/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12990572
gumbo isn't french. it's influenced by french technique but it's slave food.

>>12990572
Maybe I can trade you for a chili dog recipe? I want to make something english.

>>12990581
This, start with a roux and build it up, taste it as you go, add seafood, crab, shrimp, oysters if you're up for them, if you can get some andouille sausage add that in there, if not don't substitute another sausage, it isn't going to have that same taste. The vegetables added really depend on what you like but I personally am not a big fan Okra but to each their own

>>12990581
>slave food

>>12990572

closest thing i can find in french cuisine to this is the potee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr2kZ26X2Qc
amazing winter dish but wouldnt cook it for a date cuz it leaves an old fart smell in the kitchen

>>12990627
That’s why it’s full of shellfish, lobster and shit used to be considered food for the poor.

>>12990657
Nah. Those are included, because New Orleans had a lot of hobos, vagrants, bumpkins, and ne'er do wells.

>>12990667
I mean 13% is 50% of those.

>>12990689
Yea, but back then the 13% weren't the culinary trendsetters.

>>12990581
The only good food in the US is what was formally slave food, all from the south too.
Second best is food from non-white immigrants like the Italians, Latins and Greeks and such.
White people have objectively the worst food.

>>12990721
This is your brain on CNN.

>>12990727
Everything he said is objectively true.
What the fuck is even white people food? Casseroles of potatoes and minced meat in various variations? Not exactly the best of foods.

>>12990721
>non-white immigrants like the Italians, Latins and Greeks and such.
Kek these people are honorary whites for accomplishing a culture. They’re also superior caucasoids. Actually all of northern africa was colonized by caucasoids, those blacks are really a hybrid between the negroid and true humans but probably mostly just black whites like Indians.

Anyway, who needs to make food when you were blessed as the strongest race and can make all the others cook for you?

>>12990733
>American slaves made everything
Seems like an idiotic turn of events since they haven't made anything but sticks, and crime before, and after slavery.
It's literally the ultimate cope awarded to black people out of sheer pity.

>bla bla bla white pride
Please stay on topic.

>>12990755
Stop being such a triggered racist snowflake. We are talking about food, retard.

>Bla bla let's just pretend that slaves made it to shut them the fuck up.
>2019 blags into French cuisine bruh

>>12990755
Most of the time I attribute racism on this website to edgelords trying to piss sensitive people off. In this case though I get the sense that you have deep rooted animosity towards non-white people. You should get your emotions in check.

>>12990764
The real rayciss are the people who are hell bent on forcing a baseless myth.

>>12990776
This how can you even complain about whites being racist in 2019 for making complaints about facts while people rail on whites for literally no reason

>>12990770
I'm not even white, so fuck you. Not every "minority" agrees with your corruption of history btw.

Ah yes, white people and their "food"

>>12990721
>>12990770
This type of thinking is what led to South Africa's current state.

>>12990809
God help me for thinking that BBQ Hog is more delicious than Chicken Pot Pie.

>>12990814
Is this post relevant?

>>12990820
It's literally what the topic of the conversation was about before the racist retard got TRIGGERED over nothing.

>>12990821
Thread isn't about BBQ hog, or pot pie though, you know iq retard.

>>12990830
>low iq
inb4 retard rages on a typo

>>12990572
The secret to good gumbo is getting the roux as dark as possible w/o burning it. It should almost be the color of dark chocolate.

>>12990809
Or what almost led to mass starvation in Zimbabwe before they brought white people back to help manage the government

>>12990850
Do those no borders lefty tards ever acknowledge the ultranationalism rising in Africa over the last few decades?

>>12990830
Kek you are getting really heated aren't you.
Where's all this insecurity coming from?

>>12990850
That, and what led to that African kid destroying his racist university that gave him full scholarship. It was okay, because blacks are the victims when they commit crimes, and had invented everything.

>>12990866
Is this your takeaway?

>>12990868
>African kid destroying his racist university that gave him full scholarship
Source?

>>12990873
Yes, your fragile ego getting pierced by the allegation that boiled potatoes and sardines don't quite cut it as top tier food.

>>12990572
There is a basics with babish on how to do this. Don’t worry, there is an actual expert teaching and babish is just standing there in the video

>>12990885
Why did you think they invited him in the first place?
What do you think is the whole point about diversity?
They invited him and others like him so that they could learn to interact with their culture, so that later on they could build strong relationships, that won't be fragile enough to break down over simple misunderstandings.
Part of that is understand what one culture does that another culture finds offensive and then to reach a middle ground. He was doing precisely what they brought him over to do.

