/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13013288
youre in the wrong

>>13013288
I'm going to fuck your wife and buy her a stand mixer since her husband couldn't buy one with a week's wages

i bake all the time and never use one, its another boomer meme "convenience" tool the winds up making just as much work cleaning monitoring and setting it up as it does saving work on making the actual product
but if this shit is breaking up your marriage then there are serious red flags not being addressed, most important of which being that your wife doesn't respect you

>>13013288
I got one of these for free. It's alright, I did fine without it and probably wouldn't have one if I had to pay for it myself.

Tell her that baking every week will make you both gross and fat.

>>13013295
Can you kindly explain? It’s really not in my nature to be petty over such a small thing and I really wish I could just bend over and get her a fucking stand mixer but unfortunately we aren’t really discussing the merits of the appliance anymore but more of the governance of finances in a happy marriage. I really am a reasonable person - it does seem silly that a Kitchenaid happens to draw the battle lines.

>>13013288
Let your wife get a mixer if she wants one you turd. You're lucky she'd want to be with an asshole like you.

>>13013320
i use mine at least 5 times a week and multiple times for most recipes. its like $300, make your wife happy.

>>13013288
buy a stand mixer at goodwill or value village and just clean it up. tell her a friend sold it to you for cheap and they only used it 4 times

Buy it and bring it up every fucking time she mouths off.

>>13013295
>in the wrong

I hate this phrase so fucking much.

Anyway OP stand mixers are kind of overrated imo unless you do a LOT of baking. Like the argument that she doesn’t bake a lot because she doesn’t have one is bs to me. Mixers are very convenient but you can do anything a mixer can do by hand and if you aren’t baking regularly already you won’t start just because of a mixer.

>>13013320
Honestly it sounds like this is about a lot more than the stand mixer.

>>13013288
for me, it's the bosch compact, the thinking man's mixer.

If she makes breads or other heavily kneaded things more than once a month, I would say its probably not only worth it, but required. None of my bread ever got to exactly the right consistency before I got a good mixer.

That's literally the only time its worth breaking out, though. Any other general mixing scenario is just easier to do by hand.

>>13013359
Looks like a flimsy piece of shit

>>13013288
my sister got one of these for christmas three years ago. it literally just wastes counter space and i don't think she's used it in two years. If I tried to put it away she'd probably through a fit though

>>13013364
Its even more cringe when people contrive to use it, though. Even "pro" bakers on youtube who mix literally everything from cake to cookie batter in these industrial monsters for some dame reason. You'd have to be 80 years old to need a stand mixer to whisk a cake batter together, for fuck sake its easy to overmix as it is even by folding.

Bread, Candy, Whipped Cream, and Meringue are the only acceptable reason to use a kitchen aid mixer.

>>13013359
>bosch makes mixers
lmao what

>>13013320

You're absolutely wrong. I've made $300 in bread alone in mine not counting all the pasta etc.

>>13013374
What about peetzer dough?

>>13013388
Arent you supposed to do that shit by hand? I don't make pizza.

>>13013391
Stand mixer makes it way easier

>>13013288
>letting your partner veto personal spending
stupid ass way to run a relationship. You are both adults. Put aside money for bills/savings/necessities. Split the rest between you and your partner. If she wants to burn her share of the excess in front of you it doesn't fucking matter. Let her make her own decisions, bad or good. Just because you combine incomes doesn't mean you should be making every spending decision together.

at least your wife is cooking you faggot. she is literally attempting to do her one job in a better manner.

>>13013465
Only for large batches. If you are making one or two pizzas it doesn't even really save time.

Oh, BTW if you want a good generic white bread recipe use the allrecipes white bread. Proof the shit out of it, then bake it for 40 minutes not 30. For a real crust. But make sure to proof the living shit out of it so it's light.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/20066/traditional-white-bread/

>>13013320
I dunno bro, you write in a style that puts you on a pedestal. I bet you're real selfish and impulsive with your purchases and real critical of the purchases of everyone else.

>>13013501

oh and use the heart attachment on the dough, then the hook.

>>13013504

Sound like you're calling him a NPD with domination obsessed rape fantasies.

>>13013288
Jesus christ, Anon. Look at >>13013305
>if this shit is breaking up your marriage then there are serious red flags not being addressed, most important of which being that your wife doesn't respect you
He's right. It's not just the stand mixer. From her perspective, she might trying to be a good wife and be helpful around the house. Even though you might be logically right, you come across as punishing her for trying to be a good wife. That makes you look like an autistic retard.
Right now, you painted yourself into a corner. If you try to be a hardass, you'll look an asshole and she'll leave crying about your control issues. If you look like a wimp, you'll send the message that nagging is effective, and she'll nag you into a sexless marriage until one of you cheats. So what do you do?
>to which I countered by bringing up all the things I wanted to buy that were vetoed by her
This is the root of the issue. Address it. Your relationship is built on conflict right now. You escalated the conflict when it never needed to be, and clearly neither of you learned to plan a budget for your marriage. You need to either fix that or accept that divorce is inevitable.
How will you fix this? Lift, get your self respect back. Learn to frame issues as about "us" and make her feel good. Women love that shit. Ask her if you two can use it to make bread at home instead of paying out the ass for it at the store. Don't pretend you aren't buying fancy bread if you're looking to buy an expensive stand mixer.
Consider how she views baking. Does she do it to relax, or to socialize with other women by giving gifts? To show love to her family? If its any of these, in her mind you've been telling her you don't care about her wellbeing, even if the stand mixer may logically be waste of money at first glance. Also, do you have kids?
>>13013391
Because you don't have a stand mixer. :^)

>>13013547

He's an alcoholic or a failure in other ways. No point in talking to him. And yes, a stand mixer makes better pizza dough, but you HAVE to let it rest in the fridge for a day or it's shit.

