/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12967901
stopped reading when you called flatbread a taco shell

>>12967907
Tortillas are flatbread.

>>12967901
this real nigga would say otherwise

>>12967901
What I’m about to say is likely retarded, but that should make it comprehensible around here. I had the occasionally dubious honor of traveling to the Middle East and eating their food in its natural habitat. While dying in a porta-shitter in a bazaar, I had an epiphany. Considering the Spanish were raped and pillaged by the Muslim world for a while right before they got into New World colonization, and also considering Mexican food takes cues from Spanish food, is it reasonable to say Mexican food rips off Arab food?

>>12967901
The core slop is so good that it's hard to get away from it other than to differentiate for the sake of it.

>>12967901
It’s really uneventful food. When I lived in the US, everyone kept going on about Baja Fresh or whatever it’s called so I got a whole lot of it at that food hall in Boston (whatever that’s called). Got back to eat and it’s basically all just a variation of largely unidentifiable slop on some kind of plain or crisped flatbread. Huge amount of fuss over fucking nothing. Think I binned most of it in the end. The one - burrito I think it was - looked like bean shit plopped in rice then covered up with flatbread toilet paper. It was then I realised, of course, that this is why they must be called ‘beaners’, although I myself much prefer the much more colourful ‘wetback’. One of them used to talk to me at the local ‘deli’ where he worked illegally. Nice chap. Gave me a great steak cooking tip once.

>>12967901
Because it's american food

>>12967901
>Most overrated pleb slop ever.
t. Never had real Mexican food

>>12968015

>>12968005
seems reasonable.

>>12968005
Retard

>>12968005
Not really because the spanish spent 500 years trying to wipe every last vestige of the Moores out of spain.

>>12968028
>>12968032
the duality of man.

>>12968011
lol baja fresh, do you always judge foreign foods by their chain restaurants?

Bongs don't get Mexican food. It's okay. Probably due to mercury poisoning from all the cod wrapped in filthy old newspaper they consume

>>12968034
A cursory look at Spanish buildings from that era and onwards shows what a shit job they did of it, and I guarantee they weren’t executing the spice racks for aiding the enemy.

Because US ruined Mexican food just like they did with chinese and italian

>>12967901
Yeah you forgot all the seafood and stuff like cactus but whatever, you’re just a faggot anyway.

>>12968044
Indian is Mexican for the Brits. Equally overrated: a bunch of overly spicy goop served with rice.

>>12968040
>>12968040
Oh, I’m sorry. Did I offend you, beaner? Of course, silly me, I forget the Americans source their Mexican food from all those well-known, non-chain outlets that pride themselves on ‘authentic’ Mexican cuisine - none of which includes things like ‘burritos’ or ‘tacos’ because they aren’t eaten by ‘real’ Mexicans at all.

>>12967921
corn tortillas aren't bread

>>12968044
You’re not allowed to wrap cod in newspaper under EU law.

>>12968056
But we improved italian...

>>12968065
>spicy goop served with rice
SOLD

>>12968065
Actually, most ‘curry’ here is Pakistani or Bengali. Actual Indian takeouts are rare.

>>12968067
no I get my mexican food from the mexican that sells them on the corner at 2AM, and mexicans absolutely eat burritos and tacos, maybe you're thinking of nachos.

>>12967927
This guys more mexican than i am. He owns a restaurant about 40min from where i live. I gotta check it out someday

>>12968140
yeah, tacos and burritos are Mexico's bread and butter.

>>12967927
Fuck me, whenever I see this guy, he makes my skin crawl. I don't know what it is, but he skeeves me out.

>>12968181
>burritos
no

>>12968140
No, maybe you are. Also, well done on your 2am adventures seeking salmonella.

México here, tortilla based dishes simply are more popular with the gringos. Other dishes like pozole, menudo, the many ways to prepare eggs and falvoured water are much better than your shit "burrito wraps".

That and we dont really eat burritos here, mostly tacos and menudo or birrea

>>12968191
oh the foreigner thinks he knows shit about mexican food because of his one jaunt to baja fresh in boston, you can't even get good mexican food east of the mississipi let alone in boston of all fucking places.

>>12968249
you got any good sopes recipes?

>>12967901
because we only share our street food with non-mexicans.
our real food is for mexicans only

>>12968242
Stay in your shitty country, wetback.

>>12968298
No need to get all pissy with me, mate. If you think it’s not ‘your’ food then feel free to take that up with those chains.

>>12967901
>Flat bread
Opinion discarded

>>12968328
Make me faggot

>>12968242
mexicunts talking about their food is objectively more insufferable than any other culture/ country talking about their food.

>>12968337
It's a worldwide tradition to blame the English and that's exactly what I intend to do

Better question is why yuppies won't shut the fuck up about it
>"omg yes I just couldn't live outside the city because then I couldn't eat my fresh tacos!!!"
>"I love our Mexican immigrants!!"
Every fucking time someone defends living on the city, they have to go on about tacos and immigrants.

>>12968068
Umm actually, Gordo Ramsay made taco shells out of tortillas so it's legit, okay sweaty?

>>12968370
uh, no sweaty

>>12968068
yes, they are.

>>12968298
Its mostly dependant in how you prepare the suace and the meat. Usually a standar meat youd use in a taco with a hand made sauce (idealy with a molcajete) turns out great. Dont have any specific recipies tho

>>12968351
fucking spic

>>12968373
that dumb motherfucker burned those fuckers on the stove, funniest thing I've ever seen.

>>12968077
>But we improved italian

Congrats, you discovered "Antojitos", now you can move to actual dishes

Shut the fuck up gringo there's liquid corn in half the shit you eat and fake cheese/cum make up the rest

>>12967901
New world has shit for crops

>>12969242
I don't think I've ever seen a more retarded post on /ck/ in 14 years

>>12968242
amricans insist on eating sloppy beans rice and meat with sour cream instead of actual Mexican food then go all HURR DURR WHY IS MEXICAN FOOD THE SAME

>>12969232
what is fake cum?

>>12968242
Most people here don't actually know about food, at least not outside of their countrys.

>>12968242
Menudo is so good.

>>12969398
if you take out the tripe maybe

>>12969402
That's the best part.

>>12969344
>amricans insist on eating sloppy beans rice and meat with sour cream instead of actual Mexican food then go all HURR DURR WHY IS MEXICAN FOOD THE SAME

>>12968011
What was the cooking tip?

