>>13272349
I never said none at all. You might get 0.5% to 1% of your total water out the sides, no more than a ml or two in total.

>>13272358
I looked at St Anthony Industry filters. They say they are designed to only drain from the bottom and have thicker paper on the sides. I guess you are right about that one specific product. We were talking about the v60 where hario designs their paper and filter differently. Meanwhile i use a shitty melita brewer and the filters they sell are perforated on the sides.

>>13268625
What country are you in Anon? I don't think we have senseo here in burgerland anymore, I think Keurig ran them out of town

>>13272397
Same with v60 filters, actually. Kalita Wave filters too. Have tested with some various cheapass wireframe brewers, negligible side flow in any. Not sure about Melitta since the shape doesn't fit and I use a different brand anyway.

>>13271323
Buy a $200 grinder like a kinu. Your french presses and pourovers will be significantly better if you've got a consistent, fresh grind. After that try whatever (fresh) beans you can get and find where your tastes lie.

Have a good and productive morning lads!

>>13271777
Bumping again if anyone has any idea about this

I accidentally bought pre-ground coffee instead of whole bean and it seriously tastes like shit. Should I just throw it out or should I use it for something like cold brew

>>13272397
>>13272484
You're both fucking idiots. A significant portion of liquid is definitely going out the sides. You can see this in any video of the clear plastic V60: https://youtu.be/LmGKqzV7hQE?t=303..

But you still want your grounds to be level on the bottom of the cone because as the water drains you want it to remain in contact with all of the grounds for as close to the same period of time as possible. If your grounds stick to the sides of the cone near the top they're only being extracted for a few seconds. Your coffee is going to be sour and undrinkable.

Can I split up ground Cafe Bustelo after opening into multiple baggies and freeze them so it doesn’t go stale so quickly? Yes I know bustelo is cheap shit but it reminds me of camping with my dad so I like to make a pot on the moka sometimes.

>>13274250
>freezing

>>13247180
So whats a good grinder? I have a hario slim hand grinder, but I dropped it too many times and it cracked, so I'm looking for an electric one. Any suggestions?

>>13275154
Most people suggest the barraza encore and another one; I also think I missed spelled it. Its around $200 but then you only cry once.

>>13275218
I saw a video recommending the wilfa svart over the barraza encore. But i literally can't find anything about the svart online

>>13275445
there's James Hoffmann video. I used Wilfa for some time and the coffee was OK, but I never tried the Encore. There's also Eureka Filtro, but I came across only two, both positive reviews.

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>this general is reduced to bumps

All my roommates are gone for a few days so I get to enjoy the house to myself. So im going to blast my music and play DOOM that I'm currently downloading sans head phones.

Anyone going to make coffee for people on Thanksgiving? Going to try to cure their pleb ways?
>>13280060
It gets slow on here sometimes, but it picks up. People are probably doing holiday related things or working long shifts instead of lurking 4chins.

How to make cold brew

Also, why does everyone use mason jars for stuff?

>>13280099
>cold brew
Don't.
>mason jars
It's artisanal.

>>13280099
Cause mason jars are cheap and multi purpose.

>>13247180
>Drink coffee
>few minutes later ass starts sweating

The ass more specifically.
Does this happen to anyone else?

>>13249904
this absolute fuckin sped

>>13280072
Old DOOM? It's a good game.

>>13280544
The 2016 version. But I need to download the og ones. I remember trying to play it and wolfenstein when I was little. Problem is I couldn't play it well so I was stuck with the knife, and you can only get so far with the knife. The games didn't stick around though. Apparently my dad skipped going to church one time. My mom asked me why and I told her it was probably cause he was playing doom. So my mom made my dad get rid of it and he gave it to his brother. I wasn't trying to rat him out, just a naive kid. Kinda weird since we weren't that religious or went to church often. Sucks though. Never got a chance to really play it. We actually had a decent computer back in the day. It was a Pacardbell, with a x486, decent ram, and added cache chip; you used to have to buy cache separately instead of it coming already paired with the CPU like today.

>>13281050
Heh, did your dad forgive you? DOOM 2016 is awesome, I believe the first DOOM just goes for a few bucks now, personally got it during a sale for a dollar. Think I'll pick up Wolfenstein too.

>>13281110
Oh yeah. He was bummed, but knew I didn't do it on purpose. I dont think he played too many games after that sadly. I thought about buying the old school bundle which was in a stream sale, but I knew I don't have time right now to play. That or I could be cheap and DOSBOX it.