A stand mixer is a big help if you need more versatility than an electric hand mixer with decent torque.
You can be all
>hurr durr make everything by hand
But spending 50 minutes with a double loaf of brioche dough and palming that fucker out is a lot of work that I don't have to do when I can stick a hook in the stand mixer and walk away.

>>13013563

8 minutes on the heart, 7 on the hook and then I cut it into loaves.

>>13013547
>she might trying to be a good wife and be helpful around the house. Even though you might be logically right, you come across as punishing her for trying to be a good wife.
This assumption is based on what, exactly? If that were the case she could do a lot of baking already. It’s just as likely she wants one because her friend has one. Or because she watches too many TASTY videos on Facebook but never actually bakes anything.

>>13013569
How much butter are you using for a loaf?
If I'm doing a ghetto recipe then it takes like 15 minutes but as soon as you're talking 2 cups of butter per pan just getting it well integrated takes 10 minutes.

>>13013335
Are the parts and attachments compatible for models from different years? How much work is it to clean up decades old ones from garage sales?

>>13013563
The question isn’t whether or not a stand mixer is indispensable for certain tasks(which it is), the question is whether or not the cost a space is justifiable for a novice who rarely bakes.

>>13013576

I'm using the all recipes ghetto recipe. Mixing isn't the issue, Proofing is the issue.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/20066/traditional-white-bread/

That with long proofing makes light white bread. It's not fancy, it's just good.

>>13013583

After baking for 40 minutes you can cut 5mm slices that are perfect white bread.

>>13013288
>get her the stand mixer
>get her the meat grinder attachment
>get your pecker sucked
>tell her to make you a hamburger from scratch
fucking donkey

>>13013587
Can you do it by hand? If you do it every couple of months is it worth it to spend hundreds of dollars and lots of space in your kitchen for an appliance to do that?

>>13013591

Only gaping assholes buy kitchenaid attachments.

>>13013591
>spend $500 on a kitchen aid and attachments
>it collects dust
>she starts telling you about when spending a few hundred dollars on essential oils is a good investment

>>13013592

Welp, we need to do away with sinks I guess. Get your fucking bucket. How do dumb cunts like you progress through life?

>>13013583
Think of her like a kid. You see your kid has an interest and you buy them better tools to foster that interest. A better bike. Pencil set. Breadboard. Whatever.
If you think she'll bake more if you buy it just buy it.
>>13013585
No anonymous I'm making brioche. I make low hydration sourdough at least once a week because I'm too jewish to throw starter away and that's easy as hell without a mixer.

>>13013599

So you're with a boring cunt. That's your fault. Fucking grow up for one day.

I can honestly say there are a lot of things I'd do more if it took less effort to do them. Like baking! Get the mixer.

>>13013603
By being able to make logical decisions and not become histrionic when someone disagrees with me.

>>13013607

You sound like my dumb cunt aunt with her "starter" the only starter worth a shit would be from Les Halles. Not like you'd know what that is. Also, for your information, the only good starter is made from san francisco. Because of the yeast bugs.

>>13013583
Just a wild guess, anon....
>you either are not legally married to her, or you aren't raising kids yet
Which one is it?

>>13013550
You don't know shit about dough or fermentation lol.

>>13013574
Ask her what she wants to bake. If it's not bread meet her halfway and get her one of those handheld electric mixers.

>>13013614

You poor thing, did you get abused?

>>13013620

Well, I'm currently making 150 liters of vodka using bakers yeast (SAF) so I do know about fermentation and dough.

>>13013607
The thing about kids is 9/10 they dive headfirst into something and are convinced it’s their passion and drop it a couple of weeks later and move on to the next thing.

>>13013616
Who are you quoting?

>>13013627

Kids end up as adults and adults suck just as much. My entire family can't cook for shit. And they PROFESS that they can. So. Get used to old people who can't cook.

>>13013614
>to which I countered by bringing up all the things I wanted to buy that were vetoed by her
Dunno mate, keeping score like this seems like you're being pretty overdramatic.

>>13013615
>Because of the yeast bugs
You mean the bacteria surely, retarded flex attempt anon?

>>13013633
If I use quotation marks, I'm quoting. I used the > to highlight the text in green. Been here since 05 doing it this way.

>>13013640

Yeah asshole.

>>13013640

Sorry, you were just an utterly stupid cunt child. Look up yeast attenuation and temperature. It dies slowly based on the temperature and the Saccharomyces Cerevisiae type.

>>13013639
Probably. I don’t know, I wasn’t there.

>>13013651
That's not how you write scientific names. Stop trying so hard nigga.

>>13013651
>google random shit to sound "smart"
>actually even stupider than your last post
Good luck making sourdough with brewers yeast.

>>13013641
I was legitimately confused because I’m not OP

>>13013660

I know you're probably 13 years old, but this graph will matter to brewers and distillers.

>>13013672
Brewer’s yeast is a different strain from baker’s yeast.

>>13013661

I have dried sourdough in my closet I'll never use from Vancouver. My dumb cunt Aunt loves it, but it isn't better. I make better bread in my ceramic.

You're just giving me a forum for my food.