>>12969407
no is gross

>>12967901
A tortilla its not flatbread.

>>12969418
FAT dumb USA citizens

>>12969555

It's rolled gold.

>>12969572
mexican food is below even burgers and french fries. its literally garbage food for a garbage country. just because mexicans put radishes in their tacos doesn't mean its not glorified street food.

>>12969598

You sound very American, and I'm Canadian, the most American you can be.

>>12967901
Flatbread? The fuck is wrong with you

>>12969607
Canadians are dollar store Americans

>>12969619

Not after Trumps tariffs. You're all entirely fucked Americans. And we still live better than you poverty fucks. Poverty, infrastructure collapse, enjoy becoming the next Soviet Union.

>>12969623
Uh huh. If America goes down you're going down ten fold. Just remember that.

>>12969643

I know that asshole. It's worse than the Dutch and the UK. I know you know nothing about global politics like the human sludge you are but I'm AWARE.

>>12969643

Sorry, I know you're dog brained stupid, I should have told you in a better way.

>>12969651
>>12969656
Sorry sweetie but I almost certainly know more than either of you troglodytes combined

>>12969643

Sorry I need to make it clear, Rotterdam and the UK have an insane level of traffic that will be destroyed because of Brexit. That's why a bunch of companies are moving from the UK to the Netherlands.

>>12969661

You just sound like a dumb poseur. Nothing you say carries weight. I think you know why.

>>12969669
How am I a poser friend?

>>12969431
its just chewy protein, but i have only eaten it in east asian dishes. i would like to try menudo.

>>12969681

You realize you're too stupid to talk to, right? You're probably a kid. No one involves children.

Mexican cuisine does not use any spices

>>12969705
>You realize you're too stupid to talk to, right? You're probably a kid. No one involves children.
dude you're not even making an argument you're just saying heh nothin personal kid

>>12969370
that stuff looks, and sounds good. im going to have to try it.

>>12969419
To fry the steaks quickly then finish them off in the oven. I know that’s probably standard for most of you but it’s the first time I’d been told that. He worked at the meat counter or whatever and would hold back really nice cuts for me. All banter aside, I really liked the guy.

>>12969697
so is gristle but you don't eat that shit either

>>12969960
tsk tsk tsk, if he only knew you were taking those cuts home to boil them in a vat of peas and slather them in mustard, what a shame.

>>12967901
I dunno but Mexican and Tex Mex food is based.

>>12969719

Yeah, and I'm sure you're aware the yield curve inverted a few months ago. But you think you know a goddamn thing. You're essentially human dogshit, and I spent time talking to you.

>>12969719

Its the bond yield curve, you fucking idiot.

>>12968360
Italians hold the title for insufferable food autism.

>muh tradition
>muh local ingredients
>muh exact adherence to meme rules (except when nobody's looking)
>muh muh mia

>>12970032
a steak is based
and while real mexican does have some good meat dishes there is too much garbage in the diet that makes them all look like goblins by 40

>>12967901
>take wheat and water and yeast
>mill it and mix together and put it in oven
>becomes bread
>take wheat and water and yeast
>ferment it and put it in barrell
>becomes beer
>take wheat and water
>mill it and mix it together and roll it out into thin noodles
>becomes pasta
>take wheat and water and yeast
>take it and layer it with butter
>becomes 10,000 different variations of puff pastry base
>take milk and rot it
>different sorts of spoilage creates millions of the same rotting milk product
Why is white food so repetitve?

>>12970051
>>12970060
yeah so I'm reading back through your posts here and I don't see fuck all of you mentioning "da looming global recession" just a bunch of nonsense about brexit which is irrelevant. well I guess it's not irrelevant to a colony nation like canada who really are the worst online denizens I gotta tell you, I think the only nation worse than you are the australians and they're not even people.

>>12970062
Japanese are just as insufferable except there's a weeb tinted glasses here
>ramen made anywhere else isn't ramen even though it's fucking chinese food stolen for a few generations
>god forbid you make alterations to sushi if you aren't japanese. If it's japanese it's the greatest innovation since sliced bread. Otherwise it's not authentic.
>the same fucking culture that smothers mayonnaise on fucking everything.

>>12970062
true true. even the masterchef judges get mega autistic whenever someone tries to do anything original with italian food

>>12970104

Yeah, brexit has nothing to do with the yield curve. Tell your fucking parents you were one of the idiots that didn't see it coming. You're a fucking child.

>>12970104

You live in a povertyville west virginia, don't you? You don't spend time with money. Right?

>>12970134
>>12970140
brexit doesn't matter to anyone or anything but europe and the english, it is irrelevant to global trading partners they can simply move out of the UK, it has no major effect on global markets when the UK is a service based economy services can simply pick and leave.

they are not a major player, and are easily replaced. the gdp of the UK is 2/3rds of California and 50% more than canada they only matter to specators the markets can easily adjust.

I would suggest you stop believing in the boogeyman that /biz/ is peddling or are you salty because your hodling of bitcoin got raped to death earlier today?

>>12970144

Because you don't understand The City of London and how it's a trading partner in the global market. The FTSE is a major market you fucking idiot. How the fuck do you live?

>>12970150
I understand it quite well in fact and how it can easily be replaced, although it may have held the largest amount of tax dodging financial companies at one point the global economy means that they can simply pick up and leave, and since the UK no longer generates anything close to a respectable gdp it's about time it lost the privilege of the FTSE all together and was reevaluated and readjusted to what it actually is, a defunct crumbling empire that doesn't deserve its financial status.

>>12970144

where'd you go, gimp?

>>12970161

jesus christ, I agree with you. the UK no longer sells tin and copper and they don't hold empire over anything. That notwithstanding what was our primary argument?

>>12970161

The funny thing is, America is in the same boat. They have Manhattan, and the rest of the country is poor.

>>12968005
Am a Moor (Moroccan)
Can see similarities, but mexican food is its own thing now. Like how American pizza is its own shit

>>12970176

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3208818f-76f5-480c-8e4c-5f563e136bc5

>>12970166
my primary argument was that you failed to communicate the yeild curve, bond adjustment, looming recession, et al. By simply mentioning brexit and you cannot expect others on the cooking board to simply understand what it is that you are trying to say that is my primary argument.

learn to talk more betterer

>>12970175
California has a double the GDP of manhattan I do not know why you would think otherwise, it is the 5th largest economy in the world, and those two combined only factor into $4.5 trillion out of the $22 trillion that makes up the US GDP the rest of the country is not poor by any means, although the people may be poor.