>>12990689
Niggers destroyed yet again

>>12990885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Must_Fall

>>12990886
So you claim (without any evidence, and your emotions aren't sufficient proof btw).

>He has rejected accusations of hypocrisy for receiving money from the Rhodes scholarship scheme, claiming that he is merely recovering wealth stolen from Africans by Rhodes during the colonial period.
Lel. Gibs me dat.

>>12990925
>Out of 2700 students, 1100 students voted. Sixty percent of them were against the removal of the statue, 38% were in favour of its removal and the remaining 2% abstained. However, the poll did not measure strength of opinion. A consensus in the Senate found that many who are against removal did not feel strongly about the issue.

Lefties lmao, never change

The gumbo in this video is 100% how we cook it in the south. Don't mix seafood with anything else, i.e. sausage. https://youtu.be/nORg_aXMsmA

>>12990925
>The university protests have been criticised for their increasingly violent nature[48] and their racism against non-black students,[11][57] especially their "extreme hatred of whites".[66] Some black students claim they fear retribution should they not support the protests
God fuck the left so much

>>12991124
>Oxford
>Leftists
Please do show more of your ignorance.

>>12991162
Pretty much.

>>12991162
Being euroshit is being leftist by default.

>>12991178
You have no fucking clue, retard. America is basically all liberals from the reddest red to the bluest blue so you live in a bubble.
Europe has much more protracted extremes.
Anywhere from supporters of Stalin to supporters of Hitler. I'm not saying this as some point of pride.

Oxford as such is a very privileged place. You won't find many leftists there. Lots of conservative-liberals like you and lots of other kinds of liberals is what you find.

>>12991205
Euros are lefty liberals you mongoloid. Americans are more egalitarian. Even the American globalist left are just emulating the euroshits.

>>12991205
Not sure if this is bait, or if you're just legitimately a retarded asshole.

>>12991162
>oxford
>jew and billionaire child day care for journalism degrees

>>12990925
Heh at first was like "oh shit was this some historical event like with Carthage where somebody declared that the polity of Rhodes must be destroyed?" but nah its just niggers whining about being retarded subhumans

>>12991367
>supposedly against racism, and white supremacy
>perpetrated by racist black supremacists on a handout

>>12991400
>racist
>black

No such thing. That's not how it works.

>>12991400
God willing the chimps will just massacre the Boers any day now so that faggot white sois will have no choice but to see the score and know what's good. Muh universalist egalitarianism yo excuse me whole I casually fantastically betray my tribe to satisfy my self-evidently silly moral vanity dude

>56 replies
>only 1 that resembles a recipe or is even tangentially related to gumbo
>rest is /po/ faggots and other loser bitching about muh liberals and race
We are doomed

>>12991603
Don't bring /po/ into this scumbag

>>12991421
>racism is permitted if you have less power than the people you’re attacking
Basically saying you’re not allowed to hit me back because you’re stronger. Figures the higher in estrogen blacks would take to such womanly philosophies

>>12991636
/pol/ has infected this site. You can't click any individual forum and go even a couple of pages deep with out some cheeto-sucking faggot expressing their degenerate views about kids, women, "lubruls," the environment, or literally anything important. As long as they can have 0 jobs, live on mommy's allowance, and meme about guns all day they're happy.

Fucking pathetic.

>>12991674
She didn't win get over it.

>>12991689
This is a fucking cooking board

>>12991689
>making my point and trying to act superior about it
I rest my case.

>>12991674
Advertising how mad you're getting will only get more people to see what trolls you. Posts like yours fed /pol/, you should have learned how the internet works before coming here.

>>12991696
>>12991702
>Off topic, but still smug

>>12991717
I resent that, I feel like they’re the trolls and we are making genuine points

>>12991717
So we should act like this thread wasn’t a cesspool or racist and incel vitriol completely unrelated to cooking that has been on the first page all day?

>>12991674
>/pol/ has infected this site!
>while saying nigger is against the rules
Never shy of hypocrisy are ya lefty

>>12991746
>image doesn't match post
Are you baiting, and reporting anons while trying to give the illusion that you're on topic?

>>12991763
I have never reported a post in the 11 years I have been on 4chan. A better question is why are you condoning this shit behavior and attacking me when I am trying to post gumbo related images?

>>12991787
Threads are dynamic anon, and a single post can change its focus.