>>13013574
>It’s just as likely she wants one because her friend has one
>Or because she watches too many TASTY videos on Facebook
These are exactly my point: in her mind, she may feel a need to have a stand mixer as a symbol to help her fit in. Many women tend to use social approval of image as a way to gauge success and morality. How something makes someone feel ends up being the basis of their realities, and the entire advertising and fashion industries depend on this. I've seen women do complicated baking because it let them socialize and fit in, or even compete with one another for status. Church bake sales, instagram, etc. They do it because it provides social approval, not because its practical.
Yes, this stand mixer might be like people getting a Planet Fitness membership because they were scared of weights and getting "bulky". Yes, those same people stop going because their approach doesn't get results.
But OP could use this all to his advantage instead of trying to fight a force of nature and ruining his marriage. What if he encouraged her interest in baking like a guy getting his gf into lifting? Start off with "Do you want to bake more?", and don't say shit she'll see as a personal attack. If he does that, he could end up with cheap fresh bread instead of a pissed off wife and maybe not even end up buying the stand mixer anyway if she learns to work with her hands.

>>13013679

No shit you're talking about 1811? That just means it lives past 14%, it goes to 18% for assholes making wine. people making vodka don't care.

>>13013682
That's nice. But it isn't sourdough by definition.
Throw your bread away and just make a nice ale.

>>13013288
Those things are expensive as fuck where I live and they take up a shitload of space. Can't she just make you buy her a necklace like a normal person?
If you do end up giving in, and of course you do, get the grinder attachment and make some righteous homemade sausages. That's the good stuff.

>>13013688

beer is goddamn garbage. it's what you drink in college. I haven't tasted a good beer in 25 years. Last was a red IPA at a bar watching Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings.

>>13013688

You're what? 24? Get your shit together before you open your mouth.

>>13013685
No one serious about bread making will work with their hands unless it’s on video to teach, and this is specifically for people who don’t have stand mixers. If she actually gets into breadmaking they will end up with a mixer, much like how a serious woodworker winds up with a band saw. You can argue it’s not necessary but it sure saves a lot of time and effort.

>>13013359
how do bosch mixers compare to kitchenaid?

>>13013607
i've never made sourdough before, how bad does it keeping a starter stink things up?

>>13013591
>>13013689
based and grinderpilled

>>13013715

I have a lot of bubinga in my garage I need to make into an instrument.

>>13013715
>No one serious about bread making will work with their hands
The question is whether she's serious about baking. Redirecting her attention while still encouraging her to bake lets him avoid buying the stand mixer if she loses interest, and without starting a pointless argument. It's like seeing if a kid is really interested in something before shelling out for top-tier equipment. See >>13013607 and >>13013627

>>13013732
I’m responding to the comment about getting cheap bread without getting a mixer if she learns to work with her hands. Not gonna happen.

1. It is a waste of money.
2. It's completely, absolutely, 100% futile to convince your spouse of this fact.
3. Just buy the fucking mixer.

>>13013734
Ok, but how much bread do you eat a week, and how much do OP and his wife eat? I got by making two large loaves every week, kneading by hand. It was good stress relief and helped work the soreness out of my arms after upper body day. I never ate enough to make a mixer worth it. A mixer might not be worth it for them either, depending on how much they eat and how interested she is in baking.

>>13013718
Kenwood > kitchenaid
I use KMix and it's been great.

>>13013501
Proofing is a meme. It never ever works.

If you're going to buy your wife a kitchen mixer remember don't cheap out.

>>13013753
We don't care about your personal life. You're just some anon.

>>13014027
>t. bakelet

>>13014024
seems expensive. is the quality that much better?
>>13014037
you're missing the point. my life is just an example of how some people might get value from working with their hands and how "worth it" depends on how much bread they eat.

>>13013288
does she lack arms by any chance? if so, she's fucking right and you're the asshole. if not, she's a ho.

just get a used one from a thrift shop or smth and watch her get rekt when she won't bake shit. when i bake i actually like making everything myself.

>>13013626
I've got a yard full of dirt, call me a gardener.

>>13013626
Wont your yeast die at like 5-10%?

>>13013320
In the grand scheme of things $300 isn't even that much for a frivolous purchase, but she wants to use it for something that will make you both happy. Stop being such a colossal faggot, buy the fucking mixer and address the obviously deeper lying issues in your marriage that certainly won't be getting better as time goes by.

>>13013288
>waste of money
It's like a hundred bucks, who cares.

>>13013288
I have one and its pretty useful. Bought it more as a staple of affluence in the kitchen mostly. Brushed nickel just like my vitamix. If you looove cooking and baking like i do and you get the attachments for making pasta and ground beef etc its not such a waste. I think i spent 180 on mine because it was on sale for some reason like rocktober or toyotathon.

>>13013288
does she not work or...?

>>13013374
Part of the appeal for Kitchenaid is the attachments. I use the meat grinder and pasta roller fairly frequently, and sometimes bust out another random one

>>13014435
How well does the meat grinder work? I've been thinking about picking one up.

The meat grinder and ice cream maker are convenient. Of course you need to make cakes for many occasions.

Tho if you do get a stand mixer that encourages making wheat bread which is unhealthy so maybe thats bad.

>>13013621
This, my wife bakes tasty fancy shit like ladyfingers, choux, madeleines, etc all the time but has just been using a 20 dollar hand mixer from target for years. Just get her a gay looking colored one and tell her that you'll get a stand one if baking ends up fun for her. Then never do it because she's likely so retarded that she'll end up burning chocolate chip cookies once and moving onto the next Pinterest hobby. Easy 150 bucks (minimum) saved.

a stand mixer is actually quite useful

particularly if you start cooking for a family or family event

i personally dont own one but will once those dank 30-40% holiday discounts come thru

maybe you can compromise and ask her to wait for pricing relief

>>13013288
Anyone know why these cost almost twice as much in some parts of Europe?