>>12970185

I'll talk "best" next time. It's like talking to a post.

>>12970189
I did make a post yes, that is what you are in fact talking to.

>>12970197

You're fucking awsome. for some reason.

>>12970201
well I'm not the original guy you called a moron

>>12970203

You're wonderful and I need to pee.

>>12970024
I never eat anything else with a good steak. Occasionally a very ripe sliced tomato but that’s about it. Mustard is for roast beef, not steak.

>>12970204
have fun norpal

>>12970205
you should try sauteed onions and mushrooms with your steak, salt, butter, and worchestire sauce, put it on some mash on the side.

>>12970144
That’s just categorically wrong. There are a number of reasons why the City will continue to attract global interest, not least of which being we have amongst the best courts to deal with contractual disputes. The common law is very lithe and flexible and these judges will prioritise the bargain above all; plus, of course, there’s the added bonus of the equitable jurisdiction to iron out any bumps on top of speciality courts like Admiralty for shipping. All of this the diametric opposite of the bureaucratic clumsiness of the cumbersome (shit tier) civilian systems. In fact, the little gnome, Macron, had a ‘cunning plan’ to set up a similar common law type court system in Paris for precisely this reason so as to attract investors because they know this.

That’s all fallen to shit, of course, but it’s a pretty good indicator of just how important that factor is. There are many, many benefits to Brexit, but amongst the best of them will be the resurgence of the common law and especially when it comes to contract and so on. A lot of interesting judgments coming over the next ten years or so as we steadily flush the roman cancer.

>>12970219
Oh, yeah, that sounds really good, actually. I’ll remember that for next time, thank you. My general approach to steak is to buy good cuts and not interfere with them too much.

>>12970220
I was going to say, some countries would simply try to import the court system to court those companies as it were, Paris burned for it of course because that's all Paris seems to do these days.

Tacos are by definition a tortilla with any meat sauce filling or whatever on it
Also morden mexican tacos and texmex tacos are authentic

>>12970224
yeah you really only have to salt and pepper on a good cut of steak (use worchestire sauce as a secret ingredient just before flipping) and use an oil you like to get a good crust, the thing is, oven finishing is really only for thick cuts of steak not the quality of the cut. you take a 1/4 inch steak you can do it in a cast iron no problem anything bigger you gotta stick it in the oven.

here you want another tip, for really thick cuts put it in the pan when it's a little cold not room temp, also salt it like a half out before you cook it with flaky salt, then blot the hell out of it so the surface is really dry before putting it in the pan. this will allow the steak to absorb the salt all the way into the center of the cut through osmosis, and pepper it just before putting it into the oven not in the pan.

>>12970225
Well, it just fails out the gate because you’ve got a ‘common law’ system within a civilian French surrounded by EU ‘law’ generally. It’ll just be a fucking mess of instability. For someone who wants solid court backup on a deal, a choice between ours (solid, well-established, able to adapt and evolve to keep the bargain, etc.) and some puppet Parisian common law ‘court’ that will always be vulnerable to the bigger jurisdictions around it is an easy choice to make. I’d like to see them try, though. I’d go over and sit in on them just for the entertainment value.

>Red Mole Pasties
>Duck in pumpkin seed sauce
>Scallop in a soy/lime/pepper marinade
>Stuffed pepper in walnut sauce
>Spit pork tacos in pita flatbread
>Fish in tamarind sauce
>roasted goat in tomato/pepper sauce
yeah so similar

>>12970248
he don't forget the ceviche

>>12970241
Yeah, that’s exactly what he said, actually. He’d reserve big, thick fillets for me and we got to discussing how I cook them one day when he then told me this. First time I tried it, I was really impressed so I still do any cut like that the Dane way. I like my meat the rarer side of medium rare so I find it much easier to get it that way. I rarely eat thinner steaks - the UK is not very good on steak eating generally and most packaged steaks in our supermarkets are just too thin. By the time you’ve seared, the whole thing is cooked through and tastes like shit.

Anyway, really good tips again, cheers. Do you put salt on before frying? I was always under the impression that’s a no-no but happy to be corrected.

>>12968184
Hes fucking great.

>>12968362
Objectively, an excellent burn. Well played.

I’m not being serious, really. I was always of the view it wasn’t the style of food, but just ‘Baja Fresh’ that was shit. I’m quite sure actual Mexican cuisine is much more interesting and tasty.

>>12970260
I always salt them a half hour before putting them in the pan and then blotting them, as I said before what this does is allow the salt to be absorbed into the center of the steak through osmosis because as the moisture is pulled out and evaporates the salt is pulled into the center.

>>12970272
baja fresh is only good for fish tacos

>>12970274
Ok, I’m going to try this. I’ve got a nice thick rib cut I’m planing on consuming over the next couple of days.

So, salt it with ground salt, wait half an hour, then blot - does that not just wipe the salt off, though? Or do you mean basically pushing it into the surface? I must say I do find salting after isn’t that great and I do like a bit of salt for flavour so this is very interesting to me.

>>12970277
It wasn’t good all round. It just seemed careless and indifferent. It didn’t even look like their own menu photos. Just a shit takeaway, basically.

>>12970285
Not him but Fish Tacos are one of the easiest things to make. It's just a beer/mustard battered fish in a tortilla. You could easily make better ones at home

>>12970278
it wipes off the excess salt, most of it will be absorbed you'll notice after a half hour that the salt has basically disappeared, I haven't done this with ground salt only flaky salt so I can't say how well that's gonna work, just don't use table salt. you don't push it into the steak just blot it to get the moisture off the surface or it won't crust properly.

>>12970292
this true you just need cabbage and some cojita and sauce and you're good, maybe some tomato

>>12970292
I’ve never actually made a taco. We have ‘taco kits’ sold in our supermarkets here and I occasionally look at them but they honestly just look crap. The whole thing. Other than that I don’t think I’ve ever eaten one. That takeout that day was I think burritos and enchilada maybe; I can’t honestly remember other than I thought the tacos wouldn’t make the journey back to the flat intact. We also have ‘tex mex’ restaurants here but, again, they just look crap. No shade on Mexicans or their food - I just don’t think they’d be any good and largely because it isn’t Mexicans or even Americans making it. I mean, I wouldn’t eat English food made by, say, some Russian in Moscow for precisely the same reasons.

