/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Prove it
>inb4 you can't

why do u hate the planet m8

wtf is keto

/ck/ hates everything you like. Think skub.

keto is a little extreme
just go low carb

>>13001487
People who eat carbs are bigger and stronger than those who dont. This is a fact.

>>13001487
Keto is not inherently healthy or unhealthy, just like Veganism.
Keto just means almost zero carb, low protein and high fat.
That could be a million different diets, some healthy, some downright terrible.
The memesters saying they only eat butter and bacon all day are definitely NOT healthy.

>>13001495
Source?

>>13001495
If that really is a fact, it should be easy for you to prove it.
Go ahead.

>>13001493
>>13001495
Keto isn't zero carbs.
>>13001487
Intermediate fasting + keto
And people hate keto because they hate all diets or are too used to high protein diets. Keto atleast has logic behind it. Just if you disagree with benefits of being in ketosis.

>>13001487
Keto works for obese fucks to get them to lose weight quickly in a short period of time. Even medfags agree with that. However, a prolonged keto diet will result in serious health issues.

Iow, short term keto to expose your obese induced stretch marks; long term keto to kys.

>>13001487
>Intentionally keeping your body in emergency-panic-mode for extended periods of time
>Healthy

>>13001487
Anybody that promotes a way of eating that doesn't allow you to have as much traditionally made pizza (wheat flour, tomato sauce, mozzarella) as you want is the devil.

>>13001488
checked and >>>/pol/ is that way

>>13001639
/thread

>>13001488
>1488

>>13001487
Because every single "diet" is fucking stupid. It doesn't need a name or a community or a support group or special cook books or bumper stickers. Just eat a good variety of foods in small portions with an emphasis on avoiding large portions of things highly calorie dense. Keep your calorie intake in proportion to your height and activity level and good health will follow.

>>13001505
Strongmen competitors eat a lotta carbs

>>13001487
Fruits, whole grains, legumes, and beans, all basically have been proven in study after study to have a ton of health benefits. Keto completely removes all of these. Even milk and potatoes provide almost all the nutrition you need but are said to be bad because carbs.

Keto works because it forces you to cut out junk food and makes it harder to overeat, not because carbs are inherently bad, and you can do those things without completely cutting carbs.

>>13001487
it might be healthy, but it makes me want to kill myself because every meal is boring as fuck.

I can't keto for life, I keto for a few days after fasting, then going back to spaghetti, pizza, cakes and fruits.

>>13001845
beans are full of lectins, that's why you soak them and then boil them for hours,

if you ate raw beans it would cause so much problems

>>13001488

>>13001888
Not all beans are toxic when raw, and it doesn't prove that they're bad for you when properly cooked.

>>13001487
Guys
*eats a bag of pork rinds*
Keto is
*Fry steak in bacon grease*
So healthy
*melts an entire stick of solid animal fat into a single cup of coffee*

>>13001639
I think I'm on year 5 now. Healthier than ever. When am I going to die from this?

>>13001639

Literally the only down side of keto is elevated cortisol but no one is gonna die from that. I'm on year three and still alive. Ironically keto cured my anxiety despite this.

>>13001639
>serious health issues

Such as?

>>13001639
if I cant eat my snoy I die the post

Healthiest for an insurance companies profits

>>13002047
You’ll die from being an obnoxious fat preachy faggot. And atherosclerosis

>>13002183
>cholesterol bad
A keto deit gets most of its fat from plants. Try again. This isn't that meme eat bacon all day deit.

>>13001487
Because it isn’t a long term diet and you don’t understand how ketosis works.

>>13002183
Cholesterol is only harmful if the LDL particles are glycated/oxidized.
So, it's sugar and free radicals that destroy the LDL particles and they can't return to the liver, so they hover around and cause problems.

Every single cell of your body has cholesterol and you need it to synthesize new cells and hormones etc.

Stop living in the lie that they told you.

Carbs BAD, that's why the countries with the highest life expectancies eat barely any carbs... oh, wait.

low carb is healthy, ketosis is a meme

extreme low carb diets are very unhealthy

>>13002248
Shh! Ketotards say that life expectancy data is a korean, japanese, italian, jewish, socialist, gombunist, globalist UN conspiracy to force you to starve. Do you even Infowars?