Some of the bigger models go for around 1000$ here, how does that happen?

>>13013288
>my wife argues she needs a stand mixer

buy her one and then refuse to buy any bread for the rest of the year for the lulz, since your marriage is obviously not going to make it anyway.

>>13013288
Its good if you like to make homemade pizza or bread or sweet desserts like creme brule. But I have one, and stopped making so much bread and stuff, and lost 10 pounds. It's sits in the box.

>>13013288
>bringing up all the things I wanted to buy that were vetoed by her

Fifty bucks says they're mostly video game related.

>>13014568
Tariffs

>>13013288
Buy a cheap biolmix stand mixer from ali express if she uses that enough and then the motor burns out buy a proper stand mixer.

>>13013288
Just fucking cheat on her, you cuck.

It sounds like its about time you took her out for a little car ride.

Put your dick in her new blender you fucking cuck. I said that right? right? You tards all love to call people kid names.

imagine having a bond so fragile it's being destroyed by 60 dollars used on craigslist

seems like everyone gave you the wrong answer

a kitchen aid stand mixer is like a "fancy thing"

it's like having an iphone its something a girl says to her bitch friends
the mixer is not the thing it's the thing
it will make sense

>>13014337
All yeast dies at a certain percent alcohol. Alcohol and CO2 are yeast waste products. Specialty brewing yeast can get to something like 18% before dying, and often taste like shit. He's going to have to distill the product after the fermentation.

>>13013320
I'm not going to do as these cucks insult you and say you're wrong. Sounds like you have valid points.

That being said, you're missing a chance here. Say she can have the mixer of you can have one of the things she vetoed you getting. If she agrees, you get something and she gets it. If she says no, then you're not the bad guy because it was her choice to not let you both get something you each wanted.

And then if she gets it and never uses it, you start using the mixer all the time and rub it in her face.

>>13014081

I can't help these idiots. I've been baking for 15 years and these fucking people don't get yeast but they bitch about yeast. FUck em. FUck ever last one of them

>>13013288
Stand mixers are extremely useful. They dont have to be for baking. They can mash potatoes, whip butter/cream, etc. Sorry to hear your struggle. Seriously consider the mixer, even as expensive as it is.

Also, why not buy it for her? Even if she never uses it, that's a reason for you to be able to buy something you want

>>13013577
Yes. And most of the attachments are junk anyway.

Additionally, kitchenaid stand mixers used to be made by Hobart. Hobart, if you are not familiar with then, makes high quality restaurant grade equipment. At some point Hobart sold the brand to whirlpool or some shit like this. Anyway, modern kitchen aid mixers are total trash. Look for an old 1960s era model. Maybe buy a tub of grease and lube up the gears. There’s a lot of tutorials online about refurbishing old stand mixers. I got mine for $25 and $10 more in parts. It’s got more balls than the current high end Kitchen Aid Pro line.

Sorry to say but you lost the moment she decided she wanted one. Women get obsessed with their little trinkets, their social currency. She saw others with it, or a cute little video/instagram post and she knew she “needed” it.

You might be able to postpone it by having a well reasoned logical discussion, then she’ll bring it up again completely ignoring that she agreed it wasn’t worth it earlier. Maybe you’ll get lucky and convince her again that she doesn’t need it or an appeal to her frugality will overwhelm her obsession...but then the next time you have a completely unrelated argument she’ll bring up the item and throw it back in your face. She’ll spin the earlier discussions as brutal arguments that cruelly crushed her hopes. You are retroactively an almost cartoonish villain now. You’ll make up and she’ll drop it again but the next time she brings it up it’ll already be a sore subject and you’ll be expected to capitulate this time.

Then you’ll buy it and she’ll use it 3 or 4 times before she quietly puts it away because it was too much effort for something she never really cared for in the first place...and, besides, one of her friends just went to Miami for a long weekend. “How come we haven’t been on a trip recently” she casually brings up as you’re nodding off to sleep one night.

$300 is not worth the trouble. There is a benefit to giving in, you get to spend money on yourself no questions asked. I buy what I want and my wife buys what she wants and we don’t acknowledge each other’s frivolous purchases. If you give in but don’t get the same treatment then feel free to keep arguing though. I only advocate equal footing in these scenarios.

>>13013491
When you're married, there's no real personal spending unless you make enough money to waste

>>13013288
Either get a cheap used one off Craigslist/Kijiji/whatever, or get one from Walmart and return it within the 90 day return policy if she doesn't use it. Simple. You two need to compromise more rather than straight up veto each other's shit. Stand mixers are very versatile and not just for baked goods. It's like the difference between a good blender and a nutribullet. Who knows, maybe you'll find it useful yourself.

You are the first post I've ever seen here where the wife is right and the man is wrong. Bravo.

Yes it is worth the cost. Yes it is very useful.

>>13013295
Hello r/relationships

Well she'll probably bake unhealthy cakes and cookies with it anyway, so you shouldn't buy it.

bread dough can be kneaded by hand or use the no-knead method.

>>13015116
>unless you make enough money to waste
Don't get married if you don't.

>>13013694
sad

>>13013288
Simple solution is to buy her one. Let her bake a couple of things. Have sex. She will get tired of it. You use it a couple of times and shame her for not using it and for wasting money. Sell the fucking thing second hand. Simple as.

>>13013288
Does your wife cook at all? if so, what does she cook?

>>13013288
Go to a salvation army or buy one second hand. Don't buy one brand new.. You already know its a waste of money

Why would you get a kitchenaid? Get an entry/mid-range kenwood or something.

Plenty of perfectly good reasons to have a standmixer.