I guess I’ll just have to wait until I go to California one day. Maybe I’ll include a trip to Citadel de Juarez (god, I love that name). Have a genuine Mexican meal, look at the decapitated bodies, have a margarita by the sea - that kind of thing.

>>12970293
Ahhh, I see what you mean now. Sorry, I’m being slow. Ok, excellent; I follow. Salt, leave for half an hour, then blot. Got it. Great tip, man, thank you. I’ll chuck up a thread when I cook it just to give a report back on this. Thank you very much, indeed.

>>12970315
you leave the resort they'll kill you

mexican food is stupid easy to make btw, especially tortillas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37UuNxrF5ag

>>12968068
Is cornbread bread? Don't think to hard about this one.

>>12970323
cool lemme know if it works and don't clean that pan when you rest your steak, you saute your onions and mushrooms in that shit with some butter.

>>12970343
Ok, cool. I might make that mash you suggested to go on the side, actually. I’ll put it all up as a thread probably Friday or Saturday. Thanks again, very much, friend. Very, very helpful indeed.

>>12970360
if you wanna get crazy make mashed sweet potatoes with butter and rosemary

>cut it up and fry it: chips
This is actually american made, like the fortune cookie.

>>12970335
Fuck that. I hate resorts. I’m having an adventure.

Also, wow, this looks really straightforward, thank you. I might try this. So, is it just any corn flour or should I get a specific kind? We have corn flour here, it’s just quite fine from what I remember. Also, does she grease that skillet at all? I couldn’t work out what they were saying. And also, so what’s a taco then? Just basically a fried and shaped tortilla?

But yeah, based. I had no idea it was that easy. Thanks. I’ve bookmarked that.

>>12970365
Well, I’ll keep that in mind, thank you, as that sounds excellent too. Sweet potato tends to come and go out our supermarkets, though, so I may not be able to find any. I’ll remember that, though, thank you. Both ways sound utterly delicious.

>>12970343
One other question: how long would you suggest the oven time is? I usually just eyeball it which usually works but I always prefer rarer than medium rare so it can occasionally go over what I prefer. Just interested if there’s some sort of way you know to gauge.

>>12970372
to basically there are 3 types of tortillas, the ones in this video are a little thick but they're just fine corn flour and water, and you cook them on a dry skillet.

the second kind are really thin and you fry them hell in corn oil same recipe make em small and you got street tacos if they're crispy your fried it to much

the third are for taco shells you make them as thin or thick as you like within reason, cook them like above, and then you shape them on whatever you have that's taco shaped and fry them so they keep the shape.

>>12970385
all ovens are different I couldn't begin to tell you cuz I don't know your oven and I don't know how thick the steak is. you have to know your equipment if you can eyeball it then you're fine.

>>12968095
Literally no difference

>>12970390
Ah, this is so interesting. I’ve screen grabbed this post, too. Very helpful, thanks. I’m going to try it. What’s a good ground beef filling to put in? Like, what would be something someone Mexican would do with tortillas (in any form) and ground beef? I love anything with that.

>>12970394
Yeah, fair enough. That makes sense. I’ll just do the usual then, thanks, bud.

>>12970425
If you eat pork then just make carnitas. Top tier and cheap to make.

>>12970411
There’s a massive difference, however, because Pakistani and Bengali dishes are sauce-based while Indian curry is all about method. Most takeaway here is just the sauce they pre-cook then chuck meat into as they go along. There are some dishes that are similar but certainly not the majority of them.

>>12970427
I’m not a fan of pork, unfortunately, but I’ve heard this word before. I could just use the same method for any meat, right?

>>12970425
basically this, it's the most generic street taco recipe, get some limes to squirt on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QJ8y5GxLs

>>12970431
eh no, not really, when you're in california get yourself some tacos de lengua (tongue) you really can't beat the taste.

>>12970431
carnitas are slow cooked and seasoned, ground beef in tacos is texmex not mexican, you can do texmex if you there's no shame in it.

>>12970435
Ok, I’ll remember, thanks.

>>12970453
Alright. Well, if I’m doing it, I want to do it properly so pork it is. Cheers.

>>12970477
you can do tacos al carbon as well you know

>>12970432
God, this looks fucking delicious. So straightforward, too. I’m definitely making this when I do my tortillas. I’m making this and then watching those Sicario films. Might actually get all this from supermarket today. Wow. Thanks so much for posting that.

>>12970481
Yeah, I replied to those before I looked at the vid. Don’t know if I can get a cut exactly like that but I’ll find something close enough. Gonna make tortillas tonight for sure.

>>12970477
i usually got a good cut of pork shoulder and marinate it in lime juice, fresh cilantro, cayenne, smoke paprika, ancho chili, and sometimes cocoa powder, along with salt pepper, garlic, onions. then i use an instant pot and cook w water for 3-4 hours, take them out, put them in a large dish and roast in oven for 30 min. shred and serve with anything you want.

>>12970483
>>12970484
no problemo, like I said most mexican food is stupid easy to make

>>12970483
get yourself some decent hot sauce as well

>>12970499
fuck that. just make your own

>>12970514
this shits like a buck 50 and everyone uses it

>>12970487
Screen grabbed as well. Many thanks. That looks very doable even for a pleb like me. Thanks, man.

>>12970499
Ah, the one on the left we get here, actually. I remember that woman on the front well. Will pick up a bottle today, cheers.

>>12970514
Small steps. I’m someone who’ll likely burn all the tortillas on my first go, so I need to pace myself.

You guys have been awesome, thank you again so much. I look forward to becoming at least passably good at at least a good tortilla so I can at least not embarrass myself totally when I eventually get to Mexico.

>>12970524
two things you should know about mexico, don't drink the water, and don't get real horchata if don't wanna embarrass yourself.

>>12970536
Understood. No drinking anything other than neat tequila. Think I can manage that. Hope the women are ready for all this awesomeness that’s going to cross that border.

>>12970536
Do yourself a favor and go to Baja California if you plan on going to Mexico. There's good food everywhere there.