>>12991802
So the inexorable change of topic to race and Jews and muh feminism is part and parcel of “board culture”? Doesn’t seem that dynamic to me if the simple relationship between gumbo and soul food causes a racial controversy.

>>12991823
Sure.
Do you have a problem with the posts, because they took you out of your comfort zone? It seems like an anon tried to steer it into one fictitious direction, but then other anons stopped it.

>>12991674
I defy you to find an example that is not provoked. Take a gander at the literal first response to the OP.

>>12991855
Believe me, this thread was the least surprising and most typical thread on 4chan that I’ve seen all day. It’s interesting that you can display the most vehement hatred on this site but the moment you try to say anything about it you are the angry one. The irony would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

>>12991868
>and most typical thread on 4chan that I’ve seen all day
Then why complain? Just move on to a better thread.

Can we just genocide all fucking white skins already?

>>12991874
I happen to really like gumbo and to see the track this thread has taken is disappointing and boring. I’m staying here because of the anons that are trying to justify what took place here.

>>12991859
Or this. >>12991881

>>12991885
>I happen to really like gumbo and to see the track this thread has taken is disappointing and boring
You seem to enjoy talking about your gripes, and using the thread as your vehicle for bitching instead of focusing on gumbo.

>>12991205
wrong on all counts

gumbo isn't fre-

>>12990572
Gumbo is borderline antisemitic.

Grow up.

>>12990780
Whites deserve it.

>>12991725
>feels like others are trolls
>feeds them
HOWCOULDTHISHAPPENTOME

>>12990572
>gumbo

If your friends are impressed by gumbo I would hate to see what they eat normally. Gumbo is overrated anyways.

>>12990755
I mean nig nogs stole southern cooking even, people attribute it to the darkies falsely it's retarded.

>>12991162
Oxford is very left wing.

what difference does the dark roux make, opposed to let's say a lighter roux?

>>12993012
Taste the roux once it's cooked for a while, you'll see. It develops a rich, nutty flavor. Light roux doesn't really taste like much at all.

>>12990572
I actually made gumbo tonight, kind of the 30 mins dinner.

Slice andouille in thick cut on the bias slices, browned both sides, in a little olive oil. Remove from pan, sweat your trinity (peppers, onions, celery), then push aside, to rendered fat, ladle out any extra, add butter and flour. Brown til nice dark roux. Deglaze with a little sherry. Add can of stewed tomatoes or whole tomatoes, breaking up the latter a bit. Tuck in bay leaf, thyme, marjoram, parsley, shake of cayenne. Tonight, I cheated, and I used frozen gumbo veggies (corn, okra, celery, peppers) that I sweated, and I like my sausage added back only in the last 10 mins of simmer.

Serve over jasmine rice or popcorn rice.

You can pass gumbo file powder, Tony Cachere's, and Louisiana hot sauce at the table.

I like to keep the gumbo seafood free, but you could add that. Tonight I had drop biscuits with it, which I make while the rice has that last 10 mins of steaming time, and a marinated avocado salad, but often I like to enjoy gumbo with fresh french bread and softened butter.

>>12993012
>>12993036
Dark roux has almost no thickening power vs lighter roux. It diminishes more and more as you cook it. So in a big batch you'll notice you're going to need a lot of dark roux if you switch, or you'll need to add some normal roux too.

>>12993071
>30 min gumbo

>>12990657
Who the fuck is putting lobster in gumbo? Stupid fucking northerners.

>>12993172
>Lobsters
That retard probably meant crawdads.

How do I keep my okra from getting all gummy and gooping up my gumbo? Just keep washing it till it's nothing but fiber?

>>12992931
Bingo. People attribute southern cooking to blacks because ut was the house slaves making dishes for their owners. The slaves didnt invent shit, they were tought recipes. The food they actually did make for themselves was chitlins and boiled weeds. I'll gladly eat some collards and cornbread but to think slaves invented creole or cajun dishes is ludicrous.

>>12990581
you're thinking of creole this is cajun made by french Canadians from Acadia

>>12992931
>>12993209
There's actually quite a bit of West African influence in Southern food, from the rice and other ingredients to the spices to the preparation method of various dishes. Please do try to keep your sub-80 IQ from influencing the quality of your posts, thank you.

>>12990900
That dudes gumbo looked like shit. Thin, soupy, way too much oil. And i don't know who told him that cajuns dont put sausage and seafood together, but thats false.