>>13013591
i can confirm this post
OP should start thinking with his dick for once instead of his wallet and he will have a better hold on his woman

>>13015388
this. she wants a handmixer but kitchenaid isnt the only thing. you could get her a cheaper one or get her an even more expensive one and get your dick sucked more

>>13013288
I don't bake enough to justify a full retail price kitchen aid stand mixer, so right now I just use a hand mixer. But I did start considering getting one after trying to make pasta dough and a few other things by hand. Also they have meat grinder attachments. But I have a small kitchen in a small home and no where to put it without over crowding counter or cabinet space. Also I have given away every single other small appliance that for some reason family keeps gifting to me despite my objections. I just don't need a second smaller oven for toasting bread and reheating. Women really like these stand mixers though, and even if they don't use it that much it's kind of a status symbol for house wives. I would see if she is willing to wait for a really good deal around the holidays or whenever. Maybe you can find a gently used on on Craigslist with all the extra attachments for a fraction of the cost and she can have her Kitchen Aid, and you can feel comfortable with the cost.

>>13015435
*and reheating food

>>13013288
The only thing you're getting for your money is durability
If, like you suspect, she's only using it once a week you don't need durability
Buy the cheapest 1kW mixer that comes with the relevant attachments

>>13013358
He knows his wife better than we do. She might be type who wants it more as accessoire for the kitchen to look nice than actual use

I got one on sale for 250 something at costco. She uses it like 5 times a year and asks me to move it on the counter most times. I don’t like it

>>13013288
Sounds to me like you didn’t have a marriage, just like my father.

>>13015091
Not doubting what you’re saying but are most people going to notice the difference between a new machine and and a Hobart model? What is that extra high end power good for?

>>13013288
just give her what will make her happy , you dumb fucker , jesus what is wrong with you ?
she want it because she feels it will make her a better cook , and you are so god damned stupid that you figure this out ?
even if she is wrong ..just let her have it , then you will have a precedence for this shit later..
why are you fuckers so damn stupid ?

>>13016015
you are stupid as fuck also, stop being a petty little shit, and grow the fuck up and stop being a damn child , you wanted that pussy full time so learn to deal with it this is what married life is about it.

>>13016031
bread making, and dough prep

>>13015297
It’s worth nothing if you don’t use it.

>>13016049
If only everyone like you just died then maybe women would be worth a damn

>>13016054
What happens if you use a new machine? They seize up or explode or something?

>>13014467
it's pretty decent i guess, i use if to grind burger and for the ground pork i use for gyoza ( because all the ground pork meat from the supermarket taste like cheap sausage)

just remember to cut the meat in small pieces and semi frozen meat works better for the grinder.

>>13015435
>Women really like these stand mixers though
IT MUST BE THE WORK OF AN ENEMY STAND(mixer)!!!!

>>13016068
get used to being a lonely virgin and an social outcast because that what your life is going to be .
the only way you will get any pussy is to buy it.

>>13016110
I’ve had pussy blowhard asshole.

>>13016070
new machines usually have the plastic gears in them , so they grind themselves up with heavy use.

>>13016112
your right hand does not count as real pussy you stupid little boy.

OP here. I am getting a stand mixer after work and surprise my wife with it. Wish me luck.

>>13016566
F

>>13013288
You can buy them for like $50 at thrift stores.

>>13016114
even with more regular lighter uses they'll round and slip fairly quickly, but those stupid cheap hand mixers with plastic gears will snap their teeth right off

>>13013288
She only wants it for the Pinterest/instagram aesthetic 100%

>>13015375
>>13015164
>Secondhand
Someone's not going to be getting sex.
I have a saying: happy wife, happy life.

>>13016639
I think this would depend on her personality as plenty of women enjoy thrifting. But she probably does want her own shiny and new mixer.
>>13016566
That is a good idea. I get why you felt like it wasn't worth the cost, and it seems like it blew up into a bigger argument than you thought it would. At least it's not a $500 purse that will be out of style in 6 months.

>>13014024
Yeah but can you add a pasta cutter/meat grinder/etc to it?

That seems to be the main attraction of the Kitchen Aid meme machine.


If I ever get hitched I'm totally putting that shit on my registry list. Fuck no I'm not spending money on it though lol

>>13013360
T. Never whipped 12 whites and 12 yolks with sugar

>>13013288
>she doesn't bake because she doesn't have a stand mixer,
that was my problem for 3 years, now I make at least one thing a week

>>13013505
You can save cleaning time by mixing them up first by hand and spoon rather than using the paddle attachment

>>13016566
When she gets tired of it, use it yourself and become a BreadMaster. She will become jealous of you and start more arguments. Then you can suggest buying a second stand mixer for bread, which she will veto. You will get divorced, yet you will have won the argument in the end.

Is this thing actually worth getting over a more aesthetic stand mixer? It looks like such a 90s era piece of crap.

My stand mixer is one of the most used things in my kitchen. Get her it you fucking idiot.

>>13013288
Making a decent bread without one is actually a lot of work, like half an hour of mixing and beating the shit out of a dough blob. Of course, I like cheap homemade bread, so I did it anyways, but I did get a stand mixer recently. 100% worth it.

You are a jackass, and if your marriage is strained by refusing to buy a 200$ appliance, you are the stingiest jew to ever exist (and I say this as a giant penny pincher) or just a raging asshole.

>>13013288
I use mine, like, twice a year. It is a very impractical machine. It weighs like 30 pounds so you can't simply move it to the counter casually. It costs a stupid amount of money, as you know. And most of the things it does are easier to do with conventional mixers or non-powered appliances - like your hands.

Look at the bright side. In a year you can brag about how right you were.