>>12970544
I love this word ‘baja’. ‘Baja California’ has always sounded so exotic and amazing. Not the place, necessarily - just the term. It suggests vast open skies and horizons. Bit like ‘the Rio Grande’. But yeah, cool. I’ll note that, thank you. I’ve planned a road trip for the longest time that is basically Los Angeles north along the Pacific highway through Big Sur (another massively evocative term for me) so extending south of it seems a really good idea, too. Damn. I really want to do a road trip with based /ck/ bros now.

>>12970540
you could put the horchata in the tequila or rum that'll keep it from giving you the squirts or them pranking you, you might also wanna grab a coca cola to keep your liver from dying. there's like 18 different kinds or horchata some pass through digestive systems, some of it is fermented, most of it is fine though but because it's made with lots of water you probably wanna put it in some alcohol

>>12970556
Oh, and just to say this ^ is why I went to Baja Fresh to begin with. Everyone recommended it but it was mainly just because of that word. It’s like a turquoise word with lots of sunshine around it. Very appealing.

>>12970558
Ah, ok. I’ve got to be honest, I don’t find the idea of it very appealing but if I was offered it, I’d definitely try it so that’s helpful, thanks.

>>12970556
>>12970569
well that's a 6 hour drive along PCH but there's lots of stuff to see between, little tourist cities and whatnot. If I were you though I'd really take the time to go to Sequoia National Park or Yosemite first, then over to Big Sur and then down through Los Angeles. The visuals are far more spectacular than Big Sur I promise you.

Regular Horchata is rice milk, vanilla, cinnamon, and sugar, it's really great stuff, get it in Los Angeles, you won't get the weird ones there.

>>12970431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttzQYPudnN0
If you don't like Pork here's a good recipe for meatballs

>>12968005
rips off is too much
influenced origin that branched off

>>12970582
Grabbed again, cheers. Man, you guys are brilliant. Which way should I go first? North or south to Mexico? I’ll land in LA and get a car from there. Next spring I’m hoping for. And ok, gotcha on the Horchata, thanks.

>>12970600
Fucking hell, this looks so, so, so good. That’s like my dream meal in a pot. Much better than the Italian variation of this. My only problem is getting hold of those peppers - I can’t think of anywhere here that would have something like a chipotle. Anyway, I’ll try.

Thanks for that. Very pleasant, woman, by the way. Seems like a really nice lady.

>>12970642
alright so I'm gonna suggest something that sounds stupid but I think it's really your best bet to see everything properly.

Fly into LAX, get some rest, grab a car and drive up to Sequoia National Park first, this will take you through the deserts and the valleys, the high deserts and through the grapevine, don't do this in the winter or it will be snowed out. This will take you about 4 hours and you will tons of different topography even the the oil fields of Bakersfield (good fossil hunting here if you're interested but it's a super smoggy and hot as balls part of the state).

Stay in Sequoia for a few days (there's bears here) and then head up to Yosemite, this will be another 3 hour drive and stay a few days.

Make your way west across the state to Big Sur this will be 4 hours of driving, stop and get some rest, not much to do in big sur but you can hang out at the beach and bum around and then start making your way down PCH back to Los Angeles, this will take you along the beach, lot's of stops you can make on this trip, and get good food and look at cool shit, weird little towns you can stop at as well like Solvang although it's a detour but it's worth it so see a Dutch town in America.

And yeah that's it, if you wanna keep going you can go down to San Diego and try their Mexican food it is different from Los Angeles and go all the way into Tijuana, NorCal Mexican food is an afront to god don't even fucking bother.

>>12970682
Wow.

> this post

Ok, done. I’m doing all that. Capped. So, basically over, up, back down again and then to Mexico. Sold. I actually never plan trips much and prefer to book hotels as I go along but this seems a really good approach. Also, I fucking love grizzly bears so I hope that’s what you mean by ‘bear’ (Black is fine, too). And yeah, spring time as I’m not good with the heat.

Thank you, based Ameri/Mexi friend. Just know that somewhere out there next year, there’s a bumbling Englishman driving around using your posts as his itinerary. If you hear of someone like that being kidnapped in Juarez, pls send a good word for me.

>>12970662
what she's using to grind is a molcajete, see if you can order from this website

https://www.mexgrocer.com/9649.html

>>12969242
New world has some great crops, it's just that colonists were retarded and stopped them from being farmed.

>>12970698
California Grizzly bears are extinct my dude and you do not want to come across a Grizzly in the wild, ever, they can take 7 shotguns to the face and still come at you at 35MPH if you really want to see one go to Alaska, in California you'll get brown bears and black bears.

Black bears are harmless, they scare super easy, brown bears do not, stay the fuck away from them, and beware of mountain lions.

Mountain Lions also sound like a woman getting murdered, if you hear this at night that's what it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxo8X5uIWRE

Also, Bakersfield has two seasons, summer and FUCK YOU IT'S SUMMER! By which I mean it's 100 degrees at 1AM so try not to stay there, you can stop there if you want for food whatever, bring some sunscreen...

Also I forgot to mention, if you're heading down to San Diego and then to Mexico you can stop in Palm Springs and go up the tramway for a day, it won't really compare to Yosemite or Sequoia but it's neat to see the desert below you where it's 110 degrees and you're having a grand ol' time at the top of the mountain where it's 60 degrees. If you're gonna do that bring your own food, also you ever watch Pee Wee's Big Adventure where he stops at the tourist trap The Cabazon Dinosaurs? That's also on the way if you wanna throw away $13 and climb inside a giant T-Rex.

>>12970700
Doesn’t look like they ship to the U.K., sadly. Happily, though, it looks like I could be able to order the guajillo peppers from here:

https://www.mestizomarket.com/food/chillies.html?p=2

Doesn’t have the chipotle dried though. Is the jarred or tinned ok?

>>12970745
chipotles in adobo sauce should be fine although not quite the same it's an ok substitute

>>12970723
Saved again, thanks, man. I knew that about California grizzlies (real shame) but for some reason I thought they’d been reintroduced at Yellowstone. Actually, one of my other top 5 places to go eventually is Brooks Falls at Katmai to see the grizzlies but that’ll have to be another trip altogether unfortunately.

Cheers for the mountain lion clip; very helpful. I plan to stay in hotels and motels mostly but knowing me, I fully envisage breaking down and being stranded on some remote road in some god forsaken forest or something eventually. I’m definitely going to invest in bear spray anyway. From what I know, people think it’s only grizzlies but actually black bears can be pretty dangerous, too. Mountain lions never simply occurred to me so that’s a good shout.