>>13002191
Wrong, and saturated fats are still bad

>>13002204
Cholesterol is harmful in any dietary amount, oxidation just makes it worse.
>So its sugar
Refined sugar oxidizes as does saturated fats, it is not either or

>>13002204
There is no lie, you are just a brainwashed retard living the lies of fish oil salemen. Your liver synthesizes cholesterol on its own from any lipid consumption, no dietary consumption of cholesterol is required, this is the equivalent of saying eat brains to help your own brain.

>>13002204
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10704618/
Dietary cholesterol itself OXIDIZES serum cholesterol

oh wow I sure wouldn't want to shorten my lifespan the 21st century looks like it's gonna be great

I don't think you can eat fruit on keto

>>13002313
>>13002316
>no distinction between plant and animal fat
How I know you're a retard.

>>13002183
Still useless as it's using levels of cholesterol intake that pretty much nobody will reach and doesn't say what it's pushing the total level to.

Nobody is denying that eating cholesterol can raise your cholesterol level, just that it's not enough to matter. And some studies seem to show that veganism is only beneficial if you have other risk factors like being obese, an alcoholic, a smoker, etc. but without those factors animal products don't really cause a problem.

why not just fast

>>13002445
What the fuck do you think cholesterol is you retard?

>>13002560
your brain is made of cholesterol

>>13002450
The average person consumes around 400mgs a day. And its enough to matter where that level raises you a full mmoL point and puts you in the danger zone for atherosclerotic risk from cholesterol consumption alone let alone other dietary lipids or habits in general

>>13002445
You really are such a fucking moron. That needed to be restated.

>>13002563
Non sequitir

>>13001487
>be me
>go out with friends
>they bring a friend of theirs
>order food, I ask for sallad instaid of fries
>friends friend ask why
>I say I cant eat to much carbs
>lamo are you into that keto shit? you know its not healthy right?
I just don't want to get seizures...

>>13002569
>raises you a full mmoL point and puts you in the danger zone
The graph doesn't say that's what's happening because you don't know what it's bringing the total up to.

>>13002579
You dont even have to be keto to not want fries.

Its a lot of calories if you didnt plan for it

>>13002633
It is raising it a full point from a non cholesterol, likely low fat consumer who probably has a total cholesterol score of 4.1-4.2. I think you can safely infer the rest

>>13001845
You forgot crappy study after crappy study have proven an incredible rise in obesity and diabetes. This since the food guide promoted it. Ask the eskimos and other tribes what they think of carbs. Hardly any fat people in the 60's prior. Idiot.

https://www.thespec.com/living-story/9624514-how-risky-is-eating-red-meat-mcmaster-university-paper-provokes-controversy/

>>13002313
https://www.thespec.com/living-story/9624514-how-risky-is-eating-red-meat-mcmaster-university-paper-provokes-controversy/

>>13002675
You mean the eskimoes that die from stroke and cancer in their 50s?

>>13002683
Yes, a shitty industry study using some of the lowest evidence on the hierarchical scale and the researchers literally contradict their own findings in the conclusion.

>muh food guide
Yeah thats what kids were eating! Dozens of servings of fruits and vegetables a day and absolutely zero fried sticks of butter and chips.

>>13002715
Don't talk shit about my spacemen bros

>>13001488
>Prove it
Carbs are literally poison.

>>13002859
Yeah that’s why your body will go to great lengths to manufacture glucose even if you eat absolutely 0 of it
Fucking mongoloid

Is there any reason besides not being all shaky on the ground to actually be on a ketogenic diet? maybe weight loss?

>>13002648
>I think you can safely infer the rest
Yeah. Doesn't seem like a big deal unless you eat a ridiculous amount of cholesterol that a normal person will never consume.

>>13003160
The normal person consumes 300-400mg of cholesterol a day, that raises your mmoL a full point. That from cholesterol alone puts you in a danger zone for atherosclerotic risk

>>13002675
>This since the food guide promoted it.
We've been eating fruit/grains/beans for longer than the modern food guide's existence and the modern obesity issue. It's stupid to blame carbs. You know what's a bigger change? The amount of technological developments that made it so most people don't have to farm their own food and can do nothing but sit around and eat all day.