>>13013295
This guy knows relationships.

>>13013288
Bro just set aside a little money from each check a buy her one when you can afford it. If it ends up collecting dust you can justify selling it.

>>13016566
Be sure to lick her asshole graciously next time she vetos one of your purchases, cuck.

>>13017640
You need to lick more asshole before you design your criticisms.

>>13017627
>It weighs like 30 pounds so you can't simply move it to the counter casually
I'm a woman(female) who has never had a problem with its weight or moving it. Get your testosterone levels checked or something.
>It costs a stupid amount of money
If $2-300 for a kitchen appliance that lasts forever is "stupid expensive" to you, your money management issues are the far larger problem.
>And most of the things it does are easier to do with conventional mixers or non-powered appliances - like your hands.
Not if you make bread on a regular basis. My mixer saves me like 20-30 minutes on each batch of bread dough I prepare. Combined with the savings against buying bread in the store, my stand mixer paid itself off within months. Though your inability to think economically is probably why you think that $200 is a huge expense in the first place.

>>13013288
OP you’re in the wrong. It shouldn’t even be an issue. A man is meant to provide and protect

>>13017627
>weighs like 30 pounds so you can't simply move it to the counter casually.
Get a load of this fucking pussy.
Also it doesn't weigh that much. It's like 20lbs max.

>>13017648
>I'm a woman(female) who has never had a problem with its weight or moving it.
Being a she-hulk is not a good thing.
>>13017648
>If $2-300 for a kitchen appliance that lasts forever
Lasts forever? Really? The beaters break down in the fucking dishwasher. They're a garbage allow that isn't dishwasher safe. Do you honestly think the insides are all that much better? It's a meme-machine.
>bread
Who the fuck bakes bread on a regular basis? Even on /ck/, you're talking about less than 1% of people here.

>>13017660
he said 'move casually'. 20-30lbs isn't a casual mover. most women can't lift 35lbs with 1 arm. its heavy enough (also rubber grips on the bottom to keep you from sliding it) to where its not something you want to move everytime you need it

>>13013288
>she counters that she doesn't bake because she doesn't have a stand mixer, to which I countered by bringing up all the things I wanted to buy that were vetoed by her
For what point did you bring that up other than to start an argument?

>>13017651
>in the wrong
I’ve only heard women say This in real life

>>13017671
Check this out

>>13017684
Moved. Took maybe 3 seconds. Pretty fucking casual if you aren't a five year old.

>>13017664
>Being a she-hulk is not a good thing.
Being able to lift a 20 lb appliance is something that every human should be capable of, it's honestly embarrassing if you can't. Male or female. Women are less dainty than you think.
>Who the fuck bakes bread on a regular basis?
People who enjoy baking, saving money, and eating tastier food? If your wife isn't doing her best to make you the tastiest food possible while also economizing in every way she can, she's a bad wife. Or are you just some incel raging that other people have better lives than he does?

>>13013583
>not the cost a space
so where do you people live that the space a mixer takes up is such a huge deal, even more so than the cost of the thing?

>>13017716
I live in an apartment. My kitchen is small and I don’t have a ton of counter space. OP mentioned that space was a consideration.

I wish I had a wife.

>>13016905
Yeah the KMix supports those attachments. You open that silver cover in my pic and plug them in. I don't use any but they are available.

>>13013288
Kill yourself faggot

>>13017664
Holy fuck this is the most brainlet post I've read in awhile.

>>13017779
yet he probably has a toaster sitting on the counter constantly plugged in

>>13017664
at least you have some stats behind your post but they arent the ones you claimed

>>13017696
They’re more dainty than you think, they try to act stronger than they are to cope but even the most inferiority complexed guys could beat the shit out of your average woman.

>>13013465
Handlet spotted.

>>13019414
I'm gonna be honest. You're not wrong. I have bitch hands.

>>13018910
>being able to lift a 20lb object is coping
>comparing moving a fucking kitchen appliance to fighting someone
>being this much of a faggot

>>13018910
Tbf, the average pioneer woman from the 19th century could kick the shit out of 90% of the current male population.

>>13013288
this has to be bait surely no-one is this retarded to manage to get married to a woman without realising that they occasionally make retarded decisions and that you'll never live it down until you give in, and then once you give in and she never uses it that's when you rub it in her face.
if you aren't baiting, next time she brings it up, ask her what she'll give you for it, and then tell her to blow you & swallow, and that if a month goes by and she doesn't bake something using the stand mixer for something good (when you're home to watch her use it) she has to blow you twice a week until she uses it.
this way, you get one of a few things:
1) she refuses to blow you, in which case fuck the stand mixer and your marriage is probably toast anyway, go get a lawyer and divorce her before she does
2) she blows you and keeps blowing you
3) you buy the stand mixer and she uses it, giving you nice food to eat
4) she blows you once, then she refuses to blow you once she stops using it, giving you something to rub in her face, or just make you realise your marriage is a shame and it's over

>>13013288
KitchenAid mixers are a meme, at least over here in Europe.

im sure its a good machine thats sturdy and does its job, but due to "influencers" and heavy overmarketing they sell even the most basic kitchenaid mixers for €500 and up over here.

got my wife a Kenwood Kmix instead

>>13019540
based misogny poster

>>13013288
Compromise
She buys the mixer
You buy a hooker

imagine giving someone else control of your money

>>13013288
I store mine in the garage. Never gets used

>>13013288
to be fair baking is way better when you have a stand mixer because you get consistent products every time

kitchen aids are like 200 dollars so its not exactly expensive, just buy it and shut her the fuck up.

>>13013320
Why doesn't she just buy it?