Screen grabbed all the rest too. So unbelievably helpful, thank you. I’ll make sure to stop off at both Bakersfield and the dinosaur, and Palm Springs has always again sounded so evocative so definitely adding that, too. Thanks man, I seriously owe you a lot of beers.

>>12970749
Alright, done. Can you look through that while the link’s there and think of anything else you think it would be good to get? Sorry, it’s just if I order, I’d rather do one big shop.

They’ve got that specific corn flour in the first video for the tortillas so I’m wondering if it’s not better just to buy this at the start:

https://www.mestizomarket.com/food/flour.html

>>12970745
https://www.mexgrocer.co.uk/home.php

>>12970758
pro tip, the townies in Palm Springs are super easy if you're lookin' to get your dick wet stop off at any bar or barcade.

>>12970762
Oh, good find! They’ve got that dried chipotle I think.

https://www.mexgrocer.co.uk/Chipotle-Morita-Chilli-Dried-40gr.html

Excellent. I also might get one of those mortar and pestles she used. That looks very useful.

>>12970765
Don’t they all have herpes in California? I’m sure I read that somewhere once.

>>12970761
yeah just grab the cheapest shit that's what everyone uses

>>12970758
just don't leave food in your car or bears will rip it to shreds, most rentals have onstar now so if you break down you should be just fine, just press the button and someone will come out to get you.

>>12970771
I don't, just wear a condom and don't make out with chicks with bleeding sores on their face, also they're easy because everything shuts down at 2-5PM in that town cuz it's so damn hot there's nothing to do but fuck and drink and eat.

>>12970723
Sorry, by the way. I didn’t mean to contradict you on black bears. What you say is right - they’re infinitely easier to chase off but I wouldn’t want to take my chances with them, anyway. In fact, I’m a fucking cuck and would likely bottle hiking anywhere on my own if I knew there was any kind of bear around.

>>12970777
don't worry there's tons of people at these places and the rangers provide guided tours and hikes it's only if you go off camping alone you might run into some kind of issue.

>>12970775
>>12970775
Is that the giveaway? Sores on their mouths? I’d rubber up anyway but I definitely don’t want that shit.

And ok, cool - I’ll just grab whatever looks good. I’ll use the other site anyway as it has those peppers.

Also, yup, I know a little about bear hygiene and to keep food very secure. I also didn’t know that about a call thing in cars so that’s also useful. I want a manual transmission though so I hope those are still being rented.

Fuck, it’s going to be amazing. When I go, I’m definitely doing a road trip thread on here of all my culinary and other adventures.

>>12968011
>baja fresh is my opinion
Aight but that's just a terrible example

>>12970784
Ok, cool. I’m taking bear spray anyway. I fucking love bears but I’ll be fucked if I ever want to chance across one without something to hand.

>>12970798
Yeah, it was just them. Happy to concede that. That post is just my dismal attempt at ‘banter’.

>>12970795
good luck renting a manual, there's like a 1 in a million chance of that happening.

here's herpes mouth, not gonna post a pic on a cooking board of some soars but feel free to click on it https://www.todaysrdh.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Oral-Herpes.png

>>12968242
Two of my good friends were Mexican and Colombian and I stayed over for dinner a lot. They never ate what I expected. Tons of seafood and pasta so I never complained. I couldn't name most dishes but I knew there's more to it than just tortillas and stuffings.

>>12970799
oh you know what if you love bears go to the san diego wild safari park and zoo they're world famous for good reason and you'll get to see them up close.

>>12970817
Oh fuck. Ok. And if they don’t have that it’s not transmissible otherwise, right? Sorry, I know I should probably google this but you seem like you know everything California anyway.

If I don’t have a manual rental, I’ll just fucking buy one. Under no circumstances am I doing that elite caliber of road trip in an automatic. Fuck that.

>>12970823
Yes! I knew that about San Diego zoo - that it’s the best in the world so yeah, definitely adding that.

>>12970799
>Mum, it’s not hurting any more. I don’t feel the pain. Forgive me for everything, I love you so much.

>>12970828
lol ok you can grab an old manual mini, no herpes are stupid easy to transmit, they just have to touch a surface and then you touch a surface sometime later then touch anywhere on your body that produces mucus and now you have herpes, I've never gotten it, just wash your hands if you're super nervous about it if you do get it you can get over the counter medicine for cold sores, cuz guess what cold sores are herpes.

what you really don't want is genital herpes which can also infect you in places that aren't your genitals, just be careful and you'll be fine, also watch out for the clap that shits everywhere if you get it go to a free std clinic america might have shit healthcare but we don't fuck around with STD's you can get those meds for free.

Reddit fucking gold. Take my upvotes you magnificent bastards! Screencapped! :3


Faggiest fucking posters itt than I have seen in a while. Really managed to turn a shitposting thread about Mexican food into an exercise in homosexuality. Good job.

>>12970832
Yeah, I’m a great big girls blouse. Can’t deny that. In fact, it’s good Americans know that a mountain lion screams like a woman because I’ll be somewhere about an octave higher if I ever come across one of them or a bear.

>>12970842
Ugh. No. I think I’ll just go without. And yeah, it’s genital herpes I worry about. Good tips, though, thanks, man. And yes, I’ll buy some shit car probably. Don’t know if it’s true still but it used to be a thing here that if you went to the US for a road trip you were actually just better off buying some kind of sixth hand out a dealership when there then selling it back or just junking it when done. Like I say, though, don’t know if that’s now or ever was the case.

>>12970102
>>take wheat and water
>>mill it and mix it together and roll it out into thin noodles
>>becomes pasta
what?

>>12970898
yes that is how pasta is made

>>12970882
Buying a car in California is a little tricky you need insurance and it has to be registered and you need plates and tags otherwise you’re fine to whatever junker you want, grab a salvage title bmw for cheap if you want.

>>12970898
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasta_processing

>>12970922
Ok, well I’ll look into it. Thanks again so much for all the tips, man. Much appreciated. Like I say, next year when you hear about an Englishman being killed by a bear/beheaded by some cartel/or being mugged and left for dead in Palm Springs, take pleasure in the fact that it’ll be your posts the police will find on my phone as they photograph my corpse.

>>12970905
Pasta is eggs and flour.