You're also ignoring that the longest-living populations get a large portion of their calories from carbs. And that countries like Japan have low rates of obesity in spite of their high intake of white rice. You will get fat on any diet if you take in more calories than you need.

>>13003169
>The normal person consumes 300-400mg of cholesterol a day, that raises your mmoL a full point.
Graph says 300-400mg doesn't even bring you up half a point and you'd need closer to 1500mg to go up a full point. Going up a full point from 4.2 is still within normal levels.

>>13003207
You clearly can’t read, that is obviously well above half a point.
>you'd need closer to 1500mg to go up a full point
Missing the point still
>Going up a full point from 4.2 is still within normal levels.
That doesn’t mean healthy, that is literally edging on major heart attack risk

>>13001891
sauce?

>>13001487
The fact the one thing ketogenic diet is indisputably beneficial for is treating intractable epilepsy yet almost no epileptics can tolerate it even though *it actually works* should tell you something about how not meant for human consumption that approach to diet is.
To break this down some more, these epileptic seizures they have cause them to suffocate to the point of turning purple, gives them brain damage that makes additional epileptic seizures even likelier in the future, happens commonly in response to stress (meaning you know if you feel worried about it you're actually making one more likely to begin), makes them drop to the floor spasming and shitting their pants, etc.
Yet the ketogenic diet is *worse* than that. It has one of the most notoriously poor tolerance rates of any treatment, even when counting shit like chemo therapy.
If you look at the data on the kids who've been placed on the ketogenic diet as a treatment for childhood epilepsy, the normal annual incidence of pediatric kidney stones is something like 3.7 per 100,000 kids, compared with 1 in 10 kids on the ketogenic diet:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2852806/
>There have been several reports about renal calculi developing in children on the ketogenic diet since the first report more than 30 years ago.9-11 The prevalence of renal caculi in people on the ketogenic diet is 3-10%, compared with 1 in several thousand in the general population.12 Chronic acidosis, dehydration, low urine pH, and fat malabsorption all contribute to the formation of uric acid and calcium oxalate stones.9,10
That's an increase in annual kidney stone risk by a factor of 2,700.
If you do "keto" and don't have epilepsy you're completely retarded.

>>13001488
How great I feel compared to a "balanced diet"

>>13001487
>keto
Reminder that you don't lose more weight if you keep calories the same and only change the macronutrient ratio.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
>Comparison of weight-loss diets with different compositions of fat, protein, and carbohydrates.
>CONCLUSIONS: Reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7096307_Ketogenic_low-carbohydrate_diets_have_no_metabolic_advantage_over_nonketogenic_low-carbohydrate_diets
>Ketogenic low-carbohydrate diets have no metabolic advantage over nonketogenic low-carbohydrate diets
>KLC and NLC diets were equally effective in reducing body weight and insulin resistance, but the KLC diet was associated with several adverse metabolic and emotional effects. The use of ketogenic diets for weight loss is not warranted.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27385608
>Energy expenditure and body composition changes after an isocaloric ketogenic diet in overweight and obese men.
>The carbohydrate-insulin model of obesity posits that habitual consumption of a high-carbohydrate diet sequesters fat within adipose tissue because of hyperinsulinemia and results in adaptive suppression of energy expenditure (EE). Therefore, isocaloric exchange of dietary carbohydrate for fat is predicted to result in increased EE, increased fat oxidation, and loss of body fat. In contrast, a more conventional view that "a calorie is a calorie" predicts that isocaloric variations in dietary carbohydrate and fat will have no physiologically important effects on EE or body fat.
>CONCLUSION: The isocaloric KD was not accompanied by increased body fat loss but was associated with relatively small increases in EE that were near the limits of detection with the use of state-of-the-art technology.