>>13013547
Holy shit you don't know many women, do you?

>>13013288
>Just thought I'd let you guys know - not looking for counseling or anything.

just buy her the mixer you insufferable cunt

I think that's a reasonable appliance to have. I grew up using one though, we baked all the time.

>>13016639
>I have a saying: happy wife, happy life
Never heard of that before. How'd you come up with that?

Imagine your waifu teaching your children how to make all kinds of foods with that mixer, the little ones right by her side learning valuable life skills. A mixer makes it easier for little weakling babs to make stuff.

>>13013288
Just get her the Kitchen Aide mixer. It's a good appliance. I baked rarely before I had one, then when I got one I used it frequently and baked a good deal more. I've now focused my baking on breads, so I use it much less than I was using it before, but if I had never had it I never would have gotten into baking in the first place, because it makes everything a ton easier/quicker. For cookies, cakes, whipped creams, etc you can't beat it.

And you can get attachments to turn it into a ton of different things (meat grinder, pasta roller, etc).

Just get her the mixer anon.

>>13020313
>I've now focused my baking on breads
I realize I should have specified long-ferment sourdoughs, where kneading is less critical.

>>13018910
The average three year old weighs more than that kitchenaid. Are you arguing that a woman can't carry a three year old?

>>13020728
They pretend not to struggle when they are. I learned this as an autistic grocery bagger

>>13020735
>I learned this as an autistic grocery bagger
That is the saddest citation for anything I have ever seen.

>>13013288
I hope your wife finds a guy that will buy her a stand mixer (a necessary kitchen implement) and sleep with him instead of you

faggot

>>13013288
how poor do you have to be to have an argument like that over a fucking mixer? that's like ruining your relationship over a bad of chips. just fucking buy whatever you want the both of you as long as it's not a Ferrari. just make more money you fucking poorfag or make a 50/50 account just for spending on bullshit then neither of you can complain.

>>13020313
Okay, but why do you need one that costs twice as much as a typical mixer? Do you actually think you're going to break it as an amateur occasional baker?

>No one in the thread mentioning just getting an immersion blender with different attachments for a fraction of the price.

so is the board always this retarded?

>>13020763
The whole point of a stand mixer is so that you don't have to stand there for ten minutes getting sore arms.

>>13015116
>pooling all resources and necessities with your partner for maximum efficiency
>somehow have less disposable income than neets and loners working part time minimum wage

why are married people so bad at finance?

>>13020760
>twice as much as a typical mixer

Cheap stand mixers will fall apart pretty quickly anon.

>>13020779
Women usually spend whatever there is to be spent.

>>13020779
Because women make the decisions or divorce you and take the next guy desperate to replace you

>>13020771
>Cant hold a <5lb appliance up for ten minutes.

>>13013288
Don't give in.
If you give in and she won't use it, like you predicted (and I'm pretty sure you're right about that), then it will be a permanent reminder to her being full of shit, which she'll hate herself for, but project that hate onto you.
If you don't give it, she'll hate you for a while, but she won't hate herself, so it'll pass. And if she wants to end the marriage over a fucking standmixer then you shouldn't want to be with her anyway.
Fuck that dumb standmixer.

>>13020786
the fact the majority of the population doesn't see this makes me feel empty inside

>>13020803
You just need to plan around it. The benefits of having someone to cook and clean for you and that you can sleep with and have children with are substantial.

In the mean time, keep a separate checking/savings/investment/retirement account that she doesn't have access to. Buy a house so that you build equity (that again can't be tapped into to buy frivolous things).

Just plan and you will be fine.

>>13020803
just have effective marriage that isn't state sanctioned. if the government comes asking say you're gay and that it's bigoted to investigate your co-habitation.

>>13020803
Anything but demand of women

>>13013288

Get it. Its part of a professionals tool kit and she wants to feel more like a professional in the kitchen while practicing her hobby, plus its practical benefits.

This isnt something to be obstinate about.

>>13020857
Lol

>>13020857

A professional uses a Hobart, not a Kitchenaid. Decide if she's a welder or a baker.

>>13013288

I just used mine today to mix together Sausage and Ground beef ect for meatballs.

Its true that they can take up some counter space but they are useful for some things.

I most often use mine for making home made pizza dough. I have Pizza stones in my oven and I have a pizza peel and I make all my own fresh pizza at home and its really good.

I also use the extra bread dough for making pork and kimchi filled buns.

Yes they are expensive but they are a BIFL item. They are made very well. I sometimes also use mine to make pasta because I have the Pasta machine addon roller.

Mixers are important for baker and I dont bake at all. But just as a normal cook I do use it for some things. Mostly for mixing meat so I dont have to do it by hand.

I make a few different types of dough with it.

For example I sometimes make my own Samosa.

>>13013305
Wow, anon wasn’t a fag today

>>13013288
I see this copypasta is still effective

>>13020763
That's like having a hand mixer, which is more than enough for me. But a stronger stand mixer can do things that require more strength than a handheld one. Immersion blenders aren't going to be able to knead dough with a hook, and even though I'm content with the abilities of my hand mixer, they can't cream and whip as much volume at anywhere near the same power. You will definitely get a better result from a hefty stand mixer. OP's whole point is that he feels his wife doesn't need quite that level of baking equipment since she's inexperienced and could start out with a handheld item (which she probably does have) and work up from there if these maintains interest. She doesn't want a hand mixer or immersion blender though. She's convinced she needs a Kitchen Aid and really can't logically justify it. What most replies are saying is that it's not that big of an investment in the first place and to encourage her interest even if it doesn't seem like she truly *needs* it. She may or may not actually develop her baking skills, but they are pretty decent small appliances that last a long time (not as long as the old ones indestructible ones but that's true for practically everything) and can be decently useful even if on occasion. At least she doesn't want the juceiro or an expensive sous vide.