You're not buying pasta in the supermarket like a pleb, are you?

>>12970935
I don’t actually think it’s possible to get mugged in Palm Springs, oh and it is a super gay town btw just be aware of that like super super gay with lisp gay.

>>12968068
Made with corn *flour*. Corn is a grain. It's bread.

>>12967901
I hate Mexicans and all the other beaners with all of my soul

>>12970957
>pasta is eggs and flour
That's egg noodles

>>12970989
No. Pasta is made with flour, egg and salt.

>>12967901
The big question is, why is /ck/ so repetitive?
> Constant useless fast food threads
> Frog-posters that add nothing to the board
> Lack of OC, there are people here that do that, it doesn't happen enough.
> Shills like Jollibee and McDonalds are allowed here, shamelessly
> /pol/ leaking in here and giving their useless fucking opinions on shit they don't even care about, just to shit this place up.

Seriously, this place has gone to shit in the last couple of years.
It is a food and cooking board, not a place for every autistic child to show how high test they are.
For fuck sakes, grow up.....

>>12971033
That’s site wide not just /ck/

>>12970996
That's egg noodles

>>12971067
NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!!!

>>12971080
it is tho

>>12969724
It’s amazing. Good luck anon.

Fuck all the racists itt

>>12968077

>>12970758
hey I live in Palm Springs, it's all meth heads and depressed desert dwelling folks. Oh and gays, tons and tons of gays.

>>12969598
Imagine being this ass blasted because you cant handle spice

>>12968242
This

>>12969202
Whats the difference?

>now you can move to actual dishes
Like?

>>12969598
true

>>12970248
Do average Mexicans actually eat this or is this something you'd find in high end restaurants?

>>12971399
That’s Indio

>>12970556
Baja is Swedish for poop. Just saying.

>>12971606
They're all regional dishes you can find in non high end restaurants

>>12967901
>salsas, veggi+fruit mixes, etc

its fucking islander food before flatbread added a containment, and you can say that about indian food

>>12971900
What are the names of those dishes in Spanish? I want to look them up.

>>12971606
They actually eat it.

That’s like someone assuming that all Americans eat is burgers and hotdogs, then asking if stuff like meat loaf and green bean casserole is gourmet.

>>12971895
You are insulting ReviewBrah by insinuating he blasts poop.

>>12971961
Reviewbrah is trash because he eats trash

>>12967901
What most people consider Mexican food is actually Tex-Mex. Real, authentic Mexican food is what gives you the runs.

>>12970248
birria tatemada
pato en mole verde
aguachile de callo de hacha
tacos arabes
pescado en salsa de tamarindo
chile en nogada
pastes pachuquenos

>>12972558
>>12971928

>>12972558
>>12972560
Thanks

>>12970960
Classic Tortillas are made with Nixtamal, not flour.

>>12971606
one thing about mexico is that their high end restaurants are cheap compared to us. if you're in san diego and want a great dining experience you're better off crossing the border to tijuana

>>12967901
because its all beans rice and corn LOL

>>12967901
I like Taco Bell, voted most authentic Mexican food in the US!

>>12970020
>he doesn't eat his gristle

Mexican food is mainly simple stews/soups with a lot of corn based dishes, a bit of complex mole sauces and a bit of seafood dishes.

9/10 cuisine overall

You gotta figure out new and creative things to make and do with the same basic shit you have available to you. It's fucking mexico, man. It's a god damn desert. You eat what you got and thank haysus christo you got even that.

>>12973766
>Mexico
>Desert
retard

>>12973773
40% of mexico is desert. Almost HALF of the country is useless.

>>12973797
Mexican desert is full of life. I live in northern Guanajuato and we make ice cream with the different fruits that grow in the cacti and trees.

>>12973833
Enjoy picking the spikes out of your mouth.

>>12973843
You're not supposed to stuff the whole cactus in your mouth, dumb sharter. You pick the fruit first.

>>12973833
Borrachita ice cream is great, it's a little bit acidic and contains some alcohol.

>>12973833
>>12973858
Hi wanna be my Mexican boyfriend?

>>12973908
I already have a bf

>>12973931
Do either of you have a brother?
Asking for a friend.

/ck/ trip to oaxaca when

>>12973945
Someone pick me up in Northern OC I'd do this.

>>12973936
No, slut.

But today I ate camarones en crema de chipotle y arroz blanco. Yummy.

>>12973976
Stop hogging all the good food or I'll convince trump to impede your country so you'll have to let me immigrate there now.

>>12973976
That's actually good. Would be perfect with a consomme de camaron and fish ceviche tostadas

>>12973976
all those syllables to say 'pepper sauce shramp wif rice'

and FYI beaners call every sauce SALSA not 'crema' you faggot larper. go back to practicar Spanish dialectal you loser, I hope you get stabbed by a greasy spic who is half lebanese.

>>12973976
>>has rice. needs an entire loaf of buttered burnt bread

wow great restraunte hombre

>>12974018
I'm a Mexican-Mexican born, raised and living in México and a crema is a dairy based salsa. Just like crema de calabacita, crema de poblano or crema de flor de calabaza.

>>12974028
yeah well mexican food sucks i'm all about that peppino sauce, chimmi churi, arepes, pupupsas, empanadas, puerco mojo, etc.

all non mexican food south of the border. my grandparents were german born mexicans who moved to yuctan and make xohaka. im american in LA yes.

>>12973976
no troll, good job, good thread and you're good.

>>12967927
Is that a photoshopped Canelo to make him look older?

>>12974038
Mexico literally has all of that and more

>>12967901
>take bread
>put sauce on it: spaghetti
>put sauce and cheese on it: pizza
>put sauce cheese bread sauce cheese bread sauce cheese bread on it: lasagna
>put sauce and cheese IN it: ravioli

why is Italian cuisine so repetitive?

>>12968011
>OY I WAS IN AMERICA BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT: the post
Eat a bullet, limey.

>>12969353
ask ur mum lmao

>>12967927
based rick gayless will spit some fucking hot fire about mexican food

>>12970338
>bread
>/bred/
>noun
>food made of flour, water, and yeast or another leavening agent, mixed together and baked.

Corn tortillas are made out of masa, which is made from corn, and water. Some may have a little salt. There is no yeast or other leavening agent.

Cornbread is a wheat flour base with the addition of cornmeal. It contains gluten and requires a leavening agent (usually baking powder).