>>13247180
Question for people who have dedicated time to taste single origin blends.

What is the country with the tastiest coffee? Kenya? Mexico? Yemen? Colombia? Brazil? Somewhere else?

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pepsi max

>>13282109
>single origin blends

lmao... probably ethiopas are going to be your best bet from a price/availability/taste standpoint.

Planning to buy a French press for my dad's birthday, what's the differences between cheap ones and expensive ones (hario etc)?

>>13283560
better filter and build quality, plus they look nicer
If your dad's not a huge coffee guy he probably wouldn't notice the increase in coffee quality from a cheaper french press and an expensive one. So its probably a good bet to just get a decent one from the grocery store that doesn't look like garbage

>>13283589
AFAIK he at least have preference in his coffee but he very rarely buy beans, mostly those pre ground powder.

>>13282109
There isn't really a country with the tastiest coffee. Great coffee can be made anywhere that's tropical and high altitude (2000-3000m). On your list, Kenya and Colombia both fit that description and I've had plenty of great coffee from those countries.

Have a look at a topographic map of the world for yourself to find other places with good growing conditions. Chances are that if you can find a high altitude region in the tropics they are growing coffee there because it's the most profitable crop.

The only other thing I would add is that there are some countries with a more established coffee tradition than others and therefore offer more consistent quality. Ethiopia, Costa Rica and Panama come to mind.

Nowt better than a morning cup of kenco instant coffee, no sugar.

Had a huge panic attack two days ago, probably due to caffeine (was my first cup in a week). Feels bad. I really love coffee and it doesn't make me anxious right after I drink it, it's the comedown and next day that fuck me up. Did a half decaf half real coffee aeropress cup just now, still tastes great and should reduce the anxiety hopefully.

>>13247403
The ancient Egyptians believed coffee was a gift from the gods.

>>13285047
How would the Egyptians know that when coffee was first discovered in the 16th century?

Happy Thanksgiving!!

>>13285146
Ah, welcome to the diabetes club.

>>13285151
Hey man, I don't eat this much sugar on the daily. The whip topping is cause I bought pie and need to go through it.

>>13285156
Just be careful, anon.

I'm about to make some coffee. That is all. Happy Thankgiving everyone.

>>13285146
Looks delish.

>>13285160
I will.
>>13285803
Oh, this is a rare pepe.
>>13285868
It was. The chocolate cake one was really good. It wasn't super sweet like some cake ones can be, and the maple on it was dank.

>>13249440
Put 2 paper filters innit

>>13283728
If he's buying preground he'll be fine with just a cheep one.

>>13275154
I like the capresso infinity. It's $90 at Costco and you can take it back for a full refund if you want to upgrade. I only make espresso any more so I have a G. Rossi RR45. If I did it again if probably get the niche zero because I don't pull shots at the volume that my grinder is capable of and it retains a lot of grounds and takes up the counter space. I currently have a breville smart grinder pro in the closet as well because I thought I could sneak it onto the counter without the wife noticing but she freaked out so it's for sale lmao.

>>13283796
Thank you anon. I'll try your suggestions.

Coffee-new fag, why does everyone recommend lavazza for making espresso?

>>13283560
I'm a snob and I honestly can't complain about most of my bodum equipment. They make good glass French presses.

>>13283796
>>13282109
>>13283506
Keep an eye on Vietnam. Their consistency has been shit until recently but they're putting a lot more time and effort into quality control and traceability. I've been drinking pic related all week and it's been really really nice from start to finish.

>>13262177
All those mentioned in your post are shit. Please buy an espressoforge if you want manual. As an owner of several manual espresso machines, I can tell you they suck for entertaining.

>>13289728
Seconding Vietnam. I recently bought a few beans from them including a barrel aged batch and it was absurdly good. Not sure if they can maintain this quality, but they’re on my radar now.

>>13289745
I’ve wanted a manual as a backup during hurricane season. how does the espressoforge compare to the robot?

>>13289447
Nobody recommends Lavazza for espresso

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>he drinks decaff

>>13291376
Hey man, some people are caffeine sensitive.

>>13262177
Build quality. Espressoforge is trash counter space clutter with a mile long heatsink to leech temp.

>>13291376
I’d drink decaf too if it tasted better

Mom's adamant on buying a $$$ coffee maker. What brands should I steer her towards?