Retard, buy it. Then shame her into baking 24/7 and/or use it as leverage in any discussion, because she will of course NOT bake, being a woman.

compromise by buying yourself a drill press and getting her a bread hook that you can put in a jacobs chuck

>>13022341
This is genuinely the worst idea in the thread

>>13020786
>have a wife
>she lets me handle the finances
????

>>13022465
>want to go for a girl
>100 guys have gone for her already tonight at least as with every night and slowly she’s seen everything men have to say to her and could only possibly be impressed by looks I don’t have

>>13013391
No. I make my pizza dough in a food processor.

>>13014337
He's going to distill so it doesn't matter. Basically when you make hooch you're brewing beer that you're going to distill into high proof liquor by (more or less) boiling out most of the water. In fact a mid-range beer (5-6% ABV) is ideal for distilling because it's fast and inexpensive.

>>13013626
>Well, I'm currently making 150 liters of vodka using bakers yeast (SAF) so I do know about fermentation
That's not as impressive as you think think that it is. Any retard can make backyard shine.

>>13022480
>looking for women in a bar
lol
>looking for women on online dating
extra lol

>>13022548
So when you tell incels they’re just not trying...

>>13022548
And you’re not at all concerned about the sociopathic view of men this gives women?

>>13013288
What are the things you wanted to buy that were vetoed?

>>13022565
I don't tell them anything. Looking for a girlfriend or future wife at bar is dumb.

>>13022656
Or online

>>13013288
you're right shit isn't worth the counter space just give her a hand mixer

>>13022533

It's not impressive, it's just getting the job done at 2 bucks a handle. What did you think I meant?

>>13022533
My God you sound like a faggot.

>>13022754
Seething. Literal backwoods hicks who flunked out of kindergarten can make shine.

>>13022606
Dragon dildos

>>13013288
no wonder she turned the tap off.
youre a whiny ass bitch.

>>get her the damn mixer with all the attachments...
its the mixer you only have to buy ONCE.
it does more than just mix crap in a bowl. it also grinds meat and some of them are blenders too
you would need to buy 3 or 4 seperate apliances to equal one of these. the motors are made to last thats why you only buy them once.

>>13022754
What do I have to be mad about? Other thank how faggoty your last post was?

>>13023033
>>13022763
>replied to myself
>can't spell
alright you win, fuck it.

>>13022927
Cuck

if she wants to spend her own money why stop her? if she wants to waste your money and it's even up for debate you're a cuck and might as well get that divorce now.

>>13013288
I use one for large batches of mayo and meringue and sometimes whipped cream
I'll also use it to cream the butter and sugar for cookies on occasion. It's nice to have if you have the space.

>>13022548
I agree that bars and any other nightlife is a horrible way to meet women, but people who are serious will pay for better quality online dating services where everyone else is also paying and serious. You will never find a decent woman (or man) on Tinder, Plenty of Fish, and OK Cupid. Anyone who feels they can't meet someone in person and needs to use online resources to find a wife or husband should not use that caliber of trash app/site.

>>13024962
This whole incel thing has really brought out who’s stupid and who isn’t in our society like never before

If your marriage is in jeopardy because of a fucking stand mixer, you probably shouldn't even be with her. Either get a hand mixer or something or break up with her and call it a day. Stand mixers sre worthless.

>>13020780
$30 cheap, yeah, sure
You're not gonna break a $200 mixer just baking occasionally

>>13025743
But KitchenAid stand mixers start at $200, so at that point it's just matter of preference.

>>13013591
>don't buy the mixer
>fuck her anyways
It's that easy. I despise the meme that you have to let women do whatever they want, or have to constantly give them material things to be lucky enough to be GRACED by their vagina

>>13013288
get her a god damn stand mixer asshole.

>>13019916
>A mixer makes it easier for little weakling babs to make stuff.
Better yet make the weakling babs do everything by hand and get strong otherwise they don't eat.

>>13015033
this is the only piece of wisdom in this thread

>>13013320
are you indian?

Give it to her for Christmas. Ez pz

>>13013288
Buy it. Quit being a potential cuck.

>>13013288
>to which I countered by bringing up all the things I wanted to buy that were vetoed by her

Your "marriage" was never worth saving anyway, now go back to ribbit and never come back.

Does she know that electric hand mixers exist and they're super cheap? Only reason she wants one is because she's a retard who watches trashy British baking-themed reality shows and thinks that's what you need to bake.

>>13013288
don't do it anon. i bought one for my wife last christmas and she's used it maybe 5 times. that is also approximately the number of times we've had sex since then as well.

>>13013288
>My wife argues that she most definitely needs a stand mixer
She does.

>and argues that it is worth the cost
Yes, they cost as much as a small fridge, but imagine the pizza, the fresh bread, the buns, the meragnes, the cakes all the shit she's going to make with it.

At worst, she doesn't use it, you resell it.

>>13013288
They come in handy, stop being poor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-kSvfB-yw4

>>13013288
Start using it to make infinite pizza dough. There, you basically won't have another sad day for the rest of your life

>>13013320
>seeks marital advice on 4chan
>I really am a reasonable person
something tells me you're not giving us the whole truth

>>13013288
Just fucking let her have one you faggot and use it as an excuse to get something expensive you want like a graphics card or some shit. You will then have the pleasure in a few months time of saying "I told you so" whilst playing "there's poop in my soup" with graphics cranked up yo the max.