Corn tortillas are not bread, no.

>>12974170
>Corn tortillas are made out of masa
Masa is Spanish for dough, you idiot, any dough.

The DOUGH for corn tortillas is made out of CORN FLOUR.

>>12968005
Tacos al pastor my friend.

>>12974038
Yeah right Mr. German. But all those things exist in Mexico with other names or a little bit different. All countries in Latin America have empanadas for example.

>>12970431
Slow cook some other cuts of beef, beef cheeks are my personal favourite but anything with a little more connective tissue and fat should work great plus these cuts tend to be cheap so that's another bonus.

>>12973931

>>12967927
This fag talks about heating shit in microwaves
Proof he is not mexican and is of suspect credibility

>>12974355
He has done more for Mexican food than you will ever in your lifetime, faggot

>>12974355
What would make him Mexican? Heat things in a pit fire?

>>12968005
>What I’m about to say is likely retarded, but that should make it comprehensible around here. I had the occasionally dubious honor of traveling to the Middle East and eating their food in its natural habitat. While dying in a porta-shitter in a bazaar, I had an epiphany. Considering the Spanish were raped and pillaged by the Muslim world for a while right before they got into New World colonization, and also considering Mexican food takes cues from Spanish food, is it reasonable to say Mexican food rips off Arab food?
Would Spanish prefer Arab dishes vs Spanish
Or
Would mexicans prefer Arab dishes over mexican ones
Would mexicans want Spanish foods over mexican stuff
I'm going to say nobody is asking for arab anything least of all Spanish and even more moreso when talking about mexicans

>>12974364
>>12974371
Fuck that oakie such a tryhard
He should join his brother Covering shitty NY Jets games

>>12974436
>Congrats to Rick Bayless, who was evidently as surprised as anybody when he learned he had been awarded Mexico’s highest honor for non-Mexicans, the Order of the Aztec Eagle. The acclaimed Frontera chef joined a San Diego-based scholar, Wayne Cornelius, and Deborah Szekely, founder of the culturally and environmentally-activist spa Rancho La Puerta in Baja California, as the three Americans honored, in his case for his work in promoting understanding of Mexico’s cultural and social heritage through his cookbooks and TV program Mexico: One Plate at a Time.
Get fucked.

>>12968062
Is eating cactus impressive? Nigger grow a real vegetable

>>12974453
There are all kinds of edible cacti

>>12974443
>>12974443
You make me laugh
Mexicans gave him a what
Hilarious what was it a bunch of white business owners ready to get rich off of tourist, you wish you have a clue about reality but just so it's clear Mexico does not work that way, in fact it does not work in any kinda of way, except ... well that's another story
All remains as it was faggot
Enjoy eating a dick

>>12974485
Imagine getting so butthurt over someone as based as Rick Bayless. Stay mad you'll never have Mexicans bend over for you like they do for Rick

>>12974496
I'm white but I'm also mexican
My dad is white but is also mexican
My grandfather was white but also mexican
Being mexican does not exclude you from being mexican because you are from Spainish heritage like my family actually is
My family hates mexicans even when being mexican because we are white and have the wherewithall to be able to get away with it
Maybe due inpart to the gains from tequila or other basically mexican products
Whites have so much control over so many corners of Mexico it basically apartheid without the it seeming so
With all that being said you want to think dumb shit easily found with a quick websearch
Like I said you make me laugh

>>12974553
>Moro
>White
Nice try, abdul.

>>12974561
Blonde hair
Blue eyed
Ohh wait that's not all
Why bother
How mad

>>12974574
>Spaniards
>White
mis lados

>>12974553
assblasted mexicans are a sad sight, they can't take banter gracefully, they are american tier.

Mexicans are double rape babies and we dont like to bully them.
t.arab

There's so many influence of other cuisines in Mexican food that it's practically impossible for it to not be diverse

>>12974205
That makes playdough bread by your logic.

>>12974825
Yeah
For sure
Who else would want a lettuce wrap for a rice and avocado taco with ginger, cucumber and horseradish as spicy salsa

>>12967927
>milk mustache

>>12974918
Japanese tacos already exist and they are from Ensenada

>>12974933
Perfect tourist destination right after rosarito

>>12974933
japanese have a weird chicano fetish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8bMLcCxxAA

>>12967901
>>12968005

>>12974977
I'm craving huitlacoche crepes in a poblano sauce and pozole verde right now

If you Mexican food is, what do you think of Chinese?

>>12975161
Hh

>>12974933
BajaMed cuisine from Baja California mix Mexican, Mediterranean and Asian ingredients.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_Med

>>12968005
>Mexican food rips off Arab food?
pastor is literally schwarma with Mexican spices

>>12975290
Pastor is pork though

>>12968072
You're not allowed to do a lot of things under EU law.

>>12968242
>menudo
Yeah, nah, cunt.

>>12975415
#Brexit

>>12975415
It wasn’t an EU law.
The Food Act 1984 is a UK law.

>>12974839
No, it makes it, and bare with me here. Dough. That is used for play.

Also commercial playdough has zero flour in it of any kind. It's all chemicals. Home made play dough has flour. Which makes it a dough before it's cooked. You could cook it and it would be bread.

It would be the world's shittiest bread, but bread none the less.

Make sure to eat Mariscos, /ck/

>>12971270
fag lol

>>12968242
based

American bastardization in pic

>>12970102
It's like Peruvians with potatoes or Vietnamese with rice. You work with what you got.

>>12970411
That's as ignorant as saying there's no difference between Spanish, French, and German.
Even moreso actually, considering the distance involved.

>>12970875
>emotionally stunted man child can only understand shitposting

>>12971033
That's just most 4chan. Threads go down, and someone makes a new one exactly like it. That, and the muh secret club to stop the jewz meme becoming popular in the past 5 years or so.
The only boards that don't have it like this are the even more obscure creative boards.

>>12973797
Interesting thing about Mexico is that so much of what we see of it is from the American perspective, most of our image of it is of the northern desert.
Even though population-wise, and historically, the base of the country is really the southern jungly bits.
Oh, and and snow happens in some places sometimes.

>>12977410
Oh god damnit
Ok, American bastardization in this post instead

you know nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMCoJCGFmPE

Someone make a new Mexican thread. This one went over the limit. I need to dump my taco and seafood pics