>>13001495
Bigger for sure

>>13002316
Why was I going crazy on a low fat diet? My daily panic attacks stopped when I upped my staturated fat and lowered my carbs

>>13003241
>You clearly can’t read, that is obviously well above half a point.
.45 is not above half

>Missing the point still
Or your point was wrong

>That doesn’t mean healthy, that is literally edging on major heart attack risk
Doesn't seem like it's a problem for people who eat normally and aren't obese.

>be me
>Go keto
>Bad GERD and heartburn stops, mood is up and depression and anxiety much lower
Sorry bros but I'm a believer.

>>13003261
Ketards will never recover from this

>>13003280
Sounds like you're a cuck who panics without hamburgers and tendies which boost your dopamines because you are addicted

>>13003280
>Why was I going crazy on a low fat diet?
Because if you're suggestible you can trick yourself into believing untrue things. Any other questions?

>>13003308
Yeah my panic attacks since the 6th grade were just meat withdrawals, guess ill just keep eating meat anyway since i feel great now, Vegans are delusional and unironically deserve death.

>>13003303
If you switched to a diet that was low fiber and mostly meat, then that's why your GI symptoms improved. It has nothing to do with ketosis. Most people don't realize with constant modern pro-fiber propaganda that fiber itself causes plenty of intestinal problems. If you aren't prone to constipation eating a bunch of high fiber foods will probably just give you bad gas and diarrhea. Fiber's not magic, it's just pseudo-food that doesn't get digested, which can maybe help some people by moving shit along but which might just as well irritate the fuck out of your guts.

>>13003327
Awww triggered? Try not having a heart attack on top of the panic attack you’re having right now you fat nutjob

>>13003336
Havent had one in months now, enjoy the stroke soiboy

>>13003330
You’re an devolved parasite ridden defect if fiber irritates your guts in even high amounts. Different gut biomes produced by diet and environment cause different effects with the foods you eat. Of course it gets digested you fucking stupid shit.

>>13003303
What was your diet like before? Were you overweight?

The people I know who did keto to lose weight had it work, but they were also constantly chugging soda before switching to keto. People like that cutting out soda but then going and blaming apples and lentils for being part of the problem seems assbackwards because you know apples and lentils didn't cause the problem. Seems like it mainly works by forcing people to cut out refined carbs and most junk food, not that all carbs are inherently bad.

>>13003344
Seems like you’re having one right now, fat fuck.

>the mean vegans are so mean :,( i cant have bread or ill panic again!!!
Lol what a fucking loser.

>>13003330
>If you aren't prone to constipation eating a bunch of high fiber foods will probably just give you bad gas and diarrhea.
I eat a lot of beans, whole grains, and vegetables, and pretty much never have bad gas or diarrhea.

A study I saw recently said that cutting fiber helped some people who were constipated, but there were a lot of factors that could've been causing issues elsewhere that the study didn't mention. I don't think fiber is an issue in a normal diet though.

>>13003351
Its ok I know you feel like shit and your all inflamed, just eat the steak, it will all be ok

>>13003359
Careful there, chunky. That green stuff might trigger your panic attacks lmao

>>13003367
The Boogaloo can't come soon enough leftist parasite

>>13003367
I don't think the guy ever said he went full carnivore. Just that he started eating more fat and less carbs. You can do that without doing keto/carnivore diets.

>>13003254
I actually don't know lol

>>13003370
Yeah, im so terrified. Thankfully I have a loaf of bread holstered just in case you get too close

>>13001758
this is a bait post

>>13003380
It's not. Obviously they eat a shitload of meat and also all probably use steroids, but they definitely eat a lot of carbs and sometimes even a lot of refined carbs for quick energy.