>>13289863
The robot is a lot clumsier to use and clean. Imagine using an aeropress with a pressurised filter so you can just pour from the top and then press. I especially like the fact that it's all standard 58mm espresso machine parts. Anything you can slap in a bottomless portafilter you can slip in the lockring. The pressure gauge can get a little bit of grounds stuck in it from time to time and eventually you'll have to replace it but it's a common ¼" threaded type so like $10. Basically it's an heirloom I'll keep forever.

>>13291460
post your espressoforge with a timestamp.
>leech temp
what is preheating

>>13292388
Buy her a breville barista express. It's on sale now and it comes with a grinder.
>>13289858
What roaster? I've been wanting to try barrel aged for so long.

>>13292447
unfortunately it’s just a local roaster called Mame Cocoro. I’ve eyed their barrel aged beans for a while but they’re usually stupid expensive, but a few weeks back they had a 70% off sale on those beans so I grabbed them.

>>13292404
That sounds really neat, I like the idea of full compatibility with 58mm baskets. You have to pre-measure your water, right? It seems a bit finicky to use regularly but I really dig the idea of a fully manual machine to keep around.

>>13293432
I've never used an espressoforge but in my experience with manual espresso it's best to just fill them up to maximum volume and pull the shot onto a scale to control your shot length.

Pre-measuring is a nightmare. If you're measuring cold, you have to control for volume losses in boiling and transfer between kettle and measuring device. If you're measuring hot, you're losing several degrees during the measuring process. With both methods you have to control for incomplete volume utilization in the cylinder. On top of all of that, you tend to keep a more consistent temperature with a larger volume of water anyway so filling to max usually results in better shot quality.

Can you anons recommend filters for the French press?

>>13292139
t. guy who buys his coffee at the supermarket

Made myself a nice v60 with some beans from Nicaragua, whatchu guys drinking?

>>13295616
Made a nice V60 with beans from Honduras.

Add one square of 90% chocolate to a cup.
Add hot water to melt choc.
Make Moka pot coffee and add to the choc water.
Add sweetened condensed milk.
Stir.
Holy fuck, why does it taste so good?

Should I try french press or bialetti next?

The preparation methods I've tried so far are aeropress, v60 and espresso machine. I never managed to dial truly good espresso because of shitty equipment, so I usually preferred aeropress or v60. I think aeropress a little more than v60 since I prefer low acidity full bodied coffee. I know fp/mokka are both are both pretty full bodied, but how do they differ?

>>13295793
Moka pots use percolation and pressure to extract, sort of like espresso. French press is an immersion brewer. They both have metal filters so you'll be getting more of the oils and acid coming through. Moka can be more finicky, French press is harder to bungle up.
>>13293432
I use mine daily. I've gone through some o-rings and a little bit of molykote, but I've never had a failure that took more effort to fix than I had time for in the morning before I had to leave.
>>13293914
This is exactly right. Sometimes I'll fill it to the top and let it pre-infuse without pressure and then I'll add more water back off the boil straight to the top. It doesn't hold more water than you'll need to brew a double lungo but it doesn't really need to. There's enough room under the legs for one of those square drug scales with the part that clicks out on the side.

Is a Baratza Encore a good investment or is there a better electric burr grinder in that price range? Mostly looking for a grinder for French press and v60 coffee

>>13296027
it's fine. not a whole lot of competition at that price point

>>13296027
Graef CM800/802 is quite a bit better but might not be available where you're from. It's pretty common in Europe.

>>13257082
that's some nice kit. how's the build quality on the Decent? you think it's something that would last 10+ years?

coffee time boys

>San Fran coffeefest
>Lots of indie brewers / roasts
>Bought from a group called Ritual
>Thought it was from Turkey based on the symbol
>Turns out it's based on communist revolutionaries

Lol'd at that. But politics aside the beans make for a rather tasty french press

>>13251924
>It's the one thing other than breathing that I've done every day of my life for the last 5 years.
what about brushing teeth

why do white girls insist on buying flavored coffee?

its fucking disgusting

>>13296712
You mean latte with syrup in it?

>>13296712
To be fair sometimes you just want to enjoyed a basic bitch flavored coffee. Its like choosing a mix drink over a shot. Scratch made syrups with decent coffee can be nice.