>>12993202
>gooping up my gumbo
It's natural thickening. It eventually cooks down, and frozen is less gumming. If you don't actually like gumbo,an okra based dish, then make something else, ya know? Jambalaya or red beans. If you are slicing okra fresh, the best thing you can do is use the stickiness to adhere simply fine cornmeal and pan fry them. Crunchy crispy, like popcorn, and makes a great topping to a homey dish.

>>12991009
What part of the south are you from? Cause that dudes a hack.

>>12993283
No, I like thick gumbo but whenever I use fresh okra it gives it the consistency of elmer's glue. I'm thinking maybe I should let it dry and saute it a bit instead of just throwing it in still damp from washing so it can keep some of texture without turning my gumbo into sticky goop that's a pain in the ass to eat.

>>12992705
Post a bouillabaisse recipe without seafood. I'll wait.

>>12993307
let them sit in warm/hot water after cutting them in half and removing the stem. add them at the end. they'll keep better texture that way also

>>12993086
>what is okra
>what is file

>>12993361
At the end, as in, the last few minutes of cooking the pot, around the time I add the filé?

>>12993250
Oh, we eat corn and potatoes too, guess that makes it indian food too don't it? Fucking retard.

>>12993415
Indian food? No. Food with Indian influence? Absolutely. I really hope you're not a native English-speaker because your comprehension of the language is poorer than a homeless Floridian hurricane refugee.

>>12993286
Hows your gumbo recipe friend? Let's see it

>>12991674
lol get trapped triggered more queer

>>12993549
Yeah, and gyoza is "food with French influence" because the Celts domesticated cabbage. Totally.

>>12993671
One part oil
One part flour
Cook til chocolate color
Fry green pepper, celery, onion in roux.
Add garlic
Add either shrimp or chicken stock
Bay leaves, thyme, cayenne, salt, pepper what ever else gets you goin.
Simmer for a while
Brown andouille and add it
Add shrimp, lump crab
Finish with file if you arent doing okra.
Serve over rice

Wa la

>>12993940
Forgot the image

>>12993930
Sure, if the Japanese got taught about cabbage by the Celts.
Who do you think we got corn from? Did you drop out of 1st grade too early to get to learn about the "first Thanksgiving?" What about rice? The most valuable slaves in the 18th Century were the ones with agricultural experience with rice and melons. There are only two places in the old world where okra and sorghum are traditionally cultivated, and we sure as hell didn't get either of them from India. Read a book or two about your own history, Cletus. Maybe you'll learn something.
Anyways it's Monday tomorrow, so good night. Try not to die of ice withdrawal in your sleep.

>>12993373
2 mins before pot is cooked. if you add rice to the pot instead of when serving then it should be fine to add a little earlier, but either way its the last part of the recipe I add. othewise they are too soggy.

>>12994005
Damn, I can really tell how virtuous and woke you are. You must've spent quite a long time unpacking your invisible knapsack. If only I could give your post the gold it deserves.

>>12993940
>>12993975
do you find the color is darker with shrimp stock and lighter with chicken stock?

>>12994064
The roux is going to be darker than either so it ends up looking about the same.

>>12990572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76JXtB7JFQY

So is gumbo actually amazing or just decadent slop

>>12994282
There's no need to mythologize it, but it's a pretty good stew.

>>12991674
Fuck off back to r*ddit retarded faggot

>>12991787
If you're crying and whining about RACISTS and MUH INCELS I really doubt you've been on 4chan for 11 years. But then again I guess that would have been 2008 at this point... take me back...
Please bros...

>>12994282
No food is "amazing". Save your hyperbole. But it's good, try and make some for yourself. You do like to cook, right anon?

>>12994282
Lots of seafood, what’s not to love?

Aussie here. It sounds like something i'd love to give a go but i'd like to know if i can use a crockpot/slow-cooker and also if i want to mix my own spices, what go into "cajun spices"? Would rather make from scratch instead of buying cajun seasoning and not knowing what's in it.

>>12995741
You couldn't cook the roux in the crockpot but you could prepare everything on the stove and transfer to the crockpot. Primary cajun spicing is thyme, bay leaf and cayenne pepper. Marjoram is sometimes used as well.

>>12995796
Awesome, cheers for the advice anon that's good to know. I'll deffs have to give it a try and i'll do my best not to bastardize it now.

>>12995830
Black things are used to being bastards I wouldn’t worry about it

>>12994005
Based retard

>>12995837
Based and redpilled post.

>>12995837
>>12997322
Literal samefag