>>13003345
>You’re an devolved parasite ridden defect if fiber irritates your guts in even high amounts.
You're wrong. Fiber as a gut irritant is a well established problem.
>Of course it gets digested you fucking stupid shit.
Not being digested is the entire point.
https://www.nutrition.org.uk/nutritionscience/nutrients-food-and-ingredients/dietary-fibre.html?limitstart=0
>Dietary fibre used to be known as ‘roughage’, and refers to a group of substances in plant foods which cannot be completely broken down by human digestive enzymes.
It's even dubious as a constipation treatment:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/
>Dietary fiber is also associated with increased bloatedness and abdominal discomfort[22]. Insoluble fiber was reported to worsen the clinical outcome of abdominal pain and constipation[18-20]. In our recent study, patients who followed a diet with no or less dietary fiber intake showed a significant improvement, not just in their constipation, but also in their bloatedness. Patients who completely stopped consuming dietary fiber no longer suffered from abdominal bloatedness and pain. These symptoms are caused by the fermentation of dietary fiber by colonic bacteria, which produces hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane[23]. Gases that are trapped by peristaltic colon exert pressure on the walls, causing the abdominal pain experienced by patients.
>In conclusion, contrary to popularly held beliefs, reducing or stopping dietary fiber intake improves constipation and its associated symptoms.
And here's a positive study about fiber:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257631/
Which is hilarious since one of the main benefits of fiber covered is how it *interferes* with digestion (thanks obesity epidemic for turning that into a selling point):
>These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy.

>>13003380
The fuck do you think they eat? Coconut oil steaks all day? They need calories and actual energy bro

>>13003378
No seriously I want to see you suffer for being a jewish golem and enabling dietary advice that destroys people's lives.

>>13003389
Gut irritant for gutter people, usually people with IBS, a parasite, or Crohns. Or more likely neets eating tendies all day
>not being digested is the entire point
As your link literally says its digested. You dont know what digestion means. Soluble fiber is fully digested while insoluble is broken down by gut bacteria, remainding cellulose is shat out normally overwhelming amount of the time

>>13003389
>And here's a positive study about fiber:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257631/
>Which is hilarious since one of the main benefits of fiber covered is how it *interferes* with digestion (thanks obesity epidemic for turning that into a selling point):
>>These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy.

>Dietary fiber consists of many different constituents, however; some are of particular interest and include arabinoxylan, inulin, β-glucan, pectin, bran and resistant starches. These individual components of dietary fiber have been shown to significantly play an important role in improving human health.
These studies mostly seem to say that for people who already have constipation issues, stopping fiber intake can help, but that doesn't mean it's bad for everyone else. I have no issues with pain or constipation and eat plenty of fibrous foods.

>>13003398
It destroys the life of a genetic defect like you that gets panic attacks from fucking bread lmao. Take that as natural selection telling you to kill yourself, retard. Enjoy your inevitable panic attacks again around the time your heart attacks come in, gordo.

>>13003345

it’s why kernels come out yer cornhole, whole

>>13003423
Wow. She stopped wearing make up. Truly a deadly diet.

>>13003428
The other two look like shit, but this is literally the same picture other than scruffier hair and different lighting

>OH NO MOMMY MOMMY!!!!! I WANT MY MOMMY!!! IM HAVING A PANIC ATTACK!!!! MOMMY!!! GET THE MEATIES PLEASE MOMMY!!! I-IM P-PANICKING!! MOMMY!!!

>>13003438
The (((Vegan))) cries out in pain as he strikes you

>Ketards are so addicted to fat that they think anyone who thinks keto is unhealthy is vegan
Lmao, just eat less fatties.

>>13003457
Sure thats not you crying out in pain after another soda, fatty?

>>13001497
>veganism isn't inherently unhealthy, you just have to precisely engineer which memes you eat to not feel like shit
keto is way way way better, its pretty close to the final redpill of food:
when you're hungry, just eat L M A O
(does not apply to genetic fuckups or sick people. if eating real food when you're hungry makes you sick, you're a genetic fuckup btw)

Imagine being so fat that you think grains, the crops that literally have fed human civilization are evil and taste icky compared to a fat laden bacon, coconut oil, eggs, avocado, and ham meal.

>>13003489
You choose a vegan diet for ethics or environmental reasons. You choose Keto because you are fat

>>13003490
Yeah, fed the peasants like you

>>13003509
i am neither "ethical"(deontology was a mistake) nor fat, though i wager i take care of the environment better than all the soys around me

>>13002290
Infowars would never entertain the idea that Jews do any wrong to be fair.