Recently bought some lighter roasted Burundi beans. How fine do I need to go for espresso? I’ve tried stepping down the fineness quite a bit and using a little less as a result but every shot I pull is still pretty sour.

>>13249440
Just use a chemex, it tastes better anyway.

>>13247403
it is

>>13262632

>>13273019
>drinks Cezve
>no lokum or a cup of white jam

>>13253006
Whatever you do, make sure you get a stainless steel one.Aluminium cubans are cheap chink-shit and tend to leek

>>13289728

how is brcc? is it any good or does it just get sold based entirely on the meme? A boatload of prepper types have a hard on for it, and I see it at gun shops I think one can imagine why I'd have reservations about the whole thing.

Coffee nap?
https://youtu.be/CaI5LWj6ams
>>13300079
Oh, this is a rare coffee frog.

Watched some hot chocolate videos and was bored. Moka pot coffee, cocoa powder, sugar, pumpkin spice, chipotle pepper, vanilla extract, half&half, and water to dilute. Tastes pretty good. Has a nice savory bit to it.

>>13301153
looks good!

>>13300603
To be completely honest and transparent with you we started off on the wrong foot imo. At first all the coffee was outsourced and the company was 90% marketing. Now we have it all in-house and Evan is traveling to cup new coffees for our monthly micro lot. If you order from our coffee club you get fresh coffee. If you order from Amazon you get our weeks-old overage. Another recent improvement is nitrogen in the bags for freshness. Most of the green beans we use are washed Colombian excelso arabica, but we have natural process Brazilian arabica, Single origin Honduran and Costa Rican, and Vietnamese robusta. Coffee Saves, AR Holiday, Silencer, Gunship, Just Black, Fit Fuel, CAF, AK, Beyond Black, Blackbeard, and Murdered Out are the only unique roasts we do in house. The rest is just funnybags with one of those inside. Flavored ones are outsourced.

>>13289728
Bag design is kino but I don't trust Vietnam because they only produce robusta

>>13302286
It is arabica my dude. Post your email and if I have extra bags I'll be in touch and send you one. I think I have some extras of our honey processed Peruvian I might be able to snag too.

My coffee tastes bitter. I suspect it's the water or the temperature of the machine. Has anyone tried using a deionising water filter for their coffee? Has it helped?

And is there a way to stop your espresso machine from burning your coffee?

>>13302400
>Post your email

>>13302400
g'day officer

>>13303186
>what is sharklasers
Do y'all not have 5 throwaway Gmail accounts?
I was gonna mail you coffee on my dime but fuck you I guess.
>>13303238
I despise law enforcement

>>13303823
heres my throwaway email then

yalod41765@imailt.com

>>13303823
>hate lawful stupids
Same

Bumps

Bomp

>>13304587
>>13305349
Please stop bumping this thread, just let it die.

>>13305848
Thanks for the bump

Some flair poorfag on plebbit made a steamer out of $10 chinese pressure cooker and some (hopefully food safe) spare parts. How desperate for steamed milk do you have to be to use an IED with a random detonator to steam your milk?

>>13247180
Pretty fucking good and I haven't run out for like 2 months and I'm a caffeine junky

>>13305949
pic related

>>13306523
forgot to comment. im dickered
Its gonna be percolated nabob for me

>>13301172
Thank you. Made peppermint moka today for minter. Peppermint oil, sugar, cocoa powder, vanilla extract, and smidge of half&half. I think I'm going to make a faux macchiato with the ready whip I still have.

>>13247180
Iced vanilla Chai from Dunkin

>>13247180
Decaf breakfast coffee from DG poured over milk, dash of Splenda, add ice

>>13247180
McDonald's started making a great Macchiato

should i get this or is $12 too much to spend on coffee?

>>13307777
get a french press bruv

>>13307815
this one comes with free tech support if i cant figure out how to operate the machine though

>>13307841
u literally just push down with a french press

>>13307777
$12 isn't too much for a good product but those electric coffee pots suck. They're worse than a Keurig.
Listen to the other anon and get a French press.

>>13307861
How do you not recognize the very concept of utilizing free tech support on a coffee pot as shitposting?

>>13307815
>>13307861
>>13307875
Fr*nch press is shit, get a V60 or something

>>13308187
Pourover is too fussy.