>>13003489
Depriving your body of carbs is not a “redpill” you fat fuck

Regarding Keto--just cut out the obvious empty bullshit (all fast food, including pizza and related items like pasta and bread/rice heavy "prepared for you" bullshit)--that's step one. Step two is refined sugars--cut high sugar empty bullshit like soda, most desserts, *condiments* and most breakfast items (pancakes, maple syrup...all that shit) and lastly...space your meals.

Basically don't eat fast food, cook for yourself, know what to cook and skip the sweets. AND SPACE MEALS. That's the Keto part--do you have to shovel food down your gullet all day? NO. One to two solid meals a day, along with at least 10k steps a day, minimum. It's not rocket science. Low calories and carbs, high protein and healthy fats. Seek the foods that fit that model and COOK YOUR OWN MEALS. That way you control salt, sugar, and starch levels. It's not rocket science...it's health over time on a x/y axis chart, that's all. Plot your point.

>>13002859
lol brainlet

>>13003664
you colossal faggot where did i write that?
the redpill is JUST EAT.

>>13003254
Ashley Jones - JIDF PSA
It's on Youtube.

>>13003489
And vegans eat when? When they're not hungry? Dummy.

>>13003785
you missed the point entirely.
also yes, vegans, ketos, fatasses and skinny faggots often eat also when they aren't hungry.
boredom, social pressure, you name it.
here ill make this simple enough for you to understand: when hungry apply food (carbs plants meats fungi) into mouth until not hungry. repeat on hunger. nothing else works as good.

>>13003796
That's what everyone except for bodybuilders and elite athletes do you inbred retard. So I didn't miss the point, you just assume the majority of people ignores what their body tells them.

>>13001487
Unless you have a medical condition diets are fucking stupid no matter what type they are. Eat a variety of foods, don't stuff hour face like a fat ass, and exercise.

>>13003801
>you just assume the majority of people ignores what their body tells them.
wrong
i assume (and rightfully so) people eat even when their body -does not- tell them to eat. they should stop that. only eat when you are hungry. stop when not hungry. not when full, not when stuffed, when not hungry. if i didn't know any better id guess you're american since they can't tell the difference.

>>13003803
this

>>13001488
Thats the 13 hundred and 1st time 1488 has been posted on this board

>>13003809
No matter how you put it, you're still wrong and dumb.

>>13001495
Shiet, Asians wish that was true

>>13001487
Gets boring fast but it gets the job done well for weight loss. Not really a diet for life desu
t. former fattie

>>13004014
>former
You will always be fat on the inside.

>>13004015
Yeah, i agree. Kek

>>13004015
Elaborate because im a former fatty and I still feel that way

ITT; seething vegans mad at people for eating meat

>>13004123
Point to a single post where that happens.

>the absolute state of ketotards

>>13004492
>carblets in damage control mode

>>13001758
>people who are hospitalized multiple times a year eat carbs
Makes you think huh
Maybe if they went keto they wouldnt have to.

Glucose is like the water of calories.
The body loves it, and it is rather harmless to a properly functioning human body.
It is insane and unhealthy to replace glucose with hard to process fats and proteins.

>>13004543
>yes goym eat the high fructose corn syrup

>>13001947
I don't see anything wrong with this

>>13004554
Fructose isn’t the same thing as glucose retard.

Doing it again now to get my head straight and my confidence back up. I had a salad last night with lighter color greens and a dressing that I’m pretty sure was fattier than anything else. Am I still in ketosis? Generally I just take it to the extreme and live on supplements, bacon, eggs, avocado and spoon fulls of coconut oil so there’s no doubt in my head, but I was out of fiber supplements, broke, and had no meat in the house.

>>13001489
You can do keto without meat.

>>13001891
5 years later and I still catch people posting her. Truly an anomaly

>>13001487
tried keto in 2016. The energy was great and I lost weight but after about a month I noticed it was making my hair fall out so I stopped. Instead I just don't eat from 8PM to 12PM and it works just as well. Plus when I'm at get-togethers I don't have to be all prude about my diet.

>>13004776
>yes goym keep getting those carbs, if you get sick dont forget big pharma is here for you.

>>13001487
because it's another over reaction diet. People have a tendancy to eat too much simple carbs, so suddenly EAT NO CARBS WHAT SO EVER meme diet. People eat too much processed meat? EAT NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS. People go full retard vegan EAT ONLY RED MEAT.