>>13303823
>I, anonymous /ck/ poster, am actually CEO of Conservitard Coffee Co. so please give me your email, home address, home and/or work phone, SSN, mother's maiden name, driver's license number, blood type, and recent STD screening and I will send you a bag of Vietnam coffee

>>13308197
Only if you're a literal retard. Scott Rao's method uses two fucking pours. Are you actually incapable of pouring water into a cone? If you really are handicapped, then by all means, have your handler get you a French press instead.

>>13308213
>too pours
Already too fussy, and I'm still not subscribing to your faggot youtube channel Scott.

this is all so complicated i think im just gonna order a cup on uber eats every morning

>>13308203
I asked for a throwaway email and a secure address to which I may send a free bag of coffee. Please go back to /pol/ and stop shitposting in our thread.

>>13247180
where my Turkish coffee niggas at?

Let’s see your autismo kits
>Managed to cop an EKG+ for $80
>Managed to cop an acaia pearl S for $100
>Distilled Water cause my local tap is utter shit
>Lido ET

>>13289447
It's like Starbucks. Just because they're everywhere doesn't mean that it's good.

Moka pot got accidentally put through a dish washer and now the top is oxidized, still fine to make coffee in right lads? Can't find anything about aluminum poisoning

>>13309721
When mine got oxidized the pressure wouldnt keep anymore and it makes anything that touched it taste like pennies

I want to make good espresso for once. Does anyone have some advice or tutorials they can share with me?

>coffee chain spends millions on expensive equipment
>doesn't even train the "baristas" on how to make coffee or properly usr equipment
>equipment breaks
Why is management so fucking dumb?

>>13309761
I can. Can you tell me what you’ve tried and what went wrong so I have a starting point for helping you?

Kinu-kun where are you? My Kinu recently shifted a ton in settings, after using 2.4 for coffee for weeks it shifted to ~2.6 for the same (freshly roasted) beans. This has now been consistent between cleanings and different beans. Is this normal or did something happen?

>>13310007
Nepotism

>>13310112
Probably normal drift as the burrs roll over and break in. Probably time for you to take it apart and clean. When you're reassembling, make sure you compress the spring and zero yourself back out.

>>13310851
You tell him, anon! The only reason your genius isn't being recognized is because you don't know the right people. Millenials were right all along!

>>13310909
Really pulling at strings for this one arnt cha?

my scale broke and i'm trying to cope by measuring with tablespoons and using an aeropress since it doesnt require as much precision as v60. first brew was sour underextracted garbage. fuck i hope my new scale gets here soon

>>13310007
my favorite part is how inconsistent chain coffee places are at steaming milk, foam quantity and quality. it's like they don't even attempt to train people on how to use the steam wand. i love when i get a cappucino in a cup that's 50% foam

>>13311103
Yeah, I worked part-time as a barista and was promised a barista education. I had four practice shifts before starting to work (alone in the shop as I mainly worked opening and closing), they didn't bother making sure I knew how to skim milk or anything really. And the promised barista education was 8 hours of powerpoint and a simple test that you couldn't fail unless you intended to. Worst thing is that every shop manager has to use their own budget to pay for the education so most employees went months before getting it. Utter fucking shit show due to management being retards constantly introducing new products and campaigns while the employees are shat upon and blamed for everything.

>>13311263
Hmmm Stumptown? Or Intelligentsia

>>13311677
Espresso House, it's Swedish but has spread to Norway, Denmark, Germany and Finland.

>>13309627
>distilled water
nigger what the fuck are you doing

>>13311823
Oh god Espresso House, this explains so much about the quality of their espresso.

>>13310899
Thanks anon. I’ve reassembled it a few times and always make sure I’m compressing the springs, it’s been pretty consistent since the drift. When I’m zeroed out now, the burrs feel like they’re touching (more resistance turning) when they didn’t before, so I had a feeling the spring or something had just settled.

>>13312556
>he doesn’t use third wave water
ok norman

>>13313082
It's a shame really, their coffee beans are really good thanks to their purchase of the roasters Johan & Nyström. All that speciality coffee is wasted due to lack of proper baristas, but then again the customers are almost exclusively mouth breathing subhumans.

>>13313121
Adding that I still have the employee discount half a year after quitting, I can get 250g of excellent speciality coffee for $2.5 and the more expensive beans for $5. Fucking managment can kys.

>>13313091
I mix my own water because TWW is shit that uses fucking citric acid instead of a carbonate buffer

>>13313121
>>13313167
Why would they bother preparing good quality coffee in such a shitty manner when you could go the Starbucks route and prepare shitty coffee in a shitty manner and make way more profit? Are they stupid?

>>13251633
Based

>>13313186
>citric acid

Do you mean Calcium Citrate?

The espresso mix uses KHCO3 as the buffer

Today I ordered a mocha mexicano and it was good.

>>13313815
mexican diarrhea?

>decide to expand my horizons
>try tons of different beans
>try french press, aeropress, softbrew, percolator. etc
>still prefer folgers instant crystals

>love coffee
>it gives me instant diarrhea
life truly is suffering

>>13314225
how does one achieve this power?

>>13253851
Aww it’s so cute

>>13253837
You measure coffee by weight because it’s more accurate than volume. For example different grind sizes have different weights for the same amount of volume. And different beans have different weights even though they’re the same size. For example, dark roasts are less dense than light roast coffees. So if you find a coffee:water recipe you really like with one bean, if you try it with beans that have a different density, you have no idea how many tablespoons to use and must start the trial and error process to stumble your way into a good cup of coffee.

And you measure water in weight because it’s more convenient than volume (like how the fuck would you do a pour over using meat using cups without losing huge amounts of time and water temperature?) and you’re already using a scale to weight the coffee beans so why the fuck not. Weigh out X grams of coffee, chuck it in a v60, put the v60 on the scale, tare it, and pour in X grams of water. The reason I’m using grams is because one milliliter of water weighs one gram. So 500 grams of water equals half a liter.

By the way I like to use a ratio of 60 grams of coffee per liter of water for pour overs, and 75 grams of coffee per liter for immersion brews like French press or Aeropress or whatever. But the actual ratio of coffee to water is ultimately a matter of personal taste; it’s about how strong you like your coffee.

Any suggestions for low-acid coffee that doesn't require cold brewing? My stomach hates everything but I can't resist delicious coffee flavor.

>>13262593
This desu

>>13313422
>are they stupid
The answer will always be yes.

Bump

Soon....

So I finally got a scale. What ratios do you guys like to use? I was going to try 19 grams of coffee to 250 grams of water for an aeropress brew. Hows that sound?

>>13314532
darker roasts have less acid

>>13317377
Faux macchiato made with the last bit of ready whip and dusting of cocoa powder. I regret the cocoa powder.

>>13317412
I use 8g grounds per 100g water. Sometimes I remove two grams for a weaker yet tastier brew.

>>13251633
but can't I do both?

>>13314225
you should just go for a shartwalk with your morning coffee then. walmart tends to be the favorite location for a brisk shartwalk but you can do it anywhere really!

>>13253006
I got a 3-cup bialetti. Way better than my roommate's shitty chineseum one I used in college. The no-drip spout actually doesn't drip, which seems to be a luxury on nearly everything cooking related these days. Plus it was only like $25.

>>13318000
This is why I never understand why people will suggest off-brand Moka pots. The knock-offs are barely any cheaper and Bialetti makes the nicest quality ones by a significant margin.

>>13301153
What ratios did you use? I just got some hot coco mix and was thinking of tying to mix it with coffee.

>>13318610
Not really any ratio. I used cheap luckys brand cocoa powder which is more, "sticky" compared to giradeile. I think I used like 2 tsp raw cocoa powder for 9 oz liquid. If you have a premix its already going to have sugar and possibly more mixed in with the cocoa powder as well.

My advice is to use a little less than you think you need. Also mix in the cocoa powder with just around 1/3 of water. Its easier to mix and prevents clumps. Also know if you put in too much you end up with a gross powdery tasting mess.

just ordered on of these bad boys

>>13247180
I drink three-dollar cans of Doubleshot, mocha (2/$5). I just recently got into coffee after years of being a contrarian about black coffee. I wanna break away from Starbucks for political reasons but I also can't be asked to prepare my own coffee (constraints).
Doubleshot really helps me focus on my work (erotic literature), I love it.

>>13262593
Have you tried the aergrind? Is it any good? I mean kinu looks nice but 200 for the cheapest one is a little steep

>>13271788
That info is pretty wrong anyways. Most brews with the v60 recommend a flatbed for even extraction

>>13313805
No, I mean citric acid. Because the citric acid that forms on mixing is what stands in for buffer the same way HCO3 works as a buffer in sane water mixes. Think of the final result, not just the powder.

Pointless bump