Will be funny watching the KETO generation dropping dead around me in 20 years time.
>OH NO MY HEART EXPLODED WTF I DIDN'T EAT ANY CARBS

>>13004994
You say this without any data to back it up
lamo
Carbfags in denail

>>13004999
We know that people on traditional diets (in a developed country) live on average up till 82 or so.
You are the one experimenting with something without any actual scientific backing behind it.
Nobody knows the long term effects of a KETO diet.

>>13005012
>actual scientific backing behind it.
Weird how they use it on some shaky kids then
stay mad carblet

>>13005012
>eat carbs diet that makes you chronically hungry
>get obese, get medicated and heart surgery to limp to retirement age
>die after 2 years of seriously poor health and agony

>>13001879
Are you a complete pleb at cooking? Making great food without potatoes, sugar and flour is easy as hell.

>>13005023
>eat carbs diet that makes you chronically hungry
eating a high starch low fat diet will not make you chronically hungry. In fact you'll feel fuller.

it is the high fat diet that makes people chronically hungry.

why? because the body craves glucose, not fat. Fat is a high calorie sludge that is difficult for the body to utilize, so it stores it in body fat and slowly burns it.

Glucose can be put to use right away and this means less hunger.

>>13005023
Japanese are thin, Italians are thin. Cope harder, fattie.

>>13005729
Neither follow modern western "recommended" diets. They gobble fatty fish or olive oil like no tomorrow.

>>13005727
>carbs can be put to use right away and this means less hunger.
Your blood sugar peaks after eating carbs causing changes in mood, blood sugar then drops faster, and you get hungry and you need to stuff more carbs into your mouth to stop feeling drowsy.
>Hey you know how you're hungry all the time? Eat a lot of times a day minimizing the amount of rest your intestines have.

Most "extreme" diets are bullshit for trendy faggots, just eat smaller, well balanced meals and exercice at least 3 times a week and you'll lose weight.

>>13005820
Yea I agree, balance it out by removeing carbs

>>13003941
Yeah because it's not, white people got big on animal foods. No plants in the Nordic snow

>>13005820
keto is basically CiCo except instead of counting calories you use your bodys hunger hormones to count them for you.

meat isn't healthy

>>13005942
>thinks processed soylent is healthy
Lol

>>13005942
Humans ate it for thousands of years and suddenly its bad for you, You can't Jew me.

>>13005781
>Neither follow modern western "recommended" diets. They gobble fatty fish or olive oil like no tomorrow.
How does this contradict all the carbs in their diets? Are you moving the goalposts because you got btfo perhaps?https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/japan-healthiest-people-in-the-world-carbs-high-grain-diet_n_56f08cc4e4b084c6722139ca/amp

>>13005947
Nice strawman, fattie.

>>13005969
>f-f-fattie
>doesnt know what a adhomonime is
soysoysoysoy

>>13005979
>adhomonime
Yeah, this nigga better be baiting.

>>13005958
monkeys didn't eat much meat
hunter-gathers ate vegetarian most of the time

>>13005961
They eat less overall.

>>13006002
Please stop lying you food nazi

>>13006002
This is the most stupid thing I have read in a long while

Keto worked for me as a few month thing. Always felt just a little dizzy. Never felt hungry outside of meals. Went from 240 to 200 in 100 days or so. Kept it off when I switched back to normal. I think doing it forever would drive me insane and make my kidneys explode; during keto if I ate a single bite of bread my brain would scream at me to shove all carbs in sight inside of me.

>>13001639
How long do you need to be on keto for the effects to start showing? 3 months?

ITT: retards continue to think keto means high protein and no carbs.

Keto is low carb and values plant based fats over protein. It is literally one of if not the most healthy diets you can be on. This liver and muscle damage shit is from high protein and low water diets like Atkins not keto.

>>13002856
Finally, I have found my equal in inuit-posting

>>13001508
Intermittent? Way to out yourself as a moron.

>>13007121
>It is literally one of if not the most healthy diets you can be on.